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Generic Heroes

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	*'''Thegn on Frostfang:''' Actually not the waste of space as the foot version. For 65 points less than the Lord on Frostfang you go down to regular Inspiring, 3 less attacks, -2/-2 Nerve and only CS2. Has a role in a Frostfang heavy list where you want to have cheaper heroes to support or hunt down exposed units. Running two Frostfang Lords in such a list would be pricey, but 1 Lord and 1 Thegn, or 2 Thegns gives you some flexibility on the points budgeting for your whole list. Not a first pick hero, but cheap enough to throw-in and do something.		*'''Thegn on Frostfang:''' Actually not the waste of space as the foot version. For 65 points less than the Lord on Frostfang you go down to regular Inspiring, 3 less attacks, -2/-2 Nerve and only CS2. Has a role in a Frostfang heavy list where you want to have cheaper heroes to support or hunt down exposed units. Running two Frostfang Lords in such a list would be pricey, but 1 Lord and 1 Thegn, or 2 Thegns gives you some flexibility on the points budgeting for your whole list. Not a first pick hero, but cheap enough to throw-in and do something.

	*'''Snow Troll Prime:''' Thanks to its pricing, very much comparable to a foot Lord, the Prime trades Very Inspiring for Inspiring, Regeneration (5+), Speed 6 and Vicious (Melee). It does lack Individual being a Monstrous Infantry model, as well as some customization options~~. Would be an ok alternative to the foot Lord as a combat hero except for the fact that we don't take foot Lords as beatstick~~ but ~~as support buffers. Again we stand,~~ in the ~~shadow of Hrimm, and are just left wanting~~. ~~Thematically cool~~ for ~~running~~ an ~~ice troll themed list but needs just~~ a ~~little extra to beat daddy Hrimm~~.		*'''Snow Troll Prime:''' Thanks to its pricing, very much comparable to a foot Lord, the Prime trades Very Inspiring for Inspiring, Regeneration (5+), Speed 6 and Vicious (Melee). It does lack Individual being a Monstrous Infantry model, as well as some customization options, but this means he does heavy damage in the flanks. The Prime is better for flanking support for an anvil than a regular Lord.

	*'''Skald:''' Nominally the standard version of a dedicated Standard Bearer, the Skald costs half of a foot Lord and brings some throwing axes for range harass. The downside is that the Skald will fucking die if charged and paying twice his cost for a Very Inspiring character that will clap back, the skald is only going to be seen at low point level armies, in the 1,000 or less category. The Skald's weakness is that its bringing only a bubble of Inspiring, some very light range harass to the table for 50 points, in an army where at roughly 100-130 points you can get either the same bubble or the better version, plus decent utility in another field and also be reasonably resilient to targeted attacks. I like the idea of these warrior-poets following the army, but I can't justify taking one really. If you really want to take one, take Clarion instead, despite the cost increase he suddenly becomes more usable for the points.		*'''Skald:''' Nominally the standard version of a dedicated Standard Bearer, the Skald costs half of a foot Lord and brings some throwing axes for range harass. The downside is that the Skald will fucking die if charged and paying twice his cost for a Very Inspiring character that will clap back, the skald is only going to be seen at low point level armies, in the 1,000 or less category. The Skald's weakness is that its bringing only a bubble of Inspiring, some very light range harass to the table for 50 points, in an army where at roughly 100-130 points you can get either the same bubble or the better version, plus decent utility in another field and also be reasonably resilient to targeted attacks. I like the idea of these warrior-poets following the army, but I can't justify taking one really. If you really want to take one, take Clarion instead, despite the cost increase he suddenly becomes more usable for the points.

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Monstrous Infantry

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	==Monstrous Infantry==		==Monstrous Infantry==
	*'''Snow Trolls:''' The tankier of the two big infantry choices, has Regen (5+), CS (2), Vicious (Melee) and Wild Charge (1). They do suffer from the typical "Troll Nerve" issue where that extra point of difference between their nerve values means they will spend more time .		*'''Snow Trolls:''' The tankier of the two big infantry choices, has Regen (5+), CS (2), Vicious (Melee) and Wild Charge (1). They do suffer from the typical "Troll Nerve" issue where that extra point of difference between their nerve values means they will spend more time wavered.

	*'''Ice Elementals:''' Pretty standard big shambling elementals, CS1, Frostbite, Shambling and Ice Shards range attack (10", Piercing (1), Steady Aim) for when you're unable to wholly close the distance. Frostbound keyword and shambling means they '''NEED''' Ice Queen support. Shines with the Double Whammy Surge combo; don't Charge in the movement phase advance instead, shoot their Ice Shards at a target, then Surge them into melee with their target. Easy 18/36 attacks in one turn for your Ice Elementals unit.		*'''Ice Elementals:''' Pretty standard big shambling elementals, CS1, Frostbite, Shambling and Ice Shards range attack (10", Piercing (1), Steady Aim) for when you're unable to wholly close the distance. Frostbound keyword and shambling means they '''NEED''' Ice Queen support. Shines with the Double Whammy Surge combo; don't Charge in the movement phase advance instead, shoot their Ice Shards at a target, then Surge them into melee with their target. Easy 18/36 attacks in one turn for your Ice Elementals unit.

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Monstrous Infantry

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	==Monstrous Infantry==		==Monstrous Infantry==
	*'''Snow Trolls:'''		*'''Snow Trolls:''' The tankier of the two big infantry choices, has Regen (5+), CS (2), Vicious (Melee) and Wild Charge (1). They do suffer from the typical "Troll Nerve" issue where that extra point of difference between their nerve values means they will spend more time .

	*'''Ice Elementals:''' Pretty standard big shambling elementals, CS1, Frostbite, Shambling and Ice Shards range attack (10", Piercing (1), Steady Aim) for when you're unable to wholly close the distance. Frostbound keyword and shambling means they '''NEED''' Ice Queen support,		*'''Ice Elementals:''' Pretty standard big shambling elementals, CS1, Frostbite, Shambling and Ice Shards range attack (10", Piercing (1), Steady Aim) for when you're unable to wholly close the distance. Frostbound keyword and shambling means they '''NEED''' Ice Queen support. Shines with the Double Whammy Surge combo; don't Charge in the movement phase advance instead, shoot their Ice Shards at a target, then Surge them into melee with their target. Easy 18/36 attacks in one turn for your Ice Elementals unit.

	==Swarms==		==Swarms==

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Generic Heroes

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	*''' Ice-kin Master hunter:''' You get her in the Shadows of the North starter set for your Northern Alliance army, coming at 115 points her main shtick is being sneaky; having the Pathfinder, Scout, and Stealthy traits along with Elite (because she's an elf) and individual (what did you expect to see in this list?). She is generally a stronger version of the regular Ice-kin hunter stat-wise. Good for hiding in wooded areas with your fellow pathfinders and moving around obstacles with no problem.		*''' Ice-kin Master hunter:''' You get her in the Shadows of the North starter set for your Northern Alliance army, coming at 115 points her main shtick is being sneaky; having the Pathfinder, Scout, and Stealthy traits along with Elite (because she's an elf) and individual (what did you expect to see in this list?). She is generally a stronger version of the regular Ice-kin hunter stat-wise. Good for hiding in wooded areas with your fellow pathfinders and moving around obstacles with no problem.

	*''' Ice Queen:''' Basically the ~~elvish~~ equivalent to Kislev's [[Ice Witch\|Ice Witches]]. Cheaper than the Master hunter above, coming at 80 points. Comes with a Defense 4 which in Melee becomes a 5 with Ensnare's effect on enemy melee, the usual bonuses to being an individual unit, but [[Rage\|only gives inspiring to Frostbound units]], luckily the Very Inspiring trait doesn't seem to be affected by this limitation. She also has the Master of Ice trait which allows her to reroll 1's on spells targeting friendly Frostbound units or Frozen enemy units. Her starting spell is Icy Breath(10), so you can say she'll "blow" you away ([[PROMOTIONS\|NO! NOT LIKE THAT!]]), the effect of the spell is and I quote "Roll to damage as normal. If 1+ damage is dealt, the target Enemy unit is now Frozen. (KoW3 p54)" so it's your basic ice attack with a range of 10 inches. For extra spells, you get Bane Chant for +20 points (like every spell caster apparently), Blizzard for +30 points (an indirect spell with a 30 inch range and Piercing 1 that lets you roll a D3 for every successful hit landed), Heal for 35 points (making her your main healer), Wind Blast for 25 points (I already made the blow you away joke), and you can either pair Icy Breath with Surge or replace it with Surge.		*''' Ice Queen:''' Basically the Mantic equivalent to Kislev's [[Ice Witch\|Ice Witches]]. Cheaper than the Master hunter above, coming at 80 points. Comes with a Defense 4 which in Melee becomes a 5 with Ensnare's effect on enemy melee, the usual bonuses to being an individual unit, but [[Rage\|only gives inspiring to Frostbound units]], luckily the Very Inspiring trait doesn't seem to be affected by this limitation. She also has the Master of Ice trait which allows her to reroll 1's on spells targeting friendly Frostbound units or Frozen enemy units. Her starting spell is Icy Breath(10), so you can say she'll "blow" you away ([[PROMOTIONS\|NO! NOT LIKE THAT!]]), the effect of the spell is and I quote "Roll to damage as normal. If 1+ damage is dealt, the target Enemy unit is now Frozen. (KoW3 p54)" so it's your basic ice attack with a range of 10 inches. For extra spells, you get Bane Chant for +20 points (like every spell caster apparently), Blizzard for +30 points (an indirect spell with a 30 inch range and Piercing 1 that lets you roll a D3 for every successful hit landed), Heal for 35 points (making her your main healer), Wind Blast for 25 points (I already made the blow you away joke), and you can either pair Icy Breath with Surge or replace it with Surge.
	TLDR: She seems like a cheap choice for a healer, especially if you field Frostbound in your army with the Master of Ice trait.		TLDR: She seems like a cheap choice for a healer, especially if you field Frostbound in your army with the Master of Ice trait.

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Warmachines

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	*'''Ice Kin Bolt Thrower:''' Your one-and-only artillery piece. Ra 4+ and Elite (ranged) means you're looking at one of the more consistently hitting warmachines in the game.		*'''Ice Kin Bolt Thrower:''' Your one-and-only artillery piece. Ra 4+ and Elite (ranged) means you're looking at one of the more consistently hitting warmachines in the game.

	===Formations===		==Formations==
	*'''Orlaf's Raiders:''' 2x Human Clansmen Regiments (must swap sword & shield for two-handed weapons), 1x Orlaf the Barbarian. All units gain the Berserker keyword, the clansmen get Vicious (Melee), and Orlaf gets Inspiring and Aura (Slay (Melee - D3) - Berserker only).		*'''Orlaf's Raiders:''' 2x Human Clansmen Regiments (must swap sword & shield for two-handed weapons), 1x Orlaf the Barbarian. All units gain the Berserker keyword, the clansmen get Vicious (Melee), and Orlaf gets Inspiring and Aura (Slay (Melee - D3) - Berserker only).

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Warmachines

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	*'''Ice Kin Bolt Thrower:''' Your one-and-only artillery piece. Ra 4+ and Elite (ranged) means you're looking at one of the more consistently hitting warmachines in the game.		*'''Ice Kin Bolt Thrower:''' Your one-and-only artillery piece. Ra 4+ and Elite (ranged) means you're looking at one of the more consistently hitting warmachines in the game.

			===Formations===
			*'''Orlaf's Raiders:''' 2x Human Clansmen Regiments (must swap sword & shield for two-handed weapons), 1x Orlaf the Barbarian. All units gain the Berserker keyword, the clansmen get Vicious (Melee), and Orlaf gets Inspiring and Aura (Slay (Melee - D3) - Berserker only).

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2001:8003:D91A:7600:BDDA:FCBC:D0EA:B3CC: /* Named Heroes */

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Named Heroes

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	*'''Orlaf the Barbarian:''' Not a hugely attractive option, works for buffing human clansmen in the special formation, but can use his once-a-game ability to swing 12 attacks on target.		*'''Orlaf the Barbarian:''' Not a hugely attractive option, works for buffing human clansmen in the special formation, but can use his once-a-game ability to swing 12 attacks on target.

	*'''Clarion:''' Basically acts as a Skald thats competitive with the other heroes in the 105-130 point bracket instead of being too cheap to merit the stats/abilities to compete like the regular Skald.		*'''Clarion:''' Basically acts as a Skald thats competitive with the other heroes in the 105-130 point bracket instead of being too cheap to merit the stats/abilities to compete like the regular Skald. Probably the 3rd most fielded named character.

	===Generic Heroes===		===Generic Heroes===

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	==Army Rules==		==Army Rules==
	~~So there's no army wide special rule here~~, ~~but there are~~ a few common trends with your units. Firstly is that non-elven on foot usually have Wild Charge 1 which bumps the threat range on your charges, even the sole dwarf unit can dash just a little faster than its movement seems. Secondly your Nerve is strictly average, this means your lower tier units aren't as unreliable as some factions, but your elite units aren't going to be unbreaking rocks either. Third despite the average nerve you do get Very Inspiring on more units than other armies so your average nerve isn't as bad as it seems.		Snowfox: The unit has +1 Attack, only one a few heroes.

	~~Lastly there~~ is the "Frostbound" keyword which a few units have for support from your Ice Queen heroes. Its not entirely feasible to go deep on this synergy but makes for a themed army of snow witches and their minions. If you find you're taking several Frostbound units, consider an Ice Queen and deploying them as a group.		Wild Charge is pretty common on your infantry, which means your units project a slightly larger threat than expected. Most of your heroes have Very Inspiring instead of Inspiring so you can deploy a little more spread out.

			There is the "Frostbound" keyword which a few units have for support from your Ice Queen heroes. Its not entirely feasible to go deep on this synergy but makes for a themed army of snow witches and their minions. If you find you're taking several Frostbound units, consider an Ice Queen and deploying them as a group.

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	*'''Thegn on Frostfang:''' Actually not the waste of space as the foot version. For 65 points less than the Lord on Frostfang you go down to regular Inspiring, 3 less attacks, -2/-2 Nerve and only CS2. Has a role in a Frostfang heavy list where you want to have cheaper heroes to support or hunt down exposed units. Running two Frostfang Lords in such a list would be pricey, but 1 Lord and 1 Thegn, or 2 Thegns gives you some flexibility on the points budgeting for your whole list. Not a first pick hero, but cheap enough to throw-in and do something.		*'''Thegn on Frostfang:''' Actually not the waste of space as the foot version. For 65 points less than the Lord on Frostfang you go down to regular Inspiring, 3 less attacks, -2/-2 Nerve and only CS2. Has a role in a Frostfang heavy list where you want to have cheaper heroes to support or hunt down exposed units. Running two Frostfang Lords in such a list would be pricey, but 1 Lord and 1 Thegn, or 2 Thegns gives you some flexibility on the points budgeting for your whole list. Not a first pick hero, but cheap enough to throw-in and do something.

	*'''Snow Troll Prime:''' Thanks to its pricing, very much comparable to a foot Lord, the Prime trades Very Inspiring for Inspiring, Regeneration (5+), Speed 6 and Vicious (Melee). It does lack Individual being a Monstrous Infantry model, as well as some customization options. Would be an ok alternative to the foot Lord as a combat hero except for the fact that we don't take Lords as beatstick but as support buffers. Again we stand, in the shadow of Hrimm, and are just left wanting. Thematically cool for running an ice troll themed list but needs just a little extra to beat daddy Hrimm.		*'''Snow Troll Prime:''' Thanks to its pricing, very much comparable to a foot Lord, the Prime trades Very Inspiring for Inspiring, Regeneration (5+), Speed 6 and Vicious (Melee). It does lack Individual being a Monstrous Infantry model, as well as some customization options. Would be an ok alternative to the foot Lord as a combat hero except for the fact that we don't take foot Lords as beatstick but as support buffers. Again we stand, in the shadow of Hrimm, and are just left wanting. Thematically cool for running an ice troll themed list but needs just a little extra to beat daddy Hrimm.

	*'''Skald:''' Nominally the standard version of a dedicated Standard Bearer, the Skald costs half of a foot Lord and brings some throwing axes for range harass. The downside is that the Skald will fucking die if charged and paying twice his cost for a Very Inspiring character that will clap back, the skald is only going to be seen at low point level armies, in the 1,000 or less category. The Skald's weakness is that its bringing only a bubble of Inspiring some very light range harass to the table for 50 points, in an army where at roughly 100-130 points you can get either the same bubble or the better version, plus decent utility in another field and also be reasonably resilient to targeted attacks. I like the idea of these warrior-poets following the army, but I can't justify taking one really. If you really want to take one, take Clarion instead, despite the cost increase he suddenly becomes more usable for the points.		*'''Skald:''' Nominally the standard version of a dedicated Standard Bearer, the Skald costs half of a foot Lord and brings some throwing axes for range harass. The downside is that the Skald will fucking die if charged and paying twice his cost for a Very Inspiring character that will clap back, the skald is only going to be seen at low point level armies, in the 1,000 or less category. The Skald's weakness is that its bringing only a bubble of Inspiring, some very light range harass to the table for 50 points, in an army where at roughly 100-130 points you can get either the same bubble or the better version, plus decent utility in another field and also be reasonably resilient to targeted attacks. I like the idea of these warrior-poets following the army, but I can't justify taking one really. If you really want to take one, take Clarion instead, despite the cost increase he suddenly becomes more usable for the points.

	*'''Ice Blade:''' Squishy melee duelist assassin type of hero. Relies on speed 6 plus Wild Charge (D3) to get into position, and Duelist and CS(1) to threaten targets with her 6 attacks. Good at picking off necromancers and other squishy surge casters. You don't ram this hero into the flanks of an enemy unit to break tarpits, you use her to murder supports.		*'''Ice Blade:''' Squishy melee duelist assassin type of hero. Relies on speed 6 plus Wild Charge (D3) to get into position, and Duelist and CS(1) to threaten targets with her 6 attacks. Good at picking off necromancers and other squishy surge casters. You don't ram this hero into the flanks of an enemy unit to break tarpits, you use her to murder supports.