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1d4chan>Cavgunner at 17:15, 5 June 2023

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	It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.		It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified nose pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, while a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters; these were both roles for which the P-38 was naturally suited. The P-38 was also evaluated for conversion as a carrier-based fighter, another ~~version was proposed~~ as a seaplane, there was a version that proposed an asymmetric dual-cockpit layout, and there are even some photos online of an ambulance version that would have carried two casualties in rather uncomfortable underslung pods. Understandably, none of these latter proposals saw fruition. Regardless, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that remained in full production through the entire conflict.		As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified nose pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, while a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters; these were both roles for which the P-38 was naturally suited. The P-38 was also evaluated for conversion as a carrier-based fighter, another as a seaplane, another as a glider tractor, there was a version that proposed an asymmetric dual-cockpit layout, and there are even some photos online of an ambulance version that would have carried two casualties in rather uncomfortable underslung pods. Understandably, none of these latter proposals saw fruition. Regardless, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that remained in full production through the entire conflict.

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1d4chan>Cavgunner: /* IRL */ I can't find any information indicating that the ambulance version was actually put into service

2023-06-05T17:13:09Z

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	It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.		It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified nose pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and ~~a handful were converted into flying ambulances~~. ~~However~~, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that ~~served~~ in ~~a fully combat-active status~~ through the entire conflict.		As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified nose pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, while a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters; these were both roles for which the P-38 was naturally suited. The P-38 was also evaluated for conversion as a carrier-based fighter, another version was proposed as a seaplane, there was a version that proposed an asymmetric dual-cockpit layout, and there are even some photos online of an ambulance version that would have carried two casualties in rather uncomfortable underslung pods. Understandably, none of these latter proposals saw fruition. Regardless, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that remained in full production through the entire conflict.

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	It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.		It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified ~~cockpit~~ pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and a handful were converted into flying ambulances. However, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that served in a fully combat-active status through the entire conflict.		As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified nose pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and a handful were converted into flying ambulances. However, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that served in a fully combat-active status through the entire conflict.

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	[[File:P-38 Lightning.jpg\|thumb\|Like a bolt out of the blue]]		[[File:P-38 Lightning.jpg\|thumb\|Like a bolt out of the blue]]
	The '''Lockheed P-38 Lightning''' was a twin-engined fighter utilized by American forces in WW2 and serves as a unit in [[Flames of War]]. Called the "''Forked Tailed Devil''" by the Germs, and "''Two Planes one Pilot''" by the Japanese, the P-38 earned a reputation as a powerful fighter, possessing 4 .50 caliber BMGs and a 20mm cannon in its nose, the P-38 could lay down highly accurate destructive fire without having to worry about convergence. First envisioned as an interceptor, the P-38 came to encompass a variety of roles during WW2 from night fighter, high-altitude reconnaissance, and most importantly for Flames of War, ground attack.		The '''Lockheed P-38 Lightning''' was a twin-engined fighter utilized by American forces in WW2 and serves as a unit in [[Flames of War]]. Called the "''Forked Tailed Devil''" by the Germs, and "''Two Planes one Pilot''" by the Japanese, the P-38 earned a reputation as a powerful fighter, possessing 4 .50 caliber BMGs and a 20mm cannon in its nose, the P-38 could lay down highly accurate destructive fire without having to worry about convergence. First envisioned as an interceptor, the P-38 came to encompass a variety of roles during WW2 from night fighter, high-altitude reconnaissance, and most importantly for Flames of War, ground attack.

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	[[File:P38 Lightning.jpg\|thumb\|Strike twice]]		[[File:P38 Lightning.jpg\|thumb\|Strike twice]]

	Arguably the first true "interceptor", the P-38 was built from the start to serve a unique role that differentiated it from nearly every other fighter in the war. The designers wanted a fighter with exceptionally high speed and climb rate that could bring down bombers at high altitude. Accomplishing this would require two large, powerful engines with advanced turbosuperchargers, which at the time were expensive and notoriously complicated to maintain. The resulting fighter made compromises in maneuverability and was quite large, but as its main targets were to be bombers, this was considered acceptable. This also explains why it was one of the few aircraft to take a 20mm cannon in the USAAF fighter inventory.		Arguably the first true "interceptor," the P-38 was built from the start to serve a unique role that differentiated it from nearly every other American fighter in the war. The designers wanted a fighter with exceptionally high speed and climb rate that could bring down bombers at high altitude. Accomplishing this would require two large, powerful engines with advanced turbosuperchargers, which at the time were expensive and notoriously complicated to maintain. The resulting fighter made compromises in maneuverability and was quite large, but as its main targets were to be bombers, this was considered acceptable. This also explains why it was one of the few aircraft to take a 20mm cannon in the USAAF fighter inventory.

	The P-38's large size allowed it to carry much more fuel than a typical fighter, ~~and~~ running at a more economical cruising speed ~~it had~~ an enormous operational range ~~allowing~~ it to escort bombers well into German airspace and operate across the Pacific. The P-38's armament ~~in particular drew the attention of General Kenney of the Pacific Air Force~~, and ~~this armament~~ was used to great effect in the Battle of the Bismarck Sea and in the ~~role~~ of ~~strafing~~ Japanese airfields. In one instance, a US pilot dumped his bombs after trying to dive on a Zero attempting to takeoff. His bombs caused a massive geyser that resulted in the poor Japanese pilot losing control of his aircraft and taking a drink. The Lightning was the fighter that ~~could claim~~ responsibility for the ~~assasination~~ of Admiral Isoruko Yamamoto, the ~~leader~~ of the Pearl Harbor attack and Japan's foremost ~~and soundest expert of Naval Air Power~~.		The P-38's large size allowed it to carry much more fuel than a typical fighter. In addition, running at a more economical cruising speed (a technique developed by none other than Charles Lindbergh, while he was briefly moonlighting as a P38 pilot in the Pacific) granted the fighter an enormous operational range. The P38's long legs allowed it to escort bombers well into German airspace and to operate across the Pacific. The P-38's ferocious armament was equally well suited to ground attack, and it was used to great effect in this role during the Battle of the Bismarck Sea and in the strafing of Japanese airfields. The Lightning was also the fighter that claimed responsibility for the assassination of Admiral Isoruko Yamamoto, the mastermind of the Pearl Harbor attack and Japan's foremost naval strategist.

	In ~~spite~~ of the ~~many upsides~~, ~~the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the~~ Zero ~~or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant~~ that ~~unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots~~. ~~A ban on the export of superchargers meant~~ that ~~British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental~~ in the ~~colder environment~~ of ~~Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the~~ aircraft ~~turned into~~ a ~~fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific~~.		In one of the most unusual aerial kills of WWII, a P38 pilot dumped his bombs after trying to dive on a Zero that was attempting to take off. The P38's bombs caused a massive geyser that resulted in the poor Japanese pilot losing control of his aircraft and taking a drink.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and ~~even fewer~~ were converted as flying ambulances.		In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as maneuverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant that it could be easily identified, and thus could never get the jump on enemy pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also temperamental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the poorly heated cockpit turned into a fridge in colder climates and at higher altitudes. While the Lightning performed a valuable role in Europe (particularly before the arrival of the P51), most of its best achievements took place in the warmer climes of North Africa and the Pacific.

			It's worth emphasizing that the problems with the P38 largely amounted to a lover's quarrel. It really was an excellent fighter that did exactly what it had been designed to do, and any drawbacks were outweighed by its intentional emphasis on weaponry, horsepower, and range. Make no mistake- the P38 took on the best fighters that the Axis had to offer, all day every day. Sure it wouldn't usually win a turn-fight, but it still had a few moves. The thing with the P38 is that it didn't ''have'' to dogfight if it didn't want to, since it would generally use its speed to boom and zoom until the target was dead. Meanwhile, the briefest burst from those tightly-packed guns on the P38's nose would rip open any opposing aircraft like a freaking lightsaber. In essence, the P38 was everything that the lumbering and vulnerable Me110 wished that it could have been.

			As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, many of the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and a handful were converted into flying ambulances. However, the USAAF retained some interceptor squadrons of P38s until the end of the war, making it the only American fighter that served in a fully combat-active status through the entire conflict.

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	In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant that unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the aircraft turned into a fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific.		In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant that unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the aircraft turned into a fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful ~~engine~~, and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and even fewer were converted as flying ambulances.		As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engines, and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and even fewer were converted as flying ambulances.

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	In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant that unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the aircraft turned into a fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific.		In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant that unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the aircraft turned into a fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With ~~it's~~ large size and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and even fewer were converted as flying ambulances.		As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With its large size, powerful engine, and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and even fewer were converted as flying ambulances.

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	The P-38's large size allowed it to carry much more fuel than a typical fighter, and running at a more economical cruising speed it had an enormous operational range allowing it to escort bombers well into German airspace and operate across the Pacific. The P-38's armament in particular drew the attention of General Kenney of the Pacific Air Force, and this armament was used to great effect in the Battle of the Bismarck Sea and in the role of strafing Japanese airfields. In one instance, a US pilot dumped his bombs after trying to dive on a Zero attempting to takeoff. His bombs caused a massive geyser that resulted in the poor Japanese pilot losing control of his aircraft and taking a drink. The Lightning was the fighter that could claim responsibility for the assasination of Admiral Isoruko Yamamoto, the leader of the Pearl Harbor attack and Japan's foremost and soundest expert of Naval Air Power.		The P-38's large size allowed it to carry much more fuel than a typical fighter, and running at a more economical cruising speed it had an enormous operational range allowing it to escort bombers well into German airspace and operate across the Pacific. The P-38's armament in particular drew the attention of General Kenney of the Pacific Air Force, and this armament was used to great effect in the Battle of the Bismarck Sea and in the role of strafing Japanese airfields. In one instance, a US pilot dumped his bombs after trying to dive on a Zero attempting to takeoff. His bombs caused a massive geyser that resulted in the poor Japanese pilot losing control of his aircraft and taking a drink. The Lightning was the fighter that could claim responsibility for the assasination of Admiral Isoruko Yamamoto, the leader of the Pearl Harbor attack and Japan's foremost and soundest expert of Naval Air Power.

	In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. ~~It's~~ irregular shape meant that unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the aircraft turned into a fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific.		In spite of the many upsides, the P-38 had limitations. Its larger size meant it wasn't as manueverable as single engine aircraft like the Zero or the BF109. Its irregular shape meant that unlike the P-47, it could never get the jump on German pilots. A ban on the export of superchargers meant that British P-38s performed terribly at high altitude. The engines were also tempermental in the colder environment of Northern Europe. To add to the problems, the aircraft turned into a fridge due to an inadequate heater. Thus the Lightning was relegated to tropical service, performing well in North Africa and the Pacific.

	As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With it's large size and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and even fewer were converted as flying ambulances.		As the war progressed and newer designs such as the P-51 became available, the remaining Lightnings were repurposed. With it's large size and easily modified cockpit pod, it was an ideal candidate for conversion to other purposes. Hundreds were converted for reconnaissance, a smaller number were equipped with radar to serve as night fighters, and even fewer were converted as flying ambulances.

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