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	Also in ''Unmarked'', Ollanius briefly hooks up with John Grammaticus, another perpetual (although far more of a dick, and, unlike Oll, apparently turned into a perpetual by the Cabal rather than being born one) .. you know, the guy who is actually with the Cabal, going along with their "Alpharius gambit" to destroy humanity but wipe out Chaos, but who is at some point persuaded by [[Eldrad\|Eldrad Uthan]] to turn rogue ''against'' the Cabal, since in a rare moment of non-dickery, Eldrad decided that wiping out humanity might ''not be'' the best idea, giving John the final push after long having some scruples about aiding in the genocide of his own race for, among others, arrogant space elves and a sentient floating ball of gas.		Also in ''Unmarked'', Ollanius briefly hooks up with John Grammaticus, another perpetual (although far more of a dick, and, unlike Oll, apparently turned into a perpetual by the Cabal rather than being born one) .. you know, the guy who is actually with the Cabal, going along with their "Alpharius gambit" to destroy humanity but wipe out Chaos, but who is at some point persuaded by [[Eldrad\|Eldrad Uthan]] to turn rogue ''against'' the Cabal, since in a rare moment of non-dickery, Eldrad decided that wiping out humanity might ''not be'' the best idea, giving John the final push after long having some scruples about aiding in the genocide of his own race for, among others, arrogant space elves and a sentient floating ball of gas.

	Vulkan's permanent death does put a dent on Perpetuals being unkillable, Artellus Numelon had to ~~sacrificed~~ himself to bring Vulkan back from that death.		Vulkan's permanent death does put a dent on Perpetuals being unkillable, Artellus Numelon had to sacrifice himself to bring Vulkan back from that death.

	In the Fury of Magnus, the titular Primarch himself uses his Chaos Sorcery/Psyker Powers to PERMANENTLY kill '''REDACTED''' which doesn't give Olly a chance in hell he would survive the duel.		In the Fury of Magnus, the titular Primarch himself uses his Chaos Sorcery/Psyker Powers to PERMANENTLY kill '''REDACTED''' which doesn't give Olly a chance in hell he would survive the duel.

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	Other than the fact that he was man enough to stand up to Daddy's former favourite with nothing more than a flashlight and toilet paper armour, not much else is known about him, which probably means that he did even more heroic and manly shit during the Siege of Terra.		Other than the fact that he was man enough to stand up to Daddy's former favourite with nothing more than a flashlight and toilet paper armour, not much else is known about him, which probably means that he did even more heroic and manly shit during the Siege of Terra.

	The entire point of the character is to demonstrate that true courage and inner strength can be found even among the weakest. Games Workshop, in their infinite wisdom, completely missed this point and proceeded to replace the brave and ordinary little soldier with a progressively bigger and stronger superhero with every reveal/retcon (although, see below for a different take on his [[Perpetual\|perepetuality]] and it's implications in his final act of heroism.) This, in a way, makes Horus' fall to Chaos seem less and less despicable; the original story of a superhuman so remorselessly killing an ordinary human could be seen in a similar light as a grown man killing a child. It is probably a near certainty that the next retcon will trade up the Custode for one of the missing Primarchs (such as the glorious and magnificent Ollanius [[Galactic Partridges\|Partridge]]) or a fucking omnipresent [[Imperial Knight]]. Further updates will likely add the Terminator, the Custode, the second missing Primarch and an Imperial [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)\|Titan]] for good measure, all at the same time.		The entire point of the character is to demonstrate that [[The Lord of the Rings \| true courage and inner strength can be found even among the weakest (by comparison) of individuals]]. Games Workshop, in their infinite wisdom, completely missed this point and proceeded to replace the brave and ordinary little soldier with a progressively bigger and stronger superhero with every reveal/retcon (although, see below for a different take on his [[Perpetual\|perepetuality]] and it's implications in his final act of heroism.) This, in a way, makes Horus' fall to Chaos seem less and less despicable; the original story of a superhuman so remorselessly killing an ordinary human could be seen in a similar light as a grown man killing a child. It is probably a near certainty that the next retcon will trade up the Custode for one of the missing Primarchs (such as the glorious and magnificent Ollanius [[Galactic Partridges\|Partridge]]) or a fucking omnipresent [[Imperial Knight]]. Further updates will likely add the Terminator, the Custode, the second missing Primarch and an Imperial [[Titan (Warhammer 40,000)\|Titan]] for good measure, all at the same time.

	However, in the Visions Of Heresy Novel, the humble Imperial Guardsman is back with his heroic act of sacrifice, though it is not stated whether his name was Ollanius Pius. Probably because there was no need to, since everyone already knew his name in the fandom.		However, in the Visions Of Heresy Novel, the humble Imperial Guardsman is back with his heroic act of sacrifice, though it is not stated whether his name was Ollanius Pius. Probably because there was no need to, since everyone already knew his name in the fandom.

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	Kriegsmeisterbunker.jpg\|The first version of Horus and the Emperor's duel. Notice the location, making Pius' sacrifice possible, if implausible.		Kriegsmeisterbunker.jpg\|The first version of Horus and the Emperor's duel. Notice the location, making Pius's sacrifice possible, if implausible.
	The legend of Ollanius Pius.jpg\|The legend.		The legend of Ollanius Pius.jpg\|The legend.
	MUH OLLANIUS PIUS.png\|The retcon.		MUH OLLANIUS PIUS.png\|The retcon.

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	Also known as "Why the Black Library should not be allowed to write or sell anything".		Also known as "Why the Black Library should not be allowed to write or sell anything".

	In Dan Abnett's Horus Heresy novel "Know No Fear" Ollanius Pius' lore has changed dramatically. In the book he is named "Ollanius Perrson" (or "Oll" to his friends) and is part of a small group of immortal humans spread throughout the galaxy called [[Perpetual]]s. John Grammaticus (who is alive and well) claimed that out of the entire Ultramarine empire (which at the time consisted of a staggering 500 planets) there are only three Perpetuals (the total amount in the Imperium is unknown, but almost certainly not much higher). Pius estimates his date of birth at some point around 15,000 BC (by contrast, the Emperor claims he was born in roughly 8,000 BC- which would make Pius no less than '''7,000 years older than the Emperor'''. It would also make him ''older than agriculture''), and is the same "breed" as Grammaticus and possibly the Emperor. At first this sounds like GW is missing the point again, but besides his ''extreme'' age and the whole immortality thing he seems to just be a normal human with normal human strength (coupled with the fact that, by all indications, he hasn't died once so far). Which, when compared to the psychic gestalt übermensch that is the Emperor, is kind of important; Ollanius is more representative of every strength (and weakness) of Mankind than the Emperor EVER was. In a follow-up in "Mortis," John Grammaticus learns from watching a vision of Ollanius Pius' memories while both were in a psychic illusion that he was actually the first Warmaster and fought for the Emperor while tackling some cult building the Tower of Babel to harness the power of Enuncia (basically "Space Thu'um"). While the cult was destroyed, he fell out with the Emperor over whether they should destroy the tower as they had originally planned or preserve it despite the dangers in the hopes of turning it against Chaos (as the Emperor had decided to do instead). In the end, he stabbed the Emperor regretfully and then left after making the tower collapse. (Essentially the First Heresy wherein a Warmaster turns against the Emperor’s designs, but a million times more reasonable.)		In Dan Abnett's Horus Heresy novel "Know No Fear" Ollanius Pius's lore has changed dramatically. In the book he is named "Ollanius Perrson" (or "Oll" to his friends) and is part of a small group of immortal humans spread throughout the galaxy called [[Perpetual]]s. John Grammaticus (who is alive and well) claimed that out of the entire Ultramarine empire (which at the time consisted of a staggering 500 planets) there are only three Perpetuals (the total amount in the Imperium is unknown, but almost certainly not much higher). Pius estimates his date of birth at some point around 15,000 BC (by contrast, the Emperor claims he was born in roughly 8,000 BC- which would make Pius no less than '''7,000 years older than the Emperor'''. It would also make him ''older than agriculture''), and is the same "breed" as Grammaticus and possibly the Emperor. At first this sounds like GW is missing the point again, but besides his ''extreme'' age and the whole immortality thing he seems to just be a normal human with normal human strength (coupled with the fact that, by all indications, he hasn't died once so far). Which, when compared to the psychic gestalt übermensch that is the Emperor, is kind of important; Ollanius is more representative of every strength (and weakness) of Mankind than the Emperor EVER was. In a follow-up in "Mortis," John Grammaticus learns from watching a vision of Ollanius Pius' memories while both were in a psychic illusion that he was actually the first Warmaster and fought for the Emperor while tackling some cult building the Tower of Babel to harness the power of Enuncia (basically "Space Thu'um"). While the cult was destroyed, he fell out with the Emperor over whether they should destroy the tower as they had originally planned or preserve it despite the dangers in the hopes of turning it against Chaos (as the Emperor had decided to do instead). In the end, he stabbed the Emperor regretfully and then left after making the tower collapse. (Essentially the First Heresy wherein a Warmaster turns against the Emperor’s designs, but a million times more reasonable.)

	===The Eternal Infantryman===		===The Eternal Infantryman===

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	'''Ollanius Pius''' embodies what it means to be a soldier of the [[Imperial Guard]] in this [[Grimdark\|grimdark]] universe. He is THE most hardcore Guardsman ever and also the legendary saint of the Imperial Guard, because as legend goes, in the hopes of protecting the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]], Ollanius Pius put himself directly in front of [[Horus Lupercal\|a walking demigod of ~~battle~~]]. The fact that he did so without fainting, shitting himself in terror, or mewling like a wounded grox suggests that his testicles must have been forged from Mars-grade adamantium (or more likely, he had power balls. His testicles were of such might that they ignored armor saves in close combat and could themselves be used as weapons). Ollanius Pius is so manly that he makes [[Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]], [[Commissar Yarrick]], [[Gregor Eisenhorn]], [[Ciaphas Cain]], [[Kharn]], [[Colonel "Iron Hand" Straken]], [[Logan Grimnar]], [[Merrick]], [[Gunnery Sergeant "Stonetooth" Harker\|Harker]], [[Creed]] and [[Sly Marbo]] piss themselves in terror. Well, maybe not [[Sly Marbo]] but he still respects the shit out of him.		'''Ollanius Pius''' embodies what it means to be a soldier of the [[Imperial Guard]] in this [[Grimdark\|grimdark]] universe. He is THE most hardcore Guardsman ever and also the legendary saint of the Imperial Guard, because as legend goes, in the hopes of protecting the [[God-Emperor of Mankind\|Emperor of Mankind]], Ollanius Pius put himself directly in front of [[Horus Lupercal\|the walking demigod avatar of the Chaos Gods]]. The fact that he did so without fainting, shitting himself in terror, or mewling like a wounded grox suggests that his testicles must have been forged from Mars-grade adamantium, or more likely, he had power balls. His testicles were of such might that they ignored armor saves in close combat and could themselves be used as weapons. Ollanius Pius is so manly that he makes [[Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]], [[Commissar Yarrick]], [[Gregor Eisenhorn]], [[Ciaphas Cain]], [[Kharn]], [[Colonel "Iron Hand" Straken]], [[Logan Grimnar]], [[Merrick]], [[Gunnery Sergeant "Stonetooth" Harker\|Harker]], [[Creed]] and [[Sly Marbo]] piss themselves in terror. Well, maybe not [[Sly Marbo]], but Sly still respects the shit out of him.

	Naturally, like a bunch of [[Squats\|awesome]] [[Zoats\|shit]] and virtually every piece of lore that has ever existed in Warhammer 40,000, [[Games Workshop]] retconned this story in several ways. Firstly his introduction is a bit of a retcon, since Ollanius wasn't in the original battle (read the Slaves to Darkness book) where the Emperor teleported to Horus' bunker (not flagship) and fought him there. Then when he was introduced, he was said to have originally sacrificed himself during Horus' assault on the Imperial Palace, placing himself between the Emperor and Horus (which would mean in that version Horus broke through), which makes sense, so they had to change it. The next story the Emperor fought Horus in Horus' command bunker again, teleporting in with [[Imperial Fists]] and Custodes, and while having a bunker on the ground makes it entirely possible that Pius was there (especially since the traitor legions were busy at the palace walls) it's fairly unlikely. Then they changed it again, this time having Emps board Horus' flagship, the Vengeful Spirit, along with a company of Imperial Fist terminators and Custodes, no Pius this time due to the fact that a Guardsmen would probably die the second they arrive there. At no point from here on out is Ollanius ever mentioned to have boarded the [[Vengeful Spirit]], though the idea of a heroic sacrifice was kept, GW replaced Pius with a [[Space Marine\|Spehss Mahreen]] [[Terminator]], which wasn't that bad but then they retconned out the Terminator with an [[Adeptus Custodes]], which is SIX KINDS OF LAME.		Naturally, like a bunch of [[Squats\|awesome]] [[Zoats\|shit]] and virtually every piece of lore that has ever existed in Warhammer 40,000, [[Games Workshop]] retconned this story in several ways. Firstly his introduction is a bit of a retcon, since Ollanius wasn't in the original battle (read the Slaves to Darkness book) where the Emperor teleported to Horus' bunker (not flagship) and fought him there. Then when he was introduced, he was said to have originally sacrificed himself during Horus' assault on the Imperial Palace, placing himself between the Emperor and Horus (which would mean in that version Horus broke through), which makes sense, so they had to change it. The next story the Emperor fought Horus in Horus' command bunker again, teleporting in with [[Imperial Fists]] and Custodes, and while having a bunker on the ground makes it entirely possible that Pius was there (especially since the traitor legions were busy at the palace walls) it's fairly unlikely. Then they changed it again, this time having Emps board Horus' flagship, the Vengeful Spirit, along with a company of Imperial Fist terminators and Custodes, no Pius this time due to the fact that a Guardsmen would probably die the second they arrive there. At no point from here on out is Ollanius ever mentioned to have boarded the [[Vengeful Spirit]], though the idea of a heroic sacrifice was kept, GW replaced Pius with a [[Space Marine\|Spehss Mahreen]] [[Terminator]], which wasn't that bad but then they retconned out the Terminator with an [[Adeptus Custodes]], which is SIX KINDS OF LAME.

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	Also known as "Why the Black Library should not be allowed to write or sell anything".		Also known as "Why the Black Library should not be allowed to write or sell anything".

	In Dan Abnett's Horus Heresy novel "Know No Fear" Ollanius Pius' lore has changed dramatically. In the book he is named "Ollanius Perrson" (or "Oll" to his friends) and is part of a small group of immortal humans spread throughout the galaxy called [[Perpetual]]s. John Grammaticus (who is alive and well) claimed that out of the entire Ultramarine empire (which at the time consisted of a staggering 500 planets) there are only three Perpetuals (the total amount in the Imperium is unknown, but almost certainly not much higher). Pius estimates his date of birth at some point around 15,000 BC (by contrast, the Emperor claims he was born in roughly 8,000 BC- which would make Pius no less than '''7,000 years older than the Emperor'''. It would also make him ''older than agriculture''), and is the same "breed" as Grammaticus and possibly the Emperor. At first this sounds like GW is missing the point again, but besides his ''extreme'' age and the whole immortality thing he seems to just be a normal human with normal human strength (coupled with the fact that, by all indications, he hasn't died once so far). Which, when compared to the psychic gestalt übermensch that is the Emperor, is kind of important; Ollanius is more representative of every strength (and weakness) of Mankind than the Emperor EVER was. In a follow-up in "Mortis," John Grammaticus learns from watching a vision of Ollanius Pius' memories while both were in a psychic illusion that he was actually the first Warmaster and fought for the Emperor while tackling some cult building the Tower of Babel to harness the power of Enuncia (basically "Space Thu'um"). While the cult was destroyed, he fell out with the Emperor over whether they should destroy the tower as they had originally planned or preserve it despite the dangers in the hopes of turning it against Chaos (as the Emperor had decided to do instead). In the end, he stabbed the Emperor regretfully and then left after making the tower collapse.		In Dan Abnett's Horus Heresy novel "Know No Fear" Ollanius Pius' lore has changed dramatically. In the book he is named "Ollanius Perrson" (or "Oll" to his friends) and is part of a small group of immortal humans spread throughout the galaxy called [[Perpetual]]s. John Grammaticus (who is alive and well) claimed that out of the entire Ultramarine empire (which at the time consisted of a staggering 500 planets) there are only three Perpetuals (the total amount in the Imperium is unknown, but almost certainly not much higher). Pius estimates his date of birth at some point around 15,000 BC (by contrast, the Emperor claims he was born in roughly 8,000 BC- which would make Pius no less than '''7,000 years older than the Emperor'''. It would also make him ''older than agriculture''), and is the same "breed" as Grammaticus and possibly the Emperor. At first this sounds like GW is missing the point again, but besides his ''extreme'' age and the whole immortality thing he seems to just be a normal human with normal human strength (coupled with the fact that, by all indications, he hasn't died once so far). Which, when compared to the psychic gestalt übermensch that is the Emperor, is kind of important; Ollanius is more representative of every strength (and weakness) of Mankind than the Emperor EVER was. In a follow-up in "Mortis," John Grammaticus learns from watching a vision of Ollanius Pius' memories while both were in a psychic illusion that he was actually the first Warmaster and fought for the Emperor while tackling some cult building the Tower of Babel to harness the power of Enuncia (basically "Space Thu'um"). While the cult was destroyed, he fell out with the Emperor over whether they should destroy the tower as they had originally planned or preserve it despite the dangers in the hopes of turning it against Chaos (as the Emperor had decided to do instead). In the end, he stabbed the Emperor regretfully and then left after making the tower collapse. (Essentially the First Heresy wherein a Warmaster turns against the Emperor’s designs, but a million times more reasonable.)

	===The Eternal Infantryman===		===The Eternal Infantryman===

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	{{Topquote\|Where I fall, ten more shall take my place! And one hundred each of them! So strike me down! I am the harbinger!\|Ollanius Pius, an Imperial Guardsman (The First Guardsman), to Arch-Traitor Horus "supercharged motherfucking avatar of Chaos" Lupercal. Yes, you read that correctly.}}		{{Topquote\|Where I fall, ten more shall take my place! And one hundred each of them! So strike me down! I am the harbinger!\|Ollanius Pius, an Imperial Guardsman (The First Guardsman), to Arch-Traitor Horus "supercharged motherfucking avatar of Chaos" Lupercal. Yes, you read that correctly.}}