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Paths of Enlightenment

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	;Path of Night		;Path of Night
	: “Only the Evilest DARKEST EVIL is good enough for me to spread EVIL and make things horrible for everyone. Did I ever tell you about the time I was totally cool and not cringy?!?”		: “Only the Evilest DARKEST EVIL is good enough for me to spread EVIL and make things horrible for everyone. Did I ever tell you about the time I was totally cool and not cringy?!?”
			;Path of Orion
			: Vampires are hunters, so hunt things. Hunt ALL the things! Note: Humans make for really shitty hunting.
	;Path of [[Vampire:_The_Masquerade#Ravnos\|Paradox]]		;Path of [[Vampire:_The_Masquerade#Ravnos\|Paradox]]
	: “We can make illusions! So who the fuck knows what is real? Also, if you’re enlightened enough, you can warp reality*”		: “We can make illusions! So who the fuck knows what is real? Also, if you’re enlightened enough, you can warp reality*”

1d4chan>The Hat That Was: /* What the Creators Intended */

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	Vampires have to be monsters to exist, and realistically it’s very fucking hard not to adapt to circumstance. Paths were a way to codify what happens when Vampires find some stability that doesn’t involve being the kind of faggot who weeps tears of blood over the hunter that just tried to torch you and the apartment building your haven’s in. Where a lot of paths are looser in the realms of: killing, stealing, property damage, torture, etc., what is put in it’s place is something that is stricter in the hierarchy of sins.		Vampires have to be monsters to exist, and realistically it’s very fucking hard not to adapt to circumstance. Paths were a way to codify what happens when Vampires find some stability that doesn’t involve being the kind of faggot who weeps tears of blood over the hunter that just tried to torch you and the apartment building your haven’s in. Where a lot of paths are looser in the realms of: killing, stealing, property damage, torture, etc., what is put in it’s place is something that is stricter in the hierarchy of sins.

	A Path of Beast Vamp isn’t going to be bothered by accidentally killing someone during feeding, such things happen to prey after all. However cold blooded murder is still a problem, according to the path it isn’t natural.~~</br>~~		A Path of Beast Vamp isn’t going to be bothered by accidentally killing someone during feeding, such things happen to prey after all. However cold blooded murder is still a problem, according to the path it isn’t natural. And that’s the key thing: '''''ACCORDING TO THE PATH.'''''
	And that’s the key thing: '''''ACCORDING TO THE PATH.'''''

	Rather than the loosey goosey moral greys of humanity the Paths have far more specific prohibitions, some that are even harder to avoid. Like not frenzying, something that is likely to occur in any tense situation, and there are disciplines that can induce it. Or Path of Power and the Inner Voice and it's level 1 Sin "Turning Down an Oppourtunity for Power," I can easily see how a good ST can exploit this. Paths don't just let PCs do what they want, you are literally trading which sins drive you nuts.		Rather than the loosey goosey moral greys of humanity the Paths have far more specific prohibitions, some that are even harder to avoid. Like not frenzying, something that is likely to occur in any tense situation, and there are disciplines that can induce it. Or Path of Power and the Inner Voice and it's level 1 Sin "Turning Down an Oppourtunity for Power," I can easily see how a good ST can exploit this. Paths don't just let PCs do what they want, you are literally trading which sins drive you nuts.

1d4chan>The Hat That Was at 20:47, 14 February 2022

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	==Yeah, But Why Though?==		==Yeah, But Why Though?==
	To understand why paths of enlightenment exist, a player has to realistically consider what it takes to maintain humanity for an immortal who lives in a near constant shadow war that can go hot whenever their demigod ancestors does it for the lulz. A vampire has to invest in emotional connections, avoid hubris, avoid asshole vampires that look on your life as either [[Diablerie\|a means of promotion or a tasty snack]], <i>and keep their beast in check.</i>		To understand why paths of enlightenment exist, a player has to realistically consider what it takes to maintain humanity for an immortal who lives in a near constant shadow war that can go hot whenever their demigod ancestors does it for the lulz. A vampire has to invest in emotional connections, avoid hubris, avoid asshole vampires that look on your life as either [[Diablerie\|a means of promotion or a tasty snack]], <i>and keep their beast in check.</i>
	~~<br>~~That last one is key.~~</br>~~
			That last one is key.

	The beast, being a primal id made from a curse from G-D on one of his grandkids, is always trying to make a vampire take the low road, and taking the low road feeds the beast. To describe how difficult this is in the world of darkness imagine a catholic priest who just graduated seminary…with a sex addiction, a penchant for cocaine, a violent temper, and a whole lotta repressed feelings, working in Las Vegas’ busiest brothel/mafia hangout at a 24-hour confession booth. I’m not saying that vows are gonna be broken, but the poor fuck’s chances of keeping them are close to nil, because the beast is that insidious. Some Vampires think maintaining humanity is just a vicious spiral that ends with death or losing all control, and for the majority they're probably right.		The beast, being a primal id made from a curse from G-D on one of his grandkids, is always trying to make a vampire take the low road, and taking the low road feeds the beast. To describe how difficult this is in the world of darkness imagine a catholic priest who just graduated seminary…with a sex addiction, a penchant for cocaine, a violent temper, and a whole lotta repressed feelings, working in Las Vegas’ busiest brothel/mafia hangout at a 24-hour confession booth. I’m not saying that vows are gonna be broken, but the poor fuck’s chances of keeping them are close to nil, because the beast is that insidious. Some Vampires think maintaining humanity is just a vicious spiral that ends with death or losing all control, and for the majority they're probably right.
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	==What the Creators Intended==		==What the Creators Intended==
	Vampires have to be monsters to exist, and realistically it’s very fucking hard not to adapt to circumstance. Paths were a way to codify what happens when Vampires find some stability that doesn’t involve being the kind of faggot who weeps tears of blood over the hunter that just tried to torch you and the apartment building your haven’s in. Where a lot of paths are looser in the realms of: killing, stealing, property damage, torture, etc., what is put in it’s place is something that is stricter in the hierarchy of sins.		Vampires have to be monsters to exist, and realistically it’s very fucking hard not to adapt to circumstance. Paths were a way to codify what happens when Vampires find some stability that doesn’t involve being the kind of faggot who weeps tears of blood over the hunter that just tried to torch you and the apartment building your haven’s in. Where a lot of paths are looser in the realms of: killing, stealing, property damage, torture, etc., what is put in it’s place is something that is stricter in the hierarchy of sins.
	<br>A Path of Beast Vamp isn’t going to be bothered by accidentally killing someone during feeding, such things happen to prey after all. However cold blooded murder is still a problem, according to the path it isn’t natural.</br>
	~~And that’s the key thing: <span style="font-size:150%;"><u>ACCORDING TO THE PATH.</U></span>~~
	<br>Rather than the loosey goosey moral greys of humanity the Paths have far more specific prohibitions, some that are even harder to avoid. Like not frenzying, something that is likely to occur in any tense situation, and there are disciplines that can induce it. Or Path of Power and the Inner Voice and it's level 1 Sin "Turning Down an Oppourtunity for Power," I can easily see how a good ST can exploit this. Paths don't just let PCs do what they want, you are literally trading which sins drive you nuts.
	<br>Furthermore, paths are meant to be built from the ground up. and your XP had better go to boosting your path every so often because unless your ST is merciful you’re starting much much lower on your path of enlightenment than the folks still on humanity, and you might have to buy up brand new virtues from scratch. (Remember how you got a free dot of each virtue? If you switch Concience with Conviction or Self-Control with Instinct that free dot is gone and you’re just a little bit easier to fuck over by the ST…unless you spend your freebies boosting those virtues instead of disciplines or backgrounds<sub>...not fucking likely.</sub>)</br>
	<br>On the other hand. If you can keep players to their hierarchy of sins with the same zeal that a [[Rules_lawyer\|Rules Lawyer]] cares about circumstance bonuses, some really facinating RP can happen and you might actually see something cool.</br>

			A Path of Beast Vamp isn’t going to be bothered by accidentally killing someone during feeding, such things happen to prey after all. However cold blooded murder is still a problem, according to the path it isn’t natural.</br>
			And that’s the key thing: '''''ACCORDING TO THE PATH.'''''

			Rather than the loosey goosey moral greys of humanity the Paths have far more specific prohibitions, some that are even harder to avoid. Like not frenzying, something that is likely to occur in any tense situation, and there are disciplines that can induce it. Or Path of Power and the Inner Voice and it's level 1 Sin "Turning Down an Oppourtunity for Power," I can easily see how a good ST can exploit this. Paths don't just let PCs do what they want, you are literally trading which sins drive you nuts.

			Furthermore, paths are meant to be built from the ground up. and your XP had better go to boosting your path every so often because unless your ST is merciful you’re starting much much lower on your path of enlightenment than the folks still on humanity, and you might have to buy up brand new virtues from scratch. (Remember how you got a free dot of each virtue? If you switch Concience with Conviction or Self-Control with Instinct that free dot is gone and you’re just a little bit easier to fuck over by the ST…unless you spend your freebies boosting those virtues instead of disciplines or backgrounds<sub>...not fucking likely.</sub>)

			On the other hand. If you can keep players to their hierarchy of sins with the same zeal that a [[Rules_lawyer\|Rules Lawyer]] cares about circumstance bonuses, some really facinating RP can happen and you might actually see something cool.

	==The Path of What I Was Going To Do Anyway==		==The Path of What I Was Going To Do Anyway==

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	: “We’re animate corpses in a world created by the demiurge, everything’s already evil and damned why not enjoy it a bit?”		: “We’re animate corpses in a world created by the demiurge, everything’s already evil and damned why not enjoy it a bit?”
	;Path of [[Satanic_Panic\|Evil Revelations]]		;Path of [[Satanic_Panic\|Evil Revelations]]
	: “Okay, first there was the pentagram. And then this awesome dude with horns gave me this cool power and it only cost my soul. <sub>Yes master, virgin sacrifice at midnight, in a ~~payboy~~ bunny outfit, I am glad to be your lickspittle master</sub>”		: “Okay, first there was the pentagram. And then this awesome dude with horns gave me this cool power and it only cost my soul. <sub>Yes master, virgin sacrifice at midnight, in a playboy bunny outfit, I am glad to be your lickspittle master</sub>”
	;Path of Honourable Accord		;Path of Honourable Accord
	: “I’m like a [[Alignment#Lawful_Neutral\|paladin]] except I can’t break my word or I’ll go insane, but if I do an atrocity because the hierarchy I'm in demands it I'm all good. Oh, you dishonoured <i>My Lord</i>. I hope you didn’t like your head attached to your body.”		: “I’m like a [[Alignment#Lawful_Neutral\|paladin]] except I can’t break my word or I’ll go insane, but if I do an atrocity because the hierarchy I'm in demands it I'm all good. Oh, you dishonoured <i>My Lord</i>. I hope you didn’t like your head attached to your body.”

1d4chan>GloriousGidofter: /* Paths of Enlightenment */

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	: “Okay, first there was the pentagram. And then this awesome dude with horns gave me this cool power and it only cost my soul. <sub>Yes master, virgin sacrifice at midnight, in a payboy bunny outfit, I am glad to be your lickspittle master</sub>”		: “Okay, first there was the pentagram. And then this awesome dude with horns gave me this cool power and it only cost my soul. <sub>Yes master, virgin sacrifice at midnight, in a payboy bunny outfit, I am glad to be your lickspittle master</sub>”
	;Path of Honourable Accord		;Path of Honourable Accord
	: “I’m like a [[Alignment#Lawful_Neutral\|paladin]] except I can’t break my word of I’ll go insane, but if I do an atrocity because the hierarchy I'm in demands it I'm all good. Oh, you dishonoured <i>My Lord</i>. I hope you didn’t like your head attached to your body.”		: “I’m like a [[Alignment#Lawful_Neutral\|paladin]] except I can’t break my word or I’ll go insane, but if I do an atrocity because the hierarchy I'm in demands it I'm all good. Oh, you dishonoured <i>My Lord</i>. I hope you didn’t like your head attached to your body.”
	;Path of Lilith		;Path of Lilith
	: “Lilith was a generation before Caine and totally got a raw deal, so we’re going to implement a Gynocentric BDSM culture and tell you the REAL reason why the penis is evil: Caine!.”		: “Lilith was a generation before Caine and totally got a raw deal, so we’re going to implement a Gynocentric BDSM culture and tell you the REAL reason why the penis is evil: Caine!.”

216.113.205.151 at 02:01, 24 November 2020

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	==Yeah, But Why Though?==		==Yeah, But Why Though?==
	To understand why paths of enlightenment exist, a player has to realistically consider what it takes to maintain humanity for an immortal who lives in a near constant shadow war that can go hot whenever their demigod ancestors does it for the ~~lols~~. A vampire has to invest in emotional connections, avoid hubris, avoid asshole vampires that look on your life as either [[Diablerie\|a means of promotion or a tasty snack]], <i>and keep their beast in check.</i>		To understand why paths of enlightenment exist, a player has to realistically consider what it takes to maintain humanity for an immortal who lives in a near constant shadow war that can go hot whenever their demigod ancestors does it for the lulz. A vampire has to invest in emotional connections, avoid hubris, avoid asshole vampires that look on your life as either [[Diablerie\|a means of promotion or a tasty snack]], <i>and keep their beast in check.</i>
	<br>That last one is key.</br>		<br>That last one is key.</br>

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 The '''Paths of Enlightenment''', sometimes derogatorily called the ''Paths of [[Edgy|Edgelightenment]]'', are the variant codes of morality in [[Vampire: The Masquerade]] meant to replace Humanity.
 ==The Path of What I Was Going To Do Anyway==

1d4chan>The Hat That Was at 19:00, 22 October 2018

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	==The Path of What I Was Going To Do Anyway==		==The Path of What I Was Going To Do Anyway==
	The path of [[That Guy]], who just wants an excuse to be an edgy asshole. The name comes from the Revised Edition, where this name was given alongside a warning about the potential for players to abuse ~~them~~ to avoid moral questions.		The path of [[That Guy]], who just wants an excuse to be an edgy asshole. The name comes from the Revised Edition, where this name was given alongside a warning about the potential for players to abuse paths to avoid moral questions.

	[[Category:World of Darkness]]		[[Category:World of Darkness]]
	[[Category:Vampire: The Masquerade]]		[[Category:Vampire: The Masquerade]]
	[[Category:Game Mechanics]]		[[Category:Game Mechanics]]