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1d4chan>GloriousGidofter at 23:23, 28 January 2021

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	Have you ever wanted to be like that snake from the Jungle Book? Ever wanted to be the master manipulator? To implant thoughts in people's heads that can alter what they do?		Have you ever wanted to be like that snake from the Jungle Book? Ever wanted to be the master manipulator? To implant thoughts in people's heads that can alter what they do?

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	Have you ever wanted to be like that snake from the Jungle Book? Ever wanted to be the master manipulator? To implant thoughts in people's heads that can alter what they do?		Have you ever wanted to be like that snake from the Jungle Book? Ever wanted to be the master manipulator? To implant thoughts in people's heads that can alter what they do?

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	Have you ever wanted to be like that snake from the Jungle Book? Ever wanted to be the master manipulator? To implant thoughts in people's heads that can alter what they do?		Have you ever wanted to be like that snake from the Jungle Book? Ever wanted to be the master manipulator? To implant thoughts in people's heads that can alter what they do?

1d4chan>Agiletek: Undo revision 691663 by 207.75.48.88 (talk) Well for starters, this broke the parenthesis. Secondly, it doesn't matter if it "makes sense", it's still never indicated and WotC are indeed notoriously error prone.

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Undo revision 691663 by 207.75.48.88 (talk) Well for starters, this broke the parenthesis. Secondly, it doesn't matter if it "makes sense", it's still never indicated and WotC are indeed notoriously error prone.

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	==d20 Modern==		==d20 Modern==
	[[d20 Modern\|D20 Modern]] has a Mesmerist class in ''d20 Past''. It's an explicitly nerfed version of the Telepath from the core book. This is notable for two reasons. 1: The explicit nerf confirms WotC ''intentionally'' didn't balance classes against eachother 2: It neglects to say what list it learns its psionic powers from, rendering it [[Truenamer]] levels of broken (the example character suggests the telepath list, ~~<s>~~but example characters are always wrong)~~.</S> Which makes sense given it's a nerfed Telepath~~.		[[d20 Modern\|D20 Modern]] has a Mesmerist class in ''d20 Past''. It's an explicitly nerfed version of the Telepath from the core book. This is notable for two reasons. 1: The explicit nerf confirms WotC ''intentionally'' didn't balance classes against eachother 2: It neglects to say what list it learns its psionic powers from, rendering it [[Truenamer]] levels of broken (the example character suggests the telepath list, but example characters are always wrong).


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	==d20 Modern==		==d20 Modern==
	[[d20 Modern\|D20 Modern]] has a Mesmerist class in ''d20 Past''. It's an explicitly nerfed version of the Telepath from the core book. This is notable for two reasons. 1: The explicit nerf confirms WotC ''intentionally'' didn't balance classes against eachother 2: It neglects to say what list it learns its psionic powers from, rendering it [[Truenamer]] levels of broken (the example character suggests the telepath list, but example characters are always wrong).		[[d20 Modern\|D20 Modern]] has a Mesmerist class in ''d20 Past''. It's an explicitly nerfed version of the Telepath from the core book. This is notable for two reasons. 1: The explicit nerf confirms WotC ''intentionally'' didn't balance classes against eachother 2: It neglects to say what list it learns its psionic powers from, rendering it [[Truenamer]] levels of broken (the example character suggests the telepath list, <s>but example characters are always wrong).</S> Which makes sense given it's a nerfed Telepath.


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1d4chan>Agiletek at 18:58, 29 June 2020

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	All in all, the Mesmerist is a low [[Tier System\|Tier 3]]: Able to do one thing well, disabling foes who can't pass a will save while making it harder for them to pass it, and capable of contributing when that's not possible or appropriate since their list contains some buffs and they've got a not insignificant damage as well as good skills. Their spell list still lacks somewhat in versatility compared to a Bard or Magus, being low on anything that isn't a buff or targeting will saves, and they need to blow a trait on Disable Device as a class skill to fufill the role they're best suited for. Still, they've got plenty of casting from a non-terrible list, good skills aside from the lack of disable device, and their class features are far better and more synergistic than [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]] or [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] got.		All in all, the Mesmerist is a low [[Tier System\|Tier 3]]: Able to do one thing well, disabling foes who can't pass a will save while making it harder for them to pass it, and capable of contributing when that's not possible or appropriate since their list contains some buffs and they've got a not insignificant damage as well as good skills. Their spell list still lacks somewhat in versatility compared to a Bard or Magus, being low on anything that isn't a buff or targeting will saves, and they need to blow a trait on Disable Device as a class skill to fufill the role they're best suited for. Still, they've got plenty of casting from a non-terrible list, good skills aside from the lack of disable device, and their class features are far better and more synergistic than [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]] or [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] got.

			==d20 Modern==
			[[d20 Modern\|D20 Modern]] has a Mesmerist class in ''d20 Past''. It's an explicitly nerfed version of the Telepath from the core book. This is notable for two reasons. 1: The explicit nerf confirms WotC ''intentionally'' didn't balance classes against eachother 2: It neglects to say what list it learns its psionic powers from, rendering it [[Truenamer]] levels of broken (the example character suggests the telepath list, but example characters are always wrong).


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1d4chan>Agiletek at 19:38, 31 January 2020

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	Some of your other abilities include: getting your Charisma bonus to Will saving throws, applying more penalties with your hypnotic stare (like affecting undead and vermin, debuffing attack and damage rolls, and other bonuses), removing harmful effects from themselves or allies with just a touch (this one is important because it makes them the only occult caster to not be completely and utterly fucked by fear effects), implanting two tricks in an ally's head, getting bonuses to enchantment and illusion spells, being able to fool lie detecting magic, getting more powerful mesmerist tricks (like cursing an enemy that attacks your ally, faking an ally's death, and others), and getting mind slaves. Permanently.		Some of your other abilities include: getting your Charisma bonus to Will saving throws, applying more penalties with your hypnotic stare (like affecting undead and vermin, debuffing attack and damage rolls, and other bonuses), removing harmful effects from themselves or allies with just a touch (this one is important because it makes them the only occult caster to not be completely and utterly fucked by fear effects), implanting two tricks in an ally's head, getting bonuses to enchantment and illusion spells, being able to fool lie detecting magic, getting more powerful mesmerist tricks (like cursing an enemy that attacks your ally, faking an ally's death, and others), and getting mind slaves. Permanently.

	All in all, the Mesmerist is a low [[Tier System\|Tier 3]]. Their spell list lacks somewhat in versatility compared to a Bard or Magus, being low on anything that isn't a buff or targeting will saves, and they need to blow a trait on Disable Device as a class skill to fufill the role they're best suited for. Still, they've got plenty of casting from a non-terrible list, good skills aside from the lack of disable device, and their class features are far better and more synergistic than [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]] or [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] got.		All in all, the Mesmerist is a low [[Tier System\|Tier 3]]: Able to do one thing well, disabling foes who can't pass a will save while making it harder for them to pass it, and capable of contributing when that's not possible or appropriate since their list contains some buffs and they've got a not insignificant damage as well as good skills. Their spell list still lacks somewhat in versatility compared to a Bard or Magus, being low on anything that isn't a buff or targeting will saves, and they need to blow a trait on Disable Device as a class skill to fufill the role they're best suited for. Still, they've got plenty of casting from a non-terrible list, good skills aside from the lack of disable device, and their class features are far better and more synergistic than [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]] or [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] got.

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1d4chan>Agiletek at 07:09, 30 January 2020

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	Third: Mesmerist tricks. Essentially, you touch somebody and Inception an idea into their head, which you can later activate, a la-The Manchurian Candidate, but with less communism. You can activate these as a free action when your buddy is in a tight spot.		Third: Mesmerist tricks. Essentially, you touch somebody and Inception an idea into their head, which you can later activate, a la-The Manchurian Candidate, but with less communism. You can activate these as a free action when your buddy is in a tight spot.

	Some of your other abilities include: getting your Charisma bonus to Will saving throws, applying more penalties with your ~~hynotic~~ stare (like affecting undead and vermin, debuffing attack and damage rolls, and other bonuses), removing harmful effects from ~~his~~ allies with just a touch, implanting two tricks in an ally's head, getting bonuses to enchantment and illusion spells, being able to fool lie detecting magic, getting more powerful mesmerist tricks (like cursing an enemy that attacks your ally, faking an ally's death, and others), and getting mind slaves. Permanently.		Some of your other abilities include: getting your Charisma bonus to Will saving throws, applying more penalties with your hypnotic stare (like affecting undead and vermin, debuffing attack and damage rolls, and other bonuses), removing harmful effects from themselves or allies with just a touch (this one is important because it makes them the only occult caster to not be completely and utterly fucked by fear effects), implanting two tricks in an ally's head, getting bonuses to enchantment and illusion spells, being able to fool lie detecting magic, getting more powerful mesmerist tricks (like cursing an enemy that attacks your ally, faking an ally's death, and others), and getting mind slaves. Permanently.

	All in all, the Mesmerist is ~~at the same power level as the bard, with~~ a ~~somewhat similar~~ spell list ~~focused~~ on ~~enchantment~~ and ~~illusion~~, ~~though~~ they'~~re much~~ better ~~at debuffing enemies~~ than ~~they are at buffing their allies~~.		All in all, the Mesmerist is a low [[Tier System\|Tier 3]]. Their spell list lacks somewhat in versatility compared to a Bard or Magus, being low on anything that isn't a buff or targeting will saves, and they need to blow a trait on Disable Device as a class skill to fufill the role they're best suited for. Still, they've got plenty of casting from a non-terrible list, good skills aside from the lack of disable device, and their class features are far better and more synergistic than [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]] or [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] got.

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