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	Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all before then, because why waste resources on a dead world?). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.		Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all before then, because why waste resources on a dead world?). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.

			Regardless of which interpretation one takes, Krieg's modus operandi can be summarized as ''grit'', mental and physical endurance and loyalty, and going above and beyond the call of duty to prove one's willpower against impossible odds; which can sound vague regarding the Imperial Guard. The Krieger just adds ''more'' grit with an aroma of WW1 Somme.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:3D6C:5C98:46F7:4F7D at 15:44, 9 March 2023

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1d4chan>Gilten: topquote

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	[[File:Krieg (planet).jpg\|thumb\|300px\|A name as subtle as [[Ferrus Manus\|Iron Hand]].]]		[[File:Krieg (planet).jpg\|thumb\|300px\|A name as subtle as [[Ferrus Manus\|Iron Hand]].]]
			{{Topquote\|There are no civilians on Krieg, only soldiers.\|Common saying}}
	'''Krieg''' (quite literally German for "war") was once a relatively nice [[Hive World]], a thriving hub of commerce and manufacturing that was home to billions, but that all changed in 433.M40 when the High Autocrat [[Heresy \| declared their independence]] from the [[Imperium of Man]]. A global civil war broke out and the heretical separatists swiftly exerted dominance over much of the world and its planetary defense network. Normally independence is suicide at best, but Krieg had such good defenses even a Sector Fleet would fail, which meant Krieg had a real chance of surviving on its own (until someone uses a stealth ship to exterminatus like a kill ship does). The loyalist [[Imperial Guard]] 83rd regiment under the command of Colonel Jurten staged a coup, taking control of Hive Ferrograd, however they were under siege and no outside aid was coming to help them retake the world. Alone and with orders to retaliate and reclaim the world at all costs, the loyalists [[Exterminatus \| fired their atomic rockets into the heretic hives]], annihilating them, preventing Krieg from falling to [[Chaos]]. This Purging resulted in the surface of Krieg becoming a [[Grimdark \| blasted, uninhabitable]] [[Death World]], trapped in an [[Fallout\|eternal nuclear winter]]; only the underground bunkers and deepest depths of its former hive cities were capable of supporting any kind of life.		'''Krieg''' (quite literally German for "war") was once a relatively nice [[Hive World]], a thriving hub of commerce and manufacturing that was home to billions, but that all changed in 433.M40 when the High Autocrat [[Heresy \| declared their independence]] from the [[Imperium of Man]]. A global civil war broke out and the heretical separatists swiftly exerted dominance over much of the world and its planetary defense network. Normally independence is suicide at best, but Krieg had such good defenses even a Sector Fleet would fail, which meant Krieg had a real chance of surviving on its own (until someone uses a stealth ship to exterminatus like a kill ship does). The loyalist [[Imperial Guard]] 83rd regiment under the command of Colonel Jurten staged a coup, taking control of Hive Ferrograd, however they were under siege and no outside aid was coming to help them retake the world. Alone and with orders to retaliate and reclaim the world at all costs, the loyalists [[Exterminatus \| fired their atomic rockets into the heretic hives]], annihilating them, preventing Krieg from falling to [[Chaos]]. This Purging resulted in the surface of Krieg becoming a [[Grimdark \| blasted, uninhabitable]] [[Death World]], trapped in an [[Fallout\|eternal nuclear winter]]; only the underground bunkers and deepest depths of its former hive cities were capable of supporting any kind of life.

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 What ''is'' canon, though, is that Krieg's corrupt autocrats took over Krieg and announced themselves separate from the Imperium, and it was the populace that fought for the Imperium. Contrary to what the people who love Krieg for the above take believe, canon Krieg isn't an example of a dictatorial Imperium crushing the population at all. Instead it's an example of the Imperium coldly writing Krieg off as a lost cause, but the loyalist population still fought against the corrupt anti-imperium rich assholes and somehow managed to win anyways, after which the Imperium noticed and said "Hey, we could really use these super loyal and tough guys!", to the point of bending the rules and allowing them the borderline sacrilege of cloning fully sentient humans (as opposed to custom engineering by AdMech of their children or Skitarii and no-memory Servitors).
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+Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all before then, because why waste resources on a dead world?).  In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.
 ==See Also==

1d4chan>TiamatRoar at 07:03, 7 February 2022

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	A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.		A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.

	Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete, the degenerate, the 'dumb billions'") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all ~~during that time~~). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.		Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete, the degenerate, the 'dumb billions'") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all before then, because why waste resources on a dead world?). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.

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1d4chan>TiamatRoar at 07:02, 7 February 2022

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	A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.		A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.

	Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete, the degenerate") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards ~~instead~~ of ~~just shivering in there like cowards~~. In ~~other words~~, ~~the canon~~ is the complete opposite of the above take.		Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete, the degenerate, the 'dumb billions'") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all during that time). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.

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	A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.		A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.

	Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete the degenerate") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards instead of just shivering in there like cowards. In other words, the canon is the complete opposite of the above take.		Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete, the degenerate") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards instead of just shivering in there like cowards. In other words, the canon is the complete opposite of the above take.

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1d4chan>TiamatRoar at 06:58, 7 February 2022

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	A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.		A similar take on the above is that Krieg is popular because it signifies the Imperium's ultimate, unflinching, hateful stubbornness in the face of rebellion. Imagine [[SJW\|the populists, the weak, the effete, the degenerate]] wanting to be free of the Imperium, decrying its autocracy. And they are winning. You have hordes of short-sighted, dumb billions telling you that [[Nazi\|you are an evil tyrant]] and have got to go (conveniently ignoring that Imperial members self-govern so much that even the Inquisitors who want to topple despots struggle to because planetary governments just have that much authority). The rebelling leaders smile, either too corrupt or too stupid to realize Chaos will make a buffet out of the planet or some [[Tau\|blueberry communist asshat]] takes over.

			Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous ("the weak, the effete the degenerate") actually fought FOR the Imperium against the autocrats and their elite troops. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards instead of just shivering in there like cowards. In other words, the canon is the complete opposite of the above take.

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	What do you do? Do you give up to the hordes waiting outside that will likely imprison or execute you for "being an evil tyrant", who think they know better? Those so-called 99% think they are the righteous ones, foolishly believing rebelling will make the evil wars go away and everyone will live in a retarded Hippyland. Do you surrender like Germans after Hitler finally did to himself [[Blam\|what he should have done years ago to both spare himself the pathetic misery after World War 1 and spare the world the atrocities him being decent at at giving speeches would cause]]?		What do you do? Do you give up to the hordes waiting outside that will likely imprison or execute you for "being an evil tyrant", who think they know better? Those so-called 99% think they are the righteous ones, foolishly believing rebelling will make the evil wars go away and everyone will live in a retarded Hippyland. Do you surrender like Germans after Hitler finally did to himself [[Blam\|what he should have done years ago to both spare himself the pathetic misery after World War 1 and spare the world the atrocities him being decent at at giving speeches would cause]]?
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	This is why Krieg is [[Awesome]], an example of unflinching, uncompromising spite, a monument of the autocracy of the State, which was Warhammer 40000's schtick from the beginning.		This is why Krieg is [[Awesome]], an example of unflinching, uncompromising spite, a monument of the autocracy of the State, which was Warhammer 40000's schtick from the beginning.

	Although this completely ignores the actual canon that it was actually the rich oligarchs that took over and declared themselves independent of the Imperium, and the rebellious populous actually fought FOR the Imperium. Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards instead of just shivering in there like cowards. In other words, the canon is the complete opposite of the above take.
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	[[File:Krieg (planet).jpg\|thumb\|300px\|A name as subtle as [[Ferrus Manus\|Iron Hand]].]]		[[File:Krieg (planet).jpg\|thumb\|300px\|A name as subtle as [[Ferrus Manus\|Iron Hand]].]]
			{{Topquote\|There are no civilians on Krieg, only soldiers.\|Common saying}}
	'''Krieg''' (quite literally German for "war") was once a relatively nice [[Hive World]], a thriving hub of commerce and manufacturing that was home to billions, but that all changed in 433.M40 when the High Autocrat [[Heresy \| declared their independence]] from the [[Imperium of Man]]. A global civil war broke out and the heretical separatists swiftly exerted dominance over much of the world and its planetary defense network. Normally independence is suicide at best, but Krieg had such good defenses even a Sector Fleet would fail, which meant Krieg had a real chance of surviving on its own (until someone uses a stealth ship to exterminatus like a kill ship does). The loyalist [[Imperial Guard]] 83rd regiment under the command of Colonel Jurten staged a coup, taking control of Hive Ferrograd, however they were under siege and no outside aid was coming to help them retake the world. Alone and with orders to retaliate and reclaim the world at all costs, the loyalists [[Exterminatus \| fired their atomic rockets into the heretic hives]], annihilating them, preventing Krieg from falling to [[Chaos]]. This Purging resulted in the surface of Krieg becoming a [[Grimdark \| blasted, uninhabitable]] [[Death World]], trapped in an [[Fallout\|eternal nuclear winter]]; only the underground bunkers and deepest depths of its former hive cities were capable of supporting any kind of life.		'''Krieg''' (quite literally German for "war") was once a relatively nice [[Hive World]], a thriving hub of commerce and manufacturing that was home to billions, but that all changed in 433.M40 when the High Autocrat [[Heresy \| declared their independence]] from the [[Imperium of Man]]. A global civil war broke out and the heretical separatists swiftly exerted dominance over much of the world and its planetary defense network. Normally independence is suicide at best, but Krieg had such good defenses even a Sector Fleet would fail, which meant Krieg had a real chance of surviving on its own (until someone uses a stealth ship to exterminatus like a kill ship does). The loyalist [[Imperial Guard]] 83rd regiment under the command of Colonel Jurten staged a coup, taking control of Hive Ferrograd, however they were under siege and no outside aid was coming to help them retake the world. Alone and with orders to retaliate and reclaim the world at all costs, the loyalists [[Exterminatus \| fired their atomic rockets into the heretic hives]], annihilating them, preventing Krieg from falling to [[Chaos]]. This Purging resulted in the surface of Krieg becoming a [[Grimdark \| blasted, uninhabitable]] [[Death World]], trapped in an [[Fallout\|eternal nuclear winter]]; only the underground bunkers and deepest depths of its former hive cities were capable of supporting any kind of life.

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	[[File:Krieg (planet).jpg\|thumb\|300px\|A name as subtle as [[Ferrus Manus\|Iron Hand]].]]		[[File:Krieg (planet).jpg\|thumb\|300px\|A name as subtle as [[Ferrus Manus\|Iron Hand]].]]
	{{Topquote\|There are no civilians on Krieg, only soldiers.\|Common saying}}		{{Topquote\|There are no civilians on Krieg, only soldiers.\|Common saying}}
	'''Krieg''' (quite literally German for "war") was once a relatively nice [[Hive World]], a thriving hub of commerce and manufacturing that was home to billions, but that all changed in 433.M40 when the High Autocrat [[Heresy \| declared their independence]] from the [[Imperium of Man]]. A global civil war broke out and the heretical separatists swiftly exerted dominance over much of the world and its planetary defense network. Normally independence is suicide at best, but Krieg had such good defenses even a Sector Fleet would fail, which meant Krieg had a real chance of surviving on its own (until someone uses a stealth ship to exterminatus like a kill ship does). The loyalist [[Imperial Guard]] 83rd regiment under the command of Colonel Jurten staged a coup, taking control of Hive Ferrograd, however they were under siege and no outside aid was coming to help them retake the world. Alone and with orders to retaliate and reclaim the world at all costs, the loyalists [[Exterminatus \| fired their atomic rockets into the heretic hives]], annihilating them, preventing Krieg from falling to [[Chaos]]. This Purging resulted in the surface of Krieg becoming a [[Grimdark \| blasted, uninhabitable]] [[Death World]], trapped in an [[Fallout\|eternal nuclear winter]]; only the underground bunkers and deepest depths of its former hive cities were capable of supporting any kind of life.		'''Krieg''' (quite literally German for "war") was once a relatively nice [[Hive World]], a thriving hub of commerce and manufacturing that was home to billions, but that all changed in 433.M40 when the High Autocrat [[Heresy \| declared their independence]] from the [[Imperium of Man]]. A global civil war broke out and the heretical separatists swiftly exerted dominance over much of the world and its planetary defense network. Normally independence is suicide at best, but Krieg had such good defenses even a Sector Fleet would fail, which meant Krieg had a real chance of surviving on its own (until someone uses a stealth ship to exterminatus like a kill ship does). The loyalist [[Imperial Guard]] 83rd regiment under the command of Colonel Jurten staged a coup, taking control of Hive Ferrograd, however they were under siege and no outside aid was coming to help them retake the world. Alone and with orders to retaliate and reclaim the world at all costs, the loyalists [[Exterminatus \| fired their atomic rockets into the heretic hives]], annihilating them, preventing Krieg from falling to [[Chaos]]. This Purging resulted in the surface of Krieg becoming a [[Grimdark \| blasted, uninhabitable]] [[Death World]], trapped in an [[Fallout\|eternal nuclear winter]]; only the underground bunkers and deepest depths of its former hive cities were capable of supporting any kind of life.

	The Purge wrought two changes in the psyche of the Kriegers: first, they had a debt to discharge, in order to make up for their Autocrat's heresy, and second, they got very used to digging underground and building bunkers and forts. Thus, the [[Death Korps of Krieg]] were born, an army of fatalistic siege-warrior clones. Visually, they are styled after WWI soldiers, with a propensity for trench-digging and hazmat gear. Fierce and callous, the Kriegers vowed to retake their world even if Imperial [[Administratum\|pencil pushers]] had already written it off as a loss. The Purge had merely evened the odds. The civil war raged on generation after generation as the loyalist's descendants purged the heretics trench to trench and tunnel by tunnel and after 500 years of warfare Krieg was finally retaken for the Imperium and for [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Big E]].		The Purge wrought two changes in the psyche of the Kriegers: first, they had a debt to discharge, in order to make up for their Autocrat's heresy, and second, they got very used to digging underground and building bunkers and forts. Thus, the [[Death Korps of Krieg]] were born, an army of fatalistic siege-warrior clones. Visually, they are styled after WWI soldiers, with a propensity for trench-digging and hazmat gear. Fierce and callous, the Kriegers vowed to retake their world even if Imperial [[Administratum\|pencil pushers]] had already written it off as a loss. The Purge had merely evened the odds. The civil war raged on generation after generation as the loyalist's descendants purged the heretics trench to trench and tunnel by tunnel and after 500 years of warfare Krieg was finally retaken for the Imperium and for [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Big E]].
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	==On [[/tg/]]==		==On [[/tg/]]==
	[[Skub\|Krieg is Skub.]] On one hand, lots of people love to portray Kriegers as fanatical autists, completely loyal to the Imperium and to warfare to the point that non-Kriegers doubt their humanity; the joke is that the Kriegers, like real Germans, feel so much [[Nazis\|guilt for the crimes of their ancestors]], they'll serve in the most dangerous theaters without a care for their own lives or the survival of their Regiment, because they believe their lives will regain Krieg's honor.		[[Skub\|Krieg is Skub.]] On one hand, lots of people love to portray Kriegers as fanatical autists, completely loyal to the Imperium and to warfare to the point that non-Kriegers doubt their humanity; the joke is that the Kriegers, like real Germans, feel so much [[Nazis\|guilt for the crimes of their ancestors]], they'll serve in the most dangerous theaters without a care for their own lives or the survival of their Regiment, because they believe their lives will regain Krieg's honor.

	Fa/tg/uys are enamored of the Death Korps of Krieg; there is a minor [[meme]] in which urgent shipments are found to have been replaced with Kriegers, who are ready to take orders and, absent any pressing duties, spend their spare time building earthwork fortifications (even in places where earth is nowhere to be found, like starships), based on an actual stereotype about Germans during their vacation in other countries ([http://i.imgur.com/ybsIci1.png no seriously]).		Fa/tg/uys are enamored of the Death Korps of Krieg; there is a minor [[meme]] in which urgent shipments are found to have been replaced with Kriegers, who are ready to take orders and, absent any pressing duties, spend their spare time building earthwork fortifications (even in places where earth is nowhere to be found, like starships), based on an actual stereotype about Germans during their vacation in other countries ([http://i.imgur.com/ybsIci1.png no seriously]).
	Also it needs to be said that in current non-jokey 40k canon there is an in-universe romance novel about Kriegers titled "My Wish to Produce Children with you is Exceeded Only by my Love for Him."		Also it needs to be said that in current non-jokey 40k canon there is an in-universe romance novel about Kriegers titled "My Wish to Produce Children with you is Exceeded Only by my Love for Him."

	On the other, Krieg has also always been popular with /pol/edgelords whose idea of the canon is that the Imperium's totalitarianism is justified in the midst of external threats and heretics (read:[[SJW\|people who disagree with them]] and "[[Eldar\|foreign]] [[Tau\|aliens]]"); this interpretation ignores that the Imperium's entire bureaucracy is incompetent, because it is riddled with [[Slaanesh\|self-serving]] corruption and divided by [[Tzeentch\|internal politics]], and based on [[Nurgle\|rigid, stagnant ideas]] that are so entirely removed from the Emperor's vision that the [[Roboute Guilliman\|Bureaucrat who designed]] the thing cries himself to sleep everynight just thinking about it; the only thing that unifies the Imperium as a whole is [[Khorne\|war]], and this is, after all, a tabletop war game. But remember, this is all just a setting for [[Your dudes]], the 40k universe is a setting of eternal war, and the Imperium is just as much the enemy of Humanity as it is its dictator . Whether or not this is true depends on how ''you'' see 40k, so your mileage may vary.		On the other, Krieg has also always been popular with /pol/edgelords whose idea of the canon is that the Imperium's totalitarianism is justified in the midst of external threats and heretics (read:[[SJW\|people who disagree with them]] and "[[Eldar\|foreign]] [[Tau\|aliens]]"); this interpretation ignores that the Imperium's entire bureaucracy is incompetent, because it is riddled with [[Slaanesh\|self-serving]] corruption and divided by [[Tzeentch\|internal politics]], and based on [[Nurgle\|rigid, stagnant ideas]] that are so entirely removed from the Emperor's vision that the [[Roboute Guilliman\|Bureaucrat who designed]] the thing cries himself to sleep everynight just thinking about it; the only thing that unifies the Imperium as a whole is [[Khorne\|war]], and this is, after all, a tabletop war game. But remember, this is all just a setting for [[Your dudes]], the 40k universe is a setting of eternal war, and the Imperium is just as much the enemy of Humanity as it is its dictator . Whether or not this is true depends on how ''you'' see 40k, so your mileage may vary.

	What ''is'' canon, though, is that Krieg's corrupt autocrats took over Krieg and announced themselves separate from the Imperium, and it was the populace that fought for the Imperium. Contrary to what the people who love Krieg for the above take believe, canon Krieg isn't an example of a dictatorial Imperium crushing the population at all. Instead it's an example of the Imperium coldly writing Krieg off as a lost cause, but the loyalist population still fought against the corrupt anti-imperium rich assholes and somehow managed to win anyways, after which the Imperium noticed and said "Hey, we could really use these super loyal and tough guys!", to the point of bending the rules and allowing them the borderline sacrilege of cloning fully sentient humans (as opposed to custom engineering by AdMech of their children or Skitarii and no-memory Servitors).		What ''is'' canon, though, is that Krieg's corrupt autocrats took over Krieg and announced themselves separate from the Imperium, and it was the populace that fought for the Imperium. Contrary to what the people who love Krieg for the above take believe, canon Krieg isn't an example of a dictatorial Imperium crushing the population at all. Instead it's an example of the Imperium coldly writing Krieg off as a lost cause, but the loyalist population still fought against the corrupt anti-imperium rich assholes and somehow managed to win anyways, after which the Imperium noticed and said "Hey, we could really use these super loyal and tough guys!", to the point of bending the rules and allowing them the borderline sacrilege of cloning fully sentient humans (as opposed to custom engineering by AdMech of their children or Skitarii and no-memory Servitors).

	Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all before then, because why waste resources on a dead world?). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.		Canon-wise, after Krieg became an eternal nuclear winter, the rebels continued fighting for the Imperium against the corrupt usurpers for centuries afterwards out of loyalty to the Imperium, and the Imperium only took notice of them after they won (and didn't intervene at all before then, because why waste resources on a dead world?). In essence, what actually canonically happened is the complete opposite of the above take.

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