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	In short plot armour in sci-fi and fantasy stories is done to allow a writer to tell a story, as the main character or characters being killed off too quickly might impede the great work the author imagines, even if said situations grow a little too improbable (especially if super demons or full on nuclear attacks are involved). Heck, the universe has thrown every monster horror in its basement at [[Doctor_Who\|the Doctor]] and he just can't be killed (well, permakilled. He's died 13 times in the past 2100 years, which is still a hella long lifespan).		In short plot armour in sci-fi and fantasy stories is done to allow a writer to tell a story, as the main character or characters being killed off too quickly might impede the great work the author imagines, even if said situations grow a little too improbable (especially if super demons or full on nuclear attacks are involved). Heck, the universe has thrown every monster horror in its basement at [[Doctor_Who\|the Doctor]] and he just can't be killed (well, permakilled. He's died 13 times in the past 2100 years, which is still a hella long lifespan).

			Fun Fact: Plot Armour is forged from Bullshitium Alloy.

	==Forms==		==Forms==

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	==Individuals who wear the armour of all-defying-protectiveness==		==Individuals who wear the armour of all-defying-protectiveness==

	Please remember that, though all [[Mary Sue\|Mary Sues]] carry a full plate of impossibly well-crafted Plot [[Brits\|Armour]] that covers every inch of their bodies while being completely invisible to show off their ludicrously perfect outfits, Plot [[Brits\|Armour]] doesn't need to indicate a character is a [[Mary Sue]]. Most main characters have this extra protection from the author of the story in question, and without it there wouldn't be a story about this strappin' young lad who beats the odds and wins the prize - he would just die like some nobody because nothing makes him able to do his magic. So, this list is a list of people who seriously overuse the Plot [[Brits\|Armour]] they are given like proper [[Mary Sue\|Suies]], not actual users of it. If we were to make a list of ''those'', we would have to list every fucking main character ever created since the Epic of Gilgamesh.		Please remember that, though all [[Mary Sue\|Mary Sues]] carry a full plate of impossibly well-crafted Plot [[Brits\|Armour]] that covers every inch of their bodies while being completely invisible to show off their ludicrously perfect outfits and/or bodies, Plot [[Brits\|Armour]] doesn't need to indicate a character is a [[Mary Sue]]. Most main characters have this extra protection from the author of the story in question, and without it there wouldn't be a story about this strappin' young lad who beats the odds and wins the prize - he would just die like some nobody because nothing makes him able to do his magic. So, this list is a list of people who seriously overuse the Plot [[Brits\|Armour]] they are given like proper [[Mary Sue\|Suies]], not actual users of it. If we were to make a list of ''those'', we would have to list every fucking main character ever created since the Epic of Gilgamesh.

	==Exceptions: Players voluntarily dropping advantages similar to Plot-Armor==		==Exceptions: Players voluntarily dropping advantages similar to Plot-Armor==

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	Plot armor can take many forms:		Plot armor can take many forms:
	* hidden die rolls that "miss"		* hidden die rolls that "miss"
	* ~~surprise~~ reinforcements		* [[Creed\|Surprise reinforcements]]
	* some type of armour/clothing that renders most/all attacks useless or inert on the wearer		* some type of armour/clothing that renders most/all attacks useless or inert on the wearer
	* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BedouinRescueService Bedouin Rescue Service], unlikely rescue from a hostile environment, ~~often~~ a desert ~~hence~~ the ~~name, or situation~~.		* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BedouinRescueService Bedouin Rescue Service] - an unlikely rescue from a hostile environment, such as a wandering desert caravan picking up the dehydrated and presumably dying hero to nurse them back to health.
	* '''Deus Ex Machina''': A specific form of Plot armor can be the clumsy use of a Deus Ex Machina. A Deus Ex Machina or, "god from the machine" (wait a minute, that means we can start calling the [[Omnissiah]] a Deus Ex Machina! Probably tech-heresy, but still!) means ~~a macguffin, a widget or~~ something that utterly solves the problems of the story like the opposite of [[Old Man Henderson]]~~. Example: the common cold killing all the Martians in the War of the Worlds (which is also one of the few times a Machina has been used well~~, ~~and well-foreshadowed assuming the reader knows their biology)~~. A Deus Ex Machina is armor FOR the plot and makes sure that the outcome the GM or author wanted to happen, happens. Using Deus Ex Machina too often and so little as two times~~. Will~~ make most people turn against the story and even the author themselves.		* '''Deus Ex Machina''': A specific form of Plot armor can be the clumsy use of a Deus Ex Machina. A Deus Ex Machina or, "god from the machine" (wait a minute, that means we can start calling the [[Omnissiah]] a Deus Ex Machina! Probably tech-heresy, but still!) means something that utterly solves the problems of the story like the opposite of [[Old Man Henderson]], often with little buildup. A Deus Ex Machina is armor FOR the plot and makes sure that the outcome the GM or author wanted to happen, happens. Using Deus Ex Machina too often and so little as two times will make most people turn against the story and even the author themselves.
			** For a example of this: the common cold killing all the Martians in the War of the Worlds (which is one of the few times a Machina has been used well, and well-foreshadowed assuming the reader knows their biology).
	**Notably the German author Walter Moers had a character called Dues X. Machina whose job is going around the world saving people's lives at the last minute.		**Notably the German author Walter Moers had a character called Dues X. Machina whose job is going around the world saving people's lives at the last minute.
	* A '~~forgone conclusion~~' ~~can grant a character a degree of plot armor~~: ~~for example, if~~ a character from a chronologically later work shows up in a prequel work (such as Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy) or if the work is presented as a character's memoirs (such as [[Ciaphas Cain]]), they ~~must logically~~ survive to the end of the work ~~in some manner~~ (though~~, of course,~~ this does not prevent them from struggling~~/losing in~~ the ~~work itself~~). People will only really start ''complaining'' about plot armor if the prequel itself handles the matter in a really stupid way (such as Skynet constantly coming back to full operation no matter how many times it gets defeated in the past).		* '''Forgone Conclusion''': If a character from a chronologically later work shows up in a prequel work (such as Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy) or if the work is presented as a character's memoirs (such as [[Ciaphas Cain]]), they gain a degree of plot armor in that they ''will'' survive to the end of the work no matter what they might face (though this does not prevent them from struggling along the way; we know Anakin will become Darth Vader, but we didn't know he lost an arm to Dooku before the prequels came out).
			** This is generally considered one of the more acceptable forms of Plot Armor, since, y'know, it's necessary for basic narrative consistency. People will only really start ''complaining'' about plot armor if the prequel itself handles the matter in a really stupid way (such as Skynet constantly coming back to full operation no matter how many times it gets defeated in the past).

	In [[role-playing game]]s, there can be a mechanism for plot armor, where player characters (and potentially very important [[NPC]]s) have "fate" or "karma" points that can be spent to offset bad rolls or shrug off injuries, or just many more hit points than anything else around them.		In [[role-playing game]]s, there can be a mechanism for plot armor, where player characters (and potentially very important [[NPC]]s) have "fate" or "karma" points that can be spent to offset bad rolls or shrug off injuries, or just many more hit points than anything else around them.

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	One of the best examples for this is the ''Baldur's Gate'' series. With only very few (and minor) exceptions, all challenges in the story are thrown at '''you''', not at a sequence you can lean back and watch. At best, one can only honestly blame it for a few story/logic inconsistencies performed by opponents. Dark Souls is another example of a series with no plot armor. if you want to advance and complete the game you must either have or develop real skill, and there's no relying on fate to give you a lucky hit. You will die, over and over and over again, but that makes victory all the sweeter. Of course, it also has a steeper learning curve than Mount Rushmore thanks to this sink-or-swim mentality, but it didn't develop a huge and impossibly smug fanbase for nothing. Darkest Dungeon is also a good example, where you will send adventurers (so your characters) to their deaths over and over again with no way to bring them back if they end up having a heart attack from being splashed with some wine by a walking skeleton in some ruins or if they suddenly decide that they want to have a sip of whatever was in the barrel they found inside the sewers populated by murderous pigmen that use human skins to fashion their clothes (the game itself starts by telling you that you'll lose characters and face situations that will have no good outcome for your team).		One of the best examples for this is the ''Baldur's Gate'' series. With only very few (and minor) exceptions, all challenges in the story are thrown at '''you''', not at a sequence you can lean back and watch. At best, one can only honestly blame it for a few story/logic inconsistencies performed by opponents. Dark Souls is another example of a series with no plot armor. if you want to advance and complete the game you must either have or develop real skill, and there's no relying on fate to give you a lucky hit. You will die, over and over and over again, but that makes victory all the sweeter. Of course, it also has a steeper learning curve than Mount Rushmore thanks to this sink-or-swim mentality, but it didn't develop a huge and impossibly smug fanbase for nothing. Darkest Dungeon is also a good example, where you will send adventurers (so your characters) to their deaths over and over again with no way to bring them back if they end up having a heart attack from being splashed with some wine by a walking skeleton in some ruins or if they suddenly decide that they want to have a sip of whatever was in the barrel they found inside the sewers populated by murderous pigmen that use human skins to fashion their clothes (the game itself starts by telling you that you'll lose characters and face situations that will have no good outcome for your team).

	While absolutely not tied to any plot, the most important and difficult step is one of tremendous discipline: the so-called "No-Reload Challenge" which basically only allows you to load a savegame to continue playing, never to rewind a death or similar unfavorable outcome. Add increased difficulty and a few mods onto this, and if you survive a game like Baldur's Gate without a million repeated attempts, you're (mentally) ready for lethal adventure. We're speaking of a true far cry from modern games here, a game that throws your 4-10 Hit Point Character into a world where your stereotypical lowlevel wolf enemy hits you for 17, bears for 32, and where early story "assassins" are not the dumbed-down incompetents you know, but out-level you by ridiculous amounts.		While absolutely not tied to any plot, the most important and difficult step is one of tremendous discipline: the so-called "No-Reload Challenge" (also know as "Iron Man" in some games where it comes as a supported mode) which basically only allows you to load a savegame to continue playing, never to rewind a death or similar unfavorable outcome. Add increased difficulty and a few mods onto this, and if you survive a game like Baldur's Gate without a million repeated attempts, you're (mentally) ready for lethal adventure. We're speaking of a true far cry from modern games here, a game that throws your 4-10 Hit Point Character into a world where your stereotypical lowlevel wolf enemy hits you for 17, bears for 32, and where early story "assassins" are not the dumbed-down incompetents you know, but out-level you by ridiculous amounts.

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	In some Fluff terms like D&D even HP can be considered Plot Armor as it represents not only your physique but also can be your luck. No amount of damage can kill or maim you as long as you have 1HP left, even if that Dragon flame should logically cook you in your armour on contact.		In some Fluff terms like D&D even HP can be considered Plot Armor as it represents not only your physique but also can be your luck. No amount of damage can kill or maim you as long as you have 1HP left, even if that Dragon flame should logically cook you in your armour on contact.

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	~~EDIT from a random guy reading this:~~

	STOP COMPARING PEOPLE IN FICTIONAL (fantasy/sci-fi) WORLDS TO REAL LIFE PEOPLE, they are almost always WAY stronger/faster/tougher than you will ever hope to be. Guns should be worse than useless in a world like One Piece where VERY weak pirates can smash each other through buildings and dodge lightning, a lvl 10 D&D adventurer can massacre an entire platoon of real life special forces agents without even trying just by virtue of all the shit he can facetank and survive (dragon breath, massive rocks thrown by giants, lightning bolts, METEORS and all kinds of spells)
	~~Also no amount of """""""""luck""""""""" will EVER let a normal human survive/dodge a 120ft AoE whatever that most spellcasters/strong monsters can throw at you.~~

	~~Thanks for Reading, I am merely trying to out and end to this overly stupid comparisons :)~~
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	Interestingly enough, plot armour is now genuinely Star Wars canon, an example of showing that so long as the god-like power of your universe (IE the GM/DM) wants you not-dead, you shall be not-dead. Sort of like Guilliman. ''All is as the Force wills it.''		Interestingly enough, plot armour is now genuinely Star Wars canon, an example of showing that so long as the god-like power of your universe (IE the GM/DM) wants you not-dead, you shall be not-dead. Sort of like Guilliman. ''All is as the Force wills it.''

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	STOP COMPARING PEOPLE IN FICTIONAL (fantasy/sci-fi) WORLDS TO REAL LIFE PEOPLE, they are almost always WAY stronger/faster/tougher than you will ever hope to be. Guns should be worse than useless in a world like One Piece where VERY weak pirates can smash each other through buildings and dodge lightning, a lvl 10 D&D adventurer can massacre an entire platoon of real life special forces agents without even trying just by virtue of all the shit he can facetank and survive (dragon breath, massive rocks thrown by giants, lightning bolts, METEORS and all kinds of spells)		STOP COMPARING PEOPLE IN FICTIONAL (fantasy/sci-fi) WORLDS TO REAL LIFE PEOPLE, they are almost always WAY stronger/faster/tougher than you will ever hope to be. Guns should be worse than useless in a world like One Piece where VERY weak pirates can smash each other through buildings and dodge lightning, a lvl 10 D&D adventurer can massacre an entire platoon of real life special forces agents without even trying just by virtue of all the shit he can facetank and survive (dragon breath, massive rocks thrown by giants, lightning bolts, METEORS and all kinds of spells)
	Also no amount of """""""""luck""""""""" will EVER let a normal human survive a 120ft AoE whatever that most spellcasters/strong monsters can throw at you.		Also no amount of """""""""luck""""""""" will EVER let a normal human survive/dodge a 120ft AoE whatever that most spellcasters/strong monsters can throw at you.

	Thanks for Reading, I am merely trying to out and end to this overly stupid comparisons :)		Thanks for Reading, I am merely trying to out and end to this overly stupid comparisons :)

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	In some Fluff terms like D&D even HP can be considered Plot Armor as it represents not only your physique but also can be your luck. No amount of damage can kill or maim you as long as you have 1HP left, even if that Dragon flame should logically cook you in your armour on contact.		In some Fluff terms like D&D even HP can be considered Plot Armor as it represents not only your physique but also can be your luck. No amount of damage can kill or maim you as long as you have 1HP left, even if that Dragon flame should logically cook you in your armour on contact.

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			EDIT from a random guy reading this:

			STOP COMPARING PEOPLE IN FICTIONAL (fantasy/sci-fi) WORLDS TO REAL LIFE PEOPLE, they are almost always WAY stronger/faster/tougher than you will ever hope to be. Guns should be worse than useless in a world like One Piece where VERY weak pirates can smash each other through buildings and dodge lightning, a lvl 10 D&D adventurer can massacre an entire platoon of real life special forces agents without even trying just by virtue of all the shit he can facetank and survive (dragon breath, massive rocks thrown by giants, lightning bolts, METEORS and all kinds of spells)
			Also no amount of """""""""luck""""""""" will EVER let a normal human survive a 120ft AoE whatever that most spellcasters/strong monsters can throw at you.

			Thanks for Reading, I am merely trying to out and end to this overly stupid comparisons :)
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	Interestingly enough, plot armour is now genuinely Star Wars canon, an example of showing that so long as the god-like power of your universe (IE the GM/DM) wants you not-dead, you shall be not-dead. Sort of like Guilliman. ''All is as the Force wills it.''		Interestingly enough, plot armour is now genuinely Star Wars canon, an example of showing that so long as the god-like power of your universe (IE the GM/DM) wants you not-dead, you shall be not-dead. Sort of like Guilliman. ''All is as the Force wills it.''

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	* '''Deus Ex Machina''': A specific form of Plot armor can be the clumsy use of a Deus Ex Machina. A Deus Ex Machina or, "god from the machine" (wait a minute, that means we can start calling the [[Omnissiah]] a Deus Ex Machina! Probably tech-heresy, but still!) means a macguffin, a widget or something that utterly solves the problems of the story like the opposite of [[Old Man Henderson]]. Example: the common cold killing all the Martians in the War of the Worlds (which is also one of the few times a Machina has been used well, and well-foreshadowed assuming the reader knows their biology). A Deus Ex Machina is armor FOR the plot and makes sure that the outcome the GM or author wanted to happen, happens. Using Deus Ex Machina too often and so little as two times. Will make most people turn against the story and even the author themselves.		* '''Deus Ex Machina''': A specific form of Plot armor can be the clumsy use of a Deus Ex Machina. A Deus Ex Machina or, "god from the machine" (wait a minute, that means we can start calling the [[Omnissiah]] a Deus Ex Machina! Probably tech-heresy, but still!) means a macguffin, a widget or something that utterly solves the problems of the story like the opposite of [[Old Man Henderson]]. Example: the common cold killing all the Martians in the War of the Worlds (which is also one of the few times a Machina has been used well, and well-foreshadowed assuming the reader knows their biology). A Deus Ex Machina is armor FOR the plot and makes sure that the outcome the GM or author wanted to happen, happens. Using Deus Ex Machina too often and so little as two times. Will make most people turn against the story and even the author themselves.
	**Notably the German author Walter Moers had a character called Dues X. Machina whose job is going around the world saving people's lives at the last minute.		**Notably the German author Walter Moers had a character called Dues X. Machina whose job is going around the world saving people's lives at the last minute.
	* A 'forgone conclusion' can grant a character a degree of plot armor: for example, if a character from a chronologically later work shows up in a prequel work (such as Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy) or if the work is presented as a character's memoirs (such as [[Ciaphas Cain]]), they must logically survive to the end of the work in some manner (though, of course, this does not prevent them from struggling/losing in the work itself).		* A 'forgone conclusion' can grant a character a degree of plot armor: for example, if a character from a chronologically later work shows up in a prequel work (such as Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy) or if the work is presented as a character's memoirs (such as [[Ciaphas Cain]]), they must logically survive to the end of the work in some manner (though, of course, this does not prevent them from struggling/losing in the work itself). People will only really start ''complaining'' about plot armor if the prequel itself handles the matter in a really stupid way (such as Skynet constantly coming back to full operation no matter how many times it gets defeated in the past).

	In [[role-playing game]]s, there can be a mechanism for plot armor, where player characters (and potentially very important [[NPC]]s) have "fate" or "karma" points that can be spent to offset bad rolls or shrug off injuries, or just many more hit points than anything else around them.		In [[role-playing game]]s, there can be a mechanism for plot armor, where player characters (and potentially very important [[NPC]]s) have "fate" or "karma" points that can be spent to offset bad rolls or shrug off injuries, or just many more hit points than anything else around them.