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	Every once in a while, something so egregiously stupid comes up in a Codex for [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle\|WHFB]] and its sequel in the [[Warhammer 40,000\|41st Millenium]] that it makes analysts wonder what ungodly thought-process caused it to wind up in there, either because of relentless [[cheese]], or because of brain-shatteringly bad units. In previous codices, examples included randomized Wyrdboy and Psyker power rolls, randomized Possessed Space Marine abilities, the 5th edition incarnation of [[Chaos Spawn\|that which must not be named]], [[Blood Angels\|Blood Angel]] Force Weapon Dreadnought and deep-striking [[Land Raider]]s, and the WHFB Chaos Daemons Codex made by your [[Matt Ward\|Spiritual Liege]] in general.		Every once in a while, something so egregiously stupid comes up in a Codex for [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle\|WHFB]] and its sequel in the [[Warhammer 40,000\|41st Millenium]] that it makes analysts wonder what ungodly thought-process caused it to wind up in there, either because of relentless [[cheese]], or because of brain-shatteringly bad units. In previous codices, examples included randomized Wyrdboy and Psyker power rolls, randomized Possessed Space Marine abilities, the 5th edition incarnation of [[Chaos Spawn\|that which must not be named]], [[Blood Angels\|Blood Angel]] Force Weapon Dreadnought and deep-striking [[Land Raider]]s, and the WHFB Chaos Daemons Codex made by your [[Matt Ward\|Spiritual Liege]] in general.

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1d4chan>Piroko: /* What is it? */

2020-09-16T12:28:40Z

What is it?

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	==What is it?==		==What is it?==
	The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but the Ordo Xenos doesn't give a fuck what the Grey Knights think, they have [[Deathwatch\|their own force of murdermooks]] that isn't as squeamish about using tools of dubious origin.		The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but the Ordo Xenos doesn't give a fuck what the Grey Knights think, they have [[Deathwatch\|their own force of murdermooks]] that isn't as squeamish about using tools of dubious origin.
	~~[[File:Ryu_sez2.jpg\|250px\|right]]~~
	Crunch-wise, when equipped, it makes any unit firing a plasma-type weapon within 12" of the Inquisitor as BS1 - functionally ensuring that any Plasma-firing unit will never be able to hit what its firing at unless it's a blast or large blast template (in which case it can still go wildly off-course with an unlucky roll, although it potentially can krump anyone near the inquisitor). What this basically means is that Plasma Weapons - long the Imperial's go-to weapon for dealing with heavy infantry - can be rendered completely irrelevant by strategic use of an Inquisitor as a screening unit. Thanks to some very sketchy errata by [[Matt Ward\|Our Spiritual Liege]], the Plasma Syphon also affects Tyranid Bio-Plasma, Tau Pulse Weapons (which makes extra no-sense as pulse weapons are demonstrably not plasma, as Tau HAVE Plasma weapons and these are different), Eldar Starcannons, and Dark Eldar Disintegrators - just for starters. All in all the concept isn't such a terrible idea and could be a nice addition to [[Dark Eldar\|an army with vulnerable commanders]], but that's not what we are talking about here.		Crunch-wise, when equipped, it makes any unit firing a plasma-type weapon within 12" of the Inquisitor as BS1 - functionally ensuring that any Plasma-firing unit will never be able to hit what its firing at unless it's a blast or large blast template (in which case it can still go wildly off-course with an unlucky roll, although it potentially can krump anyone near the inquisitor). What this basically means is that Plasma Weapons - long the Imperial's go-to weapon for dealing with heavy infantry - can be rendered completely irrelevant by strategic use of an Inquisitor as a screening unit. Thanks to some very sketchy errata by [[Matt Ward\|Our Spiritual Liege]], the Plasma Syphon also affects Tyranid Bio-Plasma, Tau Pulse Weapons (which makes extra no-sense as pulse weapons are demonstrably not plasma, as Tau HAVE Plasma weapons and these are different), Eldar Starcannons, and Dark Eldar Disintegrators - just for starters. All in all the concept isn't such a terrible idea and could be a nice addition to [[Dark Eldar\|an army with vulnerable commanders]], but that's not what we are talking about here.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* What is it? */

2020-09-16T12:26:06Z

What is it?

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	Whilst the [[Grey Knights]] codex is loaded with bad fluff, cheese units that are basically equipped with "I win" buttons, and so on, a few examples stand out more than others. The '''Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon''' is one of these, and is considered by most of /tg/ to be one of the stupidest, most facepalm-inducing Wargear options ever transcribed to paper in the 40k universe, and considering what's already in the codex, that's a ''hell'' of an accomplishment, considering bullshit like Psychotroke and Rad Grenades.		Whilst the [[Grey Knights]] codex is loaded with bad fluff, cheese units that are basically equipped with "I win" buttons, and so on, a few examples stand out more than others. The '''Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon''' is one of these, and is considered by most of /tg/ to be one of the stupidest, most facepalm-inducing Wargear options ever transcribed to paper in the 40k universe, and considering what's already in the codex, that's a ''hell'' of an accomplishment, considering bullshit like Psychotroke and Rad Grenades.
	==What is it?==		==What is it?==
			The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but the Ordo Xenos doesn't give a fuck what the Grey Knights think, they have [[Deathwatch\|their own force of murdermooks]] that isn't as squeamish about using tools of dubious origin.
	[[File:Ryu_sez2.jpg\|250px\|right]]		[[File:Ryu_sez2.jpg\|250px\|right]]
	The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but then again, our Spiritual Liege also has them using daemonhosts in combat, so at this point, much of /tg/ isn't surprised.

	Crunch-wise, when equipped, it makes any unit firing a plasma-type weapon within 12" of the Inquisitor as BS1 - functionally ensuring that any Plasma-firing unit will never be able to hit what its firing at unless it's a blast or large blast template (in which case it can still go wildly off-course with an unlucky roll, although it potentially can krump anyone near the inquisitor). What this basically means is that Plasma Weapons - long the Imperial's go-to weapon for dealing with heavy infantry - can be rendered completely irrelevant by strategic use of an Inquisitor as a screening unit. Thanks to some very sketchy errata by [[Matt Ward\|Our Spiritual Liege]], the Plasma Syphon also affects Tyranid Bio-Plasma, Tau Pulse Weapons (which makes extra no-sense as pulse weapons are demonstrably not plasma, as Tau HAVE Plasma weapons and these are different), Eldar Starcannons, and Dark Eldar Disintegrators - just for starters. All in all the concept isn't such a terrible idea and could be a nice addition to [[Dark Eldar\|an army with vulnerable commanders]], but that's not what we are talking about here.		Crunch-wise, when equipped, it makes any unit firing a plasma-type weapon within 12" of the Inquisitor as BS1 - functionally ensuring that any Plasma-firing unit will never be able to hit what its firing at unless it's a blast or large blast template (in which case it can still go wildly off-course with an unlucky roll, although it potentially can krump anyone near the inquisitor). What this basically means is that Plasma Weapons - long the Imperial's go-to weapon for dealing with heavy infantry - can be rendered completely irrelevant by strategic use of an Inquisitor as a screening unit. Thanks to some very sketchy errata by [[Matt Ward\|Our Spiritual Liege]], the Plasma Syphon also affects Tyranid Bio-Plasma, Tau Pulse Weapons (which makes extra no-sense as pulse weapons are demonstrably not plasma, as Tau HAVE Plasma weapons and these are different), Eldar Starcannons, and Dark Eldar Disintegrators - just for starters. All in all the concept isn't such a terrible idea and could be a nice addition to [[Dark Eldar\|an army with vulnerable commanders]], but that's not what we are talking about here.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* What is it? */

2020-09-16T12:21:18Z

What is it?

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	Whilst the [[Grey Knights]] codex is loaded with bad fluff, cheese units that are basically equipped with "I win" buttons, and so on, a few examples stand out more than others. The '''Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon''' is one of these, and is considered by most of /tg/ to be one of the stupidest, most facepalm-inducing Wargear options ever transcribed to paper in the 40k universe, and considering what's already in the codex, that's a ''hell'' of an accomplishment, considering bullshit like Psychotroke and Rad Grenades.		Whilst the [[Grey Knights]] codex is loaded with bad fluff, cheese units that are basically equipped with "I win" buttons, and so on, a few examples stand out more than others. The '''Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon''' is one of these, and is considered by most of /tg/ to be one of the stupidest, most facepalm-inducing Wargear options ever transcribed to paper in the 40k universe, and considering what's already in the codex, that's a ''hell'' of an accomplishment, considering bullshit like Psychotroke and Rad Grenades.
	==What is it?==		==What is it?==
			[[File:Ryu_sez2.jpg\|250px\|right]]
	The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but then again, our Spiritual Liege also has them using daemonhosts in combat, so at this point, much of /tg/ isn't surprised.		The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but then again, our Spiritual Liege also has them using daemonhosts in combat, so at this point, much of /tg/ isn't surprised.

1d4chan>Derpysaurus at 04:59, 16 September 2020

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	Every once in a while, something so egregiously stupid comes up in a Codex for [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle\|WHFB]] and its sequel in the [[Warhammer 40,000\|41st Millenium]] that it makes analysts wonder what ungodly thought-process caused it to wind up in there, either because of relentless [[cheese]], or because of brain-shatteringly bad units. In previous codices, examples included randomized Wyrdboy and Psyker power rolls, randomized Possessed Space Marine abilities, the 5th edition incarnation of [[Chaos Spawn\|that which must not be named]], [[Blood Angels\|Blood Angel]] Force Weapon Dreadnought and deep-striking [[Land Raider]]s, and the WHFB Chaos Daemons Codex made by your [[Matt Ward\|Spiritual Liege]] in general.		Every once in a while, something so egregiously stupid comes up in a Codex for [[Warhammer Fantasy Battle\|WHFB]] and its sequel in the [[Warhammer 40,000\|41st Millenium]] that it makes analysts wonder what ungodly thought-process caused it to wind up in there, either because of relentless [[cheese]], or because of brain-shatteringly bad units. In previous codices, examples included randomized Wyrdboy and Psyker power rolls, randomized Possessed Space Marine abilities, the 5th edition incarnation of [[Chaos Spawn\|that which must not be named]], [[Blood Angels\|Blood Angel]] Force Weapon Dreadnought and deep-striking [[Land Raider]]s, and the WHFB Chaos Daemons Codex made by your [[Matt Ward\|Spiritual Liege]] in general.

1d4chan>Kracked Mynd: /* What is it? */

2019-02-04T05:54:44Z

What is it?

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	The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but then again, our Spiritual Liege also has them using daemonhosts in combat, so at this point, much of /tg/ isn't surprised.		The Ulumeathi Plasma Syphon is a unique piece of defensive wargear that can only be assigned to an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor. Fluff-wise, its a piece of xeno-tech that contains an array of crystals that resonate certain frequencies that destabilize the flight of plasma bolts, making any kind of plasma weapon unable to shoot accurately once they are under the influence of the syphon. More free-thinking (see: Radical) Ordo Xenos Inquisitors may sometimes use these in combat. Why the Grey Knights would tolerate this blatant heresy is unknown, but then again, our Spiritual Liege also has them using daemonhosts in combat, so at this point, much of /tg/ isn't surprised.

	Crunch-wise, when equipped, it makes any unit firing a plasma-type weapon within 12" of the Inquisitor as BS1 - functionally ensuring that any Plasma-firing unit will never be able to hit what its firing at unless it's a blast or large blast template (in which case it can still go wildly off-course with an unlucky roll, although it potentially can krump anyone near the inquisitor). What this basically means is that Plasma Weapons - long the Imperial's go-to weapon for dealing with heavy infantry - can be rendered completely irrelevant by strategic use of an Inquisitor as a screening unit. Thanks to some very sketchy errata by [[Matt Ward\|~~Faggot Prime~~]], the Plasma Syphon also affects Tyranid Bio-Plasma, Tau Pulse Weapons (which makes extra no-sense as pulse weapons are demonstrably not plasma, as Tau HAVE Plasma weapons and these are different), Eldar Starcannons, and Dark Eldar Disintegrators - just for starters. All in all the concept isn't such a terrible idea and could be a nice addition to [[Dark Eldar\|an army with vulnerable commanders]], but that's not what we are talking about here.		Crunch-wise, when equipped, it makes any unit firing a plasma-type weapon within 12" of the Inquisitor as BS1 - functionally ensuring that any Plasma-firing unit will never be able to hit what its firing at unless it's a blast or large blast template (in which case it can still go wildly off-course with an unlucky roll, although it potentially can krump anyone near the inquisitor). What this basically means is that Plasma Weapons - long the Imperial's go-to weapon for dealing with heavy infantry - can be rendered completely irrelevant by strategic use of an Inquisitor as a screening unit. Thanks to some very sketchy errata by [[Matt Ward\|Our Spiritual Liege]], the Plasma Syphon also affects Tyranid Bio-Plasma, Tau Pulse Weapons (which makes extra no-sense as pulse weapons are demonstrably not plasma, as Tau HAVE Plasma weapons and these are different), Eldar Starcannons, and Dark Eldar Disintegrators - just for starters. All in all the concept isn't such a terrible idea and could be a nice addition to [[Dark Eldar\|an army with vulnerable commanders]], but that's not what we are talking about here.

	Because an Army with 2+ armor saves and W2 terminators throughout needed more survivability, obviously.		Because an Army with 2+ armor saves and W2 terminators throughout needed more survivability, obviously.

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2018-05-22T18:28:14Z

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	*Then again with 6th there're a whole lot of other AP2 weapons other than plasma or most players just unload an insane number of wounds making butthurt over this kinda pointless.		*Then again with 6th there're a whole lot of other AP2 weapons other than plasma or most players just unload an insane number of wounds making butthurt over this kinda pointless.
	**Last poster is correct. The meta is full of so much AP2 now that terminators are less the juggernauts they once were and are essentially guardsmen vs AP- weapons, with their 5++ save. The Syphon is not broken. ~~<s>~~Errata has also stated that it only works on weapons named plasma, no longer against Tau pulse weapons or anything else like that~~.</s> As of the 2016 FAQs~~, ~~if it has '~~plasma~~' in the name, it's affected by the~~ plasma ~~syphon, including Tau Empire plasma rifles (explicitly mentioned in the FAQ~~).		**Last poster is correct. The meta is full of so much AP2 now that terminators are less the juggernauts they once were and are essentially guardsmen vs AP- weapons, with their 5++ save. The Syphon is not broken. Errata has also stated that it only works on weapons named plasma, no longer against Tau pulse weapons or anything else like that, just plasma (remember Crisis suits can have S6 plasma guns).
	***As of 7th, the ''primary'' issue with this is at least somewhat allayed in that rules which involve measuring distance from a model only work while the model is embarked if the rule explicitly says it does, which the Syphon does not (nor has it ever), so your Inquisitor has to disembark to get his Syphon out. As noted above, what with the new-found ubiquity of non-plasma AP2 weaponry, like the extremely undercosted grav-cannon, it's not the worst thing ever any more.		***As of 7th, the ''primary'' issue with this is at least somewhat allayed in that rules which involve measuring distance from a model only work while the model is embarked if the rule explicitly says it does, which the Syphon does not (nor has it ever), so your Inquisitor has to disembark to get his Syphon out. As noted above, what with the new-found ubiquity of non-plasma AP2 weaponry, like the extremely undercosted grav-cannon, it's not the worst thing ever any more.
	*** In 8th Edition the Plasma Syphon is a no longer a thing. . However if a future Inquisition codex does bring it back. It would be quite pointless, as Plasma has been upgraded across the board. A huge boon to all Imperium players, except Grey Knights. Inquisitors also have the option of being Psykers, deprecating the need for the Syphon. More so if they use the Terrify physic power.		*** In 8th Edition the Plasma Syphon is a no longer a thing. . However if a future Inquisition codex does bring it back. It would be quite pointless, as Plasma has been upgraded across the board. A huge boon to all Imperium players, except Grey Knights. Inquisitors also have the option of being Psykers, deprecating the need for the Syphon. More so if they use the Terrify physic power.