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	Ford Aerospace soon came back with the prototype for the M247. Their design was armed with the iconic 40mm Bofors AA gun linked to a search and targeting system derived from the radar equipment ganked from mothballed F-4 Phantom jets. After beating out an (arguably superior i.e its tracking Radar was copied from the Phalanx CIWS) design from General Dynamics. The M247 was approved for production and dubbed the "Sergeant York" after Alvin York, a hero of the Great War.		Ford Aerospace soon came back with the prototype for the M247. Their design was armed with the iconic 40mm Bofors AA gun linked to a search and targeting system derived from the radar equipment ganked from mothballed F-4 Phantom jets. After beating out an (arguably superior i.e its tracking Radar was copied from the Phalanx CIWS) design from General Dynamics. The M247 was approved for production and dubbed the "Sergeant York" after Alvin York, a hero of the Great War.

	~~Here~~'s ~~where~~ it ~~gets interesting~~. ~~The~~ Army decided that it was high time to show off their shiny new toy and put together a demonstration in 1982, inviting VIPs, high ranking brass and the press to come and see. With everybody expectantly waiting, a target drone was launched and the radar was activated. [[Machine Spirit\|Immediately the M247 swung its turret toward the grand stand, confirmed target lock, and cheerfully requested permission to fire.]]		Now you will note that every single individual part of this. . .thing was successful. AA guns on tank chassis are well understood, Bofors 40mm's are incredible guns, hell Lithuania gave Ukraine a few batteries to deal with drones, the radar in theory was proven in being able to target aircraft successfully. On paper this should be good machine. In practice. . .it was a disaster. See the Army decided that it was high time to show off their shiny new toy and put together a demonstration in 1982, inviting VIPs, high ranking brass and the press to come and see. With everybody expectantly waiting, a target drone was launched and the radar was activated. [[Machine Spirit\|Immediately the M247 swung its turret toward the grand stand, confirmed target lock, and cheerfully requested permission to fire.]]

	After the resulting stampede of influential persons trying to get out of the line of fire was calmed down, it was determined that a glitch in the radar system was responsible for the dangerous error. A radar glitch that was caused, according to the representatives of Ford Aerospace, by the M247 being washed prior to the demonstration, to which a member of the press responded, "Don't they know that it tends to rain in Europe?"		After the resulting stampede of influential persons trying to get out of the line of fire was calmed down, it was determined that a glitch in the radar system was responsible for the dangerous error. A radar glitch that was caused, according to the representatives of Ford Aerospace, by the M247 being washed prior to the demonstration, to which a member of the press responded, "Don't they know that it tends to rain in Europe?"

	The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky--that was what it had been designed for in the first place, after all--it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant York's own gun barrels when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. It was noted at the time that even bolting on the primitive and obsolete range-only radar and fire control system from the VADS it was supposed to replace would have been an enormous improvement. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York. The lingering bad taste of this experience persists to this day. Almost forty years later there's still not a replacement for the VADS. No one wants to touch it.		The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky--that was what it had been designed for in the first place, after all--it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant York's own gun barrels when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. It was noted at the time that even bolting on the primitive and obsolete range-only radar and fire control system from the VADS it was supposed to replace would have been an enormous improvement. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York. The lingering bad taste of this experience persists to this day. Almost forty years later there's still not a replacement for the VADS. No one wants to touch it. Partially out of sticker shock and partially because the US in that time has spent so much on there airforce that there more likely to call there own planes to deal with air combatants then need to turn to a SPAAG. In the gulf war alone almost three '''thousand''' aircraft were involved on the coalition side alone. There just is no pressing doctrional need in the US style of war that requires something like the York, Though with the advent of drone warfare Ukraine is showing the SPAAG's are one of the few cost effect responses to a drone buzzing over.

	Presumably the reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match.		Presumably the reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match.

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	[[File:M247 Sergent York.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Its as derpy as it looks]]		[[File:M247 Sergent York.jpg\|300px\|right\|thumb\|Its as derpy as it looks]]
	{{Topquote\|I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.\|Thomas A. Edison}}		{{Topquote\|I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.\|Thomas A. Edison}}

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	The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky--that was what it had been designed for in the first place, after all--it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant York's own gun barrels when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. It was noted at the time that even bolting on the primitive and obsolete range-only radar and fire control system from the VADS it was supposed to replace would have been an enormous improvement. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York. The lingering bad taste of this experience persists to this day. Almost forty years later there's still not a replacement for the VADS. No one wants to touch it.		The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky--that was what it had been designed for in the first place, after all--it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant York's own gun barrels when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. It was noted at the time that even bolting on the primitive and obsolete range-only radar and fire control system from the VADS it was supposed to replace would have been an enormous improvement. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York. The lingering bad taste of this experience persists to this day. Almost forty years later there's still not a replacement for the VADS. No one wants to touch it.

	Presumably the reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match. ~~Hence why~~ the York appears.		Presumably the reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match.

			Given that the Sergeant York does not suffer from crippling penalties to reflect its real-life Sears catalogue of unresolved problems at the time of cancellation, a different radar system (maybe one actually designed for use on the ground?) was found or devised for use on the M247, and thus, it is one of "Team Yankee's" main alternate history features. We play this game in a world where the Sergeant York can actually do its job- hence why it appears.

	{{US Forces in Team Yankee}}		{{US Forces in Team Yankee}}

	[[Category:Vehicles]]		[[Category:Vehicles]]

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	==In Team Yankee==		==In Team Yankee==
	[[File:M247 Sergent York Stat Card.jpg\|300px\|left\|thumb\|The Stats (from Bizzaro world)]]		[[File:M247 Sergent York Stat Card.jpg\|300px\|left\|thumb\|The Stats (from Bizzaro world)]]
	In the Team Yankee Universe, apparently the M247 didn't turn out to be a dismal failure and in fact was well on its way to replacing the M163.		In the Team Yankee Universe, apparently the M247 didn't turn out to be a dismal failure and in fact was well on its way to replacing the M163. The U.S. Army gets this radar-controlled, twin-Bofors-guns-wielding beast all to itself, for whatever that's worth, so the Marines- as usual- will have to make do with something else.

	The M247 has the Dedicated AA & Radar Special rules, which means that it can use its full rate of fire when targeting aircraft and ignores the +1 to hit penalty when shooting at Aircraft beyond 16 inches.		The M247 has the Dedicated AA & Radar Special rules, which means that it can use its full rate of fire when targeting aircraft and ignores the +1 to hit penalty when shooting at Aircraft beyond 16 inches. The complicated radar-based fire control system the Sergeant York mounted is quite capable and effectively grants the U.S. Army a direct answer to the ZSU-23-4 "Shilka", giving us a glimpse of what might have been had anything in the M247's main armament, you know, actually worked.

	In Addition, the Sergeant York is a little more tailored to the combat environment of Team Yankee than the other American SPAAG, the M163 VADS. See in Team Yankee, (And in reality often enough) SPAAGs tend to get pressed into combat as armoured fighting vehicles, a role the M247 is slightly better equipped to deal with then either the M163 or even it's nearest commie-competition the [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]]. It may not be the Gepard you were hoping for, just a decent SPAAG.		In Addition, the Sergeant York is a little more tailored to the combat environment of Team Yankee than the other American SPAAG, the M163 VADS. See in Team Yankee, (And in reality often enough) SPAAGs tend to get pressed into combat as armoured fighting vehicles, a role the M247 is slightly better equipped to deal with then either the M163 or even it's nearest commie-competition the [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]]. It may not be the Gepard you were hoping for, just a decent SPAAG.

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	Where to start with this thing?		Where to start with this thing?

	The M247 Sergeant York was developed by Ford Aerospace (A company that is better known for making cars rather than AA platforms, this story doesn't get much better think of it as a weaponized Pinto) in response to a US Army request for a Self Propelled AA gun that could keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley at cruising speed. However, because someone in Procurement had a bug up his ass about reusing stuff that had been sitting in the spares bin, this new SPAAG had to be mounted on a M48 tank Chassis and use as many off the shelf parts as possible to keep R&D costs low. ~~M48 tank chassis.~~ Bofors 40mm autocannon ~~bought~~ by the Navy during WWII then pulled from ships that had been mothballed for three decades, and more of the same pulled out of ancient M42 "Duster" self-propelled AA guns, ~~but~~ with shiny new, and very expensive, proximity fuzed ammunition using preformed tungsten shrapnel for fragmentation. Radar? Oh, that's the best part. They wanted to pull the ancient--even then--Westinghouse AN-APQ79 radars out of the noses of mothballed F4 Phantoms rusting in the desert at Davis-Monthan AFB, and somehow they were going to make this radar designed as a target tracking and missile illumination radar for jet fighters, somehow, by magic or wishful thinking or unicorn farts, or something, SOMEHOW they were going to bolt it onto a self-propelled antiaircraft gun and use it as a gun-laying radar, despite it not having been designed with that functionality.		The M247 Sergeant York was developed by Ford Aerospace (A company that is better known for making cars rather than AA platforms, this story doesn't get much better think of it as a weaponized Pinto) in response to a US Army request for a Self Propelled AA gun that could keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley at cruising speed. However, because someone in Procurement had a bug up his ass about reusing stuff that had been sitting in the spares bin, this new SPAAG had to be mounted on a M48 tank Chassis and use as many off the shelf parts as possible to keep R&D costs low. The ideal weapon for this practically kitbashed platform was determined to be the Bofors 40mm autocannon made famous by the Navy during WWII then pulled from ships that had been mothballed for three decades, and a couple more of the same pulled out of ancient M42 "Duster" self-propelled AA guns. To turn this relic into a viable weapon on the modern battlefield, it would be equipped with a shiny new (and very expensive) proximity fuzed ammunition using preformed tungsten shrapnel for fragmentation. Radar? Oh, that's the best part. They wanted to pull the ancient--even then--Westinghouse AN-APQ79 radars out of the noses of mothballed F4 Phantoms rusting in the desert at Davis-Monthan AFB, and somehow they were going to make this radar designed as a target tracking and missile illumination radar for jet fighters, somehow, by magic or wishful thinking or unicorn farts, or something, SOMEHOW they were going to bolt it onto a self-propelled antiaircraft gun and use it as a gun-laying radar, despite it not having been designed with that functionality.

	The Army was particularly concerned about the threat of Anti Tank missile equipped enemy helicopters using "Pop-Up" tactics, where a helicopter hides behind terrain features to conceal it from AA fire, then pops up for just long enough to loose a missile, then ducks back into relative safety. The SPAAG the army was at the time using, the [[M163 VADS]], could not pick up nor engage a helicopter before a missile was inbound, a problem the soviets definitely were not having with their [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]].		The Army was particularly concerned about the threat of Anti Tank missile equipped enemy helicopters using "Pop-Up" tactics, where a helicopter hides behind terrain features to conceal it from AA fire, then pops up for just long enough to loose a missile, then ducks back into relative safety. The SPAAG the army was at the time using, the [[M163 VADS]], could not pick up nor engage a helicopter before a missile was inbound, a problem the soviets definitely were not having with their [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]].

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	Where to start with this thing?		Where to start with this thing?

	The M247 Sergeant York was developed by Ford Aerospace (A company that is better known for making cars rather than AA platforms, this story doesn't get much better think of it as a weaponized Pinto) in response to a US Army request for a Self Propelled AA gun that could keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley at cruising speed. However, this new SPAAG had to be mounted on a M48 Chassis and use as many off the shelf parts as possible to keep R&D costs low. M48 tank chassis. Bofors 40mm autocannon bought by the Navy during WWII then pulled from ships that had been mothballed for three decades, and more of the same pulled out of ancient M42 "Duster" self-propelled AA guns, but with shiny new, and very expensive, proximity fuzed ammunition using preformed tungsten shrapnel for fragmentation. Radar? Oh, that's the best part. They wanted to pull the ancient--even then--Westinghouse AN-APQ79 radars out of the noses of mothballed F4 Phantoms rusting in the desert at Davis-Monthan AFB, and somehow they were going to make this radar designed as a target tracking and missile illumination radar for jet fighters, somehow, by magic or wishful thinking or unicorn farts, or something, SOMEHOW they were going to bolt it onto a self-propelled antiaircraft gun and use it as a gun-laying radar, despite it not having been designed with that functionality.		The M247 Sergeant York was developed by Ford Aerospace (A company that is better known for making cars rather than AA platforms, this story doesn't get much better think of it as a weaponized Pinto) in response to a US Army request for a Self Propelled AA gun that could keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley at cruising speed. However, because someone in Procurement had a bug up his ass about reusing stuff that had been sitting in the spares bin, this new SPAAG had to be mounted on a M48 tank Chassis and use as many off the shelf parts as possible to keep R&D costs low. M48 tank chassis. Bofors 40mm autocannon bought by the Navy during WWII then pulled from ships that had been mothballed for three decades, and more of the same pulled out of ancient M42 "Duster" self-propelled AA guns, but with shiny new, and very expensive, proximity fuzed ammunition using preformed tungsten shrapnel for fragmentation. Radar? Oh, that's the best part. They wanted to pull the ancient--even then--Westinghouse AN-APQ79 radars out of the noses of mothballed F4 Phantoms rusting in the desert at Davis-Monthan AFB, and somehow they were going to make this radar designed as a target tracking and missile illumination radar for jet fighters, somehow, by magic or wishful thinking or unicorn farts, or something, SOMEHOW they were going to bolt it onto a self-propelled antiaircraft gun and use it as a gun-laying radar, despite it not having been designed with that functionality.

	The Army was particularly concerned about the threat of Anti Tank missile equipped enemy helicopters using "Pop-Up" tactics, where a helicopter hides behind terrain features to conceal it from AA fire, then pops up for just long enough to loose a missile, then ducks back into relative safety. The SPAAG the army was at the time using, the [[M163 VADS]], could not pick up nor engage a helicopter before a missile was inbound, a problem the soviets definitely were not having with their [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]].		The Army was particularly concerned about the threat of Anti Tank missile equipped enemy helicopters using "Pop-Up" tactics, where a helicopter hides behind terrain features to conceal it from AA fire, then pops up for just long enough to loose a missile, then ducks back into relative safety. The SPAAG the army was at the time using, the [[M163 VADS]], could not pick up nor engage a helicopter before a missile was inbound, a problem the soviets definitely were not having with their [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]].

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	Where to start with this thing?		Where to start with this thing?

	The M247 Sergeant York was developed by Ford Aerospace (A company that is better known for making cars rather than AA platforms, this story doesn't get much better think of it as a weaponized Pinto) in response to a US Army request for a Self Propelled AA gun that could keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley at cruising speed. However, this new SPAAG had to be mounted on a M48 Chassis and use as many off the shelf parts as possible to keep R&D costs low.		The M247 Sergeant York was developed by Ford Aerospace (A company that is better known for making cars rather than AA platforms, this story doesn't get much better think of it as a weaponized Pinto) in response to a US Army request for a Self Propelled AA gun that could keep up with the M1 Abrams and M2 Bradley at cruising speed. However, this new SPAAG had to be mounted on a M48 Chassis and use as many off the shelf parts as possible to keep R&D costs low. M48 tank chassis. Bofors 40mm autocannon bought by the Navy during WWII then pulled from ships that had been mothballed for three decades, and more of the same pulled out of ancient M42 "Duster" self-propelled AA guns, but with shiny new, and very expensive, proximity fuzed ammunition using preformed tungsten shrapnel for fragmentation. Radar? Oh, that's the best part. They wanted to pull the ancient--even then--Westinghouse AN-APQ79 radars out of the noses of mothballed F4 Phantoms rusting in the desert at Davis-Monthan AFB, and somehow they were going to make this radar designed as a target tracking and missile illumination radar for jet fighters, somehow, by magic or wishful thinking or unicorn farts, or something, SOMEHOW they were going to bolt it onto a self-propelled antiaircraft gun and use it as a gun-laying radar, despite it not having been designed with that functionality.

	The Army was particularly concerned about the threat of Anti Tank missile equipped enemy helicopters using "Pop-Up" tactics, where a helicopter hides behind terrain features to conceal it from AA fire, then pops up for just long enough to loose a missile, then ducks back into relative safety. The SPAAG the army was at the time using, the [[M163 VADS]], could not pick up nor engage a helicopter before a missile was inbound, a problem the soviets definitely were not having with their [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]].		The Army was particularly concerned about the threat of Anti Tank missile equipped enemy helicopters using "Pop-Up" tactics, where a helicopter hides behind terrain features to conceal it from AA fire, then pops up for just long enough to loose a missile, then ducks back into relative safety. The SPAAG the army was at the time using, the [[M163 VADS]], could not pick up nor engage a helicopter before a missile was inbound, a problem the soviets definitely were not having with their [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]].

	Ford Aerospace soon came back with the prototype for the M247. Their design was armed with the iconic 40mm Bofors AA gun linked to a search and targeting system derived from the radar equipment ~~mounted on the~~ F-~~16 Falcon~~. After beating out an (arguably superior i.e its tracking Radar was copied from the Phalanx CIWS) design from General Dynamics. The M247 was approved for production and dubbed the "Sergeant York" after Alvin York, a hero of the Great War.		Ford Aerospace soon came back with the prototype for the M247. Their design was armed with the iconic 40mm Bofors AA gun linked to a search and targeting system derived from the radar equipment ganked from mothballed F-4 Phantom jets. After beating out an (arguably superior i.e its tracking Radar was copied from the Phalanx CIWS) design from General Dynamics. The M247 was approved for production and dubbed the "Sergeant York" after Alvin York, a hero of the Great War.

	Here's where it gets interesting. The Army decided that it was high time to show off their shiny new toy and put together a demonstration in 1982, inviting VIPs, high ranking brass and the press to come and see. With everybody expectantly waiting, a target drone was launched and the radar was activated. [[Machine Spirit\|Immediately the M247 swung its turret toward the grand stand, confirmed target lock, and cheerfully requested permission to fire.]]		Here's where it gets interesting. The Army decided that it was high time to show off their shiny new toy and put together a demonstration in 1982, inviting VIPs, high ranking brass and the press to come and see. With everybody expectantly waiting, a target drone was launched and the radar was activated. [[Machine Spirit\|Immediately the M247 swung its turret toward the grand stand, confirmed target lock, and cheerfully requested permission to fire.]]
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	After the resulting stampede of influential persons trying to get out of the line of fire was calmed down, it was determined that a glitch in the radar system was responsible for the dangerous error. A radar glitch that was caused, according to the representatives of Ford Aerospace, by the M247 being washed prior to the demonstration, to which a member of the press responded, "Don't they know that it tends to rain in Europe?"		After the resulting stampede of influential persons trying to get out of the line of fire was calmed down, it was determined that a glitch in the radar system was responsible for the dangerous error. A radar glitch that was caused, according to the representatives of Ford Aerospace, by the M247 being washed prior to the demonstration, to which a member of the press responded, "Don't they know that it tends to rain in Europe?"

	The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky, it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant ~~Yorks~~ own ~~guns~~ when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York.		The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky--that was what it had been designed for in the first place, after all--it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant York's own gun barrels when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. It was noted at the time that even bolting on the primitive and obsolete range-only radar and fire control system from the VADS it was supposed to replace would have been an enormous improvement. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York. The lingering bad taste of this experience persists to this day. Almost forty years later there's still not a replacement for the VADS. No one wants to touch it.

	Presumably the ~~Reason~~ the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match. Hence why the York appears.		Presumably the reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match. Hence why the York appears.

	{{US Forces in Team Yankee}}		{{US Forces in Team Yankee}}

	[[Category:Vehicles]]		[[Category:Vehicles]]

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	After the resulting stampede of influential persons trying to get out of the line of fire was calmed down, it was determined that a glitch in the radar system was responsible for the dangerous error. A radar glitch that was caused, according to the representatives of Ford Aerospace, by the M247 being washed prior to the demonstration, to which a member of the press responded, "Don't they know that it tends to rain in Europe?"		After the resulting stampede of influential persons trying to get out of the line of fire was calmed down, it was determined that a glitch in the radar system was responsible for the dangerous error. A radar glitch that was caused, according to the representatives of Ford Aerospace, by the M247 being washed prior to the demonstration, to which a member of the press responded, "Don't they know that it tends to rain in Europe?"

	The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky, it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant Yorks own guns when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck.		The radar system was the bane of the M247. While it was a great system, in a plane in the sky, it just did not work on the ground. Everything from trees, to latrine fans, to stationary targets, to the Sergeant Yorks own guns when firing at extreme elevation threw the targeting system into a tizzy. Eventually Congress had to come down and cancel the funds for the M247 before any more money got sunk into the wreck. Decades later the Army would be forced to buy trailer mounted Phalanx units in to cover the gap left by the retirement of the VADS and the cancellation of the York.

	Presumably the Reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match. Hence why the York appears.		Presumably the Reason the York shows up is that the project was canceled the same year the Cold War goes hot: 1985. As the M163 VADS was always suppose to be a stop gap after the MIM 46 Mauler was canceled, the logic might have been they needed to get some kind of heavy SPAAG onto field: ASAP, the Duster being based on a light tank would have lacked in armor, while the York was suppose to advance with the tanks like the Commie [[ZSU 23-4 Shilka]] it was built to match. Hence why the York appears.