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	Their shambling units have good firepower for their cost, but don't over use them. You'll want one or two shambling hordes, but anymore and you'll be forced to waste hero slots to support your shamblers. Druids are soft high value targets for you opponents. They can surge, heal, bane chant and inspire. I can't think of any other way to buff a unit. Protect them.		Their shambling units have good firepower for their cost, but don't over use them. You'll want one or two shambling hordes, but anymore and you'll be forced to waste hero slots to support your shamblers. Druids are soft high value targets for you opponents. They can surge, heal, bane chant and inspire. I can't think of any other way to buff a unit. Protect them.

	Combine said shamblers with the new Aura of Heroism spell available for Neutral armies in Clash of Kings 2018 to make them even more unlikely to ever break by giving them Rallying. Combine this spell with the Boulderguard and laugh as your Earth Elementals grind down the enemy army.		Combine said shamblers with the new Aura of Heroism spell available for Neutral armies in Clash of Kings 2018 to make them even more unlikely to ever break by giving them Rallying. Combine this spell with the Boulderguard and laugh as your Earth Elementals grind down the enemy army (Not currently a formation, so this tactic is not presently viable).

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1d4chan>CorinthianHelm at 22:34, 12 July 2020

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	*'''Beast of Nature:''' fully customizable monster. Kit it out with the option to be vicious with 7 attacks for some respectable fire power. Flying is nice too. Pitty it lost the LB upgrade but it still has the fireball option (now called noxious attack).		*'''Beast of Nature:''' fully customizable monster. Kit it out with the option to be vicious with 7 attacks for some respectable fire power. Flying is nice too. Pitty it lost the LB upgrade but it still has the fireball option (now called noxious attack).

	*'''Greater Elemental:''' want the best crushing strength in the game? Take the fire flavor. The spell fireball gives you something to do when you are waiting to bash your opponent in the face. Want wind blast 3 for some reason? Try the air elemental. Need to make your opponent work hard to clear a 2"(50mm) square base away? The earth elemental can do that. Need speed on something comparatively ~~though~~ as the earth elemental? Water does that. If you want something so tough that your opponent won't even try to kill it, a tree hearder with the medallion of life is always safe. So, now instead of having one generic unit and then upgrading, you just have one of each. Meaning, you can take a Fire Greater elemental and then another unit that could be the Water or Air greater elemental. Good option for <1500 points to create a Monster mash list abusing that now greater elementals of different flavours are different units. Other than that, go for the titan earth elemental if you have the ponits, he is a BEAST! (Def6 - 12att - Strider - ridiculous nerve and CS3).		*'''Greater Elemental:''' want the best crushing strength in the game? Take the fire flavor. The spell fireball gives you something to do when you are waiting to bash your opponent in the face. Want wind blast 3 for some reason? Try the air elemental. Need to make your opponent work hard to clear a 2"(50mm) square base away? The earth elemental can do that. Need speed on something comparatively tough as the earth elemental? Water does that. If you want something so tough that your opponent won't even try to kill it, a tree hearder with the medallion of life is always safe. So, now instead of having one generic unit and then upgrading, you just have one of each. Meaning, you can take a Fire Greater elemental and then another unit that could be the Water or Air greater elemental. Good option for <1500 points to create a Monster mash list abusing that now greater elementals of different flavours are different units. Other than that, go for the titan earth elemental if you have the ponits, he is a BEAST! (Def6 - 12att - Strider - ridiculous nerve and CS3).

	*'''Hydra:''' Brutal monster that gets stronger the more wounds it has on it. Starts with 5 attacks that hit on a 4+, but for every wound it has on it you gain an extra attack. It routs on a nerve of 18, so there is plenty of potential to expand attacks. It also has Crushing Strength (2) and Regeneration (5+), making it a beast to deal with. Experienced players will probably just ignore it, so you need to force them to respond to it to get the most use from this sea beast. Not really sure about this one. It had it's nerve values increased, now being 16/18 but I am not sold for it still.		*'''Hydra:''' Brutal monster that gets stronger the more wounds it has on it. Starts with 5 attacks that hit on a 4+, but for every wound it has on it you gain an extra attack. It routs on a nerve of 18, so there is plenty of potential to expand attacks. It also has Crushing Strength (2) and Regeneration (5+), making it a beast to deal with. Experienced players will probably just ignore it, so you need to force them to respond to it to get the most use from this sea beast. Not really sure about this one. It had it's nerve values increased, now being 16/18 but I am not sold for it still.

1d4chan>CorinthianHelm at 22:25, 12 July 2020

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	*'''Shaarlyot:''' A living legend caster and total Mary Sue. Comes with Lighting bolt (4) and Wind Blast (6) in her spell book. She also has Fly, Individual, and Inspiring, but only 1 attack. She has a speed of 10 though, so she can move out and fire off a spell. Unfortunately she only has a defence of 3+ with no other defensive measures beyond Individual, so expect to lose her quickly if she's in the front where she needs to be to cast effectively. The main rule from her falls short in my opinion. It grants the possibility of casting lighting bolt and then, out of the total damage inflicted directly cast that number of wind blast on the same target. Meh...		*'''Shaarlyot:''' A living legend caster and total Mary Sue. Comes with Lighting bolt (4) and Wind Blast (6) in her spell book. She also has Fly, Individual, and Inspiring, but only 1 attack. She has a speed of 10 though, so she can move out and fire off a spell. Unfortunately she only has a defence of 3+ with no other defensive measures beyond Individual, so expect to lose her quickly if she's in the front where she needs to be to cast effectively. The main rule from her falls short in my opinion. It grants the possibility of casting lighting bolt and then, out of the total damage inflicted directly cast that number of wind blast on the same target. Meh...

	*'''The Green Lady:''' Not overly expensive, but not very cheap for her role either. The Green Lady will compete with the Winged Unicorn as a support hero. But unlike the Winged Unicorn she has no combat abilities and her only spell is Heal (6). However she easily makes up for this by being much more resilient with Defense 5 and Regeneration (5+). Also, she now has the option of going for Radiance of Life or ~~Cloack~~ of death at the begining of the turn, making her a little more versatile but still not my main inclusion for the support role.		*'''The Green Lady:''' Not overly expensive, but not very cheap for her role either. The Green Lady will compete with the Winged Unicorn as a support hero. But unlike the Winged Unicorn she has no combat abilities and her only spell is Heal (6). However she easily makes up for this by being much more resilient with Defense 5 and Regeneration (5+). Also, she now has the option of going for Radiance of Life or Cloak of death at the begining of the turn, making her a little more versatile but still not my main inclusion for the support role.

	*'''Tree Herder:''' Take this to surge your forest shamblers / elementals, inspire your troops and when the time comes wreck your enemies in the face. It's a monster that can take a magic item to increase its face raping power, ideally this item would be something like elite. Great inclusion in the army, providing support, strong melee and surge here and there.		*'''Tree Herder:''' Take this to surge your forest shamblers / elementals, inspire your troops and when the time comes wreck your enemies in the face. It's a monster that can take a magic item to increase its face raping power, ideally this item would be something like elite. Great inclusion in the army, providing support, strong melee and surge here and there.

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	*'''Forest Shamblers:''' The cheaper large infantry unit that has much less customization than your Elementals. These have mostly the same stat line as Elementals, but add a single point of speed and gain Vanguard. This makes them ideal for jutting out at the beginning of the game to function as a [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX]]. They're actually moderately difficult to kill, meaning you'll probably even get a round of melee combat out of them if you take a horde. Solid choice. Don't forget they come with Pathfinder from the army special rules.		*'''Forest Shamblers:''' The cheaper large infantry unit that has much less customization than your Elementals. These have mostly the same stat line as Elementals, but add a single point of speed and gain Vanguard. This makes them ideal for jutting out at the beginning of the game to function as a [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX]]. They're actually moderately difficult to kill, meaning you'll probably even get a round of melee combat out of them if you take a horde. Solid choice. Don't forget they come with Pathfinder from the army special rules.

	*'''Woodland Critters (now Swarm):''' The cheapest unit in your army (along with pegasus <strike>. Fast for their role but with hideous stats. A unit as chaffy as it gets. They have plenty of attacks and Vicious but with their horrendous nerve and melee you'll be lucky to get a round of combat out of them. Easily a chaff unit and now brings fly built in (flying only 6') but no longer possible to buy ensnare.		*'''Woodland Critters (now Swarm):''' The cheapest unit in your army (along with pegasus <strike>. Fast for their role but with hideous stats. A unit as chaffy as it gets. They have plenty of attacks and Vicious but with their horrendous nerve and melee you'll be lucky to get a round of combat out of them. Easily a chaff unit and now brings fly built in (flying only 6') but no longer possible to buy ensnare.</strike>

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	*'''Elementals:''' The most customization you're going to find in any non-hero unit in this army. They come with Crushing Strength (1), Pathfinder, and Shambling base, but you must turn them into one of four elemental types. These are largely the same as other armies when they get "Air Elementals" or "Fire Elementals," you just have access to all four. Earth get an additional defence. Fire get an additional speed and point of Crushing Strength. Air get speed of 10 and Fly, but lose Crushing Strength altogether. Water gain 2 points of speed and Regeneration (5+).		*'''Elementals:''' The most customization you're going to find in any non-hero unit in this army. They come with Crushing Strength (1), Pathfinder, and Shambling base, but you must turn them into one of four elemental types. These are largely the same as other armies when they get "Air Elementals" or "Fire Elementals," you just have access to all four. Earth get an additional defence. Fire get an additional speed and point of Crushing Strength. Air get speed of 10 and Fly, but lose Crushing Strength altogether. Water gain 2 points of speed and Regeneration (5+).
	**a horde of water elementals gets you something that will waste a lot of your opponent's firepower if he tries to take it off the board		**a horde of water elementals gets you something that will waste a lot of your opponent's firepower if he tries to take it off the board
	**Which one you want is going to depend on what you want them to do. Earth is good for tar pits. Fire is good for hitting units hard. Air is a more expensive distraction unit than Forest Shamblers. Water are a more mobile, but also more expensive, tar pit than Earth. Decide which of these roles you want this unit to fulfill and build your unit towards that goal.		**Which one you want is going to depend on what you want them to do. Earth is good for tar pits. Fire is good for hitting units hard. Air is a more expensive distraction unit than Forest Shamblers. Water are a more mobile, but also more expensive, tar pit than Earth. Decide which of these roles you want this unit to fulfill and build your unit towards that goal.
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			All the previous is correct but now you take each option as a unit instead of taking 'generic elementals' and then selecting an option (such as fire or water). Also, they all cost 220 now and each has its own benefits and weaknesess. As follows: fire 'the hitters', CS2 and vicious. Earth 'the tar pits', def6, brutal and +1 nerve value. Water 'the mobiles?', Regen 5+, strider and movement 7. And 'the odd brother', air, hitting on 3+ (Yay!) but losing CS altogether (meh). It might still work with the brew of strength but at least thounderous charge 1 would have been nice.

	*'''Forest Shamblers:''' The cheaper large infantry unit that has much less customization than your Elementals. These have mostly the same stat line as Elementals, but add a single point of speed and gain Vanguard. This makes them ideal for jutting out at the beginning of the game to function as a [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX]]. They're actually moderately difficult to kill, meaning you'll probably even get a round of melee combat out of them if you take a horde. Solid choice. Don't forget they come with Pathfinder from the army special rules.		*'''Forest Shamblers:''' The cheaper large infantry unit that has much less customization than your Elementals. These have mostly the same stat line as Elementals, but add a single point of speed and gain Vanguard. This makes them ideal for jutting out at the beginning of the game to function as a [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX]]. They're actually moderately difficult to kill, meaning you'll probably even get a round of melee combat out of them if you take a horde. Solid choice. Don't forget they come with Pathfinder from the army special rules.

	*'''Woodland Critters (~~Clash of Kings 2018~~):''' ~~Height 0 "Large" Infantry.~~ The cheapest unit in your army <strike>~~and also great at unlocking army slots due to being Regiments or Hordes only</strike> but are irregular~~. Fast for their role but with hideous stats. ~~The only~~ unit ~~I've seen with a 2+ defense stat~~. They have plenty of attacks and Vicious but with their horrendous nerve and melee you'll be lucky to get a round of combat out of them. Easily a chaff unit and ~~can be upgraded~~ to ~~Fly or have Ensnare~~.		*'''Woodland Critters (now Swarm):''' The cheapest unit in your army (along with pegasus <strike>. Fast for their role but with hideous stats. A unit as chaffy as it gets. They have plenty of attacks and Vicious but with their horrendous nerve and melee you'll be lucky to get a round of combat out of them. Easily a chaff unit and now brings fly built in (flying only 6') but no longer possible to buy ensnare.

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	===Infantry===		===Infantry===
	*'''Hunters of the Wild:''' Rangers to compliment your wild animals. They have Vanguard, and Pathfinder by default, and a lot of attacks for their unit size. Rush them out at deployment into some terrain and then charge at the enemy on turn one. They'll ~~almost certainly~~ get destroyed early game, but will at a minimum eat up a lot of your opponent's attacks and even possibly demolish some of their front line.		*'''Hunters of the Wild:''' Rangers to compliment your wild animals. They have Vanguard, and Pathfinder by default, and a lot of attacks for their unit size. Rush them out at deployment into some terrain and then charge at the enemy on turn one. They'll no longer get destroyed early game due to their brand new DEF5!, but will at a minimum eat up a lot of your opponent's attacks and even possibly demolish some of their front line.

	*'''Naiad Ensnarers:''' A somewhat weak stat line, but they come with Ensnare, Pathfinder, and Regeneration (4+). They don't hit particularly hard, but they are very survivable and can tar pit most units at bigger sizes with their 50% chance to heal every wound, every movement phase. Solid infantry choice.		*'''Naiad Ensnarers:''' A somewhat weak stat line, but they come with Ensnare, Pathfinder, and Regeneration (4+). They don't hit particularly hard, but they are very survivable and can tar pit most units at bigger sizes with their 50% chance to heal every wound, every movement phase. Solid infantry choice. Specially if you bring some healing which is ridiculously easy with FoN. I'd sugget paying them the hammer of messured force and you now have a decent hitting unit as well.

	*'''Naiad Heartpiercers:''' More range oriented Naiads. They trade out Ensnare for harpoon guns with Piercing (1). They hit on a 4+ at ranged, which is better than most ranged units in the game, and still have that Regeneration (4+). Just like their melee cousins, they are a solid infantry choice~~. As of Clash of Kings 2018, has even more attacks at 10/12! Extremely good at Troop size due to cost effectiveness~~.		*'''Naiad Heartpiercers:''' More range oriented Naiads. They trade out Ensnare for harpoon guns with Piercing (1) - dang I miss the ensnare!. They hit on a 4+ at ranged and have steady aim now, but only 10att instead of 12, which is better than most ranged units in the game, and still have that Regeneration (4+). Just like their melee cousins, they are a solid infantry choice.

	*'''Salamanders:''' Dinosaur infantry. These are your elite heavy-hitters, but they interestingly enough aren't as survivable as Naiads. They're the same price as Naiad Ensnarers, trading out Regeneration for Crushing Strength (1), an extra point of nerve, and 2 points of defence. They have the option to increase to Crushing Strength (2) and lose a point of defence. You'~~re better served in this~~ army ~~by taking Naiad Ensnarers~~.		*'''Salamanders:''' Dinosaur infantry. These are your elite heavy-hitters, but they interestingly enough aren't as survivable as Naiads. They're the same price as Naiad Ensnarers, trading out Regeneration for Crushing Strength (1), an extra point of nerve, and 2 points of defence. They have the option to increase to Crushing Strength (2) and lose a point of defence. You can certainly go for to hordes now (either with two handed weapons or standard single weapon and def5) and pay them brew of strength and brew of sharpness plus the salamander hero granting them elite. You'll have to hords that hit like a ton of bricks and can resist a few punches. My only objection to that is that if you want to play a FoN army full of Salamanders you can rather play a Salamander army directly.

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	*'''Naiad Wyrmriders:''' Naiads on large sea serpents. They have a better stat line, hitting in melee on a 3+ and an extra point in defense above their foot slogging sisters. They keep Regeneration (4+), but trade out Ensnare or harpoon guns for Crushing Strength ~~(1) and Thunderous Charge~~ (1). Don't forget they also get Pathfinder, so they can easily slither through terrain and not take any penalities on the charge. Very effective at getting to the enemy and destroying them, while still reaping the benefits of their Regeneration.		*'''Naiad Wyrmriders:''' Naiads on large sea serpents. They have a better stat line, hitting in melee on a 3+ and an extra point in defense above their foot slogging sisters. They keep Regeneration (4+), but trade out Ensnare or harpoon guns for Crushing Strength (1). Don't forget they also get Pathfinder, so they can easily slither through terrain and not take any penalities on the charge. Very effective at getting to the enemy and destroying them, while still reaping the benefits of their Regeneration.

	*'''Scorchwings:''' Your (eagle?terodactyle?) riders from the beta list. Don't expect them to take any hits very well with their low defense and no regen. Their ability to fly is what really makes their use different from Naiad Wyrmriders. Fly them over a foe to the flank and turn ninety degrees before opening up with an arrow barrage, forcing your opponent to spin around to face them or risk a rear charge. As of Clash of Kings 2018, now have more attacks at 8/16! Makes them a decent threat at a range at least. Long story short: flying, shooting, nimble large cavalry.		*'''Scorchwings:''' Your (eagle?terodactyle?) riders from the beta list. Don't expect them to take any hits very well with their low defense and no regen. Their ability to fly is what really makes their use different from Naiad Wyrmriders. Fly them over a foe to the flank and turn ninety degrees before opening up with an arrow barrage, forcing your opponent to spin around to face them or risk a rear charge. As of Clash of Kings 2018, now have more attacks at 8/16! Makes them a decent threat at a range at least. Long story short: flying, shooting, nimble large cavalry.

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	*'''Naiad Wyrmriders:''' Naiads on large sea serpents. They have a better stat line, hitting in melee on a 3+ and an extra point in defense above their foot slogging sisters. They keep Regeneration (4+), but trade out Ensnare or harpoon guns for Crushing Strength (1) and Thunderous Charge (1). Don't forget they also get Pathfinder, so they can easily slither through terrain and not take any penalities on the charge. Very effective at getting to the enemy and destroying them, while still reaping the benefits of their Regeneration.		*'''Naiad Wyrmriders:''' Naiads on large sea serpents. They have a better stat line, hitting in melee on a 3+ and an extra point in defense above their foot slogging sisters. They keep Regeneration (4+), but trade out Ensnare or harpoon guns for Crushing Strength (1) and Thunderous Charge (1). Don't forget they also get Pathfinder, so they can easily slither through terrain and not take any penalities on the charge. Very effective at getting to the enemy and destroying them, while still reaping the benefits of their Regeneration.

	*'''~~Sylph Talonriders~~:''' Your eagle riders from the beta list. Don't expect them to take any hits very well with their low defense and no regen. Their ability to fly is what really makes their use different from Naiad Wyrmriders. Fly them over a foe to the flank and turn ninety degrees before opening up with an arrow barrage, forcing your opponent to spin around to face them or risk a rear charge. As of Clash of Kings 2018, now have more attacks at 8/16! Makes them a decent threat at a range at least.		*'''Scorchwings:''' Your (eagle?terodactyle?) riders from the beta list. Don't expect them to take any hits very well with their low defense and no regen. Their ability to fly is what really makes their use different from Naiad Wyrmriders. Fly them over a foe to the flank and turn ninety degrees before opening up with an arrow barrage, forcing your opponent to spin around to face them or risk a rear charge. As of Clash of Kings 2018, now have more attacks at 8/16! Makes them a decent threat at a range at least. Long story short: flying, shooting, nimble large cavalry.

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