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	===Non-D&D Retroclones===		===Non-D&D Retroclones===
			* [[Cepheus Engine]]: Classic ''[[Traveller]]'', without anything from the Third Imperium. Notable for the various alternate settings it's inspiried.
	* ''[[Spooktacular]]'': Another "make money selling your house rules as a new game" retroclone, except this one is a ripoff of ''[[Ghostbusters RPG]]'' instead of ''Dungeons & Dragons''. Published by Yaruki Zero Games		* ''[[Spooktacular]]'': Another "make money selling your house rules as a new game" retroclone, except this one is a ripoff of ''[[Ghostbusters RPG]]'' instead of ''Dungeons & Dragons''. Published by Yaruki Zero Games
	* ''[[Zweihander]]'': Another non-''D&D'' retroclone, this time based on the much-loved second edition of ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]]''. Published by Grim & Perilous Studios.		* ''[[Zweihander]]'': Another non-''D&D'' retroclone, this time based on the much-loved second edition of ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay]]''. Published by Grim & Perilous Studios.

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	===Others===		===Others===
	* ''Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea'': ''AS&SH'' is an [[Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons#AD&D_1st_Edition\|''AD&D'' 1e]] OSR game which is, as the name suggests, inspired by the [[Conan the Barbarian\|works of Robert E Howard]] and co. Its big twist is the large amounts of subclasses to the usual [[Fighter]]/Magic-User/[[Cleric]]/[[Rogue]] array, meaning parties can quickly differentiate themselves... which is necessary, because there are no demi-humans. The "races" are all based on races of men from old Conan stories: Kimmerians, Picts, [[Viking]]s, Stygians, et cetera. Published by North Wind Adventures		* ''[[Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea]]'': ''AS&SH'' is an [[Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons#AD&D_1st_Edition\|''AD&D'' 1e]] OSR game which is, as the name suggests, inspired by the [[Conan the Barbarian\|works of Robert E Howard]] and co. Its big twist is the large amounts of subclasses to the usual [[Fighter]]/Magic-User/[[Cleric]]/[[Rogue]] array, meaning parties can quickly differentiate themselves... which is necessary, because there are no demi-humans. The "races" are all based on races of men from old Conan stories: Kimmerians, Picts, [[Viking]]s, Stygians, et cetera. Published by North Wind Adventures
	* ''[[The Black Hack]]'': First edition retroclone that use roll-under mechanics for everything. Add some unique ideas like the Usage Die to the mix.		* ''[[The Black Hack]]'': First edition retroclone that use roll-under mechanics for everything. Add some unique ideas like the Usage Die to the mix.
	* ''[[Castles & Crusades]]'': An AD&D 1e by way of D20. Its big change is the addition of "Prime" attributes, which give a base chance of 12 versus non prime attributes base chance of 18, meaning characters are more specialized. Published by Troll Lord Games		* ''[[Castles & Crusades]]'': An AD&D 1e by way of D20. Its big change is the addition of "Prime" attributes, which give a base chance of 12 versus non prime attributes base chance of 18, meaning characters are more specialized. Published by Troll Lord Games

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	==See Also==		==See Also==
	*[[Old School Roleplaying]]		*[[Old School Roleplaying]]

			{{Retroclones}}

	[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]]		[[Category:Dungeons & Dragons]]
	[[Category:Old school]]		[[Category:Old school]]

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	==For Your Reading Pleasure==		==For Your Reading Pleasure==
	[[File:Map_of_OSR.png\|~~750px~~\|thumb\|right\|A guide to how OSR any given game is, [[Skub\|allegedly]]]]		[[File:Map_of_OSR.png\|800px\|thumb\|right\|A guide to how OSR any given game is, [[Skub\|allegedly]]]]

	===True OSR===		===True OSR===

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	A '''retroclone''' (commonly referred to as an '''~~OSR~~''', short for "Old School Renaissance ~~game~~") is a knock-off of an older gaming system, for those [[grognard]]s with grey in their [[neckbeards]] that mumble about how things were better "back in my day." However, as everyone grognarded to basically the [[Dungeons_&_Dragons#Original_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|same]] [[Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|systems]], most retroclones are pretty similar, with neckbeards arguing which one is the truest experience (when the real answer [[skub\|is none of them are]]).		A '''retroclone''' (commonly referred to as '''OSRs''', short for "Old School Renaissance games") is a knock-off of an older gaming system, for those [[grognard]]s with grey in their [[neckbeards]] that mumble about how things were better "back in my day." However, as everyone grognarded to basically the [[Dungeons_&_Dragons#Original_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|same]] [[Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|systems]], most retroclones are pretty similar, with neckbeards arguing which one is the truest experience (when the real answer [[skub\|is none of them are]]).

	Nevertheless, given the sheer quantity of retroclones out there, it can be helpful to define broad categories.		Nevertheless, given the sheer quantity of retroclones out there, it can be helpful to define broad categories.

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	A '''retroclone''' (~~sometimes~~ referred to as ~~OSRs~~) is a knock-off of an older gaming system, for those [[grognard]]s with grey in their [[neckbeards]] that mumble about how things were better "back in my day." However, as everyone grognarded to basically the [[Dungeons_&_Dragons#Original_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|same]] [[Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|systems]], most retroclones are pretty similar, with neckbeards arguing which one is the truest experience (when the real answer [[skub\|is none of them are]]).		A '''retroclone''' (commonly referred to as an '''OSR''', short for "Old School Renaissance game") is a knock-off of an older gaming system, for those [[grognard]]s with grey in their [[neckbeards]] that mumble about how things were better "back in my day." However, as everyone grognarded to basically the [[Dungeons_&_Dragons#Original_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|same]] [[Advanced_Dungeons_&_Dragons\|systems]], most retroclones are pretty similar, with neckbeards arguing which one is the truest experience (when the real answer [[skub\|is none of them are]]).

	Nevertheless, given the sheer quantity of retroclones out there, it can be helpful to define broad categories.		Nevertheless, given the sheer quantity of retroclones out there, it can be helpful to define broad categories.

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	** ''Spears of the Dawn'': African fantasy game based on the ''SWN'' ruleset. Setting deftly avoids being bunga-bunga land without going in the opposite direction and pushing the "we wuz kangz n shiet" meme in your face. Written by the same guy who made ''SWN'' after people told him that an OSR game set in fantasy Africa would never sell.		** ''Spears of the Dawn'': African fantasy game based on the ''SWN'' ruleset. Setting deftly avoids being bunga-bunga land without going in the opposite direction and pushing the "we wuz kangz n shiet" meme in your face. Written by the same guy who made ''SWN'' after people told him that an OSR game set in fantasy Africa would never sell.
	** ''Wolves of God'': Set in post-Roman England and using the ''SWN Revised'' ruleset. Currently on Kickstarter til November 8th, 2019.		** ''Wolves of God'': Set in post-Roman England and using the ''SWN Revised'' ruleset. Currently on Kickstarter til November 8th, 2019.
	** ''Worlds Without Number'': ''SWN'''s fantasy counterpart. ''Other Dust'' [[Numenera\|a million years in the future, with magic based on ancient technology]], using the ''SWN Revised'' rules~~. In development, Kickstarter to come~~.		** ''Worlds Without Number'': ''SWN'''s fantasy counterpart. ''Other Dust'' [[Numenera\|a million years in the future, with magic based on ancient technology]], using the ''SWN Revised'' rules.
	* ''Wolf-Packs & Winter Snow'': This is ''LotFP'' adapted for a stone-age setting. Less [[grimdark]] grindcore stuff, more wilderness survival. Magicians record their spells in cave-paintings instead of spellbooks, while the cleric-equivalent gets unreliable spells based on how much attention their god is paying. Uses race-as-class, with Neanderthals and Morlocks instead of Dwarves and Elves. Uses Flesh-&-Grit, where Grit can be easily recovered through a simple ten minute rest and acts as traditional HP and Flesh is gained slowly and recovered slowly. Written by Emmy Allen and Published by Dying Stylishly Games		* ''Wolf-Packs & Winter Snow'': This is ''LotFP'' adapted for a stone-age setting. Less [[grimdark]] grindcore stuff, more wilderness survival. Magicians record their spells in cave-paintings instead of spellbooks, while the cleric-equivalent gets unreliable spells based on how much attention their god is paying. Uses race-as-class, with Neanderthals and Morlocks instead of Dwarves and Elves. Uses Flesh-&-Grit, where Grit can be easily recovered through a simple ten minute rest and acts as traditional HP and Flesh is gained slowly and recovered slowly. Written by Emmy Allen and Published by Dying Stylishly Games

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	Nevertheless, given the sheer quantity of retroclones out there, it can be helpful to define broad categories.		Nevertheless, given the sheer quantity of retroclones out there, it can be helpful to define broad categories.
	* "True OSR" games usually stick as closely as possible to the emulated system. The goal here is not to bring anything new to the table but to provide a more convenient way to play old modules or write new ones, usually by clarifying the old rules, having a more modern layout, etc. ''Old School Essentials'' is a prime example of this, being as close as possible to B/X but with an actually readable layout.		* "True OSR" games usually stick as closely as possible to the emulated system. The goal here is not to bring anything new to the table but to provide a more convenient way to play old modules or write new ones, usually by clarifying the old rules, having a more modern layout, etc. [[Old School Essentials]] is a prime example of this, being as close as possible to B/X but with an actually readable layout.
	* "Pseudo-OSR" games DO bring something new to the table, whether by re-balancing classes, introducing new rules, etc. They are still widely compatible with old modules, but it usually requires some conversion (switching to ascending AC for example). [[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]] is a good example, being based on B/X but with a lot of tweaks.		* "Pseudo-OSR" games DO bring something new to the table, whether by re-balancing classes, introducing new rules, etc. They are still widely compatible with old modules, but it usually requires some conversion (switching to ascending AC for example). [[Lamentations of the Flame Princess]] is a good example, being based on B/X but with a lot of tweaks.
	* Then there's everything else. There's a lot of games out there that try to emulate the feeling of OSR without being retroclones, in the sense that they are not based (or only loosely based) on an existing game. You may hear the term "False OSR", "OSA" (Old School Adjacent), NuSR, etc.		* Then there's everything else. There's a lot of games out there that try to emulate the feeling of OSR without being retroclones, in the sense that they are not based (or only loosely based) on an existing game. You may hear the term "False OSR", "OSA" (Old School Adjacent), NuSR, etc.