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	* Earlier SEP v1 and SEP v2 upgrades also present, namely infantry-tank telephone, ERA plating, commander 50cal being remotely controlled and an optional second fifty call remotely controlled placed over the barrel.		* Earlier SEP v1 and SEP v2 upgrades also present, namely infantry-tank telephone, ERA plating, commander 50cal being remotely controlled and an optional second fifty call remotely controlled placed over the barrel.

	The Abrams is a terrifyingly effective battering ram as well. Mostly due to its absurd speed and weight. And how does it achieve that speed? Why with its engine of course. Specifically its gas turbine engine. Seeing Sweden play around with turbines in the Strv-103 and hearing rumors that Russia was doing the same with the T-80, America got a little envious. The Strv-103 weighs 40 tons with a 300 HP ~~Boeing~~ turbine designed for drones. The M1 weighs 60 tons and has a '''1500''' HP ~~Lyncoming (now produced by Honeywell)~~ which was also marketed for heavy cargo helicopters. For context, this is the sort of horsepower you'd expect to see on a small freight train. The tradeoff is that its a logistics nightmare, measuring its fuel consumption in gallons per mile and can only drive about 6 hours before needing to refuel. This is mitigated somewhat by two things. First one is that the Abrams is able to use just about any type of fuel available. Jet fuel is standard issue but it can also take gasoline, diesel and marine diesel.(yes, that means fuel for sea vessels.) All very common among the military forces of NATO. The second is that the M1 Abrams is being fielded by a nation that has 753.5 '''billion''' in defense spending, if the M1 could burn Pennies for fuel it would barely make a dent in that budget.		The Abrams is a terrifyingly effective battering ram as well. Mostly due to its absurd speed and weight. And how does it achieve that speed? Why with its engine of course. Specifically its gas turbine engine. Seeing Sweden play around with turbines in the Strv-103 and hearing rumors that Russia was doing the same with the T-80, America got a little envious. The Strv-103 weighs 40 tons with a 300 HP turbine designed for drones. The M1 weighs 60 tons and has a '''1500''' HP turbine which was also marketed for heavy cargo helicopters. For context, this is the sort of horsepower you'd expect to see on a small freight train. The tradeoff is that its a logistics nightmare, measuring its fuel consumption in gallons per mile and can only drive about 6 hours before needing to refuel. This is mitigated somewhat by two things. First one is that the Abrams is able to use just about any type of fuel available. Jet fuel is standard issue but it can also take gasoline, diesel and marine diesel.(yes, that means fuel for sea vessels.) All very common among the military forces of NATO. The second is that the M1 Abrams is being fielded by a nation that has 753.5 '''billion''' in defense spending, if the M1 could burn Pennies for fuel it would barely make a dent in that budget.

	A M1A3 variant is currently in development to design a lighter tank that may one day be more air transportable, as the M1A2's fat ass weighs in at 68 tons (the upgrade to fibre cabling alone shaved 2 tons!) meaning something like the C-5 Galaxy, one of the largest planes in the world, can only take off with two on board rather than the three that can physically fit in the cargo hold. This will be difficult as apparently politics make upgrades more affordable than new-ish tanks. Eventually, though, the mainframe of the tank will wear out and new ones will have to be manufactured. This may take some time, given that the Marines have ditched the Abrams; on the assumption the Marines play an amphibious game of Shoot and Scoot against aircraft and warships with missile trucks. So all those tanks have gone to the Army,[[derp\| due to the USMC brass being idiots that don't realize China has their own light Tanks for island hopping.]] While the Army has just adopted their own light tank the Griffin (based on the ASCOD). [[Herp\|So far none of the Marine brass showing any interest despite both of these known facts.]] Unless the USMC is willing to add the Stryker Armored Gun Systems' cannon to their new Amphibious Combat Vehicle or strap on guided missiles on to them, it'll leave them with just a 20 mm autocannon and 40 mm mortars for direct engagements.		A M1A3 variant is currently in development to design a lighter tank that may one day be more air transportable, as the M1A2's fat ass weighs in at 68 tons (the upgrade to fibre cabling alone shaved 2 tons!) meaning something like the C-5 Galaxy, one of the largest planes in the world, can only take off with two on board rather than the three that can physically fit in the cargo hold. This will be difficult as apparently politics make upgrades more affordable than new-ish tanks. Eventually, though, the mainframe of the tank will wear out and new ones will have to be manufactured. This may take some time, given that the Marines have ditched the Abrams; on the assumption the Marines play an amphibious game of Shoot and Scoot against aircraft and warships with missile trucks. So all those tanks have gone to the Army,[[derp\| due to the USMC brass being idiots that don't realize China has their own light Tanks for island hopping.]] While the Army has just adopted their own light tank the Griffin (based on the ASCOD). [[Herp\|So far none of the Marine brass showing any interest despite both of these known facts.]] Unless the USMC is willing to add the Stryker Armored Gun Systems' cannon to their new Amphibious Combat Vehicle or strap on guided missiles on to them, it'll leave them with just a 20 mm autocannon and 40 mm mortars for direct engagements.

1d4chan>Flutist: /* M1A1 */ I've never seen a game end so quickly

2023-05-07T16:35:57Z

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	If for some reason you looked at the M1A1 and thought that it simply wasn't kick ass enough, or if you laugh in the face of point inefficiency the M1A1HC is what you need. It's got the same weapons and therefore the same unit crushing potential as its base model counterpart. Where it differs is that the front armor goes up to a damn near impervious 21 (<s>only matched by the ROMOR package [[Challenger 1]] at time of writing</s> Beaten by the Bundeswehr's own Leopard 2A5 at FA22 <s>fukken krauts</s>) and the side armor goes up to an impressive 11. That's right, you can flat out ignore most autocannons as they cannon penetrate you from any angle (Bad pun). The cost? 18 points per tank. A 72 fucking point 4 tank platoon ?!?! <s>Jesus Fucking Christ!!!</s> ''World's largest defense budget, baby!''		If for some reason you looked at the M1A1 and thought that it simply wasn't kick ass enough, or if you laugh in the face of point inefficiency the M1A1HC is what you need. It's got the same weapons and therefore the same unit crushing potential as its base model counterpart. Where it differs is that the front armor goes up to a damn near impervious 21 (<s>only matched by the ROMOR package [[Challenger 1]] at time of writing</s> Beaten by the Bundeswehr's own Leopard 2A5 at FA22 <s>fukken krauts</s>) and the side armor goes up to an impressive 11. That's right, you can flat out ignore most autocannons as they cannon penetrate you from any angle (Bad pun). The cost? 18 points per tank. A 72 fucking point 4 tank platoon ?!?! <s>Jesus Fucking Christ!!!</s> ''World's largest defense budget, baby!''

	Thanks to being the most expensive tanks in the game, the chances that you will see formations of these things in games of less than 200 or so points is slim to none, but they still have a use for both the competitive player and the casual pickup gamer alike! The M1A1 comes integral to any US Mech infantry company, making it a powerful resource to support your formation, especially since US mech infantry formations tend to play defensive and thus need to figure out reserves. The Abrams fills this role nicely, having the speed and firepower to make an impact the moment it enters the board, and the points cost to take up the entirety of your reserve pool in a single unit. The synergy with infantry formations in particular is strong, since US Mech infantry can bring a shitload of ATGMs to help deal with BMP and tank swarms, as well as the general durability of infantry letting them hold the line while waiting for your tanks to arrive like the Rohirrim at Pelennor Fields or body blocking enemy tank swarms that want to flank your Abrams. If you play smart, focusing your fire on eliminating one tank company at a time and opening up the maneuver space for your tanks with smoke and your superior tactical speed, the Warsaw Pact tank swarms can be dissected in detail, all while your Abrams are perfectly safe behind their heavy armor and screening infantry, carving swathes in the Red Horde. If you play dumb, your gorgeous 72 point tank platoon is gonna go up in capitalist smoke before you can say "Damn Commie!"		Thanks to being the most expensive tanks in the game, the chances that you will see formations of these things in games of less than 200 or so points is slim to none, but they still have a use for both the competitive player and the casual pickup gamer alike! The M1A1 comes integral to any US Mech infantry company, making it a powerful resource to support your formation, especially since US mech infantry formations tend to play defensive and thus need to figure out reserves. The Abrams fills this role nicely, having the speed and firepower to make an impact the moment it enters the board, and the points cost to take up the entirety of your reserve pool in a single unit. The synergy with infantry formations in particular is strong, since US Mech infantry can bring a shitload of ATGMs to help deal with BMP and tank swarms, as well as the general durability of infantry letting them hold the line while waiting for your tanks to arrive like the Rohirrim at Pelennor Fields or body blocking enemy tank swarms that want to flank your Abrams. If you play smart, focusing your fire on eliminating one tank company at a time and opening up the maneuver space for your tanks with smoke and your superior tactical speed, the Warsaw Pact tank swarms can be dissected in detail, all while your Abrams are perfectly safe behind their heavy armor and screening infantry, carving swathes in the Red Horde. If you play dumb, your gorgeous 72 point tank platoon is gonna go up in capitalist smoke before you can say "Damn Commie!" And always, ''always'' take AA, because swarms of [[MI-24 Hind\|Hinds]] exist, and SIX of them with AT-9s (AT24, Chobham will do jack shit) cost exactly 18 points, the same as ONE M1A1HC.

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	Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.		Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.

	These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment . . . and if there performance in the Gulf War's is anything to go by they will be more than ready given some of the junk the Russian are deploying. The real question is: can Ukraine keep those ~~jet~~ engines fed?		These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment . . . and if there performance in the Gulf War's is anything to go by they will be more than ready given some of the junk the Russian are deploying. The real question is: can Ukraine keep those turbine engines fed? (Considering they are multi-fuel, probably so)

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	Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.		Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.

	These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment . . . and if there performance in the Gulf War's is anything to go by they will be more ~~then~~ ready given some of the ~~Junk~~ the Russian's are deploying. The real question is: can Ukraine keep those jet ~~engine's~~ fed?		These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment . . . and if there performance in the Gulf War's is anything to go by they will be more than ready given some of the junk the Russian are deploying. The real question is: can Ukraine keep those jet engines fed?

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	Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.		Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.

	These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment.		These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment . . . and if there performance in the Gulf War's is anything to go by they will be more then ready given some of the Junk the Russian's are deploying. The real question is: can Ukraine keep those jet engine's fed?

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	[[File:DA-ST-88-04607.jpeg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|~~Heard ya talkin' bout freedom!~~]]		[[File:DA-ST-88-04607.jpeg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Nice Invasion you got there. . .be a shame if something were to happen to it.]]
	In the 1960s the US Army began to search for a replacement for the [[M60 Patton]]. In this effort, they joined forces with West Germany in development of the MBT-70, an innovative design which featured the entire crew situated in the Turret and sporting a 152mm Gun/missile launcher similar to that of the [[M551 Sheridan]]. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on who you ask) the MBT-70 Program was canceled before the vehicle was ready for production due to excessive costs. It was not a total failure, however, as the West Germans took the lessons learned from the project and created the [[Leopard 2]] and the Americans took their data and created the M1 Abrams.		In the 1960s the US Army began to search for a replacement for the [[M60 Patton]]. In this effort, they joined forces with West Germany in development of the MBT-70, an innovative design which featured the entire crew situated in the Turret and sporting a 152mm Gun/missile launcher similar to that of the [[M551 Sheridan]]. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on who you ask) the MBT-70 Program was canceled before the vehicle was ready for production due to excessive costs. It was not a total failure, however, as the West Germans took the lessons learned from the project and created the [[Leopard 2]] and the Americans took their data and created the M1 Abrams.

1d4chan>Lord Of The Lemmings: /* IRL */

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	Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.		Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.

	These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]].		These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]. Washington didn't want the Germans to outdo them in the amount of weapons sent to Ukraine, so they approved Abrams deployment. Time to see of they hold up as well as they were designed to be against Soviet equipment.

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	Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.		Recently, General Dynamics just teased a technological demonstrator call Abrams-X. With a silent hybrid drive that reduces fuel consumption to 50%, a 30 mm autocannon turret for anti aircraft defense, an autoloader, APS systems integrated with reactive armor, and networking capabilities capable of guiding self-launched suicide drones, the company claims it can serve as an interim bridge between the SEPv3 and 4 variants and the Abram’s successor once the DLP component of the NGCV program goes online in the next decade or so. That’s assuming the US Army or a foreign buyer expresses any interest at all.

	These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]]~~. [[Tiger\|The weight on the Abrams is heavier than Soviet Bridge specs really were built for]], so stay tuned for how well that will go for them~~.		These tanks are now being sent to Ukraine along with the [[Leopard 2]] and the [[Challenger 1\|Challenger 2]].

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