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	'''Possessed Marines''' are [[Chaos Space Marines]] who decided that just worshiping the [[Chaos Gods\|Dark Gods]] was not enough, and decided to show their devotion by allowing [[daemon]]s to enter their bodies. It is worth noting that, unlike in most cases of daemonic possession, the daemon inside a Possessed Marine never devours the soul or mind of its host; the two minds instead work in concert to bring as much death and slaughter to their enemies as they can. However, according to the Death Guard Codex the soul of a Possessed Marine becomes a plaything of the Daemon who possessed him upon death, so in the long term they still sold their soul. The bodies of the hosts are wracked with unpleasant looking mutations as the daemons inside gear them towards [[Rip and tear\|RIPPING AND TEARING]], often growing talons and pincers easily capable of shredding or crushing [[power armor]], yawning maws filled with razor sharp teeth, and copious amounts of tentacles, spikes and horns. Some Possessed might even develop the ability to [[Awesome\|spit out torrents of warpfire from their mouths or sprout wings which allows them to fly]]. Possessed Marines also occasionally serve as [[Navigator]]s for Chaos ships, the daemon gazing into the eddies of the Warp and the (post-)human 'translating' what his daemon pal sees into orders for the ship's crew. It doesn't take a genius to see how bad it is for the Imperium that their arch nemesis can basically mass-produce Navigator analogues.		'''Possessed Marines''' are [[Chaos Space Marines]] who decided that just worshiping the [[Chaos Gods\|Dark Gods]] was not enough, and decided to show their devotion by allowing [[daemon]]s to enter their bodies. It is worth noting that, unlike in most cases of daemonic possession, the daemon inside a Possessed Marine never devours the soul or mind of its host; the two minds instead work in concert to bring as much death and slaughter to their enemies as they can. However, according to the Death Guard Codex the soul of a Possessed Marine becomes a plaything of the Daemon who possessed him upon death, so in the long term they still sold their soul. The bodies of the hosts are wracked with unpleasant looking mutations as the daemons inside gear them towards [[Rip and tear\|RIPPING AND TEARING]], often growing talons and pincers easily capable of shredding or crushing [[power armor]], yawning maws filled with razor sharp teeth, and copious amounts of tentacles, spikes and horns. Some Possessed might even develop the ability to [[Awesome\|spit out torrents of warpfire from their mouths or sprout wings which allows them to fly]]. Possessed Marines also occasionally serve as [[Navigator]]s for Chaos ships, the daemon gazing into the eddies of the Warp and the (post-)human 'translating' what his daemon pal sees into orders for the ship's crew. It doesn't take a genius to see how bad it is for the Imperium that their arch nemesis can basically mass-produce Navigator analogues.

	In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.		In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the [[Gal Vorbak]] Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The [[Gal Vorbak]] in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.

	Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.		Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.

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	In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.		In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.

	Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.		Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.

	== On the Tabletop ==		== On the Tabletop ==

2001:8003:1C20:8C00:6D93:A45B:F549:A177: The Eightbounds existence means the WE absolutely don't see Possessed as 'reeking of unmanly sorcery'

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The Eightbounds existence means the WE absolutely don't see Possessed as 'reeking of unmanly sorcery'

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	In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.		In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.

	Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[World Eaters]] do not actively seek possession out for it reeks of unmanly sorcery; however as seen with the Daemonkin and the more recent [[The Eightbound]], when mortal and daemonic servants of Khorne do team up Possessed eventually turn up as well. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.		Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.

	== On the Tabletop ==		== On the Tabletop ==

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	[[File:PossessedChaosSpaceMarines2.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|And that's when they are in a good mood. Maybe those T'au will believe in the existence of Chaos now.]]		[[File:PossessedChaosSpaceMarines2.jpg\|400px\|thumb\|right\|And that's when they are in a good mood. Maybe those T'au will believe in the existence of Chaos now.]]

	'''Possessed Marines''' are [[Chaos Space Marines]] who decided that just worshiping the [[Chaos Gods\|Dark Gods]] was not enough, and decided to show their devotion by allowing [[daemon]]s to enter their bodies. It is worth noting that, unlike in most cases of daemonic possession, the daemon inside a Possessed Marine never devours the soul or mind of its host; the two minds instead work in concert to bring as much death and slaughter to their enemies as they can. However, according to the Death Guard Codex the soul of a Possessed Marine becomes a plaything of the Daemon who possessed him upon death, so in the long term they still sold their soul. The bodies of the hosts are wracked with unpleasant looking mutations as the daemons inside gear them towards [[Rip and tear\|RIPPING AND TEARING]], often growing talons and pincers easily capable of shredding or crushing [[power armor]], yawning maws filled with razor sharp teeth, and copious amounts of tentacles, spikes and horns. Some Possessed might even develop the ability to [[Awesome\|spit out torrents of warpfire from their mouths or sprout wings which allows them to fly]]. Possessed Marines also occasionally serve as [[Navigator]]s for Chaos ships, the daemon gazing into the eddies of the Warp and the (post-)human 'translating' what his daemon pal sees into orders for the ship's crew. It doesn't take a genius to see how bad it is for the Imperium that their arch nemesis can basically mass-produce Navigator analogues.		'''Possessed Marines''' are [[Chaos Space Marines]] who decided that just worshiping the [[Chaos Gods\|Dark Gods]] was not enough, and decided to show their devotion by allowing [[daemon]]s to enter their bodies. It is worth noting that, unlike in most cases of daemonic possession, the daemon inside a Possessed Marine never devours the soul or mind of its host; the two minds instead work in concert to bring as much death and slaughter to their enemies as they can. However, according to the Death Guard Codex the soul of a Possessed Marine becomes a plaything of the Daemon who possessed him upon death, so in the long term they still sold their soul. The bodies of the hosts are wracked with unpleasant looking mutations as the daemons inside gear them towards [[Rip and tear\|RIPPING AND TEARING]], often growing talons and pincers easily capable of shredding or crushing [[power armor]], yawning maws filled with razor sharp teeth, and copious amounts of tentacles, spikes and horns. Some Possessed might even develop the ability to [[Awesome\|spit out torrents of warpfire from their mouths or sprout wings which allows them to fly]]. Possessed Marines also occasionally serve as [[Navigator]]s for Chaos ships, the daemon gazing into the eddies of the Warp and the (post-)human 'translating' what his daemon pal sees into orders for the ship's crew. It doesn't take a genius to see how bad it is for the Imperium that their arch nemesis can basically mass-produce Navigator analogues.

	In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.		In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.

	Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[World Eaters]] do not actively seek possession out, for it reeks of unmanly sorcery; however as seen with the Daemonkin, when mortal and daemonic servants of Khorne do team up Possessed eventually turn up as well. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.		Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[World Eaters]] do not actively seek possession out for it reeks of unmanly sorcery; however as seen with the Daemonkin and the more recent [[The Eightbound]], when mortal and daemonic servants of Khorne do team up Possessed eventually turn up as well. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.

	== On the Tabletop ==		== On the Tabletop ==

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	In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.		In the [[Black Library]] books, the first Possessed Marines belonged to the [[Word Bearers]], specifically the Gal Vorbak Chapter (Blessed Sons in Colchisian), so dubbed by their [[Primarch]] [[Lorgar]] after they survived their journey into the warp. The Gal Vorbak in fact had the unique ability of looking human (well, Space Marine human) and then shifting into a daemonic form at will. They were the future of the symbiosis that Lorgar saw between Space Marine and daemon. They also doubled as being the Possessed Marines that every Chaos player wanted for forever, with statlines that show what a rape-engine daemonically possessed Space Marines should/can be. In 40K, units of Possessed count as core choices for WB armies.

	Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[World Eaters]] do not actively seek possession out, for it reeks of unmanly sorcery; however as seen with the Daemonkin, when mortal and daemonic servants of Khorne do team up Possessed eventually turn up as well. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either.		Exactly how Traitor Marines view possession will vary depending on which Legion they're from. Possession is highly favorable among the Word Bearers and the [[Black Legion]]. The [[World Eaters]] do not actively seek possession out, for it reeks of unmanly sorcery; however as seen with the Daemonkin, when mortal and daemonic servants of Khorne do team up Possessed eventually turn up as well. The [[Iron Warriors]] will occasionally utilize Possessed Marines, though their idea of possession usually involves using an [[rape\|unwilling]] daemon as a reactor to power a bunch of crazy bionics and servo-[[Abaddon\|arms]]. The [[Night Lords]] disdain possession because they disdain [[Chaos]] itself. The [[Death Guard]] do not frown upon the Possessed, but only the most zealous do it because most of them are content with the blessings [[Nurgle]] already gave them. There is no knowledge of how the [[Alpha Legion]] feels, but like so much of the Alpha Legion, that's normal. Amusingly enough, there's also no indication what the [[Emperor's Children]] think about it either. A new Chaos worshipping delegate made off with a bunch of them from the [[Exorcists]] to form the Swords of Epiphany Chaos Warband.

	== On the Tabletop ==		== On the Tabletop ==

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	===Ninth Edition===		===Ninth Edition===

	New models and statline change Possessed from a horde unit into a beefier terminator equivalent (40mm bases included) - looking to occupy the void left by zerkers essentially leaving the CSM roster to go join World Eaters in their brand new codex. The plus side thus far is that they get a galloping 9" move and throw down with 5 attacks of their otherwise unchanged weapons coupled with the ~~two wounds~~ that ~~will now be standard on Space Marines~~ of ~~all flavours~~.		New models and statline change Possessed from a horde unit into a beefier terminator equivalent (40mm bases included) - looking to occupy the void left by zerkers essentially leaving the CSM roster to go join World Eaters in their brand new codex. The plus side thus far is that they get a galloping 9" move and throw down with 5 attacks of their otherwise unchanged weapons coupled with three wounds apiece. The downside? Well along with losing Berzerkers and Mutilators, we're also losing the Greater Possessed in 9th. Mind, if that comes at the expense of better possessed that have a distinct battlefield role separate from termies or chosen, then that sounds like a more efficient streamlining.

	== Greater Possessed ==		== Greater Possessed ==