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1d4chan>Flutist: /* Corpse Grinder Cults */ Yes, they really are terrifying

2023-02-28T17:47:36Z

Corpse Grinder Cults: Yes, they really are terrifying

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	===Corpse Grinder Cults===		===Corpse Grinder Cults===

	Aka Sausage Men. In pursuit to create a melee gang, Specialist Games ~~seemingly (as this anon hasn't really played a campaign with those yet)~~ unleashed unholy abominations upon the unsuspecting world. Their <s>crimes against balance</s> unique things include:		Aka Sausage Men. In pursuit to create a melee gang, Specialist Games unleashed unholy abominations upon the unsuspecting world. Their <s>crimes against balance</s> unique things include:
	Masks that give each member +1 to their save (bar the leader, he has 6++) and make you take Willpower test to shoot or fight their Leader or Champion, effectively decreasing your chance of hurting them ''in half'' even before your start shooting. Oh, and you can add an Undersuit on top of that, it stacks. '''FUN'''		Masks that give each member +1 to their save (bar the leader, he has 6++) and make you take Willpower test to shoot or fight their Leader or Champion, effectively decreasing your chance of hurting them ''in half'' even before your start shooting. Oh, and you can add an Undersuit on top of that, it stacks. '''FUN'''
	*Juves with ganger stats and with Infiltrate wrapped in a gift package for 25 points (you know, the cost of an Armored Undersuit already included in their cost,see above). Unlike other gangs, you must have fewer Skinners (~~gangers~~) than Initiates (Juves), not the other way around. Sure, they're the only one with access to shooting weapons in the band, so they have no weapon restrictions, buuuut...		*Juves with ganger stats and with Infiltrate wrapped in a gift package for 25 points (you know, the cost of an Armored Undersuit already included in their cost,see above). Unlike other gangs, you must have fewer Skinners (Gangers) than Initiates (Juves), not the other way around. Sure, they're the only one with access to shooting weapons in the band, so they have no weapon restrictions, buuuut...
	*Due to bad wording, the limitation on trading post applies only during an Uprising campaign. Any weapon can be given to Initiate and Infiltrated whenever one wants.		*Due to bad wording, the limitation on trading post applies only during an Uprising campaign. Any weapon can be given to Initiate and Infiltrated whenever one wants.
	*Special "paired" weapons that double the number of Attacks in your profile on charge on top of giving +1 for two weapons. That's 6 attacks on charge per Leader/Champion.		*Special "paired" weapons that double the number of Attacks in your profile on charge on top of giving +1 for two weapons. That's 6 attacks on charge per Leader/Champion.
	*They have a thing called [[Rape\|Boning Sword]], also available on the Trading Post now. This is a Melee weapon that costs 20 points, has AP of -2 and '''D2''' while simultaneously having Parry and Rending. That totally blows regular sword out of the water as it costs the same.		*They have a thing called [[Rape\|Boning Sword]], also available on the Trading Post now. This is a Melee weapon that costs 20 points, has AP of -2 and '''D2''' while simultaneously having Parry and Rending. That totally blows regular sword out of the water as it costs the same.
	*They have a limited number of Champions (0-3). However, it also doesn't matter, as with right combination of tactics cards, weapon choices and stimm-slug ~~stash~~ those charge '''12+3d3 inches''' (made worse with leader - 14+d6+2d3). Need I remind one doesn't need LoS to Charge in the Underhive?		*They have a limited number of Champions (0-3). However, it also doesn't matter, as with right combination of tactics cards, weapon choices and stimm-slug stashes those charge '''12+3d3 inches''' (made worse with leader - 14+d6+2d3). Need I remind one doesn't need LoS to Charge in the Underhive?
	~~That~~, ~~and other little things~~, ~~make~~ Grinders ~~literal pay-to-win gang~~.		To give you the scope of the problem, the same way Van Saars are THE shooting gang, Corpse Grinders are THE melee one. Everyone else simply fall short in that regard.

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2A04:4A43:553F:B93E:0:0:5FB:A702: /* Enforcers */

2023-02-13T16:01:44Z

Enforcers

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	*'''Enforcer Boltgun''' – It doesn’t get more basic than the boltgun. The Enforcer variety comes with a 4+ ammo roll instead of the stock 6+. Additionally, it’s 5 credits cheaper than the stock bolter. Bolters are great in Necromunda, and this will be your go-to for the majority of your enforcers. Sadly it’s effectiveness is somewhat hampered by 4+ bs.		*'''Enforcer Boltgun''' – It doesn’t get more basic than the boltgun. The Enforcer variety comes with a 4+ ammo roll instead of the stock 6+. Additionally, it’s 5 credits cheaper than the stock bolter. Bolters are great in Necromunda, and this will be your go-to for the majority of your enforcers. Sadly it’s effectiveness is somewhat hampered by 4+ bs.

	*'''Enforcer Shotgun''' – This is a re-named combat shotgun no more no less. Even price is the same. Short range is a problem (hint: Hip Shooting).		*'''Enforcer Shotgun''' – This is a re-named combat shotgun no more no less. Even price is the same. Short range is a problem (hint: Hip Shooting). Also cannot take Firestorm ammunition like the regular Combat Shotgun from the Trading post so it's S2 template will struggle against tougher warbands.

	*'''Subjugation Pattern Grenade Launcher''' – A re-named grenade launcher. It carries frag and stun grenades, but additional types are available.		*'''Subjugation Pattern Grenade Launcher''' – A re-named grenade launcher. It carries frag and stun grenades, but additional types are available.
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	'''Special Weapons'''		'''Special Weapons'''

	*'''Concussion Carbine''' – This weapon is situational but interesting. For 30 credits you get an 18” frag grenade launcher that auto-pins, knocks back, and has AP -1. This is an useful and relatively cheap weapon that somewhat mitigates meh BS of an Enforcer squad. It’s effectiveness is limited by its short range and fact that its most useful for throwing enemies off the ridges or into the pits... if enforcer is able to hit with it in a right way that is.		*'''Concussion Carbine''' – This weapon is situational but interesting. For 30 credits you get an 18” frag grenade launcher that auto-pins, knocks back, drops the targets initiative by -2 and has AP -1. This is an useful and relatively cheap weapon that somewhat mitigates meh BS of an Enforcer squad. It’s effectiveness is limited by its short range and fact that its most useful for throwing enemies off the ridges or into the pits... if enforcer is able to hit with it in a right way that is.
			It's concussion special rule which reduces the targets initiative also combines well with Photon Flash Grenades and Magnacles should you use them.

	*'''Sniper Rifle''' – Basically long rifle. Enforcers are almost entirely based around short- to mid-ranged shooting, so including one or two of these in a squad will drastically improve enforcers range. Or go full bananas and make this baby a weapon of choice, as it costs less than a Bolter by 15 points. Don't try it in ZM, of course. Possibility of good combo with overwatch on Sergeants with Infra-sights.		*'''Sniper Rifle''' – Basically long rifle. Enforcers are almost entirely based around short- to mid-ranged shooting, so including one or two of these in a squad will drastically improve enforcers range. Or go full bananas and make this baby a weapon of choice, as it costs less than a Bolter by 15 points. Don't try it in ZM, of course. Possibility of good combo with overwatch on Sergeants with Infra-sights.

202.160.36.16: /* Van Saar */

2022-11-03T15:32:24Z

Van Saar

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	===Van Saar===		===Van Saar===

	Van Saar [pronounced Van Say-ar] are the neo-Dutch pale bearded long range option, as their radiation filled suits have shrivelled their insides to the bone they can be challenging in close combat which they are not prepared for but don't let that dissuade you though as they are a very fun gang to play if you play them small and over equipped (and a pure cheese if you take 8 of them in 1000pts roster, exploiting your Champions' 2+ BS). Create a gunline of 3 or 4 so you can continue laying down fire and hiding in dark environments, flank with you rad launcher, give some of them rad grenades (those things are OP), give another champion a plasma gun or better yet, a plasma cannon with suspensor (which sits very conveniently in Van Saars' equipment) and give juves a set of carbine pistols and have them run about drawing fire or coup de gracing seriously injured. These guys should terrify ~~you~~ opponent with sheer gunfire and the ability to survive in all environments. Probably the strongest gang in the game right know, rocking so much firepower you won't be able to do anything against them. Also, paint them black with glowing red goggles for the extra cool factor.		Van Saar [pronounced Van Say-ar] are the neo-Dutch pale bearded long range option, as their radiation filled suits have shrivelled their insides to the bone they can be challenging in close combat which they are not prepared for but don't let that dissuade you though as they are a very fun gang to play if you play them small and over equipped (and a pure cheese if you take 8 of them in 1000pts roster, exploiting your Champions' 2+ BS). Create a gunline of 3 or 4 so you can continue laying down fire and hiding in dark environments, flank with you rad launcher, give some of them rad grenades (those things are OP), give another champion a plasma gun or better yet, a plasma cannon with suspensor (which sits very conveniently in Van Saars' equipment) and give juves a set of carbine pistols and have them run about drawing fire or coup de gracing seriously injured. These guys should terrify your opponent with sheer gunfire and the ability to survive in all environments. Probably the strongest gang in the game right know, rocking so much firepower you won't be able to do anything against them. Also, paint them black with glowing red goggles for the extra cool factor.

	===Cawdor===		===Cawdor===

86.28.112.84: /* Enforcers */

2022-10-27T20:58:51Z

Enforcers

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	*'''Shock stave''' – 25 credits for +1 Strength, shock, and versatile. Best choice if someone is going for cc.		*'''Shock stave''' – 25 credits for +1 Strength, shock, and versatile. Best choice if someone is going for cc.
	*'''Vigilance Pattern Assault Shield''' – This is the same as a van saar energy shield. If you’re planning on making a melee-heavy Enforcer squad, this is the weapon for you. Sadly there are none of those on the sprue. And since you don’t want Enforcers to be in cc due to their stats and skills this is basically a very expensive way to get +1 AS or +2 AS in cc.		*'''Vigilance Pattern Assault Shield''' – This is the same as a van saar energy shield. If you’re planning on making a melee-heavy Enforcer squad, this is the weapon for you. Sadly there are none of those on the sprue. And since you don’t want Enforcers to be in cc due to their stats and skills this is basically a very expensive way to get +1 AS or +2 AS in cc.

			'''Exotic Pet'''
			*'''Hardcase Cyber Mastiff''' - Added to draw attention to one line in the FW Character Pack, Scrutinator-Primus Servalen. The Hardcase Cyber Mastiff is not exclusive to Servalen and is added to the Enforcer House Equipment List at 0-2. And this pupper is worth paying attention to, the Hardcase is a beast! Coming in at 70 credits, it has Light Carapace and a Respirator, 3+ WS and Threat Response. It has Tenacious (even if killed, will still take an action before being removed) and prevents Coup De Grace actions against it's owner. Compared to other Exotic Pets, this is a steal; the Orlock Mastiff is 100 credits and comes with a fraction of the extras. While the Hardcase won't win you a game alone, this is the CC upgrade to get for when that Goliath Stimmer charges your gunline and threatens to kill everything.

	===Corpse Grinder Cults===		===Corpse Grinder Cults===

47.24.139.76: /* Pox Walkers */ This has sat here for like, literal years. I think the time has passed.

2021-03-04T02:11:45Z

Pox Walkers: This has sat here for like, literal years. I think the time has passed.

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	You gangers can buy house connections to get access to their respective weapons and price lists - one house per ganger, but you can mix and match.		You gangers can buy house connections to get access to their respective weapons and price lists - one house per ganger, but you can mix and match.
	Diversity is key as the House gangs are more cost-effective for their specific strategies.		Diversity is key as the House gangs are more cost-effective for their specific strategies.

	~~===Pox Walkers===~~

	~~No, you didn't miss anything, there are no rules for them but will await the inevitable WD rule release in the future!~~

	===Enforcers===		===Enforcers===

144.124.99.119: /* Goliath */

2021-02-12T14:32:37Z

Goliath

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	===Goliath===		===Goliath===

	A Goliath's primary strength is, literally his strength. And his toughness. They hit harder than any other house gang, and are harder to hurt than anyone else. Their biggest weakness apart from the weapons included on their sprues is getting close enough to make it matter so you will need cover fire or smoke grenades. Advances in movement will count for more than further advances in strength or toughness. Similarly, tactics cards that get them ''to'' combat are more important than tactics that will improve them ''in'' combat - they are badass enough already. A Goliath with his fists will often tear another gangers head clean off. Goliaths aren't actually ''bad'' at shooting, so it will probably help to have at least some dudes providing covering fire, but their starting weaponry is mostly pretty short range, and for something like a combat shotgun, you might be better off just charging at that stage anyway. With the new gang war updates, spamming grenade launchers can be a great way to lose friends really quickly as they rage quit and throw a tantrum at all their heavy weapons being taken out by the second round, other gangs are wussies anyway. The "Krumper"? ...no, don't bother. A heavy stubber or two might help lay down some much-needed support, but do you really want to hold champions back from combat? ...yes you do so the rest of your gang doesn't get pinned by Escher lasgun spam (your Champions have access to Nerves of Steel, ensuring they reach the close combat. Just don't let others charge you - even a Juve with a Stiletto knife is a mortal danger). Remember, stub pistol with dumdums, stub cannon an heavy stubber.		A Goliath's primary strength is, literally his strength. And his toughness. They hit harder than any other house gang, and are harder to hurt than anyone else. Their biggest weakness apart from the weapons included on their sprues is getting close enough to make it matter so you will need cover fire or smoke grenades. Advances in movement will count for more than further advances in strength or toughness. Similarly, tactics cards that get them ''to'' combat are more important than tactics that will improve them ''in'' combat - they are badass enough already. A Goliath with his fists will often tear another gangers head clean off. Goliaths aren't actually ''bad'' at shooting, so it will probably help to have at least some dudes providing covering fire, but their starting weaponry is mostly pretty short range, and for something like a combat shotgun, you might be better off just charging at that stage anyway. With the new gang war updates, spamming grenade launchers can be a great way to lose friends really quickly as they rage quit and throw a tantrum at all their heavy weapons being taken out by the second round, other gangs are wussies anyway. The "Krumper"? ...no, don't bother. A heavy stubber or two might help lay down some much-needed support, but do you really want to hold champions back from combat? ...yes you do so the rest of your gang doesn't get pinned by Escher lasgun spam (your Champions have access to Nerves of Steel, ensuring they reach the close combat. Just don't let others charge you - even a Juve with a Stiletto knife is a mortal danger). Remember, stub pistol with dumdums, stub cannon and heavy stubber.

	===Escher===		===Escher===

2A02:C7F:A48D:6200:C583:DBC2:97DC:30EA: /* Enforcers */

2020-12-27T15:14:51Z

Enforcers

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	Their main problem, as mentioned, is cost, but after a few games with Intrigues enabled you'd be swimming in credits.		Their main problem, as mentioned, is cost, but after a few games with Intrigues enabled you'd be swimming in credits.

	'''Alternative take:''' While having a gang full of bolters is nice and hits like a truck, a 'pacifist' Enforcer gang is possible. You can load up your grenade launchers with photon flash grenades, that denies an activation on a failed Initiative check, and run concussion carbines on your standard Enforcers; that ~~lower~~ the target's initiative rolls. Then close in with some bodies armed with riot shields and handcuff some ganger scum to deny more activations. Not all that effective against Escher without serious prep (and a bit of luck), but can lead to your Enforcers having more activations than a gang that outnumbers you, making up for your mediocre statline. Grab a gravgun from the trading post in the later game and you can really punish an opponent for bad positioning and control their side of the board.		'''Alternative take:''' While having a gang full of bolters is nice and hits like a truck, a 'pacifist' Enforcer gang is possible. You can load up your grenade launchers with photon flash grenades, that denies an activation on a failed Initiative check, and run concussion carbines on your standard Enforcers; that lowers the target's initiative rolls. Then close in with some bodies armed with riot shields and handcuff some ganger scum to deny more activations. Not all that effective against Escher without serious prep (and a bit of luck), but can lead to your Enforcers having more activations than a gang that outnumbers you, making up for your mediocre statline. Grab a gravgun from the trading post in the later game and you can really punish an opponent for bad positioning and control their side of the board.

	'''Stats:''' Enforcers have the worst stat line in the entire game while being as expensive as Goliaths (most expensive gang model wise) models. Their leader is 3+ WS 4+ BS with 2 wounds and flak/armored undersuit while costing a whopping 140 cr. They are also only gang that has champions with WS and BS both on 4+. On top of that they can have only two champions ever. Bear in mind all your guys come stock with Armored Undersuit (25 credits), so that sweetens the pill somewhat. Yeah, so do the Van Saar, but they are OP as fuck.		'''Stats:''' Enforcers have the worst stat line in the entire game while being as expensive as Goliaths (most expensive gang model wise) models. Their leader is 3+ WS 4+ BS with 2 wounds and flak/armored undersuit while costing a whopping 140 cr. They are also only gang that has champions with WS and BS both on 4+. On top of that they can have only two champions ever. Bear in mind all your guys come stock with Armored Undersuit (25 credits), so that sweetens the pill somewhat. Yeah, so do the Van Saar, but they are OP as fuck.

2A02:C7F:A48D:6200:C583:DBC2:97DC:30EA: /* Enforcers */

2020-12-27T15:14:04Z

Enforcers

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	Their main problem, as mentioned, is cost, but after a few games with Intrigues enabled you'd be swimming in credits.		Their main problem, as mentioned, is cost, but after a few games with Intrigues enabled you'd be swimming in credits.

			'''Alternative take:''' While having a gang full of bolters is nice and hits like a truck, a 'pacifist' Enforcer gang is possible. You can load up your grenade launchers with photon flash grenades, that denies an activation on a failed Initiative check, and run concussion carbines on your standard Enforcers; that lower the target's initiative rolls. Then close in with some bodies armed with riot shields and handcuff some ganger scum to deny more activations. Not all that effective against Escher without serious prep (and a bit of luck), but can lead to your Enforcers having more activations than a gang that outnumbers you, making up for your mediocre statline. Grab a gravgun from the trading post in the later game and you can really punish an opponent for bad positioning and control their side of the board.

	'''Stats:''' Enforcers have the worst stat line in the entire game while being as expensive as Goliaths (most expensive gang model wise) models. Their leader is 3+ WS 4+ BS with 2 wounds and flak/armored undersuit while costing a whopping 140 cr. They are also only gang that has champions with WS and BS both on 4+. On top of that they can have only two champions ever. Bear in mind all your guys come stock with Armored Undersuit (25 credits), so that sweetens the pill somewhat. Yeah, so do the Van Saar, but they are OP as fuck.		'''Stats:''' Enforcers have the worst stat line in the entire game while being as expensive as Goliaths (most expensive gang model wise) models. Their leader is 3+ WS 4+ BS with 2 wounds and flak/armored undersuit while costing a whopping 140 cr. They are also only gang that has champions with WS and BS both on 4+. On top of that they can have only two champions ever. Bear in mind all your guys come stock with Armored Undersuit (25 credits), so that sweetens the pill somewhat. Yeah, so do the Van Saar, but they are OP as fuck.