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2001:8003:1C20:8C00:F211:A254:7DA9:FB24: /* Old Lore (pre-4th Edition) */

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	The little official info on their land army pretty much shows it as being the same as what real-life Japan had during the latter half of the Shogunate (arquebus wielding ashigeru, peasant foot soldiers, samurai and ninja etc.) plus, rocket artillery, magic sorcerers, magic kung-fu monks and...suicide bombers called Kamikaze. Out of all the possible magical creatures they could of had, for some reason Nippon only got Ki-Rin and Temple Dogs, which were shared with [[Cathay]].		The little official info on their land army pretty much shows it as being the same as what real-life Japan had during the latter half of the Shogunate (arquebus wielding ashigeru, peasant foot soldiers, samurai and ninja etc.) plus, rocket artillery, magic sorcerers, magic kung-fu monks and...suicide bombers called Kamikaze. Out of all the possible magical creatures they could of had, for some reason Nippon only got Ki-Rin and Temple Dogs, which were shared with [[Cathay]].

	There were almost no named characters in Nippon back then. "The tale of Sanyo Kawasaki" scenario told the story of a Samurai who had a [[Butthurt\|butthurt]] over the fact that the government [[Grimdark\|let a foreign ship pass near the Nipponese coast (not even landing there) and made no attempts to sink it]]. He gathered an army under the command of his retainers with similarly stupid names ([[Derp\|Honda Suzuki, everyone?]]) and marched to the capital, but failed to take it and ritually killed himself. This was the only Nipponese scenario before the squatting happened, by the way.		There were almost no named characters in Nippon back then. "The tale of Sanyo Kawasaki" scenario told the story of a Samurai who had a [[Butthurt\|butthurt]] over the fact that the government [[Grimdark\|let a foreign ship pass near the Nipponese coast (not even landing there) and made no attempts to sink it]]. He gathered an army under the command of his retainers with similarly stupid names ([[Derp\|Honda Suzuki, everyone?]]) and marched to the capital, but failed to take it and ritually killed himself [[Derp\|by standing on his head in a bowl of cold water]]. Yeah. This was the only Nipponese scenario before the squatting happened, by the way.

	[[Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné]] also apparently went there once. Probably. If she exists. Honestly, this wouldn't be worth mentioning except that we don't know shit about Nippon so it's like 5% of what we know.		[[Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné]] also apparently went there once. Probably. If she exists. Honestly, this wouldn't be worth mentioning except that we don't know shit about Nippon so it's like 5% of what we know.

1d4chan>Le0901: /* 2E */

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	In the 2e corebook, Nippon didn't get much lore to shine; most of the "Orientals" portion of the Human ethnic writeup was actually devoted to [[Cathay]], with Nippon just getting a few passing mentions - they have [[samurai]], death-seeking samurai [[berserker]]s called Kamikazes, and warrior-monks who practice a martial art called Vimto, sacred to a god called ''The Orange Simca'' and whose worship was common to both Nippon and [[Cathay]].		In the 2e corebook, Nippon didn't get much lore to shine; most of the "Orientals" portion of the Human ethnic writeup was actually devoted to [[Cathay]], with Nippon just getting a few passing mentions - they have [[samurai]], death-seeking samurai [[berserker]]s called Kamikazes, and warrior-monks who practice a martial art called Vimto, sacred to a god called ''The Orange Simca'' and whose worship was common to both Nippon and [[Cathay]].

	Nippon could at least claim superiority in one field; the ''Ravening Hordes'' army book featured a full Nippon army list, but had no such list for [[Cathay]] or [[Araby]]. In this edition, aside from the generic Heroes and Magicians, a Nipponese army could field Samurai, Samurai Cavalry, Regular Cavalry, Mounted Archers, Mounted Crossbowmen, Warrior Monks, Ashigaru, Archers, Crossbowmen, Arquebusiers, Peasants, [[Ninja]]s, Kamikaze Suicide Warriors (who in this edition are guys who run into enemy formations with a keg of gunpowder strapped to their back with a burning fuse), Skirmishers, Cannons, Rocket Launchers, Stone Throwers and Bolt Throwers. Also, they could take [[Ogre]]s and [[Giant]]s as mercenaries.		Nippon could at least claim superiority in one field; the ''Ravening Hordes'' army book featured a full Nippon army list, but had no such list for [[Cathay]] or [[Araby]]. In this edition, aside from the generic Heroes and Magicians, a Nipponese army could field Samurai, Samurai Cavalry, Regular Cavalry, Mounted Archers, Mounted Crossbowmen, Warrior Monks, Ashigaru, Archers, Crossbowmen, Arquebusiers, Peasants, [[Ninja]]s, Kamikaze Suicide Warriors (who in this edition are guys who run into enemy formations with a keg of [[Gunpowder (Warhammer Fantasy)\|gunpowder]] strapped to their back with a burning fuse), Skirmishers, Cannons, Rocket Launchers, Stone Throwers and Bolt Throwers. Also, they could take [[Ogre]]s and [[Giant]]s as mercenaries.

	Honestly? Pretty generic, but then, most of the armies in 2e were.		Honestly? Pretty generic, but then, most of the armies in 2e were.

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: /* 1E */

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	The 1e version of the Nippon force found in ''Forces of Fantasy''' names them as the '''Men of the Orient'''... which is a bit redundant since they'd already called the [[Araby]] forces "Men of the East".		The 1e version of the Nippon force found in ''Forces of Fantasy''' names them as the '''Men of the Orient'''... which is a bit redundant since they'd already called the [[Araby]] forces "Men of the East".

	In this edition, they have a fairly small army list; [[Samurai]] in infantry and cavalry forms, Ashiguru as regular troopers, Kamikazes (Samurai with Frenzy), and Vim-to Monks. They can also field Samurai Heroes, Martial Arts Heroes, and Vim-to Mages.		In this edition, they have a fairly small army list; [[Samurai]] in infantry and cavalry forms, Ashiguru as regular troopers, Kamikazes (Samurai with Frenzy), and Vim-to Monks (for the non-British; Vimto is a Coca-Cola-esque soft drink). They can also field Samurai Heroes, Martial Arts Heroes, and Vim-to Mages.

	===2E===		===2E===

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	'''Nippon''' is the Japan analogue of the [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] universe. It is an archipelago nation to east of [[Cathay]] (of course). Also, "Nippon" is literally the Japanese word for "Japan", [[Games Workshop\| because of course.]]		'''Nippon''' (日本) is the Japan analogue of the [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]] universe. It is an archipelago nation to east of [[Cathay]] (of course). Also, "Nippon" is literally the Japanese word for "Japan", [[Games Workshop\| because of course.]]

	== Meta-History ==		== Meta-History ==

1d4chan>QuietBrowser: Added something of an analysis/breakdown of Nippon's forces through Oldhammer, plus a stub section for the WAP army book.

2023-03-05T02:49:29Z

Added something of an analysis/breakdown of Nippon's forces through Oldhammer, plus a stub section for the WAP army book.

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	It turns out that Nippon exists in an [https://www.artstation.com/artwork/RngoLE Immortal Empires Cathayan map prototype], and is even mentioned in the notes as a '''Kingdom''' of Nippon, severely downplaying the status of this nation, it seems. Will it also mean that new Nippon can probably use a different Japanese history era? Probably not, but we'll see.		It turns out that Nippon exists in an [https://www.artstation.com/artwork/RngoLE Immortal Empires Cathayan map prototype], and is even mentioned in the notes as a '''Kingdom''' of Nippon, severely downplaying the status of this nation, it seems. Will it also mean that new Nippon can probably use a different Japanese history era? Probably not, but we'll see.

			==Nippon's Army Through The Ages==
			Rooted firmly in the days of Oldhammer, the Nipponese army appears only in the first three editions of the game, which means it was never particularly fleshed out compared to some of the other armies that similarly emerged from that era.

			===1E===
			The 1e version of the Nippon force found in ''Forces of Fantasy''' names them as the '''Men of the Orient'''... which is a bit redundant since they'd already called the [[Araby]] forces "Men of the East".

			In this edition, they have a fairly small army list; [[Samurai]] in infantry and cavalry forms, Ashiguru as regular troopers, Kamikazes (Samurai with Frenzy), and Vim-to Monks. They can also field Samurai Heroes, Martial Arts Heroes, and Vim-to Mages.

			===2E===
			In the 2e corebook, Nippon didn't get much lore to shine; most of the "Orientals" portion of the Human ethnic writeup was actually devoted to [[Cathay]], with Nippon just getting a few passing mentions - they have [[samurai]], death-seeking samurai [[berserker]]s called Kamikazes, and warrior-monks who practice a martial art called Vimto, sacred to a god called ''The Orange Simca'' and whose worship was common to both Nippon and [[Cathay]].

			Nippon could at least claim superiority in one field; the ''Ravening Hordes'' army book featured a full Nippon army list, but had no such list for [[Cathay]] or [[Araby]]. In this edition, aside from the generic Heroes and Magicians, a Nipponese army could field Samurai, Samurai Cavalry, Regular Cavalry, Mounted Archers, Mounted Crossbowmen, Warrior Monks, Ashigaru, Archers, Crossbowmen, Arquebusiers, Peasants, [[Ninja]]s, Kamikaze Suicide Warriors (who in this edition are guys who run into enemy formations with a keg of gunpowder strapped to their back with a burning fuse), Skirmishers, Cannons, Rocket Launchers, Stone Throwers and Bolt Throwers. Also, they could take [[Ogre]]s and [[Giant]]s as mercenaries.

			Honestly? Pretty generic, but then, most of the armies in 2e were.

			===3E===
			The Nippon forces began their slide into obscurity in this edition; in the corebook, they don't even warrant a separate entry as a nation in the basic writeup of the setting, being instead folded into the Cathay writeup - the book promises that "a complete guide to the lands of Nippon is already under development", but it never appeared.

			''Warhammer Armies'' saw them downgraded from their own independent fighting force to simply a [[Mercenary]] force. In this edition, [[Dark Elves (Warhammer Fantasy)\|Dark Elf]] armies could take a single Samurai Lord commanding a single [[Ninja]], up to 60 [[Samurai]] and up to 60 Ashigaru... why were Dark Elves the only army that could take Nipponese allies? Who knows!

			===Warhammer Army Project===
			Naturally, the [[Warhammer Army Project]] was quick to seize the opportunity that [[Games Workshop]] abandoned and made their own Warhammer Armies: Nippon army book for their 9th edition project. And it is '''massive''', with one of the ''biggest'' army lists of their project! Seriously, this is on par with their [[Warriors of Chaos]] and [[Skaven]] 9e rewrites for terms of sheer content!

	==Links==		==Links==

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	The little official info on their land army pretty much shows it as being the same as what real-life Japan had during the latter half of the Shogunate (arquebus wielding ashigeru, peasant foot soldiers, samurai and ninja etc.) plus, rocket artillery, magic sorcerers, magic kung-fu monks and...suicide bombers called Kamikaze. Out of all the possible magical creatures they could of had, for some reason Nippon only got Ki-Rin and Temple Dogs, which were shared with [[Cathay]].		The little official info on their land army pretty much shows it as being the same as what real-life Japan had during the latter half of the Shogunate (arquebus wielding ashigeru, peasant foot soldiers, samurai and ninja etc.) plus, rocket artillery, magic sorcerers, magic kung-fu monks and...suicide bombers called Kamikaze. Out of all the possible magical creatures they could of had, for some reason Nippon only got Ki-Rin and Temple Dogs, which were shared with [[Cathay]].

	There were almost no named characters in Nippon back then. "The tale of Sanyo Kawasaki" scenario told the story of a Samurai who had a [[Butthurt\|butthurt]] over the fact that the government [[Grimdark\|let a foreign ship pass near the Nipponese ~~coat~~ (not even landing there) and made no attempts to sink it]]. He gathered an army under the command of his retainers with similarly stupid names ([[Derp\|Honda Suzuki, everyone?]]) and marched to the capital, but failed to take it and ritually killed himself. This was the only Nipponese scenario before the squatting happened, by the way.		There were almost no named characters in Nippon back then. "The tale of Sanyo Kawasaki" scenario told the story of a Samurai who had a [[Butthurt\|butthurt]] over the fact that the government [[Grimdark\|let a foreign ship pass near the Nipponese coast (not even landing there) and made no attempts to sink it]]. He gathered an army under the command of his retainers with similarly stupid names ([[Derp\|Honda Suzuki, everyone?]]) and marched to the capital, but failed to take it and ritually killed himself. This was the only Nipponese scenario before the squatting happened, by the way.

	[[Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné]] also apparently went there once. Probably. If she exists. Honestly, this wouldn't be worth mentioning except that we don't know shit about Nippon so it's like 5% of what we know.		[[Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné]] also apparently went there once. Probably. If she exists. Honestly, this wouldn't be worth mentioning except that we don't know shit about Nippon so it's like 5% of what we know.

184.175.25.142: /* Links */

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	==Links==		==Links==
	* [[Warhammer Army Project/Nippon\|Nippon fandex]]		* [[Warhammer Army Project/Nippon\|Nippon fandex]]
			* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-EaoVgSTdw Nippon lore in a video]<s> only barely parodied</s>

	{{Regions and areas of the Old World}}		{{Regions and areas of the Old World}}
	[[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]]		[[Category:Warhammer Fantasy]]

1d4chan>Zrayz10: /* Old Lore (pre-4th Edition) */

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	Nipponese (like other Oriental guys in Oldhammer) worship a Buddha-like deity known as the Orange Simca which was named after one of the Warhammer developers' car. The truly hilarious thing is that Simca isn't even Japanese brand, but a [[Bretonnia\|French one]]. Simcaism has a martial version called Vim-to, that is worshipped by crazy, but skilled monks and mages that fight [[Awesome\|with bare hands]]. There are also a bunch of [[Tzeentch\|Tsien-Tsin]] cults, which is not unusual for [[Eastern Lands]].		Nipponese (like other Oriental guys in Oldhammer) worship a Buddha-like deity known as the Orange Simca which was named after one of the Warhammer developers' car. The truly hilarious thing is that Simca isn't even Japanese brand, but a [[Bretonnia\|French one]]. Simcaism has a martial version called Vim-to, that is worshipped by crazy, but skilled monks and mages that fight [[Awesome\|with bare hands]]. There are also a bunch of [[Tzeentch\|Tsien-Tsin]] cults, which is not unusual for [[Eastern Lands]].

	The little official info on their land army pretty much shows it as being the same as what real-life Japan had during the latter half of the Shogunate (arquebus wielding ashigeru, peasant foot soldiers, samurai and ninja etc.) plus, rocket artillery, magic sorcerers, magic kung-fu monks and...suicide bombers called Kamikaze. Out of magical creatures, Nippon only got Ki-Rin and Temple Dogs, which were shared with [[Cathay]].		The little official info on their land army pretty much shows it as being the same as what real-life Japan had during the latter half of the Shogunate (arquebus wielding ashigeru, peasant foot soldiers, samurai and ninja etc.) plus, rocket artillery, magic sorcerers, magic kung-fu monks and...suicide bombers called Kamikaze. Out of all the possible magical creatures they could of had, for some reason Nippon only got Ki-Rin and Temple Dogs, which were shared with [[Cathay]].

	There were almost no named characters in Nippon back then. "The tale of Sanyo Kawasaki" scenario told the story of a Samurai who had a [[Butthurt\|butthurt]] over the fact that the government [[Grimdark\|let a foreign ship pass near the Nipponese coat (not even landing there) and made no attempts to sink it]]. He gathered an army under the command of his retainers with similarly stupid names ([[Derp\|Honda Suzuki, everyone?]]) and marched to the capital, but failed to take it and ritually killed himself. This was the only Nipponese scenario before the squatting happened, by the way.		There were almost no named characters in Nippon back then. "The tale of Sanyo Kawasaki" scenario told the story of a Samurai who had a [[Butthurt\|butthurt]] over the fact that the government [[Grimdark\|let a foreign ship pass near the Nipponese coat (not even landing there) and made no attempts to sink it]]. He gathered an army under the command of his retainers with similarly stupid names ([[Derp\|Honda Suzuki, everyone?]]) and marched to the capital, but failed to take it and ritually killed himself. This was the only Nipponese scenario before the squatting happened, by the way.

	[[Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné]] went there once. Probably. If she exists. Honestly, this wouldn't be worth mentioning except that we don't know shit about Nippon so it's like 5% of what we know.		[[Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné]] also apparently went there once. Probably. If she exists. Honestly, this wouldn't be worth mentioning except that we don't know shit about Nippon so it's like 5% of what we know.

	== Current lore (post-4th Edition) ==		== Current lore (post-4th Edition) ==