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	In what has to be the weirdest of coincidences, ever since kobolds got their [[dragon]]-linked makeover in 3rd edition, there's been some really weird sexual elements snuck into their lore, although what that element is depends on the edition.		In what has to be the weirdest of coincidences, ever since kobolds got their [[dragon]]-linked makeover in 3rd edition, there's been some really weird sexual elements snuck into their lore, although what that element is depends on the edition.

	[[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]]: [[~~Races of X\|~~Races of the Dragon]] states that kobolds go into heat and are compelled to breed, like animals, but they're also sapient beings, so they also form permanent pair-bondings. They reconcile these different facts with the statement that extra-marital sex and breeding is considered "no biggie" in kobold society, because the urge hits when it hits, and they can't control themselves when it happens, so there's no point getting jealous about it.		[[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]]: [[Races of the Dragon]] states that kobolds go into heat and are compelled to breed, like animals, but they're also sapient beings, so they also form permanent pair-bondings. They reconcile these different facts with the statement that extra-marital sex and breeding is considered "no biggie" in kobold society, because the urge hits when it hits, and they can't control themselves when it happens, so there's no point getting jealous about it.

	[[Pathfinder]]: Kobolds of [[Golarion]] has become somewhat memetically infamous for its presentation of kobold biology. Classic Monsters Revisited also established kobolds as being super-breeders, with females producing eggs throughout their lives and producing bigger and bigger clutches as they get older.		[[Pathfinder]]: Kobolds of [[Golarion]] has become somewhat memetically infamous for its presentation of kobold biology. Classic Monsters Revisited also established kobolds as being super-breeders, with females producing eggs throughout their lives and producing bigger and bigger clutches as they get older.

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	Despite being a part of D&D since the very beginning, kobold tabletop models are rather rare(see below for links). For the longest time, [[Reaper Miniatures]] has been pretty much the ''only'' company that made them in squad/mob size numbers, and even then the sculpts... aren't that spectacular. However, as of May 2017 Westfalia Miniatures has Kickstarted their new tabletop wargame Strongsword, and included with it are models (damn good ones, too) for an entire kobold army! What's more, in the Strongsword lore the little bastards apparently cause enough mayhem to be responsible for a conflict called (I shit you not) the [[Tucker's Kobolds\|''Kobold Wars'']].		Despite being a part of D&D since the very beginning, kobold tabletop models are rather rare(see below for links). For the longest time, [[Reaper Miniatures]] has been pretty much the ''only'' company that made them in squad/mob size numbers, and even then the sculpts... aren't that spectacular. However, as of May 2017 Westfalia Miniatures has Kickstarted their new tabletop wargame Strongsword, and included with it are models (damn good ones, too) for an entire kobold army! What's more, in the Strongsword lore the little bastards apparently cause enough mayhem to be responsible for a conflict called (I shit you not) the [[Tucker's Kobolds\|''Kobold Wars'']].

	=Warhammer=		=Warhammer Fantasy=
	The Kobolds of Warhammer Fantasy were merely a subspecies of Goblin, whose only morphological difference was being skinnier and with more angular proportions. The exception to this was the Fire Kobold, a form of Kobold covered in red patches often mistaken for diseased rash. The Fire Kobolds held the unique ability to manifest fire through throwing fireballs or spitting out small gouts of flame.		The Kobolds of [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle\|Warhammer Fantasy]] were merely a subspecies of Goblin, whose only morphological difference was being skinnier and with more angular proportions. The exception to this was the Fire Kobold, a form of Kobold covered in red patches often mistaken for diseased rash. The Fire Kobolds held the unique ability to manifest fire through throwing fireballs or spitting out small gouts of flame.

	=Monstergirls=		=Monstergirls=

71.193.202.180: /* Kobold Commandos */ Given it's an Mp40, it's a Panzerfaust

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	=Kobold Commandos=		=Kobold Commandos=
	[[File:Kobold-red-beret.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Another [[/k/]]obold.]]		[[File:Kobold-red-beret.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Another [[/k/]]obold.]]
	[[File:Kobold-with-smg.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|~~Is that~~ a ~~sturmfaust? ITS A GUNDAM~~!]]		[[File:Kobold-with-smg.png\|300px\|thumb\|right\|Fuck You Paladin I have a Panzerfaust!]]
	A popular way to portray kobolds in a more contemporary fashion, kobold commandos portray kobolds as being part of the military, especially special forces. Other anons point out that with the fact that they don't hold up in a one-on-on fight with other low level monsters, attack in large numbers and from ambush, have a predisposition towards traps and dig big underground tunnels, they're kind of like the Viet Cong. This is probably rooted in the old story about [[Tucker's Kobolds]], and there are similarities between these two depictions. Of the various 'cannon fodder' enemies, Kobolds seem to be the most organized, and with that organization a DM has a lot of leeway to look into all the ways one can use fortifications to fuck with an attacker, and turn them upon unsuspecting players.		A popular way to portray kobolds in a more contemporary fashion, kobold commandos portray kobolds as being part of the military, especially special forces. Other anons point out that with the fact that they don't hold up in a one-on-on fight with other low level monsters, attack in large numbers and from ambush, have a predisposition towards traps and dig big underground tunnels, they're kind of like the Viet Cong. This is probably rooted in the old story about [[Tucker's Kobolds]], and there are similarities between these two depictions. Of the various 'cannon fodder' enemies, Kobolds seem to be the most organized, and with that organization a DM has a lot of leeway to look into all the ways one can use fortifications to fuck with an attacker, and turn them upon unsuspecting players.
	D20 Modern's urban Arcana made this version actually canon, right down to an almost [[Ork]]ish love of [[DAKKA]], with the popular kobold character [[Meepo]], originally from the module The Sunless Citadel, getting transported into the world of d20 modern and joining an army, and later returning to his own world bringing his shotgun with him.		D20 Modern's urban Arcana made this version actually canon, right down to an almost [[Ork]]ish love of [[DAKKA]], with the popular kobold character [[Meepo]], originally from the module The Sunless Citadel, getting transported into the world of d20 modern and joining an army, and later returning to his own world bringing his shotgun with him.

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	=Through the Editions=		=Through the Editions=
	[[File:Kobold_Art_History.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|A basic summary of the kobold look from 1st to 4th edition.]]		[[File:Kobold_Art_History.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|A basic summary of the kobold look from 1st to 4th edition.]]
	D&D Kobolds have undergone a long history of revision. When they first appeared in basic/AD&D 1e, they were considered kin to goblinoids, but also had distinctly beast-man type appearances - of course, these were the days in which [[bullywug]]s and [[gnolls]] were considered humanoids and thus could interbreed with humans, so not that weird. The result was a scaly-skinned rat- or dog-like humanoid with small horns and a distinct barking voice. The version first depicted in the [[Monster Manual]] was clearly a scaly dog-man, but versions by other artists were more rat-like. ~~An interesting factoid is that in~~ the ~~early D&D setting~~ Pelinore~~, Kobolds are degenerated,~~ land ~~adapted descendants of Sahuagin~~.		D&D Kobolds have undergone a long history of revision. When they first appeared in basic/AD&D 1e, they were considered kin to goblinoids, but also had distinctly beast-man type appearances - of course, these were the days in which [[bullywug]]s and [[gnolls]] were considered humanoids and thus could interbreed with humans, so not that weird. The result was a scaly-skinned rat- or dog-like humanoid with small horns and a distinct barking voice. The version first depicted in the [[Monster Manual]] was clearly a scaly dog-man, but versions by other artists were more rat-like. There's also the [[Pelinore]] theory that they're [[Sahuagin]] adapted to land - we'll get to this.

	When AD&D 2e was launched, the first Monstrous Compendium presented an alternative version that was more visibly [[goblin]]-like; a small, ugly but fundamentally man-shaped creature with big, saucer-like eyes, a puggish face and small horns. This version was not very well received, and the artwork quickly went back to the more rodent-like visages of editions past. The iconic depiction of this was by [[Tony DiTerlizzi]], in the AD&D Monstrous Manual.		When AD&D 2e was launched, the first Monstrous Compendium presented an alternative version that was more visibly [[goblin]]-like; a small, ugly but fundamentally man-shaped creature with big, saucer-like eyes, a puggish face and small horns. This version was not very well received, and the artwork quickly went back to the more rodent-like visages of editions past. The iconic depiction of this was by [[Tony DiTerlizzi]], in the AD&D Monstrous Manual.
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	==BECMI==		==BECMI==
	Kobolds were amongst the many "humanoid" races to debut in the [[Known World Gazetteers\|Known World Gazetteer #10: The Orcs of Thar]], alongside [[orc]]s, [[goblinoid]]s, [[ogre]]s, [[troll]]s and [[gnoll]]s. ~~One early setting~~ for ~~D&D,~~ Pelinore, actually had the original of the Kobolds as a race, back then being more goblin-dog-like than lizardlike, as being the degenerated, land-adapted descendants of Sahuagin.		Kobolds were amongst the many "humanoid" races to debut in the [[Known World Gazetteers\|Known World Gazetteer #10: The Orcs of Thar]], alongside [[orc]]s, [[goblinoid]]s, [[ogre]]s, [[troll]]s and [[gnoll]]s. Over in the UK, ''Imagine'' magazine (TSR owned!) for the Pelinore setting actually had the original of the Kobolds as a race, back then being more goblin-dog-like than lizardlike, as being the degenerated, land-adapted descendants of ''Sahuagin''. So, as clade goes... ichthyostega-like.

	<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="100%"> Click "Expand" to see the ~~stablock~~.		<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="100%"> Click "Expand" to see the statblock.
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	::Kobold Ability Modifiers: -4 Strength, +3 Dexterity		::Kobold Ability Modifiers: -4 Strength, +3 Dexterity

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	==BECMI==		==BECMI==
	Kobolds were amongst the many "humanoid" races to debut in the [[Known World Gazetteers\|Known World Gazetteer #10: The Orcs of Thar]], alongside [[orc]]s, [[goblinoid]]s, [[ogre]]s, [[troll]]s and [[gnoll]]s. One early setting for D&D, Pelinore, actually had the original of the Kobolds as a race, back ~~them~~ being more goblin-dog-like than lizardlike, as being the degenerated, land-adapted descendants of Sahuagin.		Kobolds were amongst the many "humanoid" races to debut in the [[Known World Gazetteers\|Known World Gazetteer #10: The Orcs of Thar]], alongside [[orc]]s, [[goblinoid]]s, [[ogre]]s, [[troll]]s and [[gnoll]]s. One early setting for D&D, Pelinore, actually had the original of the Kobolds as a race, back then being more goblin-dog-like than lizardlike, as being the degenerated, land-adapted descendants of Sahuagin.

	<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="100%"> Click "Expand" to see the stablock.		<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="100%"> Click "Expand" to see the stablock.

2601:188:C300:64B8:5A:3273:F71E:FFB1: /* Through the Editions */

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Through the Editions

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	=Through the Editions=		=Through the Editions=
	[[File:Kobold_Art_History.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|A basic summary of the kobold look from 1st to 4th edition.]]		[[File:Kobold_Art_History.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|right\|A basic summary of the kobold look from 1st to 4th edition.]]
	D&D Kobolds have undergone a long history of revision. When they first appeared in basic/AD&D 1e, they were considered kin to goblinoids, but also had distinctly beast-man type appearances - of course, these were the days in which [[bullywug]]s and [[gnolls]] were considered humanoids and thus could interbreed with humans, so not that weird. The result was a scaly-skinned rat- or dog-like humanoid with small horns and a distinct barking voice. The version first depicted in the [[Monster Manual]] was clearly a scaly dog-man, but versions by other artists were more rat-like.		D&D Kobolds have undergone a long history of revision. When they first appeared in basic/AD&D 1e, they were considered kin to goblinoids, but also had distinctly beast-man type appearances - of course, these were the days in which [[bullywug]]s and [[gnolls]] were considered humanoids and thus could interbreed with humans, so not that weird. The result was a scaly-skinned rat- or dog-like humanoid with small horns and a distinct barking voice. The version first depicted in the [[Monster Manual]] was clearly a scaly dog-man, but versions by other artists were more rat-like. An interesting factoid is that in the early D&D setting Pelinore, Kobolds are degenerated, land adapted descendants of Sahuagin.

	When AD&D 2e was launched, the first Monstrous Compendium presented an alternative version that was more visibly [[goblin]]-like; a small, ugly but fundamentally man-shaped creature with big, saucer-like eyes, a puggish face and small horns. This version was not very well received, and the artwork quickly went back to the more rodent-like visages of editions past. The iconic depiction of this was by [[Tony DiTerlizzi]], in the AD&D Monstrous Manual.		When AD&D 2e was launched, the first Monstrous Compendium presented an alternative version that was more visibly [[goblin]]-like; a small, ugly but fundamentally man-shaped creature with big, saucer-like eyes, a puggish face and small horns. This version was not very well received, and the artwork quickly went back to the more rodent-like visages of editions past. The iconic depiction of this was by [[Tony DiTerlizzi]], in the AD&D Monstrous Manual.