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Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts

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	===Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts===		===Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts===
	Pretty much ~~just~~ [[Grimgor Ironhide]] with +1 to Strength and ~~Toughness~~ and an Orcs/Goblins/Ogres affecting augment innate bound spell (Locus of Ghur; power level 6, grants +1 Strength and +1 Toughness to all viable units within 12" until start of next Magic Phase) and the ability to re-roll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls when fighting in a challenge. Costs 460 points.		Pretty much [[Grimgor Ironhide]] with +1 to Strength, Toughness, Wounds and Attacks, and an Orcs/Goblins/Ogres affecting augment innate bound spell (Locus of Ghur; power level 6, grants +1 Strength and +1 Toughness to all viable units within 12" until start of next Magic Phase) and the ability to re-roll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls when fighting in a challenge. Costs 460 points.

	===Archaon Everchosen, The Three-Eyed King===		===Archaon Everchosen, The Three-Eyed King===

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Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts

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	===Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts===		===Grimgor, Incarnate of Beasts===
	Pretty much just [[Grimgor Ironhide]] with an Orcs/Goblins/Ogres affecting augment innate bound spell (Locus of Ghur; power level 6, grants +1 Strength and +1 Toughness to all viable units within 12" until start of next Magic Phase) and the ability to re-roll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls when fighting in a challenge. Costs 460 points.		Pretty much just [[Grimgor Ironhide]] with +1 to Strength and Toughness and an Orcs/Goblins/Ogres affecting augment innate bound spell (Locus of Ghur; power level 6, grants +1 Strength and +1 Toughness to all viable units within 12" until start of next Magic Phase) and the ability to re-roll failed To Hit and To Wound rolls when fighting in a challenge. Costs 460 points.

	===Archaon Everchosen, The Three-Eyed King===		===Archaon Everchosen, The Three-Eyed King===

144.131.104.148: /* Caradryan, Incarnate of Fire */

2015-09-10T21:29:48Z

Caradryan, Incarnate of Fire

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	====Caradryan, Incarnate of Fire====		====Caradryan, Incarnate of Fire====
	Because apparently it wasn't enough that the elves got to have the Incarnates of Life, Shadow and Light. Bastards. Flying Special Character Monster that costs 590 points, he's the only spellcasting Incarnate who isn't a level 5 Wizard - he's only freaking level 3. Most unique special ability is the Mark of Aqshy, which causes him to explode and do 3D6 S4 Flaming Magical Attacks on the unit or challenging character that killed him.		Because apparently it wasn't enough that the elves got to have the Incarnates of Life, Shadow and Light. Bastards (hey, the whole Incarnates thing was their idea). Flying Special Character Monster that costs 590 points, he's the only spellcasting Incarnate who isn't a level 5 Wizard - he's only freaking level 3. Most unique special ability is the Mark of Aqshy, which causes him to explode and do 3D6 S4 Flaming Magical Attacks on the unit or challenging character that killed him.

	===Balthasar Gelt, Incarnate of Metal===		===Balthasar Gelt, Incarnate of Metal===

144.131.104.148: /* Nagash */

2015-09-10T21:24:24Z

Nagash

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	Nagash was the first of the major characters released during the End Times, and FUCK, he is a [[rape]] train. WS, BS, S, T and W 7, M, I, A 6, and Ld 10. He is a lord level monster, and despite being the first of the Lords of the End Times, he is overall the most powerful.		Nagash was the first of the major characters released during the End Times, and FUCK, he is a [[rape]] train. WS, BS, S, T and W 7, M, I, A 6, and Ld 10. He is a lord level monster, and despite being the first of the Lords of the End Times, he is overall the most powerful.

	With a 4+ armour and a 4+ ward save, and with one of his items being rendered utterly obsolete by the Khaine magic rules, he was lifted up to hi position on top again by those same rules. He is a level 5 wizard, who can take spells from five spell lores. This is what makes him better than any of the other level 5 wizards. They get just the one spell lore. The fact that the death wind has been used in so many different iterations, and the fact that Nagash has the lore of light (due to him being Nehekaran), means that in total Nagash has 41 different spells and he can regenerate wounds with these left right and center. In addition, he can store up to four dice in his staff, and use them to empower his spells, or his strikes. In combat, he will beat out the Glottkin if they haven't buffed themselves (otherwise he's probably fucked) thanks to having multiple wounds (D3) and better Initiative, he'll would crush Alarielle into the dirt, but Karl Franz, Tyrion, Malekith and even Imrik would all probably finish him off in one round, unless he has fully buffed himself with every possible spell he has (something that will likely never happen and even then Karl Franz can still beat him). However, in addition to this, he hugely buffs his army: -2 wound due to combat res, and the reason he's still up there for the most powerful Lord is his ability to summon way WAY too many undead to the table. Nagash doesn't need magic missiles, he has 150(!) zombies for that, spawned 36" away. Need a monster? Well, here's one worth up to 600pts in your face. The Undead Legions list helps with this, as it has lots of ways to improve the magic phase, and seriously, god help any poor fool who plays Nagash and Mannfred the Mortarch when Mannfred is in combat. Everyone else has a basic maximum of 24 dice in the power pool. The Undead can have up to 41 BEFORE CHANNELING. Lets not even think about the result of this when wielding end times spells with up to a +10 casting bonus.		With a 4+ armour and a 4+ ward save, and with one of his items being rendered utterly obsolete by the Khaine magic rules, he was lifted up to hi position on top again by those same rules. He is a level 5 wizard, who can take spells from five spell lores. This is what makes him better than any of the other level 5 wizards. They get just the one spell lore. The fact that the death wind has been used in so many different iterations, and the fact that Nagash has the lore of light (due to him being Nehekaran), means that in total Nagash has 41 different spells and he can regenerate wounds with these left right and center. In addition, he can store up to four dice in his staff, and use them to empower his spells, or his strikes. In combat, he will beat out the Glottkin if they haven't buffed themselves (otherwise he's probably fucked, unless he just throws a Purple Sun of "test-or-die" Xeres at them, which he can easily do) thanks to having multiple wounds (D3) and better Initiative, he'll would crush Alarielle into the dirt, but Karl Franz, Tyrion, Malekith and even Imrik would all probably finish him off in one round, unless he has fully buffed himself with every possible spell he has (something that will likely never happen and even then Karl Franz can still beat him). However, in addition to this, he hugely buffs his army: -2 wound due to combat res, and the reason he's still up there for the most powerful Lord is his ability to summon way WAY too many undead to the table. Nagash doesn't need magic missiles, he has 150(!) zombies for that, spawned 36" away. Need a monster? Well, here's one worth up to 600pts in your face. The Undead Legions list helps with this, as it has lots of ways to improve the magic phase, and seriously, god help any poor fool who plays Nagash and Mannfred the Mortarch when Mannfred is in combat. Everyone else has a basic maximum of 24 dice in the power pool. The Undead can have up to 41 BEFORE CHANNELING. Lets not even think about the result of this when wielding end times spells with up to a +10 casting bonus.

	===Glottkin===		===Glottkin===

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2015-04-13T14:00:51Z

Glottkin

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	On the magic front, they're a level 4 Lore of Nurgle wizard. That's it. This isn't that bad, after all with Curse of the Leper they can up their Toughness to a possible 9(!) though typically 8, which means they have pretty good odds in combat against any character who doesn't wound automatically. There's the standard problem of miscasts, and oddly enough the Glottkin don't have any way of preventing snake-eyes from killing them the way the other spell-casters do (though that's rare enough to almost ignore).		On the magic front, they're a level 4 Lore of Nurgle wizard. That's it. This isn't that bad, after all with Curse of the Leper they can up their Toughness to a possible 9(!) though typically 8, which means they have pretty good odds in combat against any character who doesn't wound automatically. There's the standard problem of miscasts, and oddly enough the Glottkin don't have any way of preventing snake-eyes from killing them the way the other spell-casters do (though that's rare enough to almost ignore).

	The Glottkin only really shine if you're up against an army that doesn't have access to (or doesn't roll) "test or die" spells like Pit of Shades or Purple Sun, and if that army also doesn't have a ton of artillery. However, the fact that they blend magic and melee acceptably means that you will probably see some mileage out of them.		The Glottkin only really shine if you're up against an army that doesn't have access to (or doesn't roll) "test or die" spells like Pit of Shades or Purple Sun, and if that army also doesn't have a ton of artillery. However, the fact that they blend magic and melee acceptably means that you will probably see some mileage out of them. Or you go fuck it and take Archaon Everchosen instead: He is better, similar cost and fulfils the exact same role.

	===Karl Franz Ascendant===		===Karl Franz Ascendant===

81.158.77.3: /* Archaon Everchosen, The Three-Eyed King */

2015-04-13T13:57:57Z

Archaon Everchosen, The Three-Eyed King

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	Beefed up version of [[Archaon]] that costs 865 points. He can have up to ''twelve attacks'' per round, making him one of the only characters with greater than 10s in any characteristic. He's a Special Character Monstrous Cavalry, and like the other such characters who came out in the End Times (Glottkin and [[Thanquol]], that means his stats are merged with that of Dorghar. M8 WS9 BS5 S5 T5 W7 I7 A8 Ld10. He's a level 4 wizard who uses the Lores of Death, Fire, Metal, Shadow and Tzeentch (Mortal). He has the universal rules of Eye of the Gods, Daemonic Attacks, Unbreakable and Strider, and the unique rules of Chosen of the Gods (counts as having all 4 Chaos Marks, can join any Marked Unit, will share any Marked unit with a Marked champion, re-roll Eye of the Gods results, treats Eye of the Storm and The Eye Opens as Khorne's Wrath and Dark Fury respectively), His Time Is Come (must be army general, Inspiring Presence 24"), and Swords of Chaos (upgrade one unit of Chaos Knights to Swords of Chaos; this unit cannot be Marked, but gains Hatred and Unbreakable).		Beefed up version of [[Archaon]] that costs 865 points. He can have up to ''twelve attacks'' per round, making him one of the only characters with greater than 10s in any characteristic. He's a Special Character Monstrous Cavalry, and like the other such characters who came out in the End Times (Glottkin and [[Thanquol]], that means his stats are merged with that of Dorghar. M8 WS9 BS5 S5 T5 W7 I7 A8 Ld10. He's a level 4 wizard who uses the Lores of Death, Fire, Metal, Shadow and Tzeentch (Mortal). He has the universal rules of Eye of the Gods, Daemonic Attacks, Unbreakable and Strider, and the unique rules of Chosen of the Gods (counts as having all 4 Chaos Marks, can join any Marked Unit, will share any Marked unit with a Marked champion, re-roll Eye of the Gods results, treats Eye of the Storm and The Eye Opens as Khorne's Wrath and Dark Fury respectively), His Time Is Come (must be army general, Inspiring Presence 24"), and Swords of Chaos (upgrade one unit of Chaos Knights to Swords of Chaos; this unit cannot be Marked, but gains Hatred and Unbreakable).

	He wields the Slayer of Kings (Magic Weapon, Ignores Armor, can Call Upon U'zuhl to boost Attacks to 12 but cause To Hit rolls of 1 to hit Archaon or adjacent friendly instead), wears the Armor of Morkar (1+ Armor Save, cannot be wounded on anything better than a 3+), and sports the Crown of Domination (causes Terror, allies within 12" can re-roll failed Break tests) and the Eye of Sheerian (4+ Ward Save, boosted to 3+ by the Chosen of the Gods rule).		He wields the Slayer of Kings (Magic Weapon, Ignores Armor, can Call Upon U'zuhl to boost Attacks to 12 but cause To Hit rolls of 1 to hit Archaon or adjacent friendly instead), wears the Armor of Morkar (1+ Armor Save, cannot be wounded on anything better than a 3+), and sports the Crown of Domination (causes Terror, allies within 12" can re-roll failed Break tests) and the Eye of Sheerian (4+ Ward Save, boosted to 3+ by the Chosen of the Gods rule). Note that thanks to his marks, he has frenzy (so 9 attacks base) and all enemies are at -1 to hit him in melee.

			You see, Glottkin/Vlad von Carstein, this is how you roll commander, wizard lord and warrior into one package in an awesome way. He will, in fact, thanks to his marks and gear, beat out most of the other lords of the end times in a fight, as unless they are WS10 (Tyrion, Bloodthirsters) they will need 5+ to hit, and then they will need 3+ to wound at best. That is 7/9 of most, if not all characters attacks gone, barring some re-rolling shenanigans. Plus, he has 41 spells, and a sword that ignores armour at S6 (Put him in a unit with the beast banner, and watch your opponent cry). Fun side not. Use Okkams Mindrazor and unleash U'zuhl. 12S10 attacks at WS9 and I8 equals FUN.

	===Isabella the Accursed===		===Isabella the Accursed===

1d4chan>Triacom: /* Nagash */ - Actually my mathhammer was right, nevermind

2015-04-04T01:55:16Z

Nagash: - Actually my mathhammer was right, nevermind

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	===Nagash===		===Nagash===
	Nagash was the first of the major characters released during the End Times, and FUCK, he is a [[rape]] train. WS, BS, S, T and W 7, M, I, A 6, and Ld 10. He is a lord level monster, and despite being the first of the Lords of the End Times, he is ~~still probably~~ the most powerful.		Nagash was the first of the major characters released during the End Times, and FUCK, he is a [[rape]] train. WS, BS, S, T and W 7, M, I, A 6, and Ld 10. He is a lord level monster, and despite being the first of the Lords of the End Times, he is overall the most powerful.

	With a 4+ armour and a 4+ ward save, and with one of his items being rendered utterly obsolete by the Khaine magic rules, he was lifted up to hi position on top again by those same rules. He is a level 5 wizard, who can take spells from five spell lores. This is what makes him better than any of the other level 5 wizards. They get just the one spell lore. The fact that the death wind has been used in so many different iterations, and the fact that Nagash has the lore of light ~~for some reason~~, means that in total Nagash has 41 different spells. In addition, he can store up to four dice in his staff, and use them to empower his spells, or his strikes. In combat, he will ~~probably~~ beat out the Glottkin thanks to having multiple wounds (D3) and better Initiative, ~~and~~ he would crush Alarielle into the dirt, but Karl Franz, Tyrion, Malekith and even Imrik would all probably finish him off in one round, unless he ~~had~~ buffed himself. However, in addition to this, he hugely buffs his army: -2 wound due to combat res, and the ability to summon way WAY too many ~~more~~ undead to the table~~, and regenerate wounds left right and center~~. Nagash doesn't need magic missiles, he has zombies for that, spawned 36" away. Need a monster~~, well~~, here's one worth up to 600pts in your face. The ~~undead legions~~ list helps with this, as it has lots of ways to improve the magic phase, and seriously, god help any poor fool who plays Nagash and Mannfred the Mortarch when Mannfred is in combat. Everyone else has a basic maximum of 24 dice in the power pool. The Undead can have up to 41 BEFORE CHANNELING. Lets not even think about the result of this when wielding end times spells with up to a +10 casting bonus.		With a 4+ armour and a 4+ ward save, and with one of his items being rendered utterly obsolete by the Khaine magic rules, he was lifted up to hi position on top again by those same rules. He is a level 5 wizard, who can take spells from five spell lores. This is what makes him better than any of the other level 5 wizards. They get just the one spell lore. The fact that the death wind has been used in so many different iterations, and the fact that Nagash has the lore of light (due to him being Nehekaran), means that in total Nagash has 41 different spells and he can regenerate wounds with these left right and center. In addition, he can store up to four dice in his staff, and use them to empower his spells, or his strikes. In combat, he will beat out the Glottkin if they haven't buffed themselves (otherwise he's probably fucked) thanks to having multiple wounds (D3) and better Initiative, he'll would crush Alarielle into the dirt, but Karl Franz, Tyrion, Malekith and even Imrik would all probably finish him off in one round, unless he has fully buffed himself with every possible spell he has (something that will likely never happen and even then Karl Franz can still beat him). However, in addition to this, he hugely buffs his army: -2 wound due to combat res, and the reason he's still up there for the most powerful Lord is his ability to summon way WAY too many undead to the table. Nagash doesn't need magic missiles, he has 150(!) zombies for that, spawned 36" away. Need a monster? Well, here's one worth up to 600pts in your face. The Undead Legions list helps with this, as it has lots of ways to improve the magic phase, and seriously, god help any poor fool who plays Nagash and Mannfred the Mortarch when Mannfred is in combat. Everyone else has a basic maximum of 24 dice in the power pool. The Undead can have up to 41 BEFORE CHANNELING. Lets not even think about the result of this when wielding end times spells with up to a +10 casting bonus.

	===Glottkin===		===Glottkin===

1d4chan>Triacom: /* Glottkin */ The Glottkin have 12 wounds, and can buff themselves with Curse of the Lepper, not to mention the armour and regen save, they're not nearly this easy to remove.

2015-04-04T01:46:36Z

Glottkin: The Glottkin have 12 wounds, and can buff themselves with Curse of the Lepper, not to mention the armour and regen save, they're not nearly this easy to remove.

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	===Glottkin===		===Glottkin===
	Pretty ~~much the~~ bottom tier of the characters listed here, the Glottkin are a mix of fight and magic ~~done in exactly the wrong way~~.		Pretty close to bottom tier on the characters listed here, the Glottkin are an attempted mix of fight and magic.

	With WS6, S6, T6, 5+D6A, of which one is S10 with multiple wounds D6, Ld10, with a 4+ armour save, regeneration, and poisoned attacks, they seem pretty killy. Especially when you take into account that they cause terror, have 12 wounds. Look at that again. 12W. In addition, a S3 breath weapon that ignores armour, and always get +1 ward save from eye of the gods. The big problem, however, is simple. They're Large Target and they are '''slow'''. Slow as a slug dipped in tar. Okay, at Movement 6 they can leg it at a reasonable pace, but they have freaking '''I1'''. They're going to get hacked down by just about anything with better Initiative and decent killing power in melee, and blown to pieces by massed artillery fire from a range.		With WS6, S6, T6, 5+D6A, of which one is S10 with multiple wounds D6, Ld10, with a 4+ armour save, regeneration, and poisoned attacks, they seem pretty killy. Especially when you take into account that they cause terror, have 12 wounds. Look at that again. 12W. In addition, a S3 breath weapon that ignores armour, and always get +1 ward save from eye of the gods. The big problem, however, is simple. They're Large Target and they are '''slow'''. Slow as a slug dipped in tar. Okay, at Movement 6 they can leg it at a reasonable pace, but they have freaking '''I1'''. They're going to get hacked down by just about anything with better Initiative and decent killing power in melee like knights (provided they haven't used Curse of the Leper on themselves), and like every other Monster Character they can be blown to pieces by massed artillery fire from a range.

	On the magic front, they're a level 4 Lore of Nurgle wizard. That's it. This ~~wouldn~~'t ~~be so~~ bad, ~~but~~, ~~you really~~ ''~~do not'' want your super-special general to be a caster if you~~ don't have ~~some~~ way of preventing them ~~from going bye-bye~~ the ~~first time you roll a miscast. All of~~ the other casters ~~here have something to make spellcasting less likely~~ to ~~bite them in the balls, but the Glottkin don't have that. So, yeah, waste of potential~~.		On the magic front, they're a level 4 Lore of Nurgle wizard. That's it. This isn't that bad, after all with Curse of the Leper they can up their Toughness to a possible 9(!) though typically 8, which means they have pretty good odds in combat against any character who doesn't wound automatically. There's the standard problem of miscasts, and oddly enough the Glottkin don't have any way of preventing snake-eyes from killing them the way the other spell-casters do (though that's rare enough to almost ignore).

	The Glottkin ~~are ok, but even fucking Alarielle will probably murder them, thanks~~ to ~~her Touch~~ of ~~Purity special rule. They are the weakest spellcasters~~, and ~~the weakest warriors~~. However, the fact that they blend ~~the two~~ acceptably means that you will probably see some mileage out of them.		The Glottkin only really shine if you're up against an army that doesn't have access to (or doesn't roll) "test or die" spells like Pit of Shades or Purple Sun, and if that army also doesn't have a ton of artillery. However, the fact that they blend magic and melee acceptably means that you will probably see some mileage out of them.

	===Karl Franz Ascendant===		===Karl Franz Ascendant===