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	Exactly why they're so primitive is never really explained. ''[[Dragon Magazine]]'' did once do an "Ecology of the Lizardfolk" article, which gave them a religious basis; essentially, in vanilla D&D, Lizardfolk worship a [[dickgirl\|hermaphrodite]] goddess, [[Semuanya]], who they portray as nothing more than a god-beast - a creature of divine might that concerns itself only with the basic needs of survival, no smarter than any animal. Furthermore, Semuanya once had a mate named [[Kecuala]], who unlike its spouse was actually a thinking creature and so constantly thought about the world around it. Eventually, it thought so much that it split itself into two creatures, one male and one female, so it would be able to properly act on its thoughts. Those two Kecualas were the first Lizardfolk. As a result, lizardfolk literally demonize intelligence as evil, an unnatural and wasteful attribute, and deliberately try to be as feral as possible in hopes of one day restoring Kecuala to life.		Exactly why they're so primitive is never really explained. ''[[Dragon Magazine]]'' did once do an "Ecology of the Lizardfolk" article, which gave them a religious basis; essentially, in vanilla D&D, Lizardfolk worship a [[dickgirl\|hermaphrodite]] goddess, [[Semuanya]], who they portray as nothing more than a god-beast - a creature of divine might that concerns itself only with the basic needs of survival, no smarter than any animal. Furthermore, Semuanya once had a mate named [[Kecuala]], who unlike its spouse was actually a thinking creature and so constantly thought about the world around it. Eventually, it thought so much that it split itself into two creatures, one male and one female, so it would be able to properly act on its thoughts. Those two Kecualas were the first Lizardfolk. As a result, lizardfolk literally demonize intelligence as evil, an unnatural and wasteful attribute, and deliberately try to be as feral as possible in hopes of one day restoring Kecuala to life.

	Conversely, [[Pathfinder]] ties the answer to their environment and biology. They don't breed as quickly or have the same kind of impatient ambition as the warm-blooded creatures, so their population grows slowly and they are more-easily content with meeting their basic survival needs. And because they live in swamps, where metal is hard to get and quickly rusts and cloth or paper quickly rot, they derive less utility from many of the more-obvious trappings of other cultures. Notably, they ''do'' actually have a rich tradition of arts and oral storytelling that everyone else tend to ignore, and the xenophobic lizardfolk can't convey since none of them care to learn how to converse with other races.		Conversely, [[Pathfinder]] ties the answer to their environment and biology. They don't breed as quickly or have the same kind of impatient ambition as the warm-blooded creatures, so their population grows slowly and they are more-easily content with meeting their basic survival needs. And because they live in swamps, where metal is hard to get and quickly rusts and cloth or paper quickly rot, they derive less utility from many of the more-obvious trappings of other cultures. Notably, they ''do'' actually have a rich tradition of arts and oral storytelling that everyone else tend to ignore, and the xenophobic lizardfolk can't convey since none of them care to learn how to converse with other races. They also have an actual name for themselves and their culture: '''The Iruxi'''. They generally worship nature, their ancestors, or [[Desna]] when they wander off to adventure.

	The meta-reason is probably related to why the lizardfolk are always seen in swamps. Lizards, like all reptiles, are ancient creatures, tens of millions of years old, and haven't needed to change much since they got the basic template down before the dawn of the dinosaurs. As a result, lizards have a "primeval" motif ingrained in pop culture. So, lizardfolk being primitives just builds on that theme. Likewise, the age when reptiles ruled was a time when the world was covered in lush rainforests, swamps and marshlands, so even though modern swamps are more home to crocodilians, snakes and turtles than lizards, lizardfolk and swamp just go together under that motif.		The meta-reason is probably related to why the lizardfolk are always seen in swamps. Lizards, like all reptiles, are ancient creatures, tens of millions of years old, and haven't needed to change much since they got the basic template down before the dawn of the dinosaurs. As a result, lizards have a "primeval" motif ingrained in pop culture. So, lizardfolk being primitives just builds on that theme. Likewise, the age when reptiles ruled was a time when the world was covered in lush rainforests, swamps and marshlands, so even though modern swamps are more home to crocodilians, snakes and turtles than lizards, lizardfolk and swamp just go together under that motif.

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	The Lizardfolk in Eberron are different in such [[awesome]] ways that they need their own piece of this page. As state previously there are 3 main types of Lizardfolk in Eberron: Cold Sun (your standard-issue Lizardfolk), Blackscale (Lizardfolk that claim to be chosen by a dark dragon god named Masvirik the Cold Sun) and Poisondusk (little dudes that follow the Blackscale). They are in other places, but the main lot is in Q'barra.		The Lizardfolk in Eberron are different in such [[awesome]] ways that they need their own piece of this page. As state previously there are 3 main types of Lizardfolk in Eberron: Cold Sun (your standard-issue Lizardfolk), Blackscale (Lizardfolk that claim to be chosen by a dark dragon god named Masvirik the Cold Sun) and Poisondusk (little dudes that follow the Blackscale). They are in other places, but the main lot is in Q'barra.
	*Cold Sun Federation: The Alliance of the Cold Sun. No they don't support the Cold Sun. Yes this name does make perfect sense to them that they are the Alliance ''against'' the cold sun. Yes it does cause confusion and conflict between them and the Q'barran colonists. Yes they do have issues communicating with each other. What of it?		*Cold Sun Federation: The Alliance of the Cold Sun. No they don't support the Cold Sun. Yes this name does make perfect sense to them that they are the Alliance ''against'' the cold sun. Yes it does cause confusion and conflict between them and the Q'barran colonists. Yes they do have issues communicating with each other. What of it? Of the 24 tribes that are part of the Cold Sun the colonists of Q'barra met just 7 with only 1 of them, the Twilight Walkers, becoming friendly and willing to help them communicate with the other tribes. The tribes are old as HELL. They are the oldest living government in Eberron. They created themselves after the Coatls did their whole heroic sacrifice thingy and the non-Masvirik touched Lizardfolk became touched by the Silver Flame and have shared dreams as a result. The shared dreams also result in their language being heavily shrouded by metaphor which causes the current communication issues. To understand the way we speak imagine that instead of actually saying "You are a phenomenal singer!" you instead said "You are a Freddie Mercury!" and an alien civilization came by. They could likely translate the literal definition but would have to do a crap ton of research to find the significance of every single figure humans are referencing when speaking.
	Of the 24 tribes that are part of the Cold Sun the colonists of Q'barra met just 7 with only 1 of them, the Twilight Walkers, becoming friendly and willing to help them communicate with the other tribes.
	The tribes are old as HELL. They are the oldest living government in Eberron. They created themselves after the Coatls did their whole heroic sacrifice thingy and the non-Masvirik touched Lizardfolk became touched by the Silver Flame and have shared dreams as a result. The shared dreams also result in their language being heavily shrouded by metaphor which causes the current communication issues. To understand the way we speak imagine that instead of actually saying "You are a phenomenal singer!" you instead said "You are a Freddie Mercury!" and an alien civilization came by. They could likely translate the literal definition but would have to do a crap ton of research to find the significance of every single figure humans are referencing when speaking.

	=PC Stats=		=PC Stats=

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	=Eberron Fluff=		=Eberron Fluff=
	The Lizardfolk in Eberron are different in such [[awesome]] ways that they need their own piece of this page. As state previously there are 3 main types of Lizardfolk in Eberron: Cold Sun (your standard-issue Lizardfolk), Blackscale (Lizardfolk ~~chose~~ by a dark dragon god named Masvirik the Cold Sun) and Poisondusk (little dudes that follow the Blackscale). They are in other places, but the main lot is in Q'barra.		The Lizardfolk in Eberron are different in such [[awesome]] ways that they need their own piece of this page. As state previously there are 3 main types of Lizardfolk in Eberron: Cold Sun (your standard-issue Lizardfolk), Blackscale (Lizardfolk that claim to be chosen by a dark dragon god named Masvirik the Cold Sun) and Poisondusk (little dudes that follow the Blackscale). They are in other places, but the main lot is in Q'barra.
	*Cold Sun Federation: The Alliance of the Cold Sun. No they don't support the Cold Sun. Yes this name does make perfect sense to them. Yes it does cause confusion and conflict between them and the Q'barran colonists. Yes they do have issues communicating with each other.		*Cold Sun Federation: The Alliance of the Cold Sun. No they don't support the Cold Sun. Yes this name does make perfect sense to them that they are the Alliance ''against'' the cold sun. Yes it does cause confusion and conflict between them and the Q'barran colonists. Yes they do have issues communicating with each other. What of it?
			Of the 24 tribes that are part of the Cold Sun the colonists of Q'barra met just 7 with only 1 of them, the Twilight Walkers, becoming friendly and willing to help them communicate with the other tribes.
			The tribes are old as HELL. They are the oldest living government in Eberron. They created themselves after the Coatls did their whole heroic sacrifice thingy and the non-Masvirik touched Lizardfolk became touched by the Silver Flame and have shared dreams as a result. The shared dreams also result in their language being heavily shrouded by metaphor which causes the current communication issues. To understand the way we speak imagine that instead of actually saying "You are a phenomenal singer!" you instead said "You are a Freddie Mercury!" and an alien civilization came by. They could likely translate the literal definition but would have to do a crap ton of research to find the significance of every single figure humans are referencing when speaking.

	=PC Stats=		=PC Stats=

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	3rd edition wasn't so inventive. [[Eberron]] mentioned the existence of Blackscale and Poison Dusk lizardfolk; the ''Monster Manual III'' confirmed that these were, respectively, larger, dark-scaled, stronger lizardfolk and smaller, smarter lizardfolk with a penchant for ranged weaponry. Many speculate as to the possible influence of the [[Warhammer Fantasy]] [[Lizardmen]] upon these races. The ''MM IV'' added the Dark Talons; evil lizardfolk alchemically infused with black dragon blood.		3rd edition wasn't so inventive. [[Eberron]] mentioned the existence of Blackscale and Poison Dusk lizardfolk; the ''Monster Manual III'' confirmed that these were, respectively, larger, dark-scaled, stronger lizardfolk and smaller, smarter lizardfolk with a penchant for ranged weaponry. Many speculate as to the possible influence of the [[Warhammer Fantasy]] [[Lizardmen]] upon these races. The ''MM IV'' added the Dark Talons; evil lizardfolk alchemically infused with black dragon blood.

			=Eberron Fluff=
			The Lizardfolk in Eberron are different in such [[awesome]] ways that they need their own piece of this page. As state previously there are 3 main types of Lizardfolk in Eberron: Cold Sun (your standard-issue Lizardfolk), Blackscale (Lizardfolk chose by a dark dragon god named Masvirik the Cold Sun) and Poisondusk (little dudes that follow the Blackscale). They are in other places, but the main lot is in Q'barra.
			*Cold Sun Federation: The Alliance of the Cold Sun. No they don't support the Cold Sun. Yes this name does make perfect sense to them. Yes it does cause confusion and conflict between them and the Q'barran colonists. Yes they do have issues communicating with each other.

	=PC Stats=		=PC Stats=

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1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Ssurrans and Athasian Lizardfolk are two separate creatures.

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Ssurrans and Athasian Lizardfolk are two separate creatures.

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	* ''[[Dragon Magazine]]'' got in on the fun too; issue #268 featured four new varieties of lizardfolk, in the form of the Agrutha (gator-folk), Crocodilians (even bigger and more savage versions of the Agrutha), the Geckonids (peaceful, friendly and inquisitive gecko-people), the Varanids (warlike komodo-people), the Tokay (evil counterparts to the Geckonids), and Iquanids (iguana-people in sea and land form).		* ''[[Dragon Magazine]]'' got in on the fun too; issue #268 featured four new varieties of lizardfolk, in the form of the Agrutha (gator-folk), Crocodilians (even bigger and more savage versions of the Agrutha), the Geckonids (peaceful, friendly and inquisitive gecko-people), the Varanids (warlike komodo-people), the Tokay (evil counterparts to the Geckonids), and Iquanids (iguana-people in sea and land form).
	* The Varkha, introduced in ''Dragon Magazine Annual'' #1 before making it into Volume IV of the ''Monstrous Compendium Annual'', are a race of malevolent aquatic/amphibious lizardfolk that stalk the waterways of the [[Underdark]].		* The Varkha, introduced in ''Dragon Magazine Annual'' #1 before making it into Volume IV of the ''Monstrous Compendium Annual'', are a race of malevolent aquatic/amphibious lizardfolk that stalk the waterways of the [[Underdark]].
	* The Lizardfolk of [[Dark Sun]], originally believed to be extinct, were later revealed to have survived in the infamously divisive "Mind Lords of the Last Sea" sourcebooks, becoming the [[Ssurran]]s, the ~~only element of those books to return for 4th edition.~~ [[Pterran]]s ~~are also~~ lizardfolk, ~~albeit with pteranodon ancestry~~.		* The Lizardfolk of [[Dark Sun]], originally believed to be extinct, were later revealed to have survived in the infamously divisive "Mind Lords of the Last Sea" sourcebooks, becoming a more civilized ''fully amphibious'' race living on the floor of Athas' last sea, Mintara. Other sourcebooks introduced lizardfolk analogues in the [[Ssurran]]s (who made it into 4e) and the [[Pterran]]s (who didn't, despite having been one of the playable races in the Revised Edition of the setting). Athasian lizardfolk were never officially playable, though fans did give them PC stats in 3rd edition.
	* The Malatran lizardfolk appeared in ''[[Polyhedron_Magazine\|Polyhedron]]'' #121.		* The Malatran lizardfolk appeared in ''[[Polyhedron_Magazine\|Polyhedron]]'' #121.
	* [[Spelljammer]] had its own take on lizardfolk, too.		* [[Spelljammer]] had its own take on lizardfolk, too.

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	* Dark Sun Campaign Setting, Revised ([[Pterran]]) - AD&D 2e		* Dark Sun Campaign Setting, Revised ([[Pterran]]) - AD&D 2e
	* Complete Book of Humanoids (Common Lizardman) - AD&D 2e		* Complete Book of Humanoids (Common Lizardman) - AD&D 2e
	* Spelljammer Boxed Set: Lorebook of the Void (Astromundi Lizardman) - AD&D 2e		* Spelljammer Boxed Set: Lorebook of the Void ([[Astromundi Cluster\|Astromundi]] Lizardman) - AD&D 2e
	* Complete Spacefarer's Handbook (Astromundi Lizardman) - AD&D 2e		* Complete Spacefarer's Handbook (Astromundi Lizardman) - AD&D 2e
	* Dragon Magazine #268 ([[Agrutha]], [[Crocodilian]], [[Varanid]], [[Geckonid]], [[Tokay]], [[Iguanid]])		* Dragon Magazine #268 ([[Agrutha]], [[Crocodilian]], [[Varanid]], [[Geckonid]], [[Tokay]], [[Iguanid]])

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