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	* Arbitrary form and size. Pun-Pun is whatever he wants to. E.G. arbitrary number/shape/form/type of any appendages and body parts - including legs (Quadrupeds carry more), hands/manipulators (wield arbitrary number of magic items and other gear), eyes (see in all directions, can't get backstabbed or flanked), amorphous shapeless slime-like body with no discernible anatomy (fit into any opening, immunity to critical hits), mundane means to Fly (e.g. wings), altered physiology and bio-chemistry (inorganic physiology - no need to breathe, eat or sleep, immunity to poisons, etc), etc.		* Arbitrary form and size. Pun-Pun is whatever he wants to. E.G. arbitrary number/shape/form/type of any appendages and body parts - including legs (Quadrupeds carry more), hands/manipulators (wield arbitrary number of magic items and other gear), eyes (see in all directions, can't get backstabbed or flanked), amorphous shapeless slime-like body with no discernible anatomy (fit into any opening, immunity to critical hits), mundane means to Fly (e.g. wings), altered physiology and bio-chemistry (inorganic physiology - no need to breathe, eat or sleep, immunity to poisons, etc), etc.

	The list goes on and on. Further, any ability with the Ex, Su, or Sp descriptor found in a base class or prestige class is fair game with Manipulate Form.		[https://web.archive.org/web/20160611100437/http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=2705.0 The list goes on and on]. Further, any ability with the Ex, Su, or Sp descriptor found in a base class or prestige class is fair game with Manipulate Form.

	If you can think of any combination of abilities possible within the rules, Pun-Pun can do it.		If you can think of any combination of abilities possible within the rules, Pun-Pun can do it.

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	* Immunity to Polymorph, Petrification, or any other form-altering attack, Energy Drain, Ability Damage/Drain, Mind-Affecting Effects, All Energy Damage, Disease, Poison, Stunning, Sleep, Paralysis, Death Effects, Disintegration, Imprisoning/Banishing effects, Divine Damage, Aging Effects.		* Immunity to Polymorph, Petrification, or any other form-altering attack, Energy Drain, Ability Damage/Drain, Mind-Affecting Effects, All Energy Damage, Disease, Poison, Stunning, Sleep, Paralysis, Death Effects, Disintegration, Imprisoning/Banishing effects, Divine Damage, Aging Effects.
	* Immunity to all arcane spells of 6th level and lower and any spell that allows for Spell Resistance.		* Immunity to all arcane spells of 6th level and lower and any spell that allows for Spell Resistance.
	* Arbitrary form and size. Pun-Pun is whatever he wants to. E.G. arbitrary number/shape/form/type of any appendages and body parts - including legs (Quadrupeds carry more), hands/manipulators (wield arbitrary number of magic items and other gear), eyes (see in all directions, can't get backstabbed or flanked), amorphous shapeless slime-like body with no discernible anatomy (fit into any opening, immunity to critical hits), mundane means to Fly (e.g. wings), etc.		* Arbitrary form and size. Pun-Pun is whatever he wants to. E.G. arbitrary number/shape/form/type of any appendages and body parts - including legs (Quadrupeds carry more), hands/manipulators (wield arbitrary number of magic items and other gear), eyes (see in all directions, can't get backstabbed or flanked), amorphous shapeless slime-like body with no discernible anatomy (fit into any opening, immunity to critical hits), mundane means to Fly (e.g. wings), altered physiology and bio-chemistry (inorganic physiology - no need to breathe, eat or sleep, immunity to poisons, etc), etc.

	The list goes on and on. Further, any ability with the Ex, Su, or Sp descriptor found in a base class or prestige class is fair game with Manipulate Form.		The list goes on and on. Further, any ability with the Ex, Su, or Sp descriptor found in a base class or prestige class is fair game with Manipulate Form.

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	Claims that interpreting Manipulate Form to work off of the natural stats close the exploit are ambiguous, since by the example list, Manipulate form can increase size category, which does change natural strength. Although it's a "size bonus" when changed by a spell, if it's permanent, it's a true change. The new loop is. Familiar increases Pun-Pun's size. Pun pun raises familiars strength to his own new natural strength. Familiar decreases pun-pun's size. Familiar raises Pun-Pun's strength. Repeat to gain infinite strength. This also works for Con. The other stats are trickier.		Claims that interpreting Manipulate Form to work off of the natural stats close the exploit are ambiguous, since by the example list, Manipulate form can increase size category, which does change natural strength. Although it's a "size bonus" when changed by a spell, if it's permanent, it's a true change. The new loop is. Familiar increases Pun-Pun's size. Pun pun raises familiars strength to his own new natural strength. Familiar decreases pun-pun's size. Familiar raises Pun-Pun's strength. Repeat to gain infinite strength. This also works for Con. The other stats are trickier.

	But even if you only manage to implement ''some'' parts of Pun-Pun, what are rules-legally possible (even so much as 1/5th of all Pun-Pun's brokenness) - it would still be ''the'' strongest character build by far.		But even if you only manage to implement ''some'' parts of Pun-Pun, what are rules-legally possible (even so much as 1/5th of all Pun-Pun's brokenness; e.g. all Special Abilities) - it would still be ''the'' strongest character build by far.

	Then again, if you try to build Pun-Pun in an actual game, your DM is permitted to actually pee in your Mountain Dew. Look it up, it's in the book.		Then again, if you try to build Pun-Pun in an actual game, your DM is permitted to actually pee in your Mountain Dew. Look it up, it's in the book.

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	* All spells and powers as spell-like and psi-like abilities respectively, at-will (with permanence and metamagic if needed). These are at an arbitrarily high caster/manifester level. This is because the caster/manifester level defaults to HD with spell-like and psi-like abilities, which Pun-Pun has a limitless amount of.		* All spells and powers as spell-like and psi-like abilities respectively, at-will (with permanence and metamagic if needed). These are at an arbitrarily high caster/manifester level. This is because the caster/manifester level defaults to HD with spell-like and psi-like abilities, which Pun-Pun has a limitless amount of.
	* Corollary: creation of any object, magic item, or piece of gear at-will for free; buffed with every beneficial spell with permanency for free.		* Corollary: creation of any object, magic item, or piece of gear at-will for free; buffed with every beneficial spell upcasted and metamagically upgraded to arbitrary degree, with permanency, for free.
	* Multiple actions in each round. This is due to the Quickness ability of the Choker (Monster Manual), as well as the Dual Actions ability of the Chronotyryn (Fiend Folio) and the Schism psi-like ability (Expanded Psionics Handbook).		* Multiple actions in each round. This is due to the Quickness ability of the Choker (Monster Manual), as well as the Dual Actions ability of the Chronotyryn (Fiend Folio) and the Schism psi-like ability (Expanded Psionics Handbook).
	* All beneficial feats. This is gained from the Chameleon prestige class (Races of Destiny). It has an extraordinary ability to gain a feat, and those feats can qualify for other feats.		* All beneficial feats. This is gained from the Chameleon prestige class (Races of Destiny). It has an extraordinary ability to gain a feat, and those feats can qualify for other feats.

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	According to the Monster Manual, all Special Attacks and Qualities are either Extraordinary, Spell-like, or Supernatural abilities. Manipulate Form can grant any of these. As such, Pun-Pun is assumed to have any ability that is beneficial to him or makes him more threatening as an opponent. Here is a list of abilities that he has (the list is nowhere near exhaustive):		According to the Monster Manual, all Special Attacks and Qualities are either Extraordinary, Spell-like, or Supernatural abilities. Manipulate Form can grant any of these. As such, Pun-Pun is assumed to have any ability that is beneficial to him or makes him more threatening as an opponent. Here is a list of abilities that he has (the list is nowhere near exhaustive):

	* All spells and powers as spell-like and psi-like abilities respectively, at-will. These are at an arbitrarily high caster/manifester level. This is because the caster/manifester level defaults to HD with spell-like and psi-like abilities, which Pun-Pun has a limitless amount of.		* All spells and powers as spell-like and psi-like abilities respectively, at-will (with permanence and metamagic if needed). These are at an arbitrarily high caster/manifester level. This is because the caster/manifester level defaults to HD with spell-like and psi-like abilities, which Pun-Pun has a limitless amount of.
			* Corollary: creation of any object, magic item, or piece of gear at-will for free; buffed with every beneficial spell with permanency for free.
	* Multiple actions in each round. This is due to the Quickness ability of the Choker (Monster Manual), as well as the Dual Actions ability of the Chronotyryn (Fiend Folio) and the Schism psi-like ability (Expanded Psionics Handbook).		* Multiple actions in each round. This is due to the Quickness ability of the Choker (Monster Manual), as well as the Dual Actions ability of the Chronotyryn (Fiend Folio) and the Schism psi-like ability (Expanded Psionics Handbook).
	* All beneficial feats. This is gained from the Chameleon prestige class (Races of Destiny). It has an extraordinary ability to gain a feat, and those feats can qualify for other feats.		* All beneficial feats. This is gained from the Chameleon prestige class (Races of Destiny). It has an extraordinary ability to gain a feat, and those feats can qualify for other feats.
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	* Immunity to Polymorph, Petrification, or any other form-altering attack, Energy Drain, Ability Damage/Drain, Mind-Affecting Effects, All Energy Damage, Disease, Poison, Stunning, Sleep, Paralysis, Death Effects, Disintegration, Imprisoning/Banishing effects, Divine Damage, Aging Effects.		* Immunity to Polymorph, Petrification, or any other form-altering attack, Energy Drain, Ability Damage/Drain, Mind-Affecting Effects, All Energy Damage, Disease, Poison, Stunning, Sleep, Paralysis, Death Effects, Disintegration, Imprisoning/Banishing effects, Divine Damage, Aging Effects.
	* Immunity to all arcane spells of 6th level and lower and any spell that allows for Spell Resistance.		* Immunity to all arcane spells of 6th level and lower and any spell that allows for Spell Resistance.
			* Arbitrary form and size. Pun-Pun is whatever he wants to. E.G. arbitrary number/shape/form/type of any appendages and body parts - including legs (Quadrupeds carry more), hands/manipulators (wield arbitrary number of magic items and other gear), eyes (see in all directions, can't get backstabbed or flanked), amorphous shapeless slime-like body with no discernible anatomy (fit into any opening, immunity to critical hits), mundane means to Fly (e.g. wings), etc.

	The list goes on and on. Further, any ability with the Ex, Su, or Sp descriptor found in a base class or prestige class is fair game with Manipulate Form.		The list goes on and on. Further, any ability with the Ex, Su, or Sp descriptor found in a base class or prestige class is fair game with Manipulate Form.

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	Pun-Pun can ascend at level one. Wizard 1. Feats: Endurance, Alertness (through viper familiar.)		Pun-Pun can ascend at level one. Wizard 1. Feats: Endurance, Alertness (through viper familiar.)
	Here's how: Dragon Wrought kobold with ~~near infinite~~ age (they don't take penalties or die of old age) +6 to Wisdom and INT 18 base intelligence four ranks in Knowledge (The Planes) and a corresponding masterwork item will get you more than the necessary skill check (25) while taking ten to know that you can summon Pazuzu like Beetlejuice (saying his name three times).		Here's how: Dragon Wrought kobold with an age of at least 120 years (they don't take penalties or die of old age) +6 to Wisdom and INT 18 base intelligence four ranks in Knowledge (The Planes) and a corresponding masterwork item will get you more than the necessary skill check (25) while taking ten to know that you can summon Pazuzu like Beetlejuice (saying his name three times).

	Summon [[Pazuzu]], make a deal that ends up with you Lawful Neutral with a LE Candle of Invocation. Summon an Efreeti with the candle. Use the 3 wishes. Wish 1: plane shift to the astral plane. Wish 2: Another candle of invocation and wish 3: another candle. Use one to summon a [[Sarrukh]] and have it manipulate your form to have manipulate form. Ascend. (Khan explains better in his thread.)		Summon [[Pazuzu]], make a deal that ends up with you Lawful Neutral with a LE Candle of Invocation. Summon an Efreeti with the candle. Use the 3 wishes. Wish 1: plane shift to the astral plane. Wish 2: Another candle of invocation and wish 3: another candle. Use one to summon a [[Sarrukh]] and have it manipulate your form to have manipulate form. Ascend. (Khan explains better in his thread.)
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	* [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Pun-Pun_%283.5e_Optimized_Character_Build%29 Pun-Pun (3.5e Optimized Character Build)] rated <strike>6</strike> 9001 out of 5 for optimizing efficiency.		* [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Pun-Pun_%283.5e_Optimized_Character_Build%29 Pun-Pun (3.5e Optimized Character Build)] rated <strike>6</strike> 9001 out of 5 for optimizing efficiency.
	* [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/3.5e_Optimized_Character_Builds More munchkin building] from the same wiki.		* [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/3.5e_Optimized_Character_Builds More munchkin building] from the same wiki.
			* [https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/49mxkp/respect_punpun_dungeons_dragons_35_edition/ Pun-Pun's Reddit Respect Thread].

	== No Fun Allowed ==		== No Fun Allowed ==
	Divine Minion is a template for NPCs. They were never intended to be used by players, and as such, a DM will spot you miles away attempting this, not to mention that this is the "[https://web.archive.org/web/20210716094006/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a Mulhorandi Divine Minion]" that carries the Fast Wildshape power. Good luck explaining where that came from to the DM and getting them to allow it. Even if they do, you can bet the in-game gods will need to be convinced by Pun-Pun why they should let him become a Demi-God of Loopholes. Assuming they can read and pay attention to Pun Pun's mind, you will want to invest heavily in wards that stop anything not from the Material Plane from smiting you more ways than dead.		Divine Minion is a template for NPCs. They were never intended to be used by players, and as such, a DM will spot you miles away attempting this, not to mention that this is the "[https://web.archive.org/web/20210716094006/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a Mulhorandi Divine Minion]" that carries the Fast Wildshape power. Good luck explaining where that came from to the DM and getting them to allow it. Even if they do, you can bet the in-game gods will need to be convinced by Pun-Pun why they should let him become a Demi-God of Loopholes. Assuming they can read and pay attention to Pun Pun's mind, you will want to invest heavily in wards that stop anything not from the Material Plane from smiting you more ways than dead.

			Even not taking in-game Gods and Demi-Gods into consideration, there are still many in-game entities what would try to prevent Pun-Pun from becoming Demi-God of Loopholes, recognizing him as Priority Target and №1 Most Wanted of The Accessible Multiverse. E.G. [[Inevitable#Varakhut\|Varakhuts]], whose job is to prevent people from becoming gods, would raise red alert. Then there's evil things, and things from alignment opposite to yours. Pre-ascension Pun-Pun can't survive fight with any of such assailants (e.g. 66-HD, Huge Varakhut) - and he isn't tough enough to ascend before getting neutralized by assailant. Hiding from assailants and Gods is ''very'' difficult, though theoretically possible.

	Sarrukh are Forgotten Realms exclusive creatures, a custom setting might have them, but good luck summoning something from another setting that your character doesn't know of. Additionally, the ability specifically states that it only works on scaled ones native to Toril, which any sane DM will interpret as "you must have been born in Forgotten Realms", since native is with respect to being born on a plane according to RAW. So if you aren't in the Forgotten Realms setting already, Manipulate Form can't affect you by RAW, and if you are there, Mystra (goddess of magic, who can remove anyone's ability to use magic) will protect the Realm by cutting you off from the Weave before you can gate in the Sarrukh, denying your game breaking tricks. Mystra is generally hands off, except when the realm is endangered, such as by godly munchkinry. Shar might be more willing to cooperate, being an alternate source of magic in the setting, but she has the same ability for the Shadow Weave that Mystra has for the normal one (to cut off someone from it completely if needed). If a DM is silly enough to rule that Sarrukh exist in your setting AND they affect scaled ones native to it AND there is no God that will interfere, well have fun.		Sarrukh are Forgotten Realms exclusive creatures, a custom setting might have them, but good luck summoning something from another setting that your character doesn't know of. Additionally, the ability specifically states that it only works on scaled ones native to Toril, which any sane DM will interpret as "you must have been born in Forgotten Realms", since native is with respect to being born on a plane according to RAW. So if you aren't in the Forgotten Realms setting already, Manipulate Form can't affect you by RAW, and if you are there, Mystra (goddess of magic, who can remove anyone's ability to use magic) will protect the Realm by cutting you off from the Weave before you can gate in the Sarrukh, denying your game breaking tricks. Mystra is generally hands off, except when the realm is endangered, such as by godly munchkinry. Shar might be more willing to cooperate, being an alternate source of magic in the setting, but she has the same ability for the Shadow Weave that Mystra has for the normal one (to cut off someone from it completely if needed). If a DM is silly enough to rule that Sarrukh exist in your setting AND they affect scaled ones native to it AND there is no God that will interfere, well have fun.
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	Claims that interpreting Manipulate Form to work off of the natural stats close the exploit are ambiguous, since by the example list, Manipulate form can increase size category, which does change natural strength. Although it's a "size bonus" when changed by a spell, if it's permanent, it's a true change. The new loop is. Familiar increases Pun-Pun's size. Pun pun raises familiars strength to his own new natural strength. Familiar decreases pun-pun's size. Familiar raises Pun-Pun's strength. Repeat to gain infinite strength. This also works for Con. The other stats are trickier.		Claims that interpreting Manipulate Form to work off of the natural stats close the exploit are ambiguous, since by the example list, Manipulate form can increase size category, which does change natural strength. Although it's a "size bonus" when changed by a spell, if it's permanent, it's a true change. The new loop is. Familiar increases Pun-Pun's size. Pun pun raises familiars strength to his own new natural strength. Familiar decreases pun-pun's size. Familiar raises Pun-Pun's strength. Repeat to gain infinite strength. This also works for Con. The other stats are trickier.

			But even if you only manage to implement ''some'' parts of Pun-Pun, what are rules-legally possible (even so much as 1/5th of all Pun-Pun's brokenness) - it would still be ''the'' strongest character build by far.

	Then again, if you try to build Pun-Pun in an actual game, your DM is permitted to actually pee in your Mountain Dew. Look it up, it's in the book.		Then again, if you try to build Pun-Pun in an actual game, your DM is permitted to actually pee in your Mountain Dew. Look it up, it's in the book.

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	== No Fun Allowed ==		== No Fun Allowed ==
	Divine Minion is a template for NPCs. They were never intended to be used by players, and as such, a DM will spot you miles away attempting this, not to mention that this is the "[https://web.archive.org/web/20210716094006/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a "		Divine Minion is a template for NPCs. They were never intended to be used by players, and as such, a DM will spot you miles away attempting this, not to mention that this is the "[https://web.archive.org/web/20210716094006/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a Mulhorandi Divine Minion]" that carries the Fast Wildshape power. Good luck explaining where that came from to the DM and getting them to allow it. Even if they do, you can bet the in-game gods will need to be convinced by Pun-Pun why they should let him become a Demi-God of Loopholes. Assuming they can read and pay attention to Pun Pun's mind, you will want to invest heavily in wards that stop anything not from the Material Plane from smiting you more ways than dead.
	Mulhorandi Divine Minion]" that carries the Fast Wildshape power. Good luck explaining where that came from to the DM and getting them to allow it. Even if they do, you can bet the in-game gods will need to be convinced by Pun-Pun why they should let him become a Demi-God of Loopholes. Assuming they can read and pay attention to Pun Pun's mind, you will want to invest heavily in wards that stop anything not from the Material Plane from smiting you more ways than dead.

	Sarrukh are Forgotten Realms exclusive creatures, a custom setting might have them, but good luck summoning something from another setting that your character doesn't know of. Additionally, the ability specifically states that it only works on scaled ones native to Toril, which any sane DM will interpret as "you must have been born in Forgotten Realms", since native is with respect to being born on a plane according to RAW. So if you aren't in the Forgotten Realms setting already, Manipulate Form can't affect you by RAW, and if you are there, Mystra (goddess of magic, who can remove anyone's ability to use magic) will protect the Realm by cutting you off from the Weave before you can gate in the Sarrukh, denying your game breaking tricks. Mystra is generally hands off, except when the realm is endangered, such as by godly munchkinry. Shar might be more willing to cooperate, being an alternate source of magic in the setting, but she has the same ability for the Shadow Weave that Mystra has for the normal one (to cut off someone from it completely if needed). If a DM is silly enough to rule that Sarrukh exist in your setting AND they affect scaled ones native to it AND there is no God that will interfere, well have fun.		Sarrukh are Forgotten Realms exclusive creatures, a custom setting might have them, but good luck summoning something from another setting that your character doesn't know of. Additionally, the ability specifically states that it only works on scaled ones native to Toril, which any sane DM will interpret as "you must have been born in Forgotten Realms", since native is with respect to being born on a plane according to RAW. So if you aren't in the Forgotten Realms setting already, Manipulate Form can't affect you by RAW, and if you are there, Mystra (goddess of magic, who can remove anyone's ability to use magic) will protect the Realm by cutting you off from the Weave before you can gate in the Sarrukh, denying your game breaking tricks. Mystra is generally hands off, except when the realm is endangered, such as by godly munchkinry. Shar might be more willing to cooperate, being an alternate source of magic in the setting, but she has the same ability for the Shadow Weave that Mystra has for the normal one (to cut off someone from it completely if needed). If a DM is silly enough to rule that Sarrukh exist in your setting AND they affect scaled ones native to it AND there is no God that will interfere, well have fun.

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	{{Powergamer}}		{{Powergamer}}
	'''Pun-Pun''' is the god of [[munchkin~~\|munchkinry~~]]. The ultimate example of "breaking the system" in [[Dungeons & Dragons\|3.5]], Pun-Pun was an ECL 6, now an ECL 1, [[kobold]] character build that can cast every spell and psionic power at will, has infinite stats (and therefore infinite HP), and has a divine rank of 30. While the original version of Pun-Pun was a 12th level psion, the most recent shattering of the system uses only standard divine/arcane magic and setting-specific splatbook feats.		'''Pun-Pun''' is the god of [[munchkin]]ry. The ultimate example of "breaking the system" in [[Dungeons & Dragons\|3.5]], Pun-Pun was an ECL 6, now an ECL 1, [[kobold]] character build that can cast every spell and psionic power at will, has infinite stats (and therefore infinite HP), and has a divine rank of 30. While the original version of Pun-Pun was a 12th level psion, the most recent shattering of the system uses only standard divine/arcane magic and setting-specific splatbook feats.

	== How It's Done ==		== How It's Done ==
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	== No Fun Allowed ==		== No Fun Allowed ==
			Divine Minion is a template for NPCs. They were never intended to be used by players, and as such, a DM will spot you miles away attempting this, not to mention that this is the "[https://web.archive.org/web/20210716094006/http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a "
	Divine Minion is a template for NPCs. They were never intended to be used by players and as such a DM will spot you miles away attempting this not ~~mentioning~~ that this is the [http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mb/20050209a "Mulhorandi Divine Minion"] that carries the Fast Wildshape power. Good luck explaining where that came from to the DM and ~~get~~ them to allow it. Even if they do, you can bet the in-game gods will need to be convinced by Pun-Pun why they should let him become a Demi-God of Loopholes. Assuming they can read and pay attention to Pun Pun's mind, you will want to heavily ~~invest~~ in wards that stop anything not from the Material Plane from smiting you more ways than dead.		Mulhorandi Divine Minion]" that carries the Fast Wildshape power. Good luck explaining where that came from to the DM and getting them to allow it. Even if they do, you can bet the in-game gods will need to be convinced by Pun-Pun why they should let him become a Demi-God of Loopholes. Assuming they can read and pay attention to Pun Pun's mind, you will want to invest heavily in wards that stop anything not from the Material Plane from smiting you more ways than dead.

	Sarrukh are Forgotten Realms exclusive creatures, a custom setting might have them, but good luck summoning something from another setting that your character doesn't know of. Additionally, the ability specifically states that it only works on scaled ones native to Toril, which any sane DM will interpret as "you must have been born in Forgotten Realms", since native is with respect to being born on a plane according to RAW. So if you aren't in the Forgotten Realms setting already, Manipulate Form can't affect you by RAW, and if you are there, Mystra (goddess of magic, who can remove anyone's ability to use magic) will protect the Realm by cutting you off from the Weave before you can gate in the Sarrukh, denying your game breaking tricks. Mystra is generally hands off, except when the realm is endangered, such as by godly munchkinry. Shar might be more willing to cooperate, being an alternate source of magic in the setting, but she has the same ability for the Shadow Weave that Mystra has for the normal one (to cut off someone from it completely if needed). If a DM is silly enough to rule that Sarrukh exist in your setting AND they affect scaled ones native to it AND there is no God that will interfere, well have fun.		Sarrukh are Forgotten Realms exclusive creatures, a custom setting might have them, but good luck summoning something from another setting that your character doesn't know of. Additionally, the ability specifically states that it only works on scaled ones native to Toril, which any sane DM will interpret as "you must have been born in Forgotten Realms", since native is with respect to being born on a plane according to RAW. So if you aren't in the Forgotten Realms setting already, Manipulate Form can't affect you by RAW, and if you are there, Mystra (goddess of magic, who can remove anyone's ability to use magic) will protect the Realm by cutting you off from the Weave before you can gate in the Sarrukh, denying your game breaking tricks. Mystra is generally hands off, except when the realm is endangered, such as by godly munchkinry. Shar might be more willing to cooperate, being an alternate source of magic in the setting, but she has the same ability for the Shadow Weave that Mystra has for the normal one (to cut off someone from it completely if needed). If a DM is silly enough to rule that Sarrukh exist in your setting AND they affect scaled ones native to it AND there is no God that will interfere, well have fun.