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	[[File:Sturmvogel Statcard.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Die Statisken]]		[[File:Sturmvogel Statcard.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Die Statisken]]
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	~~Motorized heavier-than-air flight was first achieved by~~ the internal combustion ~~engine. IC Engines~~ were ~~previously been used~~ to ~~power farm machines~~ and ~~automobiles and adapting them for planes was not particularly hard. Planes~~ with piston engines spinning props ~~would~~ soon ~~populate~~ the ~~sky and would be ruthlessly~~ refined. Even so, ~~there were~~ engineers ~~who~~ thought they could do better by building a ~~big~~ high-power fuel-burning turbine that would suck in air and shoot it out it's backside. There was pie-in-the-sky discussion about it in the 1920s ~~and in~~ the 1930s ~~there were guys~~ in Britain, Germany, Italy and Japan ~~trying~~ to ~~make it~~ a reality. In Germany a fellow going by Ernst Heinkel managed to put together the He 178, which first flew days before the invasion of Poland. Hitler and the Luftwaffe brass were impressed, but there was a long way to go from that to a practical warplane.		By the early 20th century internal-combustion engines were reliable and powerful enough to be adapted for flight, and so aircraft with piston engines and spinning props soon populated the skies. Over time this concept was successively refined so that a WWII-era fighter possessed nearly-magical capabilities compared to the laughably primitive designs used just 25 years earlier. Even so, many engineers thought they could do even better by building a high-power fuel-burning jet turbine that would suck in air and shoot it out the turbine's backside. There was pie-in-the-sky discussion about this concept in the 1920s, but it wasn't until the the 1930s that designers in Britain, Germany, Italy and Japan were coming close to making jet power a reality. In Germany a fellow going by Ernst Heinkel managed to put together the He 178, which first flew days before the invasion of Poland. Hitler and the Luftwaffe brass were impressed, but there was a long way to go from that to a practical warplane.

	~~There~~ was a fair bit of resistance to military jets in the early years of the war for some admittedly good reasons. This was an unproven technology unlike anything the ~~germans~~ were using and it would inevitably have a lot of bugs in it~~. Especially~~ since the German aviation industry ~~would eventually push for economies of scale~~ of a few ~~airplane~~ designs. ~~People were pushing for~~ next generation piston ~~planes~~ for ~~some time~~, ~~though work continued on Jets in~~ the ~~background. Eventually they had~~ the Junkers Ju-004 engine which worked reasonably well ~~and they used them~~ on the ME-262.		Among the Germans, there was a fair bit of resistance to military jets in the early years of the war and for some admittedly good reasons. This was an unproven technology unlike anything the Germans were using and it would inevitably have a lot of bugs in it, which was a problem since the German aviation industry preferred to build large numbers of just a few proven designs. Therefore, jet research competed with next-generation piston design for manpower and resources. Eventually though, the Germans developed the Junkers Ju-004 jet engine, which worked reasonably well on the ME-262.

	While revolutionary in the field of aeronautics, the Me-262 was not without its problems. For starters, ~~because this was~~ late in the war, Germany was running out of critical materials, and this impacted the performance for the fighter. The engines had to be refitted after 10 hours of use, and replaced entirely after 35 due to the lack of heat-resistant materials. Still, the Me-262 was the most advanced fighter on the battlefield and was more than a match for any allied fighter it came across - it’s just that so few of them ~~could be~~ made that they hardly made an impact ~~for the Axis~~. Most Me-262s were destroyed while they were still on the ground, or when they were taking off or landing, which is when they were most vulnerable. Still, the Me-262 marks an important development in the field of aviation, as after the war, jet power became the standard for nearly all aircraft.		While revolutionary in the field of aeronautics, the ME-262 was not without its problems. For starters, the ME-262 came late in the war when Germany was running out of critical materials, and this impacted the performance for the fighter. The engines had to be refitted after 10 hours of use, and replaced entirely after 35 due to the lack of heat-resistant materials. Still, the ME-262 was the most advanced fighter on the battlefield and was more than a match for any allied fighter it came across - it’s just that so few of them were made that they hardly made an impact. Most Me-262s were destroyed while they were still on the ground, or when they were taking off or landing, which is when they were most vulnerable. Still, the Me-262 marks an important development in the field of aviation, as after the war, jet power became the standard for nearly all aircraft.

	It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first~~, as~~ Britain had ~~prototyped and fielded the~~ Glostor Meteor ~~several~~ months ahead of the ~~Germans~~. ~~The~~ Germans ~~just~~ started fielding ~~them earlier~~ because they were desperate to get them to the ~~field~~.		It is also a ''slight'' exaggeration to say that the Germans did jet fighters first. Britain had flown a jet-propelled Glostor Meteor prototype a few months ahead of the first jet-propelled ME-262 test flight. However, the Germans started fielding their jets first because they were desperate to get them into combat. This resulted in many teething issues with the ME-262 that were never resolved, particularly the reliability problems mentioned earlier. Meanwhile the Meteor went on to become a fairly capable fighter in the early jet era.

	After the war, the ME-262 was ~~given~~ a ~~specific place~~ in the mythology of WWII. After all, it was a ~~State Of The Art~~ fighting machine used by the ~~Arch~~-~~Enemy~~ of the 20th century ~~that could be~~ highly effective ~~against allied airpower~~. On the other hand, it's also overblown as a potential war-winner.		After the war, the ME-262 was placed on a pedestal in the mythology of WWII. After all, it was a state-of-the-art fighting machine used by the arch-enemy of the 20th century, and when used correctly it ''was'' highly effective. On the other hand, it's also overblown as a potential war-winner.

	Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s they could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued ~~making~~ ME-262s and ~~operate~~ them after the war. ~~Similarly~~ Soviet Union ~~who'd~~ lagged behind in jet-tech ~~also~~ made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, ~~but decided against it~~. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, ~~remove~~ the piston engine, ~~slap~~ in a JU-004 clone engine and ~~smooth~~ out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.		Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s they could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued to make ME-262s and operated them after the war. The Soviet Union had lagged behind in jet-tech, and so made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked. However, they didn't pursue the ME-262 concept beyond this. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, removed the piston engine, slapped in a JU-004 clone engine, and smoothed out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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	[[File:ME-262-A2.webp\|thumb\|"I am the first, but I shall not be the last, for I am a herald of a new age".]]		[[File:ME-262-A2.webp\|thumb\|"I am the first, but I shall not be the last, for I am a herald of a new age."]]
	The '''Messerschmitt ME-262''', also known as the '''Schwalbe''', was the first fully operational jet-powered fighter aircraft and features as a unit in [[Flames of War]] in it's fighter-bomber form as the '''ME-262A-2''', the ''Sturmvogel''. Equipped with twin 30mm cannons, as well as a pair of 500kg bombs.		The '''Messerschmitt ME-262''', also known as the '''Schwalbe''', was the first fully operational jet-powered fighter aircraft and features as a unit in [[Flames of War]] in it's fighter-bomber form as the '''ME-262A-2''', the ''Sturmvogel''. Equipped with twin 30mm cannons, as well as a pair of 500kg bombs.
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	After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. After all, it was a State Of The Art fighting machine used by the Arch-Enemy of the 20th century that could be highly effective against allied airpower. On the other hand, it's also overblown as a potential war-winner.		After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. After all, it was a State Of The Art fighting machine used by the Arch-Enemy of the 20th century that could be highly effective against allied airpower. On the other hand, it's also overblown as a potential war-winner.

	Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.		Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s they could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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	Motorized heavier-than-air flight was first achieved by the internal combustion engine. IC Engines were previously been used to power farm machines and automobiles and adapting them for planes was not particularly hard. Planes with piston engines spinning props would soon populate the sky and would be ruthlessly refined. Even so, there were engineers who thought they could do better by building a big high-power fuel-burning turbine that would suck in air and shoot it out it's backside. There was pie-in-the-sky discussion about it in the 1920s and in the 1930s there were guys in Britain, Germany, Italy and Japan trying to make it a reality. In Germany a fellow going by Ernst Heinkel managed to put together the He 178, which first flew days before the invasion of Poland. Hitler and the Luftwaffe brass were impressed, but there was a long way to go from that to a practical warplane.		Motorized heavier-than-air flight was first achieved by the internal combustion engine. IC Engines were previously been used to power farm machines and automobiles and adapting them for planes was not particularly hard. Planes with piston engines spinning props would soon populate the sky and would be ruthlessly refined. Even so, there were engineers who thought they could do better by building a big high-power fuel-burning turbine that would suck in air and shoot it out it's backside. There was pie-in-the-sky discussion about it in the 1920s and in the 1930s there were guys in Britain, Germany, Italy and Japan trying to make it a reality. In Germany a fellow going by Ernst Heinkel managed to put together the He 178, which first flew days before the invasion of Poland. Hitler and the Luftwaffe brass were impressed, but there was a long way to go from that to a practical warplane.

	There was a fair bit of resistance to military jets in the early years of the war for some admittedly good reasons. This was an unproven technology unlike anything the germans were using and it would inevitably have a lot of bugs in it. Especially since the German aviation industry would eventually push for economies of scale of a few airplane designs. People were pushing for next generation piston planes for some time, though work continued on Jets in the ~~backgorund~~. Eventually they had the Junkers Ju-004 engine which worked reasonably well and they used them on the ME-262.		There was a fair bit of resistance to military jets in the early years of the war for some admittedly good reasons. This was an unproven technology unlike anything the germans were using and it would inevitably have a lot of bugs in it. Especially since the German aviation industry would eventually push for economies of scale of a few airplane designs. People were pushing for next generation piston planes for some time, though work continued on Jets in the background. Eventually they had the Junkers Ju-004 engine which worked reasonably well and they used them on the ME-262.

	While revolutionary in the field of aeronautics, the Me-262 was not without its problems. For starters, because this was late in the war, Germany was running out of critical materials, and this impacted the performance for the fighter. The engines had to be refitted after 10 hours of use, and replaced entirely after 35 due to the lack of heat-resistant materials. Still, the Me-262 was the most advanced fighter on the battlefield and was more than a match for any allied fighter it came across - it’s just that so few of them could be made that they hardly made an impact for the Axis. Most Me-262s were destroyed while they were still on the ground, or when they were taking off or landing, which is when they were most vulnerable. Still, the Me-262 marks an important development in the field of aviation, as after the war, jet power became the standard for nearly all aircraft.		While revolutionary in the field of aeronautics, the Me-262 was not without its problems. For starters, because this was late in the war, Germany was running out of critical materials, and this impacted the performance for the fighter. The engines had to be refitted after 10 hours of use, and replaced entirely after 35 due to the lack of heat-resistant materials. Still, the Me-262 was the most advanced fighter on the battlefield and was more than a match for any allied fighter it came across - it’s just that so few of them could be made that they hardly made an impact for the Axis. Most Me-262s were destroyed while they were still on the ground, or when they were taking off or landing, which is when they were most vulnerable. Still, the Me-262 marks an important development in the field of aviation, as after the war, jet power became the standard for nearly all aircraft.
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	It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.		It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.

	After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. ~~Most notably several German figures such as Luftwaffe Ace Adolf Galland said that~~ it ~~could have introduced sooner and if it had been it could have changed~~ the ~~course~~ of the ~~war on~~ it's ~~own. This is~~ a ~~really dodgy claim given the state of everything else in Germany at the time, such as the prolonged collapse of the German industrial base~~.		After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. After all, it was a State Of The Art fighting machine used by the Arch-Enemy of the 20th century that could be highly effective against allied airpower. On the other hand, it's also overblown as a potential war-winner.

	Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.		Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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	It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.		It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.

	After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. Most notably several German figures such as Luftwaffe Ace Adolf Galland said that it could have introduced sooner and if it had been it could have changed the course of the war on it's own. This is a really dodgy claim given the state of everything else in Germany at the time.		After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. Most notably several German figures such as Luftwaffe Ace Adolf Galland said that it could have introduced sooner and if it had been it could have changed the course of the war on it's own. This is a really dodgy claim given the state of everything else in Germany at the time, such as the prolonged collapse of the German industrial base.

	Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.		Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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	It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.		It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.

	After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. Most notably several German figures said that it could have introduced sooner and if it had been it could have changed the course of the war on it's own. This is a really dodgy claim given the state of everything else in Germany at the time.		After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. Most notably several German figures such as Luftwaffe Ace Adolf Galland said that it could have introduced sooner and if it had been it could have changed the course of the war on it's own. This is a really dodgy claim given the state of everything else in Germany at the time.

	Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.		Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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	It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.		It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.

			After the war, the ME-262 was given a specific place in the mythology of WWII. Most notably several German figures said that it could have introduced sooner and if it had been it could have changed the course of the war on it's own. This is a really dodgy claim given the state of everything else in Germany at the time.

	Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.		Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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	[[File:Sturmvogel Statcard.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Die Statisken]]		[[File:Sturmvogel Statcard.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Die Statisken]]
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			Motorized heavier-than-air flight was first achieved by the internal combustion engine. IC Engines were previously been used to power farm machines and automobiles and adapting them for planes was not particularly hard. Planes with piston engines spinning props would soon populate the sky and would be ruthlessly refined. Even so, there were engineers who thought they could do better by building a big high-power fuel-burning turbine that would suck in air and shoot it out it's backside. There was pie-in-the-sky discussion about it in the 1920s and in the 1930s there were guys in Britain, Germany, Italy and Japan trying to make it a reality. In Germany a fellow going by Ernst Heinkel managed to put together the He 178, which first flew days before the invasion of Poland. Hitler and the Luftwaffe brass were impressed, but there was a long way to go from that to a practical warplane.

			There was a fair bit of resistance to military jets in the early years of the war for some admittedly good reasons. This was an unproven technology unlike anything the germans were using and it would inevitably have a lot of bugs in it. Especially since the German aviation industry would eventually push for economies of scale of a few airplane designs. People were pushing for next generation piston planes for some time, though work continued on Jets in the backgorund. Eventually they had the Junkers Ju-004 engine which worked reasonably well and they used them on the ME-262.

	While revolutionary in the field of aeronautics, the Me-262 was not without its problems. For starters, because this was late in the war, Germany was running out of critical materials, and this impacted the performance for the fighter. The engines had to be refitted after 10 hours of use, and replaced entirely after 35 due to the lack of heat-resistant materials. Still, the Me-262 was the most advanced fighter on the battlefield and was more than a match for any allied fighter it came across - it’s just that so few of them could be made that they hardly made an impact for the Axis. Most Me-262s were destroyed while they were still on the ground, or when they were taking off or landing, which is when they were most vulnerable. Still, the Me-262 marks an important development in the field of aviation, as after the war, jet power became the standard for nearly all aircraft.		While revolutionary in the field of aeronautics, the Me-262 was not without its problems. For starters, because this was late in the war, Germany was running out of critical materials, and this impacted the performance for the fighter. The engines had to be refitted after 10 hours of use, and replaced entirely after 35 due to the lack of heat-resistant materials. Still, the Me-262 was the most advanced fighter on the battlefield and was more than a match for any allied fighter it came across - it’s just that so few of them could be made that they hardly made an impact for the Axis. Most Me-262s were destroyed while they were still on the ground, or when they were taking off or landing, which is when they were most vulnerable. Still, the Me-262 marks an important development in the field of aviation, as after the war, jet power became the standard for nearly all aircraft.

	It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.		It is also an exaggeration to say the Germans did jet fighters first, as Britain had prototyped and fielded the Glostor Meteor several months ahead of the Germans. The Germans just started fielding them earlier because they were desperate to get them to the field.

			Near and after the end of the war, the Americans, British and Soviets were all really keen on getting whatever ME-262s could for evaluation and study. In particular, the Czechs continued making ME-262s and operate them after the war. Similarly Soviet Union who'd lagged behind in jet-tech also made a copy of the ME-262 just to see how it worked, but decided against it. Instead they decided to take the airframe design of the Yak-3 fighter, remove the piston engine, slap in a JU-004 clone engine and smooth out the airframe a bit. The result was the YAK-15 and it's follow-up the YAK-17.

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