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	The '''Raptors''' are [[Raven Guard]] successors that use actual camouflage, sneaking, and tactics, rather than [[Ultramarines\|running at the enemy painted in bright colours]]. They're almost always deployed as individual task forces or kill teams, with a task force of them maybe maxing out at four companies. They're also known for getting fucked over numerous times and declared extinct just as many, including the destruction of their original homeworld and losing all of their ancient wargear. Indeed, for while many chapters in similar situations become extinct, the Raptors always manage to resurface after some time. Because of this, this makes them one of the few [[Forge World]] Chapters that doesn't use the fancy [[Red Scorpions\|MKIV Armor]] or other [[Consecrators\|Heresy-era gear]]. This automatically makes them [[Awesome\|the cheapest FW Chapter to play.]]		The '''Raptors''' are [[Raven Guard]] successors that use actual camouflage, sneaking, and tactics, rather than [[Ultramarines\|running at the enemy painted in bright colours]]. They're almost always deployed as individual task forces or kill teams, with a task force of them maybe maxing out at four companies. They're also known for getting fucked over numerous times and declared extinct just as many, including the destruction of their original homeworld and losing all of their ancient wargear. Indeed, for while many chapters in similar situations become extinct, the Raptors always manage to resurface after some time. Because of this, this makes them one of the few [[Forge World]] Chapters that doesn't use the fancy [[Red Scorpions\|MKIV Armor]] or other [[Consecrators\|Heresy-era gear]]. This automatically makes them [[Awesome\|the cheapest FW Chapter to play.]]

	Basically, the Raptors fight like super ''soldiers'' instead of super warrior-monks.		Basically, the Raptors fight like super ''soldiers'' instead of super warrior-monks. Take a thousand modern MARSOC marines, give them Astartes augmentations and powered armor. You now have the Raptors.

	They made a brief appearance in [[Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior]] and the [[Imperial Armour]] Badab War books.		They made a brief appearance in [[Warhammer 40,000: Fire Warrior]] and the [[Imperial Armour]] Badab War books.

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	[[Image:250px-Raptor ambush.jpg\|frame\|left\|300px\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfNarCjSHM\| A rare recording of the Raptors Battle Cry.]]]		[[Image:250px-Raptor ambush.jpg\|frame\|left\|300px\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfNarCjSHM\| A rare recording of the Raptors Battle Cry.]]]

	Their origins are also a bit muddled, as the original Raptors were super Space Marines ten thousand years (and over a decade IRL) before the [[Primaris Space Marines]] even existed. [[Rage\|Yes, you are now hearing the sound of a bullet being rechambered by each and every RG and/or Raptors fanboy who owns at least one firearm after reading this.]] Corax wanted to get his boys back into the fight as quickly as possible after the events of the [[Drop Site Massacre]], so he sought a solution from [[Emperor of Mankind\|Daddy]], the one guy who'd know the most about making Space Marines quickly.		Their origins are also a bit muddled, as the [[Raptors (Raven Guard)\|original Raptors]] were super Space Marines ten thousand years (and over a decade IRL) before the [[Primaris Space Marines]] even existed. [[Rage\|Yes, you are now hearing the sound of a bullet being rechambered by each and every RG and/or Raptors fanboy who owns at least one firearm after reading this.]] Corax wanted to get his boys back into the fight as quickly as possible after the events of the [[Drop Site Massacre]], so he sought a solution from [[Emperor of Mankind\|Daddy]], the one guy who'd know the most about making Space Marines quickly.

	Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?		Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?

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	Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?		Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?

	Whether the current Raptors are descended from their more stable predecessors, a perfected version, or Corax just naming the chapter in honor of the original super Space Marines during the [[Second Founding]] is unknown. The last theory is more likely as the current Imperium can't make proper records as to where their own bodily excretions go, much less their cool toys.		Whether the current Raptors are descended from their more stable predecessors, a perfected version, or Corax just naming the chapter in honor of the original super Space Marines during the [[Second Founding]] is unknown. The last theory is more likely as the current Imperium can't make proper records as to where their own bodily excretions go, much less their cool toys.

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	The Raptors were given unique chapter Special Rules by [[Forgeworld]] in 6th and 7th edition, and dammit if that doesn't turn them into the sneaky snipers they are made out to be in fluff. All non-Vehicle models not in transports on the first turn get Shrouded just like the Raven Guard, but the real beef lies within their [[Bolter\|Bolters]]: [[Awesome\|All Bolters and Bolt Pistols have the alternative profile of Heavy 1, ''Rending'' for no additional cost.]] This makes every Tactical Marine and especially their Sternguard into something akin to Tau Fire Warrior teams on pretty aggressive steroids. Find them a good place with cover and a good view of the battlefield and enjoy your S 4 AP 5 Rending Anti-everything infantry weaponry.		The Raptors were given unique chapter Special Rules by [[Forgeworld]] in 6th and 7th edition, and dammit if that doesn't turn them into the sneaky snipers they are made out to be in fluff. All non-Vehicle models not in transports on the first turn get Shrouded just like the Raven Guard, but the real beef lies within their [[Bolter\|Bolters]]: [[Awesome\|All Bolters and Bolt Pistols have the alternative profile of Heavy 1, ''Rending'' for no additional cost.]] This makes every Tactical Marine and especially their Sternguard into something akin to Tau Fire Warrior teams on pretty aggressive steroids. Find them a good place with cover and a good view of the battlefield and enjoy your S 4 AP 5 Rending Anti-everything infantry weaponry.

	In 8th edition, the Raptors are now slumming it, have to utilize the Chapter Tactics of the [[Raven Guard]], which oddly enough seems to fit the Raptors better than their more emo big brothers. Your opponent must subtract 1 from any hit rolls when shooting at units with this tactic if they are more than 12" away...you'd think the Raven Guard would get that benefit at LESS than 12in away, considering they're all about assault...but all the better for us Raptors players who are used to using our rending gunlines in 6th/7th. Regardless, this means your Devastators and "Rifleman" Dreadnoughts cause enemy plasma to kill their bearers on 2s rather than 1s. Stick your long range shooters in cover and enjoy near immunity to return fire. Sadly, this does not apply to vehicles which do not receive Chapter Tactics, so replace that tri-las Predator with a Devastator squad if you don't plan on moving. Obviously, this is very fluffy for the Raptors...too bad you can't take the Stalker Pattern Boltguns that are a [[Deathwatch]] exclusive.... But wait! The Primaris Vanguard are here, bringing [[Infiltrator]] and [[Eliminator]] units that play on the table the way Raptors were always supposed to fight in fluff.		In 8th edition, the Raptors are now slumming it, have to utilize the Chapter Tactics of the [[Raven Guard]], which oddly enough seems to fit the Raptors better than their more emo big brothers. Your opponent must subtract 1 from any hit rolls when shooting at units with this tactic if they are more than 12" away...you'd think the Raven Guard would get that benefit at LESS than 12in away, considering they're all about assault...but all the better for us Raptors players who are used to using our rending gunlines in 6th/7th. Regardless, this means your Devastators and "Rifleman" Dreadnoughts cause enemy plasma to kill their bearers on 2s rather than 1s. Stick your long range shooters in cover and enjoy near immunity to return fire. Sadly, this does not apply to vehicles which do not receive Chapter Tactics, so replace that tri-las Predator with a Devastator squad if you don't plan on moving. Obviously, this is very fluffy for the Raptors...too bad you can't take the Stalker Pattern Boltguns that are a [[Deathwatch]] exclusive.... But wait! The Primaris Vanguard are here, bringing [[Infiltrator]] and [[Eliminator]] units that play on the table the way Raptors were always supposed to fight in fluff.

	[[Forgeworld]] has also blessed us with the rules for the Raptors' [[Chapter Master]] [[Lias Issodon]], who is quite a curious character in both [[fluff]] and [[crunch]], and the rules reflect that fact. Lias has the stats of your standard [[Chapter Master]], but with less focus on melee and more on shooting, boasting a high BS for a Marine. He lacks Orbital Bombardment and any kind of Invulnerability Save, but his gun and special rules make up for that: in 7th edition, his personal [[bolter]] Malice is a Salvo 2/4 Range 30" Bolter with access to the same Special Ammunition as the Sternguard and is one of the better weapons in the game period, and his special rules make him into a [[Just As Planned\|highly strategic character]], penalizing the enemy's reserve rolls while being able to re-roll his own and being able to cripple one MC or vehicle of the enemy's before the game has started. In short, Lias is exactly what you would expect a Raptors Chapter Master to be: [[Shooty]], strategic, and reasonable.		[[Forgeworld]] has also blessed us with the rules for the Raptors' [[Chapter Master]] [[Lias Issodon]], who is quite a curious character in both [[fluff]] and [[crunch]], and the rules reflect that fact. Lias has the stats of your standard [[Chapter Master]], but with less focus on melee and more on shooting, boasting a high BS for a Marine. He lacks Orbital Bombardment and any kind of Invulnerability Save, but his gun and special rules make up for that: in 7th edition, his personal [[bolter]] Malice is a Salvo 2/4 Range 30" Bolter with access to the same Special Ammunition as the Sternguard and is one of the better weapons in the game period, and his special rules make him into a [[Just As Planned\|highly strategic character]], penalizing the enemy's reserve rolls while being able to re-roll his own and being able to cripple one MC or vehicle of the enemy's before the game has started. In short, Lias is exactly what you would expect a Raptors Chapter Master to be: [[Shooty]], strategic, and reasonable.

	In 8th edition, he's even better, and one of the few ways you can still infiltrate your power armor without a drop pod. His bolter "Malice" is now 30" Assault 3 S5 AP-4 D1d3...which is possibly the strongest bolter in the Imperium. Disappointingly, GW has mixed up his characterization as either a "rifleman" or a "sniper;" while he is stealthier than any other character with his "0+" save in cover, he can't "snipe" characters. Instead, he shows off his marksmanship ability by negating the cover bonus to the saving throws of his targets...so at AP-4, MEQs will essentially NEVER get a save against him. So instead of "Carlos Hathcock" sniper-crawling through the enemy's lines for the perfect assassination, he's more of an "Alvin York," infiltrating enemy lines and taking out the enemy's priority weapons. This analogy is even stronger considering he LOVES launching assaulting forces forward with his +1in to movement and charges. Keep him in your mid-field battleline or well hidden among your infiltrators, and he'll do your army many favors with his shooting and other utilities. He has no official model, but if you want to run him (and can’t be asked to convert your own) the Forge World Alpha Legion Praetor, Legion Vigilator, or any marine from the Mk IV Recon Squad will serve as a fantastic proxy. A Vanguard Captain with an Eliminators bits are also good proxies if you want shiny truescale.		In 8th edition, he's even better, and one of the few ways you can still infiltrate your power armor without a drop pod. His bolter "Malice" is now 30" Assault 3 S5 AP-4 D1d3...which is possibly the strongest bolter in the Imperium. Disappointingly, GW has mixed up his characterization as either a "rifleman" or a "sniper;" while he is stealthier than any other character with his "0+" save in cover, he can't "snipe" characters. Instead, he shows off his marksmanship ability by negating the cover bonus to the saving throws of his targets...so at AP-4, MEQs will essentially NEVER get a save against him. So instead of "Carlos Hathcock" sniper-crawling through the enemy's lines for the perfect assassination, he's more of an "Alvin York," infiltrating enemy lines and taking out the enemy's priority weapons. This analogy is even stronger considering he LOVES launching assaulting forces forward with his +1in to movement and charges. Keep him in your mid-field battleline or well hidden among your infiltrators, and he'll do your army many favors with his shooting and other utilities. He has no official model, but if you want to run him (and can’t be asked to convert your own) the Forge World Alpha Legion Praetor, Legion Vigilator, or any marine from the Mk IV Recon Squad will serve as a fantastic proxy. A Vanguard Captain with an Eliminators bits are also good proxies if you want shiny truescale.

	==Gallery==		==Gallery==

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	File:Sneekiscouts.jpg\|A kill-team of scouts getting ready to ambush some genestealers, all in true raptors fashion.		File:Sneekiscouts.jpg\|A kill-team of scouts getting ready to ambush some genestealers, all in true raptors fashion.
			File:George-earl-abalayan-reasonablemarine-raptor-by-earltheartist.jpg\|The line between reasonable and tacticool is tough to ascertain
			File:Raptors_marine_by_bobot073_dbxp521.png\|A Raptor Marine, all suited up for a mission.
			File:Primaris_raptor_marine_by_bobot073_ddr5nza.png\|You can bet your plastic crack that these guys were overjoyed when the Tacticool [[Primaris Space Marines \| Primaris Boys]] came out
			File:George-earl-abalayan-astartessniper-by-earltheartist.jpg\| [[Team Fortress 2\| "Thanks for standin' still, wanker."]]
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	{{Disambiguation\|the chapter of Canon [[Reasonable Marines]]\|the evil Assault Marines\|Chaos Raptor}}		{{Disambiguation\|the chapter of Canon [[Reasonable Marines]]\|the [[Chaos Space Marines\|evil]] [[Assault Squad\|Assault Marines]]\|Chaos Raptor}}
	{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter		{{Infobox Spess Mahreen Chapter
	\|Name = Raptors		\|Name = Raptors

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	\|Primarch = [[Corvus Corax]]		\|Primarch = [[Corvus Corax]]
	\|Homeworld = Unknown (somewhere in the Sutter Spiral Nebula)		\|Homeworld = Unknown (somewhere in the Sutter Spiral Nebula)
	\|Specialty = [~~https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Kill_Team_~~(~~Specialist_Game~~) Guerilla Warfare & Recon]		\|Specialty = [[Kill Team (Specialist Game)\|Guerilla Warfare & Recon]]
	\|Strength = 1000 Marines		\|Strength = 1000 Marines
	\|Allegiance = [[Imperium]]		\|Allegiance = [[Imperium]]

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	[[Image:250px-Raptor ambush.jpg\|frame\|left\|300px\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfNarCjSHM\| A rare recording of the Raptors Battle Cry.]]]		[[Image:250px-Raptor ambush.jpg\|frame\|left\|300px\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfNarCjSHM\| A rare recording of the Raptors Battle Cry.]]]

	Their origins are also a bit muddled~~. As~~ the original Raptors were super Space Marines ten thousand years (and over a decade IRL) before the [[Primaris Space Marines]] even existed. [[Rage\|(Yes, you are now hearing the sound of a bullet being rechambered by each and every RG and/or Raptors fanboy who owns at least one firearm after reading this.)]] Corax wanted to get his boys back into the fight as quickly as possible after the events of the [[Drop Site Massacre]]~~. So~~ he sought a solution from [[Emperor of Mankind\|~~daddy~~]]~~. The~~ one guy who'd know the most about making Space Marines quickly.		Their origins are also a bit muddled, as the original Raptors were super Space Marines ten thousand years (and over a decade IRL) before the [[Primaris Space Marines]] even existed. [[Rage\|Yes, you are now hearing the sound of a bullet being rechambered by each and every RG and/or Raptors fanboy who owns at least one firearm after reading this.]] Corax wanted to get his boys back into the fight as quickly as possible after the events of the [[Drop Site Massacre]], so he sought a solution from [[Emperor of Mankind\|Daddy]], the one guy who'd know the most about making Space Marines quickly.

	Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford. The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. ~~Though unlike~~ other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories]] [[Death Company\|, still sane, loyal ~~and~~ able to tell friend from foe.]] ~~Though~~ they were a bit paranoid. ~~But~~ who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?		Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?

	Whether the current Raptors are descended from their more stable predecessors, a perfected version, or Corax just ~~named~~ the chapter in honor of the original super Space Marines during the [[Second Founding]] is unknown. The last ~~one~~ is more likely as the current Imperium can't make proper records as to where their own bodily excretions go, much less their cool toys.		Whether the current Raptors are descended from their more stable predecessors, a perfected version, or Corax just naming the chapter in honor of the original super Space Marines during the [[Second Founding]] is unknown. The last theory is more likely as the current Imperium can't make proper records as to where their own bodily excretions go, much less their cool toys.

	==Fire Warrior==		==Fire Warrior==
	[[Image:Raptors.png\|frame\|right\|250px\|Apparently, they were not always that reasonable, judging by their old color scheme]]		[[Image:Raptors.png\|frame\|right\|250px\|Apparently, they were not always that reasonable, judging by their old color scheme]]
	In one of its only known large actions, its 3rd and 6th companies participated in the Taros Campaign along with a bunch of Tallarn, Cadian, and Elysian regiments, to kick the Tau out of Taros. Needless to say, after two regiments were annihilated, half of the fleet was destroyed, and the [[Avenging Sons]] Chapter lost basically its whole task force, the Imperial forces retreated. Through all of this, after the initial assault on the anti-space missile silo, fully mechanized ~~force~~ of Raptors were mostly used in conjunction with Cadian armoured ~~regiment~~ as a quick response force, and as Tau went to great lengths to avoid them (which they did successfully being much quicker themselves) they suffered the least amount of casualties amongst the Imperium's ground forces. Later they were used in the operation Comet, once again with Cadians and some titans, and kicked major ass~~, although~~ while they managed to repel all Tau forces thrown at them, it did slow them down a bit, and bought the xenos enough time to eradicate the [[Elysian Drop Troops]] and destroy the water processing plant (securing it was the main objective of the operation). Following this failure, and the clusterfuck that was an assassination of Aun'El, they~~'ve~~ retreated to the LZ, robbing Tallarn ~~desert raiders~~ of what was left of their fuel and leaving them to die in the desert from thirst and angry gunzerking Tau. In the end however, it was the Raptors who defended the LZ for long enough to let what was left of ~~imperial~~ forces to evacuate, although both sides suffered big casualties in this fight, mostly ~~'cause~~ the Tau were too mad-angry with vengeance and threw away any sense of tactics, going for a full frontal attack on a heavily fortified position.		In one of its only known large actions, its 3rd and 6th companies participated in the Taros Campaign along with a bunch of Tallarn, Cadian, and Elysian regiments, to kick the Tau out of Taros. Needless to say, after two regiments were annihilated, half of the fleet was destroyed, and the [[Avenging Sons]] Chapter lost basically its whole task force, the Imperial forces retreated. Through all of this, after the initial assault on the anti-space missile silo, fully mechanized forces of Raptors were mostly used in conjunction with Cadian armoured regiments as a quick response force, and as the Tau went to great lengths to avoid them (which they did successfully being much quicker themselves), they suffered the least amount of casualties amongst the Imperium's ground forces. Later, they were used in the operation Comet, once again with Cadians and some titans, and kicked major ass; while they managed to repel all Tau forces thrown at them, it did slow them down a bit and bought the xenos enough time to eradicate the [[Elysian Drop Troops]] and destroy the water processing plant (securing it was the main objective of the operation). Following this failure, and the clusterfuck that was the assassination of Aun'El, they retreated to the LZ, robbing the Tallarn Desert Raiders of what was left of their fuel and leaving them to die in the desert from thirst and angry gunzerking Tau. In the end, however, it was the Raptors who defended the LZ for long enough to let what was left of the Imperial forces to evacuate, although both sides suffered big casualties in this fight, mostly because the Tau were too mad-angry with vengeance and threw away any sense of tactics, going for a full frontal attack on a heavily fortified position.

	Ironically in Fire Warrior they were portrayed as [[Red Scorpions\|reckless assholes known for jumping into missions without any real planning]]~~. Which~~ started the whole plot and the [[Ultramarines]] show up to fix their mess and beat them over the head with the ~~codex~~; fun fact - these events take place before the [[Badab War]] meaning the ~~Smurf~~ may have in fact turned the Raptors into Reasonable Marines.		Ironically, in Fire Warrior they were portrayed as [[Red Scorpions\|reckless assholes known for jumping into missions without any real planning]], which started the whole plot and caused the [[Ultramarines]] to show up to fix their mess and beat them over the head with the Codex; fun fact - these events take place before the [[Badab War]], meaning the Smurfs may have in fact turned the Raptors into Reasonable Marines.

	Or maybe because at the time they were a background chapter written by two different groups.		Or maybe because at the time they were a background chapter written by two different groups.

	Probably the second one~~. Especially~~ given that the Raptors in the game had olive drab armor, which is their base color scheme after they became Reasonable Marines. ~~Then~~ again their lore still states they used to be very different to what they are now and only ~~change~~ their ways after a disaster; working for a Chaos ~~Worshiper resulting in~~ a whole planet turning to ~~chaos~~ because you didn't bother to wonder why he needed an alien ~~only to be~~ saved by the Ultramarines sounds like a pretty good turning point. ~~Except~~ there is already a canonical cause of their change. They became Reasonable Marines to survive when stranded on a planet. Of course, by "reasonable", we mean they think before they act. If you told them to parley with xenos they'd [[Commissar\|fill you full of bolter rounds]]. Better still, the Raptors make a habit of taking command of Imperial Guard forces where they fight and distributing their marines amongst the Guard forces under their command. The result is the Guard kicking ass and taking minimal casualties while maximizing the enemies'. Who knows, maybe the Raptors will eventually take some Guard regiments under their wing and make them [[Awesome\|mini-me]] Reasonable Marines? ~~Technicall~~ this practice is illegal, but the Marines were given command of the mortal military by the Emperor himself so "illegal" is more like "inappropriate" in this case. Not that they care ~~and~~ somehow I doubt Imperial Guard generals are going to look a gift horse of superhuman intellect in the mouth.		Probably the second one, especially given that the Raptors in the game had olive drab armor, which is their base color scheme after they became Reasonable Marines... then again, their lore still states they used to be very different to what they are now and only changed their ways after a disaster; working for a Chaos Worshipper only for it to snowball into a whole planet turning to Chaos because you didn't bother to wonder why he needed an alien, then getting saved by the Ultramarines sounds like a pretty good turning point. However, there is already a canonical cause of their change. They became Reasonable Marines to survive when they got stranded on a planet. Of course, by "reasonable", we mean they think before they act. If you told them to parley with xenos they'd [[Commissar\|fill you full of bolter rounds]]. Better still, the Raptors make a habit of taking command of Imperial Guard forces where they fight and distributing their marines amongst the Guard forces under their command. The result is the Guard kicking ass and taking minimal casualties while maximizing the enemies'. Who knows, maybe the Raptors will eventually take some Guard regiments under their wing and make them [[Awesome\|mini-me]] Reasonable Marines? Technically, this practice is illegal, but the Marines were given command of the mortal military by the Emperor himself, so "illegal" is more like "inappropriate" in this case. Not that they care; somehow I doubt Imperial Guard generals are going to look a gift horse of superhuman intellect in the mouth.

	== Daily routine ==		== Daily routine ==

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	[[Image:250px-Raptor ambush.jpg\|frame\|left\|300px\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfNarCjSHM\| A rare recording of the Raptors Battle Cry.]]]		[[Image:250px-Raptor ambush.jpg\|frame\|left\|300px\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfNarCjSHM\| A rare recording of the Raptors Battle Cry.]]]

	Their origins are also a bit muddled, as the original Raptors were super Space Marines ten thousand years (and over a decade IRL) before the [[Primaris Space Marines]] even existed. [[Rage\|Yes, you are now hearing the sound of a bullet being rechambered by each and every RG and/or Raptors fanboy who owns at least one firearm after reading this.]] Corax wanted to get his boys back into the fight as quickly as possible after the events of the [[Drop Site Massacre]], so he sought a solution from [[Emperor of Mankind\|Daddy]], the one guy who'd know the most about making Space Marines quickly.		Their origins are also a bit muddled, as the [[Raptors (Raven Guard)\|original Raptors]] were super Space Marines ten thousand years (and over a decade IRL) before the [[Primaris Space Marines]] even existed. [[Rage\|Yes, you are now hearing the sound of a bullet being rechambered by each and every RG and/or Raptors fanboy who owns at least one firearm after reading this.]] Corax wanted to get his boys back into the fight as quickly as possible after the events of the [[Drop Site Massacre]], so he sought a solution from [[Emperor of Mankind\|Daddy]], the one guy who'd know the most about making Space Marines quickly.

	Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?		Since time was a luxury they couldn't afford, The Emperor directed him to his old labs on Luna and Corax took as much he could with him back to Deliverance. The [[Alpha Legion]] caught wind of this and poisoned the following batches, causing half of the Raptors to mutate into hideous beasts. Unlike other [[Wulfen\|mutant Space Marines, these "super" Raptors didn't make up sketchy bullshit stories about their mutation]] [[Death Company\|and were still sane and loyal enough to be able to tell friend from foe.]] That said, they were a bit paranoid. Honestly, who wouldn't be after being turned into a mutant by the Alpha Legion?