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	[[Brettonia\|Brettonian knights]] however along with their darker counterparts the [[Blood_Knight\|Blood knights]] are still wholly focused on medieval style cavalry charges seeing the methods of warfare used by other nations as dishonorable. The knightly traditions of the brettonians are inspired by their own heroic legends along with the discovery of [[High_Elves_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\| the depictions of elven knights found in the ruins they settled]].		[[Brettonia\|Brettonian knights]] however along with their darker counterparts the [[Blood_Knight\|Blood knights]] are still wholly focused on medieval style cavalry charges seeing the methods of warfare used by other nations as dishonorable. The knightly traditions of the brettonians are inspired by their own heroic legends along with the discovery of [[High_Elves_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\| the depictions of elven knights found in the ruins they settled]].

			Elven knights whether it be the dark elves [[Nauglir\|nauglir riders]], high elven [[Caledor_the_Dragontamer\|knights of caledor]], or the [[Wild_Hunt\|wild riders]] of the wood elves all heavily use magic to assist them in battle and restrict the membership in their orders through levels of exclusivity that go beyond the traditions of even bretonnians which itself is not strange as the bretonnians knightly culture is based on that of their elven forebears.

	==See also==		==See also==

2600:387:15:1513:0:0:0:1: Link to page with atleast a little text on blood knights

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Link to page with atleast a little text on blood knights

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	On average most nations in the old world have arrived into the early renaissance and have an understanding of the uses of gunpowder even so [[Knightly_Orders_of_the_Empire\|knights still exist]] the knightly orders of [[Tilea]], [[Estalia]], & [[Empire\|The Empire]] have adjusted to this change through combined arms strategies as represented in their use of [[Dogs_of_War\|mercenaries]] and [[Men_at_Arms\|infantrymen]] to supplement their ranks. The knightly traditions of the empire along with their mercenary allies take much inspiration from the written word of human military leaders like [[Myrmidia]] and [[Sigmar]] along with advice from the [[Dwarfs_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\|dwarf ancestors.]]		On average most nations in the old world have arrived into the early renaissance and have an understanding of the uses of gunpowder even so [[Knightly_Orders_of_the_Empire\|knights still exist]] the knightly orders of [[Tilea]], [[Estalia]], & [[Empire\|The Empire]] have adjusted to this change through combined arms strategies as represented in their use of [[Dogs_of_War\|mercenaries]] and [[Men_at_Arms\|infantrymen]] to supplement their ranks. The knightly traditions of the empire along with their mercenary allies take much inspiration from the written word of human military leaders like [[Myrmidia]] and [[Sigmar]] along with advice from the [[Dwarfs_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\|dwarf ancestors.]]

	[[Brettonia\|Brettonian knights]] however along with their darker counterparts the [[~~Blood_Knights~~\|Blood knights]] are still wholly focused on medieval style cavalry charges seeing the methods of warfare used by other nations as dishonorable. The knightly traditions of the brettonians are inspired by their own heroic legends along with the discovery of [[High_Elves_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\| the depictions of elven knights found in the ruins they settled]].		[[Brettonia\|Brettonian knights]] however along with their darker counterparts the [[Blood_Knight\|Blood knights]] are still wholly focused on medieval style cavalry charges seeing the methods of warfare used by other nations as dishonorable. The knightly traditions of the brettonians are inspired by their own heroic legends along with the discovery of [[High_Elves_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\| the depictions of elven knights found in the ruins they settled]].

	==See also==		==See also==

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	{{D&D5-Classes}}		{{D&D5-Classes}}

			==Warhammer==

			'''Warhammer Fantasy'''

			On average most nations in the old world have arrived into the early renaissance and have an understanding of the uses of gunpowder even so [[Knightly_Orders_of_the_Empire\|knights still exist]] the knightly orders of [[Tilea]], [[Estalia]], & [[Empire\|The Empire]] have adjusted to this change through combined arms strategies as represented in their use of [[Dogs_of_War\|mercenaries]] and [[Men_at_Arms\|infantrymen]] to supplement their ranks. The knightly traditions of the empire along with their mercenary allies take much inspiration from the written word of human military leaders like [[Myrmidia]] and [[Sigmar]] along with advice from the [[Dwarfs_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\|dwarf ancestors.]]

			[[Brettonia\|Brettonian knights]] however along with their darker counterparts the [[Blood_Knights\|Blood knights]] are still wholly focused on medieval style cavalry charges seeing the methods of warfare used by other nations as dishonorable. The knightly traditions of the brettonians are inspired by their own heroic legends along with the discovery of [[High_Elves_(Warhammer_Fantasy)\| the depictions of elven knights found in the ruins they settled]].

	==See also==		==See also==

2600:1010:A133:B850:9A8:1DAB:93A9:1F5F: Final Edit on this block of poetry the rest of the article is still a fucking mess

2023-06-02T06:12:36Z

Final Edit on this block of poetry the rest of the article is still a fucking mess

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	{{topquote\|The knight is a man of blood and iron, a man familiar with the sight of smashed faces and the ragged stumps of lopped-off limbs; he is also a demure, almost maidenlike, guest in a hall, a gentle, modest, unobtrusive man. He is not compromise or happy mean between ferocity and meekness; he is fierce to the nth and meek to the nth. The man who combines both characters – the knight – is not a work of nature but of art; of that art which has human beings, instead of canvas or marble, for its medium.\|[[C. S. Lewis]]}}		{{topquote\|The knight is a man of blood and iron, a man familiar with the sight of smashed faces and the ragged stumps of lopped-off limbs; he is also a demure, almost maidenlike, guest in a hall, a gentle, modest, unobtrusive man. He is not compromise or happy mean between ferocity and meekness; he is fierce to the nth and meek to the nth. The man who combines both characters – the knight – is not a work of nature but of art; of that art which has human beings, instead of canvas or marble, for its medium.\|[[C. S. Lewis]]}}

	{{topquote\|I tell you there is not so much savor in eating or drinking or sleeping, as when I hear them scream, “There they are! Let’s get them!” on both sides, and I hear riderless horses in the shadows, neighing, and I hear them scream, “Help! Help!” and I see them fall among the ditches, little men and great men on the grass, and I see fixed in the flanks of the corpses stumps of lances with silken streamers.\|-[[Bretonnia\|Bertran de Born]], Occitan knight and troubadour}}		{{topquote\|I tell you there is not so much savor in eating or drinking or sleeping,</br> as when I hear them scream, “There they are! Let’s get them!” on both sides,</br> and I hear riderless horses in the shadows, neighing,</br> and I hear them scream, “Help! Help!”</br> and I see them fall among the ditches,</br> little men and great men on the grass,</br> and I see fixed in the flanks of the corpses</br> stumps of lances with silken streamers.\|[[Bretonnia\|Bertran de Born]], Occitan knight and troubadour}}
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	{{topquote\|The knight is a man of blood and iron, a man familiar with the sight of smashed faces and the ragged stumps of lopped-off limbs; he is also a demure, almost maidenlike, guest in a hall, a gentle, modest, unobtrusive man. He is not compromise or happy mean between ferocity and meekness; he is fierce to the nth and meek to the nth. The man who combines both characters – the knight – is not a work of nature but of art; of that art which has human beings, instead of canvas or marble, for its medium.\|[[C. S. Lewis]]}}		{{topquote\|The knight is a man of blood and iron, a man familiar with the sight of smashed faces and the ragged stumps of lopped-off limbs; he is also a demure, almost maidenlike, guest in a hall, a gentle, modest, unobtrusive man. He is not compromise or happy mean between ferocity and meekness; he is fierce to the nth and meek to the nth. The man who combines both characters – the knight – is not a work of nature but of art; of that art which has human beings, instead of canvas or marble, for its medium.\|[[C. S. Lewis]]}}

	{{topquote\|I tell you there is not so much savor in eating or drinking or sleeping, as when I hear them scream, “There they are! Let’s get them!” on both sides, and I hear riderless horses in the shadows, neighing, and I hear them scream, “Help! Help!” and I see them fall among the ditches, little men and great men on the grass, and I see fixed in the flanks of the corpses stumps of lances with silken streamers.\|-[[Bretonnia\|Bertran de Born]], Occitan ~~Troubadour~~}}		{{topquote\|I tell you there is not so much savor in eating or drinking or sleeping, as when I hear them scream, “There they are! Let’s get them!” on both sides, and I hear riderless horses in the shadows, neighing, and I hear them scream, “Help! Help!” and I see them fall among the ditches, little men and great men on the grass, and I see fixed in the flanks of the corpses stumps of lances with silken streamers.\|-[[Bretonnia\|Bertran de Born]], Occitan knight and troubadour}}
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65.108.50.207: Brave sir Robin was reincarnated in another world and bravely ran away.

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Brave sir Robin was reincarnated in another world and bravely ran away.

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	** The flip side of upholding the code of chivalry is enforcing the code against oath-breakers. Knights who completely ''forsake'' their vows are especially harmful to your profession's reputation, so be vigilant for rumors of 'black knights' and the like.		** The flip side of upholding the code of chivalry is enforcing the code against oath-breakers. Knights who completely ''forsake'' their vows are especially harmful to your profession's reputation, so be vigilant for rumors of 'black knights' and the like.
	* Training a [[squire]]: Building up a knight household is a ton of work, and if you died without a legitimate heir to your name, all your hard work over the decades would have been for naught. So, you had to train a successor who will carry your knight household throughout the ages. Train them well and don't just treat them as a glorified servant, as that little buttmuncher will be the one who'll be representing your legacy once you're gone, and you don't want your house to be remembered for that dastard who became the unbearable shame throughout the land.		* Training a [[squire]]: Building up a knight household is a ton of work, and if you died without a legitimate heir to your name, all your hard work over the decades would have been for naught. So, you had to train a successor who will carry your knight household throughout the ages. Train them well and don't just treat them as a glorified servant, as that little buttmuncher will be the one who'll be representing your legacy once you're gone, and you don't want your house to be remembered for that dastard who became the unbearable shame throughout the land.
			*Impractical Chivalry: In [[Isekai\|some fantasy settings]] there are examples of knights who will refuse to fight enemies with lesser quality equipment, never use deceitful tactics in combat, stop in the middle of a fight to have a conversation with their enemy, and [[lolwut\|some even refuse to kill at all]].
			*Unusual Armor: In fantasy settings there are authors and designers who sometimes [[Fantasy_Armor\|pick aesthetics over function]] some armors are not armor at all leaving various open areas to stab at, others go to the complete opposite direction and make the knight carry [[pauldrons\|anvil sized pauldrons]] on his shoulders.

	Many fantasy settings are less sexist than the actual middle ages and female knights are far more common than they were in the middle ages.		Many fantasy settings are less sexist than the actual middle ages and female knights are far more common than they were in the middle ages.

192.99.55.175: No poleaxes for you use a pointy stick like the peasant you are.

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No poleaxes for you use a pointy stick like the peasant you are.

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	*Jousting was pay to win (going back to Knights being [[That Guy]]). Ever play a video game and a new item update releases with cool new weapons and armor? It might have took you days or a week just to get one of them. Then comes this guy with all that new gear stomping you with little skill on their part. Jousting was like that. If a Knight was rich enough he could buy a specialized set of jousting armor that made it impossible to unhorse him. Poorer Knights had to make do with their battle armor, which was designed for movement rather than not falling off a walking glue container.		*Jousting was pay to win (going back to Knights being [[That Guy]]). Ever play a video game and a new item update releases with cool new weapons and armor? It might have took you days or a week just to get one of them. Then comes this guy with all that new gear stomping you with little skill on their part. Jousting was like that. If a Knight was rich enough he could buy a specialized set of jousting armor that made it impossible to unhorse him. Poorer Knights had to make do with their battle armor, which was designed for movement rather than not falling off a walking glue container.
	*Knights had to buy their own equipment, as unlike modern military forces the feudal cheapskates in charge wouldn't foot the bill. If they didn't have a high enough status or weren't buddies with the armorer, there would be a chance of their weapons and armor being of questionable quality and forged by an apprentice instead. This meant that lower ranked Knights may have went into battle with the dark age equivalent of a school science project, regardless of how professional it might look on the surface.		*Knights had to buy their own equipment, as unlike modern military forces the feudal cheapskates in charge wouldn't foot the bill. If they didn't have a high enough status or weren't buddies with the armorer, there would be a chance of their weapons and armor being of questionable quality and forged by an apprentice instead. This meant that lower ranked Knights may have went into battle with the dark age equivalent of a school science project, regardless of how professional it might look on the surface.
			*Your lord can ban you from using a better gear, in the case of poleaxes these were at times seen as a status symbol and were forbidden to use for the men at arms or noble in name only unlanded knights. Basically if your boss was [[That_Guy\| that guy]]. He could purposefully underequip you due to a dumb fashion trend.
	*Becoming a Knight meant that you had to be hit in the face with a gauntlet. Made out of metal. So you could end up talking like a European Little Nicky if the guy knighting you was a big enough jerk. For obvious reasons, this was eventually replaced with the more traditional tapping of your shoulders with a sword.		*Becoming a Knight meant that you had to be hit in the face with a gauntlet. Made out of metal. So you could end up talking like a European Little Nicky if the guy knighting you was a big enough jerk. For obvious reasons, this was eventually replaced with the more traditional tapping of your shoulders with a sword.
	*As a [[Squire]] you had a high chance of being [[rape\|raped]] by the man training you, more so if you weren't a noble of high rank. Alongside that there was also the risk of being beaten constantly for failing to live up to his overly high standards.		*As a [[Squire]] you had a high chance of being [[rape\|raped]] by the man training you, more so if you weren't a noble of high rank. Alongside that there was also the risk of being beaten constantly for failing to live up to his overly high standards.

2600:387:9:3:0:0:0:3A: Knights could shift into mercenaries in politically unstable realms.

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Knights could shift into mercenaries in politically unstable realms.

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	* Officer: you owe service to your lord. If they call on you to fight, you have to. In this regard knights were analogous to lieutenants or sergeants. Being men at arms, knights were expected to know how to fight, how to lead and teach others to fight. If they were particularly good fighters they might be used more like champions and vanguards, while the less martially able would still be expected to be capable of organizing and leading some men. In medieval Europe, the basic formation was the "lance", roughly equivalent to a squad, consisting of a knight and his retinue (perhaps a dozen men). Lances were organized into companies, captained by a noble (typically a baron or count). Lances wouldn't necessary take the field intact; for field warfare, knights would assemble as cavalry and their retainers would form the body of infantry. As the medieval wars dragged on, the concept of lances broke down and it became more normal for nobles to outfit and lead companies of their area's local men with consistent equipment and some once-a-month training (bowmen of Dumbhollow, Shitcreek company of pike, etc), which would be the norm until wars started waging so far away that kings and governments needed armies that were liable for service anywhere, not just in their area.		* Officer: you owe service to your lord. If they call on you to fight, you have to. In this regard knights were analogous to lieutenants or sergeants. Being men at arms, knights were expected to know how to fight, how to lead and teach others to fight. If they were particularly good fighters they might be used more like champions and vanguards, while the less martially able would still be expected to be capable of organizing and leading some men. In medieval Europe, the basic formation was the "lance", roughly equivalent to a squad, consisting of a knight and his retinue (perhaps a dozen men). Lances were organized into companies, captained by a noble (typically a baron or count). Lances wouldn't necessary take the field intact; for field warfare, knights would assemble as cavalry and their retainers would form the body of infantry. As the medieval wars dragged on, the concept of lances broke down and it became more normal for nobles to outfit and lead companies of their area's local men with consistent equipment and some once-a-month training (bowmen of Dumbhollow, Shitcreek company of pike, etc), which would be the norm until wars started waging so far away that kings and governments needed armies that were liable for service anywhere, not just in their area.
	* Politician: you're part of the elite which means you have to spend an infuriating amount of time jockeying for influence or just protecting your current position. If you don't play ball by engaging with the rest of the aristocracy and maintaining your status, you'll find yourself in disfavor. If you're not seen as pious enough, the church will start hectoring you with the same effect.		* Politician: you're part of the elite which means you have to spend an infuriating amount of time jockeying for influence or just protecting your current position. If you don't play ball by engaging with the rest of the aristocracy and maintaining your status, you'll find yourself in disfavor. If you're not seen as pious enough, the church will start hectoring you with the same effect.
			* Mercenary: You fight for neighboring kingdoms in search for gold to pay for your needs but most importantly land to eventually claim as your own even after you claim a county or barony your descendants are not fully guaranteed to inherit the land. One example in history with many mercenaries is the taifa state period of the reconquista. Knights turned mercenary were common as the christian realms were not truly unified yet and the caliphate had collapsed into rump states meaning mercenaries would fight for various lords in attempts to become landed nobles.

	== Old-School D&D ==		== Old-School D&D ==