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	{{Topquote\|Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.\|[[Isaac Asimov]], Foundation}}		{{Topquote\|Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.\|[[Isaac Asimov]], Foundation}}

	A /tg/ chapter, the '''Reasonable Marines''' are what Space Marines would be if 40K was less grimdark, the Imperium was a benevolent governmental body, Tau were happy Koreans and Abaddon was even more incompetent. They wear camouflaged power armor, fight using careful tactics that make heavy use of cover, and are the epitome of practicality. They also seek to avoid combat whenever possible and are adept diplomats. However, in its own way, being clever badass can be ''even cooler'' than [[Rip and tear\| balls out]] badass.		A /tg/ chapter, the '''Reasonable Marines''' are what Space Marines would be if 40K was less grimdark, the Imperium was a benevolent governmental body, Tau were happy Koreans and Abaddon was even more incompetent. Or at least if Space Marines bothered to read the Codex Astartes. They wear camouflaged power armor, fight using careful tactics that make heavy use of cover, and are the epitome of practicality. They also seek to avoid combat whenever possible and are adept diplomats. However, in its own way, being clever badass can be ''even cooler'' than [[Rip and tear\| balls out]] badass.

	They're one of the legions with the lost Primarchs, their primarch currently wandering around dazed and confused in an alternate reality where he is known as [[Star Trek\|Jean Luc Picard]].		They're one of the legions with the lost Primarchs, their primarch currently wandering around dazed and confused in an alternate reality where he is known as [[Star Trek\|Jean Luc Picard]].

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	;[[Salamanders]]: The two could not be of greater opposites in terms of approaches to combat specialty and tactics, but the two chapters share a high regard for prioritizing human lives over destruction of the enemy. This is why they get along very well and will work together easily enough. It's just that tactically their methods do not synergize at any level higher than ''[[Rogue\|Crouching Tiger]], [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX\|Firebreathing Dragon]]''; they are very different tools for very different purposes and both sides acknowledge that. Conflict does occasionally rise, but is easily diffused because both chapters have humility and patience.		;[[Salamanders]]: The two could not be of greater opposites in terms of approaches to combat specialty and tactics, but the two chapters share a high regard for prioritizing human lives over destruction of the enemy. This is why they get along very well and will work together easily enough. It's just that tactically their methods do not synergize at any level higher than ''[[Rogue\|Crouching Tiger]], [[DISTRACTION CARNIFEX\|Firebreathing Dragon]]''; they are very different tools for very different purposes and both sides acknowledge that. Conflict does occasionally rise, but is easily diffused because both chapters have humility and patience.

			;[[Lamenters]]: Like with the Salamanders, the Reasonable Marines get along very well with the Lamenters. As the Lamenters believe it is their duty to first and foremost sacrifice to defend and protect the people of the imperium, the Reasonable Marines respect and honor their brothers heroism. If there are any clashes it's over the Lamenters' habit being willing to sacrifice any number of their men to save just a few civilians with the Reasonable Marines knowing when to cut their losses and understand when rescue attempts just aren't feasible. Still, this clash in ideals never leads to animosity and both chapters agree to disagree on this point. If there is anything the Reasonable Marines regret, it's not being able to help their Lamenter brothers more due to the Lamenters atrociously cursed luck making any attempts on the Reasonable Marines' part to provide support or backup being practically too late to be of any serious good.

	;[[Space Wolves]]: Relations with the Space Wolves have not been particularly for the better. Like, at all. Not along the same vein of disaster as Black Templars or Blood Angels, the Reasonable Marines still have never worked well with the Wolves. The two share a common hatred of the Inquisition, so they see eye to eye on at least one topic, and might be all that keeps them from being wholly incompatible. But the Wolves' obsession with melee, drunkenness and, well, wolves, doesn't go well with the Reasonable Marines' doctrine. They could ally, but probably under circumstances where they both share a common enemy. While they would make great a buddy-cop action-comedy team, the Reasonable Marines have never forgiven the large role the Space Wolves played in the downfall of the Thousands Sons, so long-term team-ups are unlikely.		;[[Space Wolves]]: Relations with the Space Wolves have not been particularly for the better. Like, at all. Not along the same vein of disaster as Black Templars or Blood Angels, the Reasonable Marines still have never worked well with the Wolves. The two share a common hatred of the Inquisition, so they see eye to eye on at least one topic, and might be all that keeps them from being wholly incompatible. But the Wolves' obsession with melee, drunkenness and, well, wolves, doesn't go well with the Reasonable Marines' doctrine. They could ally, but probably under circumstances where they both share a common enemy. While they would make great a buddy-cop action-comedy team, the Reasonable Marines have never forgiven the large role the Space Wolves played in the downfall of the Thousands Sons, so long-term team-ups are unlikely.

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	"Thank you Brother and the Emperor."		"Thank you Brother and the Emperor."

			==Gallery==
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	==See Also==		==See Also==
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	==External links==		==External links==

	*[http://web.archive.org/web/20100106102259/http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1009422/] The origin of the Reasonable Marines. Notice that they were conceptualized as [[Chaos Space Marines]], excommunicated from the [[Imperium]] for insufficient zeal.		*[http://web.archive.org/web/20100106102259/http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1009422/] The origin of the Reasonable Marines. Notice that they were conceptualized as [[Chaos Space Marines]], excommunicated from the [[Imperium]] for insufficient zeal.
	*[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1470967/] Discussion on a 40K army that would make players rage turns to Reasonable Marines, with a POW camp for "captured" enemy figures.		*[http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1470967/] Discussion on a 40K army that would make players rage turns to Reasonable Marines, with a POW camp for "captured" enemy figures.



	[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]]		[[Category: Warhammer 40,000]]

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	In battle, they employ sophisticated and highly coordinated group tactics not commonly associated with normal space marines. Their armor is painted to blend into their environment in order to limit visibility (maybe camouflaged in multiple spectra so that, for example, their heat signature is harder to detect). No matter how cool it looks, a Reasonable Marine still needs to request permission from their commanding officer to carry nonstandard equipment into battle, and must justify this in a way that demonstrates its effectiveness in combat.		In battle, they employ sophisticated and highly coordinated group tactics not commonly associated with normal space marines. Their armor is painted to blend into their environment in order to limit visibility (maybe camouflaged in multiple spectra so that, for example, their heat signature is harder to detect). No matter how cool it looks, a Reasonable Marine still needs to request permission from their commanding officer to carry nonstandard equipment into battle, and must justify this in a way that demonstrates its effectiveness in combat.

	One of their mottoes is Sun-Tzu's saying, "For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill", which is actually pretty fucking long for a motto.		One of their mottoes is Sun-Tzu's saying, "For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill", which is actually pretty fucking long for a motto. Honestly the second half of the statement alone would probably make for a better motto; it gets the point across just as well.

	As such, they're super happy sunshine puppy best friends with the Tau since they are the only other faction who have the word "Reasonable" in their dictionaries. It doesn't mean they haven't come to blows, mind you, since there are a few occasions where there are things too vital to give to another. However it can be guaranteed that the Reasonable Marines would attempt to pacify them with as little killing as possible to minimize future aggressions.		As such, they're super happy sunshine puppy best friends with the Tau since they are the only other faction who have the word "Reasonable" in their dictionaries. It doesn't mean they haven't come to blows, mind you, since there are a few occasions where there are things too vital to give to another. However it can be guaranteed that the Reasonable Marines would attempt to pacify them with as little killing as possible to minimize future aggressions.

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	;[[Leagues of Votann]]:		;[[Leagues of Votann]]:

	: For various reasons the Reasonable Marines only recently encountered the Leagues of Votann (it's a big galaxy). As one brother-sergeant recalled, they appeared as astartes grown from ratlings, approaching on a stout, armored vehicle resembling a mining rover encrusted with guns. This impression quickly soured when they opened their mouths... "WATS DIS THEN? MARINES in fookin nambyarse cammefloss?! Don'cha want yer enemy to see ya when dey fookin die?"		: For various reasons the Reasonable Marines only recently encountered the Leagues of Votann (it's a big galaxy). As one brother-sergeant recalled, they appeared as astartes grown from ratlings, approaching on a [[Hekaton_Land_Fortress\|stout, armored vehicle resembling a mining rover encrusted with guns]]. This impression quickly soured when they opened their mouths... "WATS DIS THEN? MARINES in fookin nambyarse cammefloss?! Don'cha want yer enemy to see ya when dey fookin die?"

	: This has been the dynamic between the two since. Whatever merits the leagues might have; their hardiness and determination, their proficiency with technology, etc, is completely squandered by their unique outlook on life.		: This has been the dynamic between the two since. Whatever merits the leagues might have; their hardiness and determination, their proficiency with technology, etc, is completely squandered by their unique outlook on life.

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	: For various reasons the Reasonable Marines only recently encountered the Leagues of Votann (it's a big galaxy). As one brother-sergeant recalled, they appeared as astartes ~~made~~ from ratlings, approaching on a vehicle ~~that seemed like nothing so much as~~ a mining rover encrusted with guns. This impression quickly soured when they opened their mouths... "WATS DIS THEN? MARINES in fookin nambyarse cammefloss?! Don'cha want yer enemy to see ya when dey fookin die?"		: For various reasons the Reasonable Marines only recently encountered the Leagues of Votann (it's a big galaxy). As one brother-sergeant recalled, they appeared as astartes grown from ratlings, approaching on a stout, armored vehicle resembling a mining rover encrusted with guns. This impression quickly soured when they opened their mouths... "WATS DIS THEN? MARINES in fookin nambyarse cammefloss?! Don'cha want yer enemy to see ya when dey fookin die?"

	: This has been the dynamic between the two since. Whatever merits the leagues might have; their hardiness and determination, their proficiency with technology, etc, is completely squandered by their unique outlook on life.		: This has been the dynamic between the two since. Whatever merits the leagues might have; their hardiness and determination, their proficiency with technology, etc, is completely squandered by their unique outlook on life.

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	(insert new Primaris lore here)		(insert new Primaris lore here)

	== Relations to Other Races==		==Relations to Other Races==

	Given the Reasonable Marine's radically different outlook on the galaxy they wage war in, it's not too surprising that the traditional dispositions the Space Marines possess are also radically different. This isn't necessarily a good thing for them, however, as the realm of 40k isn't one that is particularly enamored towards reason. Outside of their own systems, the Reasonable Marines are painted as a threat to the Imperium by the High Lords of Terra and Inquisition, who fear that such reason coupled with the iconic might and position of an astartes chapter could quickly bring about another mass heresy. Thus, in a twist of fate, the Reasonable Marines are treated as a traitorous extremis group and find themselves in conflict with the rest of the Imperium almost more often than the alien or heretic. Relations with the other Space Marine chapters are generally unstable, but still a step up from the Inquisition and Imperial Guard forces.		Given the Reasonable Marine's radically different outlook on the galaxy they wage war in, it's not too surprising that the traditional dispositions the Space Marines possess are also radically different. This isn't necessarily a good thing for them, however, as the realm of 40k isn't one that is particularly enamored towards reason. Outside of their own systems, the Reasonable Marines are painted as a threat to the Imperium by the High Lords of Terra and Inquisition, who fear that such reason coupled with the iconic might and position of an astartes chapter could quickly bring about another mass heresy. Thus, in a twist of fate, the Reasonable Marines are treated as a traitorous extremis group and find themselves in conflict with the rest of the Imperium almost more often than the alien or heretic. Relations with the other Space Marine chapters are generally unstable, but still a step up from the Inquisition and Imperial Guard forces.
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	<div style="font-family:monospace; font-style:italic">The uniforms of the Imperial Guard are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight.<br/>The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill.<br/>This is not the way of the Adeptus Astartes.<br/>A Space Marine’s armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims his devotion to his Chapter and the beloved Emperor of Mankind.<br/>Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear…<br/>Chaplain Aston, Fire Hawks 10th Company</div>		<div style="font-family:monospace; font-style:italic">The uniforms of the Imperial Guard are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight.<br/>The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill.<br/>This is not the way of the Adeptus Astartes.<br/>A Space Marine’s armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims his devotion to his Chapter and the beloved Emperor of Mankind.<br/>Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear…<br/>Chaplain Aston, Fire Hawks 10th Company</div>

	=== Xenos ===		===Xenos===

	;[[Eldar]]: As with all other forces of the Imperium, the Reasonable Marines are naturally distrustful of the Eldar. However, the Chapter has come to accept that it is very possible the Eldar possess knowledge and foresight of events that they do not, and as such give them a bit more leeway and take heed of their warnings. However, the Reasonable Marines refuse to be used as unwitting pawns and do not hesitate to bring force into the equation if there is evidence that they are being treated as an expendable asset (as the Eldar often do when they deal with 'lesser' races). While they generally apply the same ethics they treat all other races with, the Reasonable Marines have often resorted to abducting and taking Farseers, Warlocks, or Autarchs hostage to make it clear that they will not be used. Curiously however, The Reasonable Marines claim three Exodite worlds as their own, having come under their protection after the craftworld Biel-tan abandoned them to an Emperor's Children warfleet which was eventually repelled by the combined efforts of the Exodites and the Reasonable Marines. Having come to a rapport with the Exodites, the Reasonable Marines called in a few of the exceedingly rare favours the Ordo Xenos owed them. To date these three worlds, Lotharis, Galadrian, and Maeveriat are the only sanctioned Xenos worlds in the entire Imperium, even if knowledge of these worlds are reserved to only a select few outside the chapter's borders. The Marines make use of the Exodites by having them teach additional skills to their Apothecaries and Librarians, the Eldar agree to this for their own safety, ensuring that their new protectors suffer fewer casualties and remain uncorrupted by Chaos. It is a symbiotic relationship that has served both peoples well. Additionally, Exodite items are very popular when trading with the Tau. They have extremely friendly relations with Ynnari.		;[[Eldar]]: As with all other forces of the Imperium, the Reasonable Marines are naturally distrustful of the Eldar. However, the Chapter has come to accept that it is very possible the Eldar possess knowledge and foresight of events that they do not, and as such give them a bit more leeway and take heed of their warnings. However, the Reasonable Marines refuse to be used as unwitting pawns and do not hesitate to bring force into the equation if there is evidence that they are being treated as an expendable asset (as the Eldar often do when they deal with 'lesser' races). While they generally apply the same ethics they treat all other races with, the Reasonable Marines have often resorted to abducting and taking Farseers, Warlocks, or Autarchs hostage to make it clear that they will not be used. Curiously however, The Reasonable Marines claim three Exodite worlds as their own, having come under their protection after the craftworld Biel-tan abandoned them to an Emperor's Children warfleet which was eventually repelled by the combined efforts of the Exodites and the Reasonable Marines. Having come to a rapport with the Exodites, the Reasonable Marines called in a few of the exceedingly rare favours the Ordo Xenos owed them. To date these three worlds, Lotharis, Galadrian, and Maeveriat are the only sanctioned Xenos worlds in the entire Imperium, even if knowledge of these worlds are reserved to only a select few outside the chapter's borders. The Marines make use of the Exodites by having them teach additional skills to their Apothecaries and Librarians, the Eldar agree to this for their own safety, ensuring that their new protectors suffer fewer casualties and remain uncorrupted by Chaos. It is a symbiotic relationship that has served both peoples well. Additionally, Exodite items are very popular when trading with the Tau. They have extremely friendly relations with Ynnari.
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	;[[Necrons]]: For the longest time the marching hordes of Necrons have been another example of shooting first and not even bothering to ask questions later in the Chapter history. However, this changed once news began cropping up that the Blood Angels (a chapter they long since held with some contempt) actually managed to ally with them to fight off Tyranids and then peacefully part afterward. Upon closer examination, it became apparent with time that many Necron forces seemed to be displaying an emergent organization- a civilization, no less. In fact, the disposition and behavior of Necron forces began to vary so wildly the chapter was forced to reevaluate the race as a whole. In fact, the chapter has found occasional allies in the Necrons. Though the Reasonable Marines are grateful for the powerful support, they also study those Necrons whom they do approach, in an effort to discern their motives (no small challenge in its own right) . They are not eager to turn on a valuable ally, but neither will they allow the Imperium to fall to Necron rule, be it through force or politics. Despite this newfound position as a sentient race with rights, in combat the Marines apply full lethal force against them. This is largely due to the Necrons unique physiology, whom seem fully incapable of registering pain, let alone truly die. Currently the chapter has found an oddly steady relationship with several of the larger dynasties, where their techmarines (whose science is unhindered by the dogma of the Imperial cult) have collaborated with the Necrons to study potential cures for the flayer virus and the symptoms of dementia overtaking the eldest members. Already under heavy scrutiny by the Inquisition, this partnership is kept top secret even amongst the initiates of the Reasonable Marines, and even the senior officers are aware of the thin ice such an alliance skates.		;[[Necrons]]: For the longest time the marching hordes of Necrons have been another example of shooting first and not even bothering to ask questions later in the Chapter history. However, this changed once news began cropping up that the Blood Angels (a chapter they long since held with some contempt) actually managed to ally with them to fight off Tyranids and then peacefully part afterward. Upon closer examination, it became apparent with time that many Necron forces seemed to be displaying an emergent organization- a civilization, no less. In fact, the disposition and behavior of Necron forces began to vary so wildly the chapter was forced to reevaluate the race as a whole. In fact, the chapter has found occasional allies in the Necrons. Though the Reasonable Marines are grateful for the powerful support, they also study those Necrons whom they do approach, in an effort to discern their motives (no small challenge in its own right) . They are not eager to turn on a valuable ally, but neither will they allow the Imperium to fall to Necron rule, be it through force or politics. Despite this newfound position as a sentient race with rights, in combat the Marines apply full lethal force against them. This is largely due to the Necrons unique physiology, whom seem fully incapable of registering pain, let alone truly die. Currently the chapter has found an oddly steady relationship with several of the larger dynasties, where their techmarines (whose science is unhindered by the dogma of the Imperial cult) have collaborated with the Necrons to study potential cures for the flayer virus and the symptoms of dementia overtaking the eldest members. Already under heavy scrutiny by the Inquisition, this partnership is kept top secret even amongst the initiates of the Reasonable Marines, and even the senior officers are aware of the thin ice such an alliance skates.

	=== [[Chaos]] ===		===[[Chaos]]===

	Naturally, it doesn't take much of a genius to realize by now that the Reasonable Marines would never allow Chaos to run rampant. Chaos daemons and the Traitor Legions are treated with the same aggressive and unrelenting effort that any other true loyalist chapter would display. On rare occasions the Traitor Legions have looked the other way in the presence of the Reasonable Marines, perhaps because word spread that they know the Emperor not to be a god or figure of total adoration. Regardless, the Legions pose a grave threat and as such the Reasonable Marines will defend the Imperium accordingly.		Naturally, it doesn't take much of a genius to realize by now that the Reasonable Marines would never allow Chaos to run rampant. Chaos daemons and the Traitor Legions are treated with the same aggressive and unrelenting effort that any other true loyalist chapter would display. On rare occasions the Traitor Legions have looked the other way in the presence of the Reasonable Marines, perhaps because word spread that they know the Emperor not to be a god or figure of total adoration. Regardless, the Legions pose a grave threat and as such the Reasonable Marines will defend the Imperium accordingly.
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	==Axenario 2##		==Axenario 2==

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	==See Also==		==See Also==
	*[[~~Knights_Inductor\|~~Knights Inductor]] - Reasonable Marines with 75% less meme content.		*[[Knights Inductor]] - Reasonable Marines with 75% less meme content.
	*[[~~Codex - Knights Inductor\|~~Codex - Knights Inductor]] - Play said Reasonable Marines!		*[[Codex - Knights Inductor]] - Play said Reasonable Marines!
	*[[Marines Immaculate]] - An offshoot of the Reasonable Marines, turned to Chaos.		*[[Marines Immaculate]] - An offshoot of the Reasonable Marines, turned to Chaos.
	*[[Raptors (Chapter)]] - a chapter of marines who fit reasonable marines description nicely or are tactically incompetent depending on the source.		*[[Raptors (Chapter)]] - a chapter of marines who fit reasonable marines description nicely or are tactically incompetent depending on the source.
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	*[[Retributors]] - a [[Awesome\|fanmade-turned-official]] take on Reasonable Marines.		*[[Retributors]] - a [[Awesome\|fanmade-turned-official]] take on Reasonable Marines.

	== External links ==		==External links==

	*[http://web.archive.org/web/20100106102259/http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1009422/] The origin of the Reasonable Marines. Notice that they were conceptualized as [[Chaos Space Marines]], excommunicated from the [[Imperium]] for insufficient zeal.		*[http://web.archive.org/web/20100106102259/http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1009422/] The origin of the Reasonable Marines. Notice that they were conceptualized as [[Chaos Space Marines]], excommunicated from the [[Imperium]] for insufficient zeal.

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	;[[Dark Eldar]]: It would seem surprising that the Reasonable Marines would employ non-lethal weaponry against many of Commoragh's kabals, but the usage here is for a different reason. The Dark Eldar are perhaps one of the only races the Chapter holds and embraces a hatred towards that would be recognizable amongst the other loyalist chapters. Here, the Reasonable Marines use their non-lethal weaponry, stealth and diplomatic skills to deprive the pirates of the thrills they seek in their realspace raids. It is not uncommon for the Reasonable Marines to swap over to lethal weaponry should the raiders prove particularly aggressive or sport a clear agenda they intend to fulfill, something even the Reasonable Marines don't mind admitting they look forward to on such occasions.		;[[Dark Eldar]]: It would seem surprising that the Reasonable Marines would employ non-lethal weaponry against many of Commoragh's kabals, but the usage here is for a different reason. The Dark Eldar are perhaps one of the only races the Chapter holds and embraces a hatred towards that would be recognizable amongst the other loyalist chapters. Here, the Reasonable Marines use their non-lethal weaponry, stealth and diplomatic skills to deprive the pirates of the thrills they seek in their realspace raids. It is not uncommon for the Reasonable Marines to swap over to lethal weaponry should the raiders prove particularly aggressive or sport a clear agenda they intend to fulfill, something even the Reasonable Marines don't mind admitting they look forward to on such occasions.

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	{{Topquote\|Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.\|[[Isaac Asimov]], Foundation}}		{{Topquote\|Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.\|[[Isaac Asimov]], Foundation}}

	A /tg/ chapter, the '''Reasonable Marines''' are what Space Marines would be if 40K was less grimdark, the Imperium was a benevolent governmental body, Tau were happy Koreans and Abaddon was even more incompetent. They wear camouflaged power armor, fight using careful tactics that make heavy use of cover, and are the epitome of practicality. They also seek to avoid combat whenever possible and are adept diplomats. However, in its own way, being clever badass can be ''even cooler'' than [[Rip and tear\| balls out]] badass.		A /tg/ chapter, the '''Reasonable Marines''' are what Space Marines would be if 40K was less grimdark, the Imperium was a benevolent governmental body, Tau were happy Koreans and Abaddon was even more incompetent. Or at least if Space Marines bothered to read the Codex Astartes. They wear camouflaged power armor, fight using careful tactics that make heavy use of cover, and are the epitome of practicality. They also seek to avoid combat whenever possible and are adept diplomats. However, in its own way, being clever badass can be ''even cooler'' than [[Rip and tear\| balls out]] badass.

	They're one of the legions with the lost Primarchs, their primarch currently wandering around dazed and confused in an alternate reality where he is known as [[Star Trek\|Jean Luc Picard]].		They're one of the legions with the lost Primarchs, their primarch currently wandering around dazed and confused in an alternate reality where he is known as [[Star Trek\|Jean Luc Picard]].