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63.193.173.168: /* Metal Gear and /tg/ */

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Metal Gear and /tg/

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	There was a limited edition version of [[Risk]] with Metal Gear tappings. However it is out of print and now costs more to buy than any of the games alone. Because Konami is [[what\|even dumber]] than [[Games Workshop]].		There was a limited edition version of [[Risk]] with Metal Gear tappings. However it is out of print and now costs more to buy than any of the games alone. Because Konami is [[what\|even dumber]] than [[Games Workshop]].

			There is also a board game in development. The last word being main one because Konami has been shitting the bed as of late, though the new management seems to be least smart enough to pawn their work off on third party devs.

	==Characters==		==Characters==

63.193.173.168: /* Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty */

2023-06-07T08:03:26Z

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

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	Of course most people in their twenties, even fresh military recruits, are not obviously going to be anything like Solid Snake. But it seems that Kojima and Fukushima don't realize or have forgotten [[Isekai\| how shitty the tastes of most teenagers and twenty year olds actually are.]]		Of course most people in their twenties, even fresh military recruits, are not obviously going to be anything like Solid Snake. But it seems that Kojima and Fukushima don't realize or have forgotten [[Isekai\| how shitty the tastes of most teenagers and twenty year olds actually are.]]

	Also most people in the west unlike those in Asia. Think leaving plot threads open for ~~an announced~~ sequel as a sign of laziness, opposite of a large franchise such as the [[Marvel_Comics#Marvel_Cinematic_Universe\|Marvel Cinematic Universe]]. Whose writers and producers actually planned ahead, even in the case of their most famous director leaving for his own projects.		Also most people in the west unlike those in Asia. Think leaving plot threads open for non existent sequel as a sign of laziness, opposite of a large franchise such as the [[Marvel_Comics#Marvel_Cinematic_Universe\|Marvel Cinematic Universe]]. Whose writers and producers actually planned ahead, even in the case of their most famous director leaving for his own projects.

	===Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater===		===Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater===

1d4chan>Ow, My Sanity.: /* Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots */

2022-07-30T08:52:18Z

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

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	*Sunny Gurlukovich, the daughter that Olga mentioned back in MGS2, now under the protection of Snake and Otacon.		*Sunny Gurlukovich, the daughter that Olga mentioned back in MGS2, now under the protection of Snake and Otacon.

	To wrap up Kojima's decade-long fever dream: Big Mama dies attempting to save Big Boss's husk from being burned to ash, Vamp dies after being heavily wounded by Raiden and ~~put down~~, Naomi dies after being guilt-tripped by Vamp's death, Snake manages to upload a computer virus that finally destroys the Patriots for real (but their influence continues on) and manages to kill Ocelot for real after one of the most nostalgia-drilling fist-fights in the series. Meryl and Johnny get married, Campbell and Rose reveal that their relationship was a play to keep the Patriots thinking that Raiden's kid was Campbell's, and Snake ~~eats~~ a bullet.		To wrap up Kojima's decade-long fever dream: Big Mama dies attempting to save Big Boss's husk from being burned to ash, Vamp dies after being heavily wounded by Raiden and injected with a nanomachine suppressor, Naomi dies after being guilt-tripped by Vamp's death, Snake manages to upload a computer virus that finally destroys the Patriots for real (but their influence continues on) and manages to kill Ocelot for real after one of the most nostalgia-drilling fist-fights in the series. Meryl and Johnny get married, Campbell and Rose reveal that their relationship was a play to keep the Patriots thinking that Raiden's kid was Campbell's, and Snake goes to The Boss's grave to eat a bullet before he involuntarily kills everyone.

	No he doesn't. Big Boss stops him and reveals that he's not dead (obviously) and the corpse that EVA died for was actually Solidus, whose limbs were removed and transplanted onto him when he was revivified. ~~With~~ the Patriots ~~defeated~~ and Major Zero'~~s plug pulled~~, Big Boss ~~allows~~ himself to succumb to FOXDIE ~~and Snake lives on~~.		Except he doesn't: Big Boss stops him and reveals that he's not dead (obviously) and the corpse that EVA died for was actually Solidus, whose limbs were removed and transplanted onto him when he was revivified. He has a long heart-to-heart with his clone-son and reveals a lot of exposition: he and several of the MGS3 crew were founding members of the Patriots, aiming to fulfil The Boss's wishes, only for shit to go wrong and metastasize into the globe-spanning conspiracy they are today; he and Major Zero (now a comatose, crippled old man on life support) are the last surviving members in a world without a place for them. It also turns out that Drebin 893 (a shady arms dealer you've been buying weapons from throughout the game) injected Snake with a newer variant of FOXDIE, made by the Patriots to kill Big Mama, Liquid Ocelot, and Big Boss; this uprooted the old one, so Snake can live the final year or two of life he has left without fear of turning into a walking WMD.

			Big Boss pulls the plug on Zero's life support, then salutes his mentor's grave as he gives Snake a few final fatherly words of wisdom before allowing himself to succumb to FOXDIE. [[Awesome\|"This is good... isn't it?"]]

	===Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker===		===Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker===

2600:1702:4180:1250:A002:4BE6:1AD0:32B3: /* Ocelot */

2022-05-08T04:17:06Z

Ocelot

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	===Ocelot===		===Ocelot===
	A Russian gunslinger and a guy with a LOT of mixed loyalties that make no sense when you think about it. Formerly a member of GRU (the Soviet Military's version of the civilian KGB) and a secret agent for the USA, Ocelot joined with Big Boss (due to a combination of charisma and because Ocelot has a major crush on Big Boss, bordering on actual romance.), helping him in secret despite nominally being a member of the Patriots (and later deciding to destroy them, for Big Boss' sake). Ocelot joined Liquid's rebellion, but only to act as the Patriot's inside man and steal the plans for Metal Gear REX, even though as the governing intelligence they would already have had them. He also manages to steal Metal Gear RAY, but at this point he starts acting out his secret plan to destroy the Patriots from within. How does he do this? Well....		A Russian gunslinger and a guy with a LOT of mixed loyalties that make no sense when you think about it. Formerly a member of GRU (the Soviet Military's version of the civilian KGB) and a secret agent for the USA, Ocelot joined with Big Boss (due to a combination of charisma and because Ocelot has a major crush on Big Boss, bordering on actual romance), helping him in secret despite nominally being a member of the Patriots (and later deciding to destroy them, for Big Boss' sake). Ocelot joined Liquid's rebellion, but only to act as the Patriot's inside man and steal the plans for Metal Gear REX, even though as the governing intelligence they would already have had them. He also manages to steal Metal Gear RAY, but at this point he starts acting out his secret plan to destroy the Patriots from within. How does he do this? Well....

	# [[What\|Pretend to be possessed by the ghost of Liquid]] and steal Metal Gear RAY which was later retconned into him using hypnosis to make himself think he's Liquid, which gives him all of Liquid's personalities and skills, because that's what happens in this universe (it's how Big Boss made his body double too).		# [[What\|Pretend to be possessed by the ghost of Liquid]] and steal Metal Gear RAY which was later retconned into him using hypnosis to make himself think he's Liquid, which gives him all of Liquid's personalities and skills, because that's what happens in this universe (it's how Big Boss made his body double too).

1d4chan>Valvatorez: /* Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty */

2022-04-18T15:26:34Z

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty

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	As many sources attest to. MGS2 was supposed to the magnum opus for Kojima and wanted to leave the series in the hands of younger developers. There are a few problems with this. Sons of Liberty would be the second game for most players. As the eight bit games were never released internationally until 2005.(other than a shitty port of MG1 and a really bad third person shooter on the NES) Making the game's twists feel forced and unearned. Another problem is that players got vastly different dubs. Not just language but Solidus and Olga have the same voice actors as Snake and Meryl. Talking no differently from their roles in MGS1. The devs also despised the changes that improved English dub of the game and refused to let it happen again. Disrespecting their larger audience who can't even play the Japanese version of MGS2.		As many sources attest to. MGS2 was supposed to the magnum opus for Kojima and wanted to leave the series in the hands of younger developers. There are a few problems with this. Sons of Liberty would be the second game for most players. As the eight bit games were never released internationally until 2005.(other than a shitty port of MG1 and a really bad third person shooter on the NES) Making the game's twists feel forced and unearned. Another problem is that players got vastly different dubs. Not just language but Solidus and Olga have the same voice actors as Snake and Meryl. Talking no differently from their roles in MGS1. The devs also despised the changes that improved English dub of the game and refused to let it happen again. Disrespecting their larger audience who can't even play the Japanese version of MGS2.

	So again, despite being a fanboy of America. It's Kojima fault for not realizing that [[derp\|Japan has different values]] from the rest of the world. He and his staff didn't understand how western culture views things. As Raiden comes off as a poor man's Shinji Ikari for most of the game. [[fail\|Another large problem is that one of the translators is a racist Karen who now whines about the MeToo movement.]]		So again, despite being a fanboy of America. It's Kojima fault for not realizing that [[derp\|Japan has different values]] from the rest of the world. He and his staff didn't understand how western culture views things(and possibly still doesn't). As Raiden comes off as a poor man's Shinji Ikari for most of the game. So it came off to western players as one of many ripoffs of [[Neon_Genesis_Evangelion\|Evangelion]]. [[fail\|Another large problem is that one of the translators is a racist Karen who now whines about the MeToo movement and sues people when she is caught lying.]]

	Another issue is that America wasn't bad off and didn't have the shitty economy Japan had in 2001 until 2007. Nor did big social media websites exist at the time to unwittingly assist in spreading conspiracy theories and accelerate the decline even further. [[Neckbeards\|Geekdom]] also didn't accept anime otaku culture as they do now. It also blames no in particular for these problems. As Japanese culture has the rather dumb ass view of not shitting on the flaws of your enemy. [[Star Trek\| Thus falling on its face compared to more successful franchises.]]		Another issue is that America wasn't bad off and didn't have the shitty economy Japan had in 2001 until 2007. Nor did big social media websites exist at the time to unwittingly assist in spreading conspiracy theories and accelerate the decline even further. [[Neckbeards\|Geekdom]] also didn't accept anime otaku culture as they do now. It also blames no in particular for these problems. As Japanese culture has the rather dumb ass view of not shitting on the flaws of your enemy. [[Star Trek\| Thus falling on its face compared to more successful franchises.]]

2600:1700:91C1:A4E0:E176:18CD:BDED:D436 at 04:49, 13 February 2022

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	A lot of things about Metal Gear correlate with the interests of fa/tg/uys. Despite what most people think, /tg/ loves their [[tau\|giant]] [[Adeptus Evangelion\|robots]], which Metal Gear Solid has in spades. There's also a good enough amount of both [[grimdark]] and [[Orks\|hilarious stupidity]] to keep a wide variety of neckbeards entertained.		A lot of things about Metal Gear correlate with the interests of fa/tg/uys. Despite what most people think, /tg/ loves their [[tau\|giant]] [[Adeptus Evangelion\|robots]], which Metal Gear Solid has in spades. There's also a good enough amount of both [[grimdark]] and [[Orks\|hilarious stupidity]] to keep a wide variety of neckbeards entertained.

	There was a limited edition version of [[Risk]] with Metal Gear tappings. However it is out print and now costs more to buy than any of the games alone. Because Konami is [[what\|even dumber]] than [[Games Workshop]].		There was a limited edition version of [[Risk]] with Metal Gear tappings. However it is out of print and now costs more to buy than any of the games alone. Because Konami is [[what\|even dumber]] than [[Games Workshop]].

	==Characters==		==Characters==

2600:1700:E88A:5410:498E:7CCA:42F5:8966: /* Metal Gear and /tg/ */

2022-02-13T04:34:18Z

Metal Gear and /tg/

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	A lot of things about Metal Gear correlate with the interests of fa/tg/uys. Despite what most people think, /tg/ loves their [[tau\|giant]] [[Adeptus Evangelion\|robots]], which Metal Gear Solid has in spades. There's also a good enough amount of both [[grimdark]] and [[Orks\|hilarious stupidity]] to keep a wide variety of neckbeards entertained.		A lot of things about Metal Gear correlate with the interests of fa/tg/uys. Despite what most people think, /tg/ loves their [[tau\|giant]] [[Adeptus Evangelion\|robots]], which Metal Gear Solid has in spades. There's also a good enough amount of both [[grimdark]] and [[Orks\|hilarious stupidity]] to keep a wide variety of neckbeards entertained.

	There was a limited edition version of [[Risk]] with Metal Gear tappings. However it is out print and now costs more to buy than any of the games alone. Because Konami is even dumber than [[Games Workshop]].		There was a limited edition version of [[Risk]] with Metal Gear tappings. However it is out print and now costs more to buy than any of the games alone. Because Konami is [[what\|even dumber]] than [[Games Workshop]].

	==Characters==		==Characters==

98.181.233.7 at 19:53, 4 February 2022

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	===Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance===		===Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance===
	Set four years after Guns of the Patriots, Revengeace is a completely different beast from any other Metal Gear game. First off, you play as Raiden for the entire game instead of Snake or Big Boss. Second, since this game was developed by Platinum Games instead of Konami, [[Flesh Tearers\|stealth is mostly thrown out the window for glorious carnage]] (you can still try to use stealth when it's applicable to make the game easier, as enemies are vulnerable to insta-kills while you're undetected, but nothing's stopping you from just going in and murderfucking everyone.). And third, the stupid over-the-top tropes Metal Gear Solid was known for are hitched up to eleven. Seriously, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=~~bfpeFE4QhU0~~\| look at this shit.] That's the equivalent of tossing around a [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)\| Warhound Scout Titan]] like a rag doll.		Set four years after Guns of the Patriots, Revengeace is a completely different beast from any other Metal Gear game. First off, you play as Raiden for the entire game instead of Snake or Big Boss. Second, since this game was developed by Platinum Games instead of Konami, [[Flesh Tearers\|stealth is mostly thrown out the window for glorious carnage]] (you can still try to use stealth when it's applicable to make the game easier, as enemies are vulnerable to insta-kills while you're undetected, but nothing's stopping you from just going in and murderfucking everyone.). And third, the stupid over-the-top tropes Metal Gear Solid was known for are hitched up to eleven. Seriously, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM33Hr94SKw\| look at this shit.] That's the equivalent of tossing around a [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)\| Warhound Scout Titan]] like a rag doll.

	Long story short, Raiden receives a far more powerful cyborg body and is sent to eliminate Desperado; an off-shoot faction of the Patriots led by U.S Senator Armstrong, known for the "Nanomachines, son" [[meme]] and the most patriotic villain ever known. Besides that the plot is pretty much nonexistent, with Raiden running around and pretty much being the living avatar of [[rip and tear\|RIP N' TEAR]]. The plot though did have some really funny moments where Raiden discovered the villains plan to create an army, kidnap children from third-world countries, put their brains in jars, have them remote control robots/cyborgs, and once they were skilled enough put their brains in those bodies so that they could get killed on the battlefield, not to mention there's a part where Raiden just lets a bunch of children die because he's too busy posing to help them out. Much like most of the series, this plan is doomed to failure before it starts when you realize that there's already a far better alternative in the form of nanomachines that make you invincible, they only stop working when it's plot convenient. It also regresses Raidens' character a bit (because much like every MGS sequel, the theme of the previous games are ignored), but nobody really gave a shit about that because of all the over-the-top ninja bullshit he constantly pulls off.		Long story short, Raiden receives a far more powerful cyborg body and is sent to eliminate Desperado; an off-shoot faction of the Patriots led by U.S Senator Armstrong, known for the "Nanomachines, son" [[meme]] and the most patriotic villain ever known. Besides that the plot is pretty much nonexistent, with Raiden running around and pretty much being the living avatar of [[rip and tear\|RIP N' TEAR]]. The plot though did have some really funny moments where Raiden discovered the villains plan to create an army, kidnap children from third-world countries, put their brains in jars, have them remote control robots/cyborgs, and once they were skilled enough put their brains in those bodies so that they could get killed on the battlefield, not to mention there's a part where Raiden just lets a bunch of children die because he's too busy posing to help them out. Much like most of the series, this plan is doomed to failure before it starts when you realize that there's already a far better alternative in the form of nanomachines that make you invincible, they only stop working when it's plot convenient. It also regresses Raidens' character a bit (because much like every MGS sequel, the theme of the previous games are ignored), but nobody really gave a shit about that because of all the over-the-top ninja bullshit he constantly pulls off.