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	==9th Edition. Thou has atoned for ones sins. Risen from the ashes, purified, devout and holy. What fate shall befall the rest of us, when the prophesized one ascends. ==		==9th Edition. Thou has atoned for ones sins. Risen from the ashes, purified, devout and holy. What fate shall befall the rest of us, when the prophesized one ascends.==

	It finally happened, a day that many never thought would happen. Pyrovores in 9th edition aren't only considered good, they actually received a nerf.		It finally happened, a day that many never thought would happen. Pyrovores in 9th edition aren't only considered good, they actually received a nerf.

	Toughness 5, 5 Wounds, 3+ Save, A decent ranged flamer weapon with 2 strong damage profiles for both MEQ and hoards, access to two decent stratagems that allow you do deal a surprising amount of mortal wounds, all for only 30 points each.		Toughness 5, 5 Wounds, 3+ Save, A decent ranged flamer weapon with 2 strong damage profiles for both MEQ and hoards, access to two decent stratagems that allow you do deal a surprising amount of mortal wounds, all for only 30 points each.

	As a result, Pyrovores are considered one of the strongest objective holders in the game. Having enough toughness and a small enough profile to shrug off most ranged attacks, and Overwatch with flamers + Corrosive Viscera stratagems basically guaranteeing to fuck up any unit that dares charge a unit of 3 of them.		As a result, Pyrovores are considered one of the strongest objective holders in the game. Having enough toughness and a small enough profile to shrug off most ranged attacks, and Overwatch with flamers + Corrosive Viscera stratagems basically guaranteeing to fuck up any unit that dares charge a unit of 3 of them.

	Fair to say, a single unit of Pyrovores contains a disgusting amount of value for only 90 points, and is considered a good investment in almost any list.		Fair to say, a single unit of Pyrovores contains a disgusting amount of value for only 90 points, and is considered a good investment in almost any list.

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2A02:1810:4E2C:A900:9092:EB43:6B32:3957 at 20:49, 5 June 2023

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	Pyrovores are [[EPIC FAIL\|'''worse''']] than [[Tau\|Fire Warriors]] in melee, who are unceremoniously chopped up in seconds... but at least that's funny, things have gone ''wrong'' when squads assault Firewarriors, they can do that [[Warhammer 40,000 6th edition\|"Overwatch + Markerlights + other squads nearby can Overwatch for them + Markerlights"]], and can kill Land Raiders in melee with EMP Grenades.		Pyrovores are [[EPIC FAIL\|'''worse''']] than [[Tau\|Fire Warriors]] in melee, who are unceremoniously chopped up in seconds... but at least that's funny, things have gone ''wrong'' when squads assault Firewarriors, they can do that [[Warhammer 40,000 6th edition\|"Overwatch + Markerlights + other squads nearby can Overwatch for them + Markerlights"]], and can kill Land Raiders in melee with EMP Grenades.

	Pyrovores are so bad that fluff writers try to forget that they even exist. In fact they appear only in one BL book ([[Ciaphas Cain\|The Last Ditch]]) and they are as terrible there as on tabletop. Cain actually obliterates majority of incoming tyranid horde by shooting a few pyrovores, [[Fail\|the resulting explosion wiping out most of the tyranid attack, including the Hive Tyrant and its guards]]. They're even being mocked by in-universe characters as terrible; which we choose to take as further proof of Sandy Mitchell's awesomeness by taking the now memetic godawfulness of the Pyrovore and making it ''canon.''		Pyrovores are so bad that fluff writers try to forget that they even exist. In fact they appear only in one BL book ([[Ciaphas Cain\|The Last Ditch]]) and they are as terrible there as on tabletop. Cain actually obliterates majority of incoming tyranid horde by shooting a few pyrovores, [[Fail\|the resulting explosion wiping out most of the tyranid attack, including the Hive Tyrant and its guards]]. They're even being mocked by in-universe characters as terrible; which we choose to take as further proof of Sandy Mitchell's awesomeness by taking the now memetic godawfulness of the Pyrovore and making it ''canon.''

	Pyrovores are so terrible that why they are even a thing remains a point of debate because holy shit, who in their right mind would think that this... this... thing... was a good idea? It serves no conceivable purpose, and there are much better platforms for a flamethrower in the Tyranid bestiary than the body of a fuel refinery that would otherwise be an unstatted noncombatant. I mean fuck, there's even one in the same motherfucking Codex, all you'd need to do for the Tyrannofex is light its acid spray on fire and then BAM! You have a flamer on a non-shitty platform. Or Warriors or something, because they're basically crapsack Terminators and Terminators get a Heavy Flamer! Or just anything!		Pyrovores are so terrible that why they are even a thing remains a point of debate because holy shit, who in their right mind would think that this... this... thing... was a good idea? It serves no conceivable purpose, and there are much better platforms for a flamethrower in the Tyranid bestiary than the body of a fuel refinery that would otherwise be an unstatted noncombatant. I mean fuck, there's even one in the same motherfucking Codex, all you'd need to do for the Tyrannofex is light its acid spray on fire and then BAM! You have a flamer on a non-shitty platform. Or Warriors or something, because they're basically crapsack Terminators and Terminators get a Heavy Flamer! Or just anything!
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	The wording of its exploding ability is so poorly written that when the rules are applied exactly as written, whenever one suffers Instant Death, ALL UNITS ON THE BOARD suffer a number of hits equal to all non-Pyrovores within D6" of it. This means that the Pyrovore is so bad its abject shittyness transcended its rules and altered the minds of its writers to make it even worse. Exact text:		The wording of its exploding ability is so poorly written that when the rules are applied exactly as written, whenever one suffers Instant Death, ALL UNITS ON THE BOARD suffer a number of hits equal to all non-Pyrovores within D6" of it. This means that the Pyrovore is so bad its abject shittyness transcended its rules and altered the minds of its writers to make it even worse. Exact text:

	"Volatile: If a Pyrovore is slain by a Wound that inflicted Instant Death, every unit suffers a Strength 3 AP- hit for each model (excluding Pyrovores) within D6" of the slain Pyrovore (resolve damage before removing the Pyrovore as a casualty)."		"Volatile: If a Pyrovore is slain by a Wound that inflicted Instant Death, every unit suffers a Strength 3 AP- hit for each model (excluding Pyrovores) within D6" of the slain Pyrovore (resolve damage before removing the Pyrovore as a casualty)."

	Presumably what they wanted to write was that each model within D6" suffers a S3 AP- hit. Meaning that for a squad of 10 Guardsmen next to the Pyrovore, they suffer 10 hits. What they instead wrote means that ''every unit on the board'' suffers 10 hits. Theoretically hilarious if you had a way to detonate it intentionally and brought nothing but T6 - but you don't.		Presumably what they wanted to write was that each model within D6" suffers a S3 AP- hit. Meaning that for a squad of 10 Guardsmen next to the Pyrovore, they suffer 10 hits. What they instead wrote means that ''every unit on the board'' suffers 10 hits. Theoretically hilarious if you had a way to detonate it intentionally and brought nothing but T6 - but you don't.
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	==9th Edition. Thou has atoned for ones sins. Risen from the ashes, purified, devout and holy. What fate shall befall the rest of us, when the prophesized one ascends. ==		==9th Edition. Thou has atoned for ones sins. Risen from the ashes, purified, devout and holy. What fate shall befall the rest of us, when the prophesized one ascends. ==

	It finally happened, a day that many never thought would happen. Pyrovores in 9th edition aren't only considered good, they actually received a nerf.		It finally happened, a day that many never thought would happen. Pyrovores in 9th edition aren't only considered good, they actually received a nerf.

1d4chan>GloriousGidofter at 15:15, 27 October 2022

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	[[FAIL\|And then]] [[Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition\|the 6th edition book]] [[FAIL\|came out, and, somehow, Pyrovores got even ''worse.'']]		[[FAIL\|And then]] [[Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition\|the 6th edition book]] [[FAIL\|came out, and, somehow, Pyrovores got even ''worse.'']]

	But by some miraculous act of the Emperor, GW (Mostly) isn't shit anymore and has recognized the uselessness of the Pyrovore. The 8th edition changes finally made the Pyrovore into a ''surprisingly decent enough murder machine''.		But by some miraculous act of the Emperor, GW (Mostly) isn't shit anymore and has recognized the uselessness of the Pyrovore. The 8th edition changes finally made the Pyrovore into a ''surprisingly decent enough murder machine'', and 9th edition made them even better.

	==Fluff==		==Fluff==

50.204.33.171 at 15:05, 27 October 2022

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	==9th Edition. Thou has atoned for ones sins. Risen from the ashes, purified, devout and holy. What fate shall befall the rest of us, when the ~~profited~~ one ascends. ==		==9th Edition. Thou has atoned for ones sins. Risen from the ashes, purified, devout and holy. What fate shall befall the rest of us, when the prophesized one ascends. ==

	It finally happened, a day that many never thought would happen. Pyrovores in 9th edition aren't only considered good, ~~the~~ actually received a nerf.		It finally happened, a day that many never thought would happen. Pyrovores in 9th edition aren't only considered good, they actually received a nerf.

	Toughness 5, 5 Wounds, 3+ Save, A decent ranged flamer weapon with 2 strong damage profiles for both MEQ and hoards, access to two decent stratagems that allow you do deal a surprising amount of mortal wounds, all for only 30 points each.		Toughness 5, 5 Wounds, 3+ Save, A decent ranged flamer weapon with 2 strong damage profiles for both MEQ and hoards, access to two decent stratagems that allow you do deal a surprising amount of mortal wounds, all for only 30 points each.

2601:204:201:9A00:F87E:ABC6:F69E:9B1B at 16:34, 23 September 2022

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	[[FAIL\|And then]] [[Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition\|the 6th edition book]] [[FAIL\|came out, and, somehow, Pyrovores got even ''worse.'']]		[[FAIL\|And then]] [[Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition\|the 6th edition book]] [[FAIL\|came out, and, somehow, Pyrovores got even ''worse.'']]

	But by some miraculous act of the Emperor, GW isn't shit anymore and has recognized the uselessness of the Pyrovore. The 8th edition changes finally made the Pyrovore into a ''surprisingly decent enough murder machine''.		But by some miraculous act of the Emperor, GW (Mostly) isn't shit anymore and has recognized the uselessness of the Pyrovore. The 8th edition changes finally made the Pyrovore into a ''surprisingly decent enough murder machine''.

	==Fluff==		==Fluff==

2607:FB90:339B:1BD7:AC39:65F7:4E5F:763B: /* Why are they so bad? */

2022-09-07T18:50:51Z

Why are they so bad?

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	Also they make for great [http://www.wobblymodelsyndrome.com/comic-166.html new years eve fireworks.]		Also they make for great [http://www.wobblymodelsyndrome.com/comic-166.html new years eve fireworks.]

	==Why ~~are~~ they so bad?==		==Why were they so bad?==
	Alright, spleen's been vented enough, so let's get real for a moment.		Alright, spleen's been vented enough, so let's get real for a moment.

111.220.108.185: 9th Ed Pyrovore update.

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 As of Chapter Approved 2018, the cost has been reduced to ''less than 30 points per model''. Let's recap - heavy flamer on a mini-monster, a CC weapon with AP-3 that is quite effective against MEQs, LOTS of wounds, taking wounds causes its victim to get hit '''and''' can hit a squad with nastiness if it dies. It's over lads, [[JUST AS PLANNED|the meme is finally dead]]! Pyrovores aren't utter shit anymore.
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1d4chan>Skadooshbag: /* Why are they so bad? */

2021-11-20T07:04:44Z

Why are they so bad?

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	"Volatile: If a Pyrovore is slain by a Wound that inflicted Instant Death, every unit suffers a Strength 3 AP- hit for each model (excluding Pyrovores) within D6" of the slain Pyrovore (resolve damage before removing the Pyrovore as a casualty)."		"Volatile: If a Pyrovore is slain by a Wound that inflicted Instant Death, every unit suffers a Strength 3 AP- hit for each model (excluding Pyrovores) within D6" of the slain Pyrovore (resolve damage before removing the Pyrovore as a casualty)."

	~~What~~ they wanted to write was that each model within D6" suffers a S3 AP- hit. Meaning that for a squad of 10 Guardsmen next to the Pyrovore, they suffer 10 hits. What they instead wrote means that ''every unit on the board'' suffers 10 hits. Theoretically hilarious if you had a way to detonate it intentionally and brought nothing but T6 - but you don't.		Presumably what they wanted to write was that each model within D6" suffers a S3 AP- hit. Meaning that for a squad of 10 Guardsmen next to the Pyrovore, they suffer 10 hits. What they instead wrote means that ''every unit on the board'' suffers 10 hits. Theoretically hilarious if you had a way to detonate it intentionally and brought nothing but T6 - but you don't.

	So, all in all, the worst fucking unit in the game. Completely pointless, no idea where it wants to be, competes with '''good''' units (units that are basically compulsory if you want Tyranids to win). The other thing is that it had '''never''' been good: it was bad in the previous Codex (where it debuted) and it was bad in 6th, too. Countless ideas are thrown about to unfuck the unit, and you can almost see how it's suppose to work: Tyranids have trouble dealing with things in cover, and this thing is made to deal with things in cover -- so perhaps if they were beasts, had higher WS, BS, and Initiative and were allowed to fire the flamespurt in close combat like a [[lizardmen\|stegadon?]] But the cocksucking piece of shit is fundamentally contrary to the basis of the entire army. To make it fit, [[homebrew]]ers have pretty much had to make the pile of fail unrecognizable from its origins. It is ''that'' bad.		So, all in all, the worst fucking unit in the game. Completely pointless, no idea where it wants to be, competes with '''good''' units (units that are basically compulsory if you want Tyranids to win). The other thing is that it had '''never''' been good: it was bad in the previous Codex (where it debuted) and it was bad in 6th, too. Countless ideas are thrown about to unfuck the unit, and you can almost see how it's suppose to work: Tyranids have trouble dealing with things in cover, and this thing is made to deal with things in cover -- so perhaps if they were beasts, had higher WS, BS, and Initiative and were allowed to fire the flamespurt in close combat like a [[lizardmen\|stegadon?]] But the cocksucking piece of shit is fundamentally contrary to the basis of the entire army. To make it fit, [[homebrew]]ers have pretty much had to make the pile of fail unrecognizable from its origins. It is ''that'' bad.