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	==Crunch==		==Crunch==
	[[File:ChaosMutilatorsModels.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|<center>The official models and yes, [[Derp\|they have aged poorly.]] Well painted, though.</center>]]		[[File:ChaosMutilatorsModels.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|<center>The official models and yes, [[Derp\|they have aged poorly.]] Well painted, though.</center>]]
	[[Phil Kelly\|The guy that wrote this codex]] has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were [[Counts As#Mandrakes\|generally to almost]] [[Warp Talons\|entirely useless]] versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:		[[Phil Kelly\|The guy that wrote this codex]] has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were [[Counts As#Mandrakes\|generally to almost]] [[Warp Talons\|entirely useless]] versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:

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	====CONS====		====CONS====
	*They have Slow and Purposeful, which robs them of running and sweeping advance to grant them Relentless, which they don't need because...		*They have Slow and Purposeful, which robs them of running and sweeping advance to grant them Relentless, which they don't need because...
	*They have no ranged weapons - so ...		*They have no ranged weapons - so...
	*Deep-striking these guys will will open them up to a volley of fire without any sort of counter-attack, compounded by the fact that . . .		*Deep-striking these guys will will open them up to a volley of fire without any sort of counter-attack, compounded by the fact that . . .
	*Unit size is capped at 3 models max!		*Unit size is capped at 3 models max!
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	===Conclusion===		===Conclusion===
	On the whole, a unit that is very limited in its combat usage but for its cost pretty dang tough, and outright solid with the Mark of Nurgle. If used as a typical combat threat, the unit will generally perform poorly - it lacks speed, it has no shooting for pre-combat and it doesn't even have grenades. Instead, by making the most of its Deep-Striking capacity and combined great tough-to-cost ratio and combat flexibility, a a single Mutilator with the Mark of Nurgle can act as a cheap, easy-to-deep-strike, annoyingly-tough-to-kill distraction.		On the whole, a unit that is very limited in its combat usage but for its cost pretty dang tough, and outright solid with the Mark of Nurgle. If used as a typical combat threat, the unit will generally perform poorly - it lacks speed, it has no shooting for pre-combat and it doesn't even have grenades. Instead, by making the most of its Deep-Striking capacity and combined great tough-to-cost ratio and combat flexibility, a a single Mutilator with the Mark of Nurgle can act as a cheap, easy-to-deep-strike, annoyingly-tough-to-kill distraction.

	Does your enemy waste plasma and las fire, railguns, Vindicator rounds et al removing a single two-wound model? Or does he ignore it and let it get away with grarbling squishy backfield units in melee and/or ripping and tearing fortifications and [[Basilisk]]s new anuses? Does your enemy disrupt its carefully layed-out battle lines, possibly wasting turns of fire for units with heavy, salvo and ordnance weapons to avoid this one guy? And as for the potential user, one must ask: is this cheaper, more disposable and just as effective as a trio of [[Terminator]]s? Will your opponents allow you to use an Oblit with the guns magnetized off as a counts-as? Why not find out for yourself?		Does your enemy waste plasma and las fire, railguns, Vindicator rounds et al removing a single two-wound model? Or does he ignore it and let it get away with grarbling squishy backfield units in melee and/or ripping and tearing fortifications and [[Basilisk]]s new anuses? Does your enemy disrupt its carefully layed-out battle lines, possibly wasting turns of fire for units with heavy, salvo and ordnance weapons to avoid this one guy? And as for the potential user, one must ask: is this cheaper, more disposable and just as effective as a trio of [[Terminator]]s? Will your opponents allow you to use an Oblit with the guns magnetized off as a counts-as? Why not find out for yourself?

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	===9th edition===		===9th edition===
	<s>Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster<s> They were cut and are ~~not~~ longer available. Sad for the 6 people who bought them, but all ~~was~~ in ~~favour~~ of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, ''Unrelenting Firepower'' that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within ''Engagement Range''. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.		<s>Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster</s> They were cut and are no longer available on CSM Codex 9th ed. Sad for the 6 people who bought them, but all were in favor of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, ''Unrelenting Firepower'' that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within ''Engagement Range''. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.

	==Alternative Modeling Options==		==Alternative Modeling Options==

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	===9th edition===		===9th edition===
	Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster in favour of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, ''Unrelenting Firepower'' that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within ''Engagement Range''. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.		<s>Rumours abound that Mutilators are getting cut from the roster<s> They were cut and are not longer available. Sad for the 6 people who bought them, but all was in favour of improvements to, well, the rest of the lineup. Not a terrible loss considering they weren't exactly a popular choice. Since Obliterators get four Power Fist attacks, ''Unrelenting Firepower'' that allows them to move with no penalty after firing their Fleshmetal Guns and shoot within ''Engagement Range''. There was really no loss by squatting Mutilators.

	==Alternative Modeling Options==		==Alternative Modeling Options==

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	==Crunch==		==Crunch==
	[[File:ChaosMutilatorsModels.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|<center>The official models and yes, they have aged poorly. Well painted, though.</center>]]		[[File:ChaosMutilatorsModels.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\|<center>The official models and yes, [[Derp\|they have aged poorly.]] Well painted, though.</center>]]
	[[Phil Kelly\|The guy that wrote this codex]] has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were [[Counts As#Mandrakes\|generally to almost]] [[Warp Talons\|entirely useless]] versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:		[[Phil Kelly\|The guy that wrote this codex]] has some interesting ideas when it comes to internal codex balance. For example, his most celebrated work, Codex Dark Eldar in 5th edition had a handful of units that were [[Counts As#Mandrakes\|generally to almost]] [[Warp Talons\|entirely useless]] versus transparently better choices. Mutilators certainly give off an aura of the former - let's take a closer look at them:

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PROS

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	*Daemon (5++ and causes fear, but vulnerable to Grey Knight shibozzle)		*Daemon (5++ and causes fear, but vulnerable to Grey Knight shibozzle)
	*Deep Strike		*Deep Strike
	*Come with the following weapon pairs: [[Power sword]]/[[Power Axe\|axe]]/[[Power Weapon#Power Maul\|mace]], [[Chainfist]], [[Lightning ~~Claw~~]], which cannot be used twice in a row (the Chainfist is straight-up better than the axes and the Claws for the swords, so they're just back-ups for protacted combats)		*Come with the following weapon pairs: [[Power sword]]/[[Power Axe\|axe]]/[[Power Weapon#Power Maul\|mace]], [[Chainfist]], [[Lightning Claws]], which cannot be used twice in a row (the Chainfist is straight-up better than the axes and the Claws for the swords, so they're just back-ups for protacted combats)
	*Fairly inexpensive at 55 pts./model		*Fairly inexpensive at 55 pts./model
	Access to the full gamut of Marks of Chaos, at a slightly more expensive cost than the norm. While Slaanesh is useless, Khorne and Tzeentch are alright and Nurgle is amazing* as it prevents Krak missiles and lascannons from IDing them		Access to the full gamut of Marks of Chaos, at a slightly more expensive cost than the norm. While Slaanesh is useless, Khorne and Tzeentch are alright and Nurgle is amazing* as it prevents Krak missiles and lascannons from IDing them