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	Let's also not even get into the topic of Lorgar being probably the first Primarch to actively combat Chaos cults, back on his own homeworld, even if he did it for different reasons than the 40K Imperium, thus being Patient 0 for the case of "you can combat Chaos with a different faith".		Let's also not even get into the topic of Lorgar being probably the first Primarch to actively combat Chaos cults, back on his own homeworld, even if he did it for different reasons than the 40K Imperium, thus being Patient 0 for the case of "you can combat Chaos with a different faith".

	TL;DR: Lorgar <s>took the Emperor's propaganda seriously, and was punished for it</s> is the example that if someone really wants to find excuses, he can always find them.		TL;DR: Lorgar <s>took the Emperor's propaganda seriously, and was punished for it</s> <s>is the example that if someone really wants to find excuses, he can always find them</s> is living proof that covering your eyes and ears and pretending that a problem doesn't exist isn't the way out.

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	{{Topquote\|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.\|<s>The dude himself.</s> [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens\|hence it's erroneously attributed to him]].}}		{{Topquote\|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.\|<s>The dude himself.</s> [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens\|hence it's erroneously attributed to him]].}}

	{{topquote\|All I ever wanted was the truth...\|First <s>lie</s> line of the [[Book Of Lorgar]]}}		{{topquote\|All I ever wanted was the truth...\|First <s>lie</s> line of the [[Book of Lorgar]]}}

	The human incarnation of 'Did Nothing Wrong'.		The human incarnation of 'Did Nothing Wrong'.

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	Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.		Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.

	During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, ~~Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar~~'~~s scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we~~ get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.		During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, we'll get to them later.

	Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)		Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)

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	Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.		Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.

	During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar's scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering ~~[[Lost Primarchs\|~~erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history]]. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.		During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar's scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.

	Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)		Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)

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	Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.		Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.

	During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus; Lorgar ~~had~~ little ~~friends or~~ support amongst his brothers. (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close ~~and he~~ would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be.) This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them.		During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar's scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering [[Lost Primarchs\|erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history]]. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.

	Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)		Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)

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	In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion's sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin' Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar's plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium's golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference\|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don't. He has also completed his new Chaos fan-fic lazily named the [[Book of Lorgar]] which is basically the Chaos version of the Divinitatus. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman\|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor's divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar's autograph....		In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion's sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin' Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar's plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium's golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference\|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don't. He has also completed his new Chaos fan-fic lazily named the [[Book of Lorgar]] which is basically the Chaos version of the Divinitatus. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman\|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor's divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar's autograph....

	Since the Heresy, Lorgar's notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia. Seriously, [[Magnus the Red\|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming "[[JUST AS PLANNED]]" at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette\|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]' shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail\|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly "Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done" quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege\|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman\|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won't get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus\|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he's entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it's boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during ''The First Heretic'', which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.		Since the Heresy, Lorgar's notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon and then undo) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia. Seriously, [[Magnus the Red\|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming "[[JUST AS PLANNED]]" at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette\|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]' shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail\|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly "Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done" quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege\|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman\|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won't get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus\|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he's entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it's boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during ''The First Heretic'', which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.

	Apparently he was actually working on some new daemon summoning techniques, which he taught Abbadon before the Thirteenth Black Crusade. Which on the whole... is pathetic, that's like something they should be doing on their off hours when not busy slaughtering Imperial worlds. Given that Abbadon's the only other big player on the Chaos side who's still devoted to toppling the Imperium in the name of Chaos Undivided, you'd think Lorgar would be beside him every step of the way. The prevailing theory is that he's busy <strike>Indulging Slaanesh's churchboy fantasies</strike> "contemplating the mysteries of Chaos". Although if you want to be logical, (if logic could be applied to chaos or 40k in general) him being the daemon prince of chaos undivided means that he must execute the will of chaos undivided, which is, incidentally, divided, and as such, he can't do shit. Or he, being essentially a spiritual entity, doesn’t need to be “physically” present to guide Abbadon.		Apparently he was actually working on some new daemon summoning techniques, which he taught Abbadon before the Thirteenth Black Crusade. Which on the whole... is pathetic, that's like something they should be doing on their off hours when not busy slaughtering Imperial worlds. Given that Abbadon's the only other big player on the Chaos side who's still devoted to toppling the Imperium in the name of Chaos Undivided, you'd think Lorgar would be beside him every step of the way. The prevailing theory is that he's busy <strike>Indulging Slaanesh's churchboy fantasies</strike> "contemplating the mysteries of Chaos". Although if you want to be logical, (if logic could be applied to chaos or 40k in general) him being the daemon prince of chaos undivided means that he must execute the will of chaos undivided, which is, incidentally, divided, and as such, he can't do shit. Or he, being essentially a spiritual entity, doesn’t need to be “physically” present to guide Abbadon.

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	{{Topquote\|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.\|<s>The dude himself.</s> [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens\|hence it's erroneously attributed to him]].}}		{{Topquote\|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.\|<s>The dude himself.</s> [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens\|hence it's erroneously attributed to him]].}}

	{{topquote\|All I ever wanted was the truth...\|First <s>lie</s> line of the Book Of Lorgar}}		{{topquote\|All I ever wanted was the truth...\|First <s>lie</s> line of the [[Book Of Lorgar]]}}

	The human incarnation of 'Did Nothing Wrong'.		The human incarnation of 'Did Nothing Wrong'.
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	So now he's the Daemon-Primarch of the [[Word Bearers]], the guys who make the rest of the Chaos Space Marines look like all around swell secular humanist types. They're kind of like Jehovah's Witnesses, except instead of knocking on your door and telling you about Jesus they knock down your door and ask you which end of a daemon summoning you want to be on. This tends to make Chaos' otherwise awful selling pitch seem oddly compelling. He also has a particular hatred for atheists, so he loathes his atheist daddy Emprah and the [[Tau\|weeaboo space communists]] more than he hates everything else.		So now he's the Daemon-Primarch of the [[Word Bearers]], the guys who make the rest of the Chaos Space Marines look like all around swell secular humanist types. They're kind of like Jehovah's Witnesses, except instead of knocking on your door and telling you about Jesus they knock down your door and ask you which end of a daemon summoning you want to be on. This tends to make Chaos' otherwise awful selling pitch seem oddly compelling. He also has a particular hatred for atheists, so he loathes his atheist daddy Emprah and the [[Tau\|weeaboo space communists]] more than he hates everything else.

	In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion's sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin' Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar's plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium's golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the Lectitio Divinitatus (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference\|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don't. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman\|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor's divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar's autograph....		In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion's sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin' Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar's plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium's golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference\|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don't. He has also completed his new Chaos fan-fic lazily named the [[Book of Lorgar]] which is basically the Chaos version of the Divinitatus. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman\|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor's divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar's autograph....

	Since the Heresy, Lorgar's notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia. Seriously, [[Magnus the Red\|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming "[[JUST AS PLANNED]]" at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette\|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]' shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail\|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly "Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done" quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege\|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman\|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won't get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus\|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he's entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it's boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during ''The First Heretic'', which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.		Since the Heresy, Lorgar's notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia. Seriously, [[Magnus the Red\|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming "[[JUST AS PLANNED]]" at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette\|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]' shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail\|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly "Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done" quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege\|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman\|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won't get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus\|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he's entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it's boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during ''The First Heretic'', which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.

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	Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.		Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.

	During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, ~~Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar~~'~~s scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we~~ get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.		During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, we'll get to them later.

	Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)		Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)

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	Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.		Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.

	During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar's scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering ~~[[Lost Primarchs\|~~erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history]]. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.		During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar's scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.

	Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)		Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)

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	Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.		Like the rest of the Primarchs, Lorgar was scattered through the Warp by the [[Chaos Gods]]. The infant landed on [[Colchis]], a world of excellence, beauty and most of all, faith. Lorgar was taken in by [[Kor Phaeron]], a former priest of the Covenant (Colchis' chief religious order) and a Chaos worshipper. As he grew, he was educated in philosophy and rhetoric and he was gifted with a charisma that greatly aided his role as a preacher, making him immensely popular with the Colchisian faithful. At first, he remained a staunch defender of the Faith, but his life changed due to his frequent visions of a new [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Messiah]] arriving into Colchis, clad in [[Pauldrons\|gleaming armour]], who rode on [[Imperial Navy\|clouds of iron]] as he led his [[Space Marines\|army of angels]] across the stars. Though Kor Phaeron had little patience for what he considered [[Heresy]], his own grudges with the Covenant meant that when they declared war on Lorgar and all his followers Kor Phaeron would aid his "son" (and continue to give lip service to the Emperor until the time was right). Six long years engulfed Colchis into Civil War, yet, due to his insane charisma convincing thousands upon thousands of faithful to worship the new Messiah, Lorgar won through [[Imperial Guard\|sheer numbers]]. By the time they were done, the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]] and [[Magnus the Red]] arrived on Colchis and everybody was absolutely ''ecstatic.'' Almost overnight Colchis became an extravagant world all in devotion to the Emperor. After about a month of celebrations, the now slightly annoyed Emperor appointed Lorgar head of the Imperial Heralds, which Lorgar renamed the Word Bearers.

	During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus; Lorgar ~~had~~ little ~~friends or~~ support amongst his brothers. (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close ~~and he~~ would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be.) This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them.		During the [[Great Crusade]], Lorgar loved the Emperor. Like ''really'' loved him, we are talking about ''yandere'' levels, so you bet where this is all going to be; in fact, he was the only Primarch to both consider him a god and actively spread said belief wherever he went. He loved the Emprah so much that he wrote the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] which was all about the divinity of the Emperor, and built huge Gothic cathedrals on every single world the Word Bearers conquered. And, ironically enough for a being genetically engineered to be a super-soldier and general, he disliked war. To say his generally preachy attitude didn't endear him to his brothers is an understatement. Except for Horus, Leman Russ and Magnus, Lorgar few friends and little support amongst his brothers (Guilliman respected the fact he rebuilt planets after conquering them but they were never really close. He would become something of a pal with Angron during the Heresy, as much as can be said that Angron could be. This is best demonstrated by the following example: at one point the Word Bearers had come to the help of the Iron Hands, so Ferrus Manus decided to craft a nice weapon for Lorgar as a thank-you gift. Lorgar was actually happy but as he watched Manus busy at his forge, he couldn't help to wonder ([[Fail\|aloud]]) whether his brother would be able to craft anything beside tools for war with his metal hands. Manus didn't really appreciate the comment and wondered back if Lorgar would able to craft anything at all! Ferrus still gave him ''Illuminarum'' and Lorgar would wield the huge Crozius Arcanum from then on, but the incident only broadened the wedge between them. As far as his few friends were concerned, Horus liked everyone and was liked in turn by everyone. Magnus appreciated Lorgar's scholarly inclinations, as he did with practically any of his more bookish brothers. Then we get to the outlier; how by Terra's titanic titmills Lorgar ever managed to make friends with ''Leman Russ'' of all people is truly a question for the ages. However it occurred, Russ apparently liked Lorgar enough to both back down from a serious argument with Magnus when Lorgar asked him to, ''and'' personally defend Lorgar when the Emperor was considering [[Lost Primarchs\|erasing Lorgar and his Legion from history]]. Considering that Russ was the Emperor's personal executioner, a confrontational ass at the best of times, and absolutely hated [[Magnus\|nerds]], Lorgar must have really made an impression on him.

	Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)		Unbeknownst to Lorgar, [[The Last Church\|the Emperor was a NAYtheist]], and was ''really'' disappointed towards his son but waited 100 years before telling by having the [[Ultramarines\|Smurfs]] destroy Lorgar's greatest masterpiece city, Monarchia, like any good bad daddy would have done it. It's like he was begging Lorgar to fall to Chaos. Lorgar's religiosity threatened to undermine his top-secret project to starve Chaos of any kind of worship. He made Lorgar stop his god worship in a very good-daddy kind of way: He then used his [[Psyker]] powers to [[Troll\|force Lorgar and 100 thousand of his legion to kneel]] before [[That guy\|the Emperor]], [[Roboute Guilliman]], and [[Malcador\|Malcador the Sigilite]]. Destroying an entire city is one thing, but being forced to kneel down before Great Grandpa Smurf was of such humiliation that it would inflict clinically incurable depression into anyone... Which is totally understandable as the Emprah had waited a whole century to tell that he was not at all into this being worshipped as a god thing Lorgar kept preaching about all the time, only to have the Ultramarines destroy the city Lorgar considered one of his greatest achievements to make his point - again - this was 100 years after Lorgar's discovery by big E, and Lorgar rightfully pointed out to Magnus that the Emprah had spent weeks on Colchis following his arrival and had witnessed that people were clearly worshipping him as a God, yet had said nothing then, only to tell Lorgar a century later that he was a failure and should shape up (see "The First Heretic"). (Perhaps Emperor was playing to their tunes to sweet-talk them into joining his Imperium.)

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	{{Topquote\|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.\|<s>The dude himself.</s> [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens\|hence it's erroneously attributed to him]].}}		{{Topquote\|The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.\|<s>The dude himself.</s> [[Argel Tal]], when speaking about how it feels like to be [[Possessed]]. Lorgar liked the sentence and jotted it down, [[Blood Ravens\|hence it's erroneously attributed to him]].}}

	{{topquote\|All I ever wanted was the truth...\|First <s>lie</s> line of the Book Of Lorgar}}		{{topquote\|All I ever wanted was the truth...\|First <s>lie</s> line of the [[Book Of Lorgar]]}}

	The human incarnation of 'Did Nothing Wrong'.		The human incarnation of 'Did Nothing Wrong'.
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	So now he's the Daemon-Primarch of the [[Word Bearers]], the guys who make the rest of the Chaos Space Marines look like all around swell secular humanist types. They're kind of like Jehovah's Witnesses, except instead of knocking on your door and telling you about Jesus they knock down your door and ask you which end of a daemon summoning you want to be on. This tends to make Chaos' otherwise awful selling pitch seem oddly compelling. He also has a particular hatred for atheists, so he loathes his atheist daddy Emprah and the [[Tau\|weeaboo space communists]] more than he hates everything else.		So now he's the Daemon-Primarch of the [[Word Bearers]], the guys who make the rest of the Chaos Space Marines look like all around swell secular humanist types. They're kind of like Jehovah's Witnesses, except instead of knocking on your door and telling you about Jesus they knock down your door and ask you which end of a daemon summoning you want to be on. This tends to make Chaos' otherwise awful selling pitch seem oddly compelling. He also has a particular hatred for atheists, so he loathes his atheist daddy Emprah and the [[Tau\|weeaboo space communists]] more than he hates everything else.

	In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion's sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin' Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar's plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium's golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the Lectitio Divinitatus (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference\|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don't. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman\|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor's divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar's autograph....		In a supreme twist of irony, the [[Ecclesiarchy]] of the Imperium (which is the primary target for the Word Bearers during conquest) derives most if not all of their religious texts from Lorgar. That Bible they administer to citizens daily? The prayers quadrillions of soldiers and civilians utter daily in an effort to believe? That devotion to the Emperor? All fostered and nurtured by Lorgar. All brought about by him and his Legion's sheer devotion. And all that shit works (Grey Knights are protected from Daemons by their faith while the latter fear holy water blessed by the Ecclesiarchy, Sisters of Battle pull out miracles and have (a) freakin' Living Saint(s) resurrected by the Emperor, etc), leading to countless jokes about it being Lorgar's plan all along. In short, Lorgar is responsible for both the Heresy that marked the end of the Imperium's golden age, and the only thing that would save Humanity in its long evolution to a fully psychic race. That being said, Lorgar is actually so ashamed of the [[Lectitio Divinitatus]] (the primary holy book of the Imperium he wrote) that bringing it up is a surefire way to have your body and soul obliterated in such horrific ways [[anal circumference\|that no words exist in the myriad tongues of the universe to fully encompass the unholy rape you would receive]]. Seriously, just... don't. He has also completed his new Chaos fan-fic lazily named the [[Book of Lorgar]] which is basically the Chaos version of the Divinitatus. Now just imagine his face when he hears that [[Roboute_Guilliman\|Gorillaman]] himself is slowly becoming convinced of the Emperor's divinity and is reading a copy of the Lectitio Divinitatus with Lorgar's autograph....

	Since the Heresy, Lorgar's notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia. Seriously, [[Magnus the Red\|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming "[[JUST AS PLANNED]]" at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette\|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]' shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail\|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly "Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done" quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege\|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman\|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won't get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus\|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he's entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it's boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during ''The First Heretic'', which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.		Since the Heresy, Lorgar's notable achievements consist of becoming a [[Daemon Prince]] of [[Chaos Undivided]] (and, yes, that is technically possible, and it was also the standard before GW decided to retcon) before doing sweet fuck all for several millennia. Seriously, [[Magnus the Red\|Magnus]] might have spent most of the last ten thousand years sitting in his tower screaming "[[JUST AS PLANNED]]" at the top of his lungs whenever he pours [[Daemonette\|milk]] over his daemon cereal but at least he actually got off his red ass and led the [[Thousand Sons]] to wreck the [[Space Wolves]]' shit on their own home planet. ([[Fail\|Twice.]]) Lorgar, though? The lazy fuckwit has just been holed up on Sicarus meditating and traversing the warp, secretly "Crying and weeping in guilt for what he has done" quote unquote by our [[Spiritual Liege\|spiritual liege]] himself, [[Roboute Guilliman\|Rawbutt Derpyman]]. Congratulations, [[Chaos Gods]], you have created the Lovecraftian equivalent of that unemployed asshole friend who won't get off your couch and who is secretly [[Cyrus\|emo]]. If you believe Magnus, Lorgar has already achieved what the Chaos Gods wanted by setting up this stalemate between Chaos and the Imperium so he's entitled to some well-earned ruminating on scripture, but fuck that because it's boring. Also because it runs totally counter to the beliefs that Lorgar develops during ''The First Heretic'', which are all about mankind embracing Chaos and everyone becoming willingly possessed like his Gal Vorbak.