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	Like most prewar US tanks, the Sherman incorporated a bogie suspension system, with its initial incarnation using a vertical volute spring for each bogie. This made replacement of suspension elements very easy in the field, compared to a Christie or torsion bar system or ''Gott helfe dir'', a Schachtellaufwerk system. However, the Sherman had more limited roadwheels, narrower tracks and a correspondingly higher ground pressure, making it a more difficult tank to operate in rough terrain. The US Army would attempt to mitigate this through "duckbill" end connecters, giving a somewhat wider track (the tank pictured has both a VVSS suspension and duckbills). Later, the "easy eight" modification introduced a new suspension bogie, with dual road wheels and a horizontal volute spring. The HVSS would make the Sherman more of an off-road contender, and its smoother travel allowed tanks to more effectively shoot on the move.		Like most prewar US tanks, the Sherman incorporated a bogie suspension system, with its initial incarnation using a vertical volute spring for each bogie. This made replacement of suspension elements very easy in the field, compared to a Christie or torsion bar system or ''Gott helfe dir'', a Schachtellaufwerk system. However, the Sherman had more limited roadwheels, narrower tracks and a correspondingly higher ground pressure, making it a more difficult tank to operate in rough terrain. The US Army would attempt to mitigate this through "duckbill" end connecters, giving a somewhat wider track (the tank pictured has both a VVSS suspension and duckbills). Later, the "easy eight" modification introduced a new suspension bogie, with dual road wheels and a horizontal volute spring. The HVSS would make the Sherman more of an off-road contender, and its smoother travel allowed tanks to more effectively shoot on the move.

	In spite of this, the Sherman gained a reputation for being a deathtrap on tracks that would go up in flames or explode after suffering a hit with even the Jerries being said to nickname them "Tommycookers", which had some basis due to poor storage of ammo, but later variants moved the ammo and introduced wet-ammo storage to mitigate this (In reality, most burning tanks are the result of deliberate overkill to prevent recovery). Their height tended to be a liability in open plains, making them easier to see and hit, and harder to employ in ambushes compared to casemate assault guns like Hetzers or Archers. By the end of the war the vehicle suffered against the immense number of weapons that could penetrate it. Compare this to the Pacific Theater, where the Sherman was better than literally any of the tanks the Japanese were fielding operationally.		In spite of this, the Sherman gained a reputation for being a deathtrap on tracks that would go up in flames or explode after suffering a hit with even the Jerries being said to nickname them "Tommycookers", which had some basis due to poor storage of ammo, but later variants moved the ammo and introduced wet-ammo storage to mitigate this (In reality, most burning tanks are the result of deliberate overkill to prevent recovery). Their height tended to be a liability in open plains, making them easier to see and hit, and harder to employ in ambushes compared to casemate assault guns like Hetzers or Archers. By the end of the war the vehicle suffered against the immense number of weapons that could penetrate it, because two [[Nazi\|fanatical]] [[Communism\|retards]] thought that having a tank arms race was hilarious. Compare this to the Pacific Theater, where the Sherman was better than literally any of the tanks the Japanese were fielding operationally.

	Shermans, being one of the most modular chassis in the entire war, had tons of variants that we won't waste your time with. Instead, we'll just focus on the two cool ones: The "105 Sherman" and the Flame variant, but we encourage you to look up "Hobart's Funnies."		Shermans, being one of the most modular chassis in the entire war, had tons of variants that we won't waste your time with. Instead, we'll just focus on the two cool ones: The "105 Sherman" and the Flame variant, but we encourage you to look up "Hobart's Funnies."
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	Like most prewar US tanks, the Sherman incorporated a bogie suspension system, with its initial incarnation using a vertical volute spring for each bogie. This made replacement of suspension elements very easy in the field, compared to a Christie or torsion bar system or ''Gott helfe dir'', a Schachtellaufwerk system. However, the Sherman had more limited roadwheels, narrower tracks and a correspondingly higher ground pressure, making it a more difficult tank to operate in rough terrain. The US Army would attempt to mitigate this through "duckbill" end connecters, giving a somewhat wider track (the tank pictured has both a VVSS suspension and duckbills). Later, the "easy eight" modification introduced a new suspension bogie, with dual road wheels and a horizontal volute spring. The HVSS would make the Sherman more of an off-road contender, and its smoother travel allowed tanks to more effectively shoot on the move.		Like most prewar US tanks, the Sherman incorporated a bogie suspension system, with its initial incarnation using a vertical volute spring for each bogie. This made replacement of suspension elements very easy in the field, compared to a Christie or torsion bar system or ''Gott helfe dir'', a Schachtellaufwerk system. However, the Sherman had more limited roadwheels, narrower tracks and a correspondingly higher ground pressure, making it a more difficult tank to operate in rough terrain. The US Army would attempt to mitigate this through "duckbill" end connecters, giving a somewhat wider track (the tank pictured has both a VVSS suspension and duckbills). Later, the "easy eight" modification introduced a new suspension bogie, with dual road wheels and a horizontal volute spring. The HVSS would make the Sherman more of an off-road contender, and its smoother travel allowed tanks to more effectively shoot on the move.

	In spite of this, the Sherman gained a reputation for being a deathtrap on tracks that would go up in flames or explode after suffering a hit with even the Jerries being said to nickname them "Tommycookers", which had some basis due to poor storage of ammo, but later variants moved the ammo and introduced wet-ammo storage to mitigate this (In reality, most burning tanks are the result of deliberate overkill to prevent recovery). Their height tended to be a liability in open plains, making them easier to see and hit, and harder to employ in ambushes compared to casemate assault guns like Hetzers or Archers. By the end of the war the vehicle suffered against the immense number of weapons that could penetrate it~~, because two [[Nazi\|fanatical]] [[Communism\|retards]] thought that having a tank arms race was hilarious~~. Compare this to the Pacific Theater, where the Sherman was better than literally any of the tanks the Japanese were fielding operationally.		In spite of this, the Sherman gained a reputation for being a deathtrap on tracks that would go up in flames or explode after suffering a hit with even the Jerries being said to nickname them "Tommycookers", which had some basis due to poor storage of ammo, but later variants moved the ammo and introduced wet-ammo storage to mitigate this (In reality, most burning tanks are the result of deliberate overkill to prevent recovery). Their height tended to be a liability in open plains, making them easier to see and hit, and harder to employ in ambushes compared to casemate assault guns like Hetzers or Archers. By the end of the war the vehicle suffered against the immense number of weapons that could penetrate it. Compare this to the Pacific Theater, where the Sherman was better than literally any of the tanks the Japanese were fielding operationally.

	Shermans, being one of the most modular chassis in the entire war, had tons of variants that we won't waste your time with. Instead, we'll just focus on the two cool ones: The "105 Sherman" and the Flame variant, but we encourage you to look up "Hobart's Funnies."		Shermans, being one of the most modular chassis in the entire war, had tons of variants that we won't waste your time with. Instead, we'll just focus on the two cool ones: The "105 Sherman" and the Flame variant, but we encourage you to look up "Hobart's Funnies."

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1d4chan>Piroko: /* In Real Life */ Let's try to keep things brief.

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	[[File:M4 Sherman IRL.jpg\|thumb\|"This American tub's not half bad wot?"]]		[[File:M4 Sherman IRL.jpg\|thumb\|"This American tub's not half bad wot?"]]

	The M4 epitomizes the US Government's commitment to supplying its soldiers with massive quantities of good enough equipment. From the onset, the M4 was designed to maximize ease of repair and part longevity over all other concerns since the damn thing had to serve an ocean away from the factory making the parts for them. Mechanically, it was largely a continuation of the ''definitely not good enough'' M3, minimizing the amount of factory changes needed to produce it. Ultimately M4s would be churned out by a dozen companies with half a dozen different engine setups, ranging from V8s to twin diesels to repurposed aircraft engines (this was originally designated by the "Able" suffix; the Army's preferred V8 Sherman was the M4A3. Meanwhile Britain used Roman numerals and proper names, so their preferred multi-bank engine M4A4 instead became the Sherman V). Its slab-sided high profile was a consequence of a secondary requirement that it be easily transportable by existing railroads, which initially limited its overall width to 103 inches. It is fitting then that with all these considerations in mind, most of which were pragmatic consideration for logistics of waging an overseas war, that the vehicle would be named after one of the United States' most infamously pragmatic Generals.		The M4 epitomizes the US Government's commitment to supplying its soldiers with massive quantities of good enough equipment. From the onset, the M4 was designed to maximize ease of repair and part longevity over all other concerns since the damn thing had to serve an ocean away from the factory making the parts for them. Mechanically, it was largely a continuation of the ''definitely not good enough'' M3, minimizing the amount of factory changes needed to produce it. Ultimately M4s would be churned out by a dozen companies with half a dozen different engine setups, ranging from V8s to twin diesels to repurposed aircraft engines. Its slab-sided high profile was a consequence of a secondary requirement that it be easily transportable by existing railroads, which initially limited its overall width to 103 inches. It is fitting then that with all these considerations in mind, most of which were pragmatic consideration for logistics of waging an overseas war, that the vehicle would be named after one of the United States' most infamously pragmatic Generals.

	Contrary to popular belief, the Sherman was very much intended to fight other tanks; its original 75mm gun M3 (the same as the M3's sponson gun, but more sensibly mounted in the turret) was the best possible tank gun the Americans had at the start of the war, and projects to find a replacement began as early as 1942. The 75mm was adequate against Panzer IIIs and IVs and could perform surprisingly well against the big cats as battles like Arracourt demonstrate. 75mm HE ammo was also highly regarded for its ability to kill enemy infantry (and this ''was'' a pretty significant consideration for tankers, with one tank battalion claiming to have used 55 AP rounds in 5 months but 19,634 HE rounds during that same time), and the Marine Corps retained the older Shermans for this reason while 76mm-using Sherman's HE rounds were largely considered disappointing by comparison (containing a third less explosive filler).		Contrary to popular belief, the Sherman was very much intended to fight other tanks; its original 75mm gun M3 (the same as the M3's sponson gun, but more sensibly mounted in the turret) was the best possible tank gun the Americans had at the start of the war, and projects to find a replacement began as early as 1942. The 75mm was adequate against Panzer IIIs and IVs and could perform surprisingly well against the big cats as battles like Arracourt demonstrate. 75mm HE ammo was also highly regarded for its ability to kill enemy infantry (and this ''was'' a pretty significant consideration for tankers, with one tank battalion claiming to have used 55 AP rounds in 5 months but 19,634 HE rounds during that same time), and the Marine Corps retained the older Shermans for this reason while 76mm-using Sherman's HE rounds were largely considered disappointing by comparison (containing a third less explosive filler).

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	Early attempts to add more powerful guns resulted in extremely cramped turrets, significantly compromising the ability to lay guns and make follow-on shots. The British decided the added anti-tank ability was worth the compromises, resulting in the Ic and Vc "Firefly" tanks incorporating their massive 17 pdr gun; these were effectively ambush vehicles, and would always be incorporated into larger units with 75mm Shermans. The US would finally adapt the T23 turret (with 76mm gun M1) from the Pershing prototypes in the "easy six" conversion, although very few of these tanks arrived in Europe in time for D-Day.		Early attempts to add more powerful guns resulted in extremely cramped turrets, significantly compromising the ability to lay guns and make follow-on shots. The British decided the added anti-tank ability was worth the compromises, resulting in the Ic and Vc "Firefly" tanks incorporating their massive 17 pdr gun; these were effectively ambush vehicles, and would always be incorporated into larger units with 75mm Shermans. The US would finally adapt the T23 turret (with 76mm gun M1) from the Pershing prototypes in the "easy six" conversion, although very few of these tanks arrived in Europe in time for D-Day.

	Like most prewar US tanks, the Sherman incorporated a bogie suspension system, with its initial incarnation using a vertical volute spring for each bogie. This made replacement of suspension elements very easy in the field, compared to a Christie or torsion bar system. However, the Sherman had more limited roadwheels, narrower tracks and a correspondingly higher ground pressure, making it a more difficult tank to operate in rough terrain. The US Army would attempt to mitigate this through "duckbill" end connecters, giving a somewhat wider track (the tank pictured has both a VVSS suspension and duckbills). Later, the "easy eight" modification introduced a new suspension bogie, with dual road wheels and a horizontal volute spring. The HVSS would make the Sherman more of an off-road contender, and its smoother travel allowed tanks to more effectively shoot on the move.		Like most prewar US tanks, the Sherman incorporated a bogie suspension system, with its initial incarnation using a vertical volute spring for each bogie. This made replacement of suspension elements very easy in the field, compared to a Christie or torsion bar system or ''Gott helfe dir'', a Schachtellaufwerk system. However, the Sherman had more limited roadwheels, narrower tracks and a correspondingly higher ground pressure, making it a more difficult tank to operate in rough terrain. The US Army would attempt to mitigate this through "duckbill" end connecters, giving a somewhat wider track (the tank pictured has both a VVSS suspension and duckbills). Later, the "easy eight" modification introduced a new suspension bogie, with dual road wheels and a horizontal volute spring. The HVSS would make the Sherman more of an off-road contender, and its smoother travel allowed tanks to more effectively shoot on the move.

	In spite of this, the Sherman gained a reputation for being a deathtrap on tracks that would go up in flames or explode after suffering a hit with even the Jerries being said to nickname them "Tommycookers", which had some basis due to poor storage of ammo, but later variants moved the ammo and introduced wet-ammo storage to mitigate this (In reality, most burning tanks are the result of deliberate overkill to prevent recovery). Their height tended to be a liability in open plains, making them easier to see and hit, and harder to employ in ambushes compared to casemate assault guns like Hetzers or Archers. By the end of the war the vehicle suffered against the immense number of weapons that could penetrate it, because two [[Nazi\|fanatical]] [[Communism\|retards]] thought that having a tank arms race was hilarious. Compare this to the Pacific Theater, where the Sherman was better than literally any of the tanks the Japanese were fielding operationally.		In spite of this, the Sherman gained a reputation for being a deathtrap on tracks that would go up in flames or explode after suffering a hit with even the Jerries being said to nickname them "Tommycookers", which had some basis due to poor storage of ammo, but later variants moved the ammo and introduced wet-ammo storage to mitigate this (In reality, most burning tanks are the result of deliberate overkill to prevent recovery). Their height tended to be a liability in open plains, making them easier to see and hit, and harder to employ in ambushes compared to casemate assault guns like Hetzers or Archers. By the end of the war the vehicle suffered against the immense number of weapons that could penetrate it, because two [[Nazi\|fanatical]] [[Communism\|retards]] thought that having a tank arms race was hilarious. Compare this to the Pacific Theater, where the Sherman was better than literally any of the tanks the Japanese were fielding operationally.

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	====M4 (105)====		====M4 (105)====
	The M4 (105) is the odd one out here, being essentially an artillery/assault gun variant on the Sherman. It's got an AT9, FP2+, Brutal and Slow-Firing 105mm gun as well as the FA7 of the 76mm Sherman. All in all, it's kinda hard to find a place for, trying to fill a niche that doesn't really exist. It's got the armor to go toe to toe with enemy mediums, but not the penetration. It's helpless against heavies. It's job as artillery is done better by the cheaper priest and 105mm towed artillery. It lacks the volume of fire to deal with enemy infantry platoons in direct fire. It may find a place hunting enemy light and medium AT guns, but it will get slaughtered by enemy heavy AT. It might be useful as an integrated artillery asset in an M4 tank company, but you have so many other units you can put in there, why bother. If someone comes up with a use for this thing, let me know!		The [[Leman Russ Demolisher]] of the lot, the M4 (105) is the odd one out here, being essentially an artillery/assault gun variant on the Sherman. It's got an AT9, FP2+, Brutal and Slow-Firing 105mm gun as well as the FA7 of the 76mm Sherman. All in all, it's kinda hard to find a place for, trying to fill a niche that doesn't really exist. It's got the armor to go toe to toe with enemy mediums, but not the penetration. It's helpless against heavies. It's job as artillery is done better by the cheaper priest and 105mm towed artillery. It lacks the volume of fire to deal with enemy infantry platoons in direct fire. It may find a place hunting enemy light and medium AT guns, but it will get slaughtered by enemy heavy AT. It might be useful as an integrated artillery asset in an M4 tank company, but you have so many other units you can put in there, why bother. If someone comes up with a use for this thing, let me know!

	====M4 (76)W====		====M4 (76)W====

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M4 Calliope

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	====M4 Calliope====		====M4 Calliope====
	[[File:M4 Sherman Calliope Statcard.jpeg\|thumb\|left\|[[Exorcist Multiple Missile Launcher\|"Can you hear an Organ play?"]]]]		[[File:M4 Sherman Calliope Statcard.jpeg\|thumb\|left\|[[Exorcist Multiple Missile Launcher\|"Can you hear an Organ play?"]]]]
	Rocket's on a armored platform, and before you ask, the gun is ~~[[pretend\|fake]]~~.		Rocket's on a armored platform, and before you ask, sadly you can't use the gun because the rocket launcher is bolted to it.

	====M4 (Late)====		====M4 (Late)====