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1d4chan>Piroko: /* In Card Games */

2023-04-30T17:52:52Z

In Card Games

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	Do what you would do with wargamers, don't play with that person who is playing that [[Rage\|top dier netdeck who solely wants to beat you]], just leave him alone and refuse to play, maybe go off and play [[Commander]]. HA HA HA HA HA. Let me introduce you to my Hanna, Ship's Navigator stax/prison deck, where you sit under a Stasis lock for 40 turns while I slowly topdeck into a wincon. Fuck your fun, I'm going to drink your tears from a ''mug''.		Do what you would do with wargamers, don't play with that person who is playing that [[Rage\|top dier netdeck who solely wants to beat you]], just leave him alone and refuse to play, maybe go off and play [[Commander]]. HA HA HA HA HA. Let me introduce you to my Hanna, Ship's Navigator stax/prison deck, where you sit under a Stasis lock for 40 turns while I slowly topdeck into a wincon. Fuck your fun, I'm going to drink your tears from a ''mug''.

	Using MTG as the guide... power gamers tend to concentrate in the older formats where power levels and old combos mean pretty much every competitive deck has to be built around some sort of combo superweapon and the question is who can build theirs first. Whilst there are powergamers in Standard, the restricted nature of the format limits how dangerous they can be.		Using MTG as the guide... power gamers tend to concentrate in the older formats where power levels and old combos mean pretty much every competitive deck has to be built around some sort of combo superweapon and the question is who can build theirs first. Whilst there are powergamers in Standard, the restricted nature of the format limits how dangerous they can be. Those that do exist need deep pockets to keep on top of FOTM; they will always be buying into whatever is on the rise.

	Draft formats destroy powergamers entirely due to the random chance element of draft deck building.		Draft formats destroy powergamers entirely due to the random chance element of draft deck building.

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	In wargaming, powergamers are less likely to be referred to as such due to its association with level-scaling systems; they are instead typically referred to as '''"tourneyfags"''', "'''WAAC''' players" (standing for Win At All Costs), “try-hards” or merely "competitive players" which are generally [[Skub\|neutral]] terms. Powergamers are especially hated in the wargaming community as they typically exude a noxious odor, have no interest in fun besides their own and are the number one reason people new to the hobby ragequit immediately.		In wargaming, powergamers are less likely to be referred to as such due to its association with level-scaling systems; they are instead typically referred to as '''"tourneyfags"''', "'''WAAC''' players" (standing for Win At All Costs), “try-hards” or merely "competitive players" which are generally [[Skub\|neutral]] terms. Powergamers are especially hated in the wargaming community as they typically exude a noxious odor, have no interest in fun besides their own and are the number one reason people new to the hobby ragequit immediately.

	A somewhat milder term with a similar meaning is "'''optimiser'''", which generally lacks the negative connotations of 'powergamer', in that they won't typically suck the fun out of anything they touch. An optimiser wants to beat the game, but at least realizes you need to have at least two to play it so he isn't a jerk about it.		A somewhat milder term with a similar meaning is "'''optimiser'''", which generally lacks the negative connotations of 'powergamer', in that they won't typically suck the fun out of anything they touch. An optimiser wants to beat the game, but at least realizes you need to have at least two to play it so he isn't a jerk about it. Also the term lacks negative connotations in single player or one player one game director situations as there is no one else to annoy.

	=== Munchkins ===		=== Munchkins ===

1d4chan>Kirbanzo: /* Examples of Powergamers/Munchkins */

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Examples of Powergamers/Munchkins

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	*Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory, who also uses custom cards, and munchkins his way around a group ban on "home-made" cards by making them at work.		*Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory, who also uses custom cards, and munchkins his way around a group ban on "home-made" cards by making them at work.
	*Pretty much any meta chaser whale who immediately buys whatever OP shit that just got put out is one by default.		*Pretty much any meta chaser whale who immediately buys whatever OP shit that just got put out is one by default.
			*[[Tau]] players that use [[Fish of Fury]], to the chagrin of everyone else, even other Tau players.

	[[Image:timmy-power-gamer 2020.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\| No matter the era, Timmy is always there.]]		[[Image:timmy-power-gamer 2020.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\| No matter the era, Timmy is always there.]]

1d4chan>MrPhantom: /* Examples of Powergamers/Munchkins */

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Examples of Powergamers/Munchkins

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	*Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons, when he makes custom Pokemon, Digimon, and/or Yu-Gi-Oh trading cards		*Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons, when he makes custom Pokemon, Digimon, and/or Yu-Gi-Oh trading cards
	*Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory, who also uses custom cards, and munchkins his way around a group ban on "home-made" cards by making them at work.		*Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory, who also uses custom cards, and munchkins his way around a group ban on "home-made" cards by making them at work.
			*Pretty much any meta chaser whale who immediately buys whatever OP shit that just got put out is one by default.

	[[Image:timmy-power-gamer 2020.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\| No matter the era, Timmy is always there.]]		[[Image:timmy-power-gamer 2020.jpg\|thumb\|300px\|right\| No matter the era, Timmy is always there.]]

1d4chan>Rocko1345: /* A Less Eloquent Summary */

2022-04-15T15:43:37Z

A Less Eloquent Summary

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	Did you know that it's theoretically possible for a player in the original [[World of Darkness]] to have the powers of [[Vampire: The Masquerade\|a vampire]], [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse\|a werewolf]], ''and'' [[Mage: The Ascension\|a mage]] '''[https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Samuel_Haight at the same fucking time]'''? Why even bring a fucking party?!		Did you know that it's theoretically possible for a player in the original [[World of Darkness]] to have the powers of [[Vampire: The Masquerade\|a vampire]], [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse\|a werewolf]], ''and'' [[Mage: The Ascension\|a mage]] '''[https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Samuel_Haight at the same fucking time]'''? Why even bring a fucking party?!

			Do you like having your [[Yugioh\|entire deck nullified and negated by]] [https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Ash_Blossom_%26_Joyous_Spring\| one card], do you like sitting for there for 20 minutes while some chucklefuck keeps shuffling, adding and removing monsters from the deck and board when he could have killed you there and then? If not, then good you're in the upper 25% of Yugioh players who don't Netdeck and have an actual idea what their cards do without a computer doing it for them.

	For anyone playing a game simply to have fun and enjoy a good story, a powergamer is your number one enemy. Avoid at all costs. They'll fuck your shit up six ways to Sunday and five ways to Monday simply because they can. The only cure for powergamers is exile; avoid, ignore and generally make it plain they are not welcome to your game/store/house/existence.		For anyone playing a game simply to have fun and enjoy a good story, a powergamer is your number one enemy. Avoid at all costs. They'll fuck your shit up six ways to Sunday and five ways to Monday simply because they can. The only cure for powergamers is exile; avoid, ignore and generally make it plain they are not welcome to your game/store/house/existence.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* In Card Games */

2022-04-15T12:57:36Z

In Card Games

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	=== In Card Games ===		=== In Card Games ===
	Do what you would do with wargamers, don't play with that person who is playing that [[Rage\|top dier netdeck who solely wants to beat you]], just leave him alone and refuse to play, maybe go off and play [[Commander]]. HA HA HA HA HA. Let me introduce you to my Hanna, Ship's Navigator stax/prison deck, where you sit under a Stasis lock for 40 turns while I slowly topdeck into a wincon. Fuck your fun, I'm going to drink your tears from a ''mug''.		Do what you would do with wargamers, don't play with that person who is playing that [[Rage\|top dier netdeck who solely wants to beat you]], just leave him alone and refuse to play, maybe go off and play [[Commander]]. HA HA HA HA HA. Let me introduce you to my Hanna, Ship's Navigator stax/prison deck, where you sit under a Stasis lock for 40 turns while I slowly topdeck into a wincon. Fuck your fun, I'm going to drink your tears from a ''mug''.

			Using MTG as the guide... power gamers tend to concentrate in the older formats where power levels and old combos mean pretty much every competitive deck has to be built around some sort of combo superweapon and the question is who can build theirs first. Whilst there are powergamers in Standard, the restricted nature of the format limits how dangerous they can be.

			Draft formats destroy powergamers entirely due to the random chance element of draft deck building.

	== Examples of Powergamers/Munchkins ==		== Examples of Powergamers/Munchkins ==

1d4chan>Ow, My Sanity.: /* A Less Eloquent Summary */

2022-04-15T12:42:41Z

A Less Eloquent Summary

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	Ever played against an IG armoured list? No? Pray you never do, because that list displays a level of asshattery (and disposable income) on a godlike level. Seriously, fucking TANKS as TROOP CHOICES?! ''OH FUCK THE FUCK OFF!'' (Necrons don't care though so... Allies much?)		Ever played against an IG armoured list? No? Pray you never do, because that list displays a level of asshattery (and disposable income) on a godlike level. Seriously, fucking TANKS as TROOP CHOICES?! ''OH FUCK THE FUCK OFF!'' (Necrons don't care though so... Allies much?)

	Did you know that it's theoretically possible for a player in the original [[World of Darkness]] to have the powers of [[Vampire: The Masquerade\|a vampire]], [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse\|a werewolf]], ''and'' [[Mage: The Ascension\|a mage]] '''at the same fucking time'''? Why even bring a fucking party?!		Did you know that it's theoretically possible for a player in the original [[World of Darkness]] to have the powers of [[Vampire: The Masquerade\|a vampire]], [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse\|a werewolf]], ''and'' [[Mage: The Ascension\|a mage]] '''[https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Samuel_Haight at the same fucking time]'''? Why even bring a fucking party?!

	For anyone playing a game simply to have fun and enjoy a good story, a powergamer is your number one enemy. Avoid at all costs. They'll fuck your shit up six ways to Sunday and five ways to Monday simply because they can. The only cure for powergamers is exile; avoid, ignore and generally make it plain they are not welcome to your game/store/house/existence.		For anyone playing a game simply to have fun and enjoy a good story, a powergamer is your number one enemy. Avoid at all costs. They'll fuck your shit up six ways to Sunday and five ways to Monday simply because they can. The only cure for powergamers is exile; avoid, ignore and generally make it plain they are not welcome to your game/store/house/existence.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* In Wargaming */

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In Wargaming

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	Bring a knife or firearm to the table, should work well enough.		Bring a knife or firearm to the table, should work well enough.

	Just '''don't play''' with them and make certain that other people are aware of the sort of opponent they are too, so your friends can make the same decision. If you get no enjoyment out of the game there is no point in playing, wargaming is not a job or sport that requires your absolute commitment. Your opponent will find that they have no-one to play with either. Whoop-di-do if they've got an unbeatable spam list if no-one will give them the smug satisfaction of beating people stupid enough to play against them. This goes double for true munchkin players who exploit bad RAW to get advantages they shouldn't have.		Just '''don't play''' with them and make certain that other people are aware of the sort of opponent they are too, so your friends can make the same decision. If you get no enjoyment out of the game there is no point in playing, wargaming is not a job or sport that requires your absolute commitment. Your opponent will find that they have no-one to play with either. Whoop-di-do if they've got an unbeatable spam list ''(which is rare, given the rock-paper-scissors nature of most wargaming systems; every list has SOME weakness even if yours doesn't have an answer for it)'' if no-one will give them the smug satisfaction of beating people stupid enough to play against them. This goes double for true munchkin players who exploit bad RAW to get advantages they shouldn't have.

	Failing that, if there is no-one else to play with in your area, or if you are at a tournament that kind of ''requires'' your participation, if you can't beat them... join them. Unfortunately this means stooping to your opponent's level. If you need help with becoming your own worst nightmare, there are plenty of tactica and [[netlist]]s out there which can help you to build your army. Just don't let it go to your head. Alternatively; just leave. Eventually there will be so few showing up to tourneys that either the offending players will stop coming (and therefore allowing tournaments to re-engage) or they'll be stuck in a room of their fellow cheeselords (named for the odor as much for the strategy) which is a private hell on its own.		Failing that, if there is no-one else to play with in your area, or if you are at a tournament that kind of ''requires'' your participation, if you can't beat them... join them. Unfortunately this means stooping to your opponent's level. If you need help with becoming your own worst nightmare, there are plenty of tactica and [[netlist]]s out there which can help you to build your army. Just don't let it go to your head. Alternatively; just leave. Eventually there will be so few showing up to tourneys that either the offending players will stop coming (and therefore allowing tournaments to re-engage) or they'll be stuck in a room of their fellow cheeselords (named for the odor as much for the strategy) which is a private hell on its own.