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	'''Robotech RPG Tactics''' (commonly referred to as '''RRT''') <s>is</s> was a squad based tactical miniatures game based upon the US cartoon <s>molestation</s> adaptation of the Macross Saga anime series from Japan. Following years of nigh-criminal Kickstarter mismanagement, the publisher lost their license and the game was finally cancelled. A small community of fans is working to keep the rules alive as Dimensional Warfare: Tactical. KidsLogic toys is also creating new models for the game. It never quite got off the ground unfortunately, but we can always [https://youtu.be/3b3lFaF8W84/remember] the possibilities..		'''Robotech RPG Tactics''' (commonly referred to as '''RRT''') <s>is</s> was a squad based tactical miniatures game based upon the US cartoon <s>molestation</s> adaptation of the Macross Saga anime series from Japan. Following years of nigh-criminal Kickstarter mismanagement, the publisher lost their license and the game was finally cancelled. A small community of fans is working to keep the rules alive as Dimensional Warfare: Tactical. KidsLogic toys is also creating new models for the game. It never quite got off the ground unfortunately, but we can always [https://youtu.be/3b3lFaF8W84/ remember] the possibilities..

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	'''Robotech RPG Tactics''' (commonly referred to as '''RRT''') <s>is</s> was a squad based tactical miniatures game based upon the US cartoon <s>molestation</s> adaptation of the Macross Saga anime series from Japan. Following years of nigh-criminal Kickstarter mismanagement, the publisher lost their license and the game was finally cancelled. A small community of fans is working to keep the rules alive as Dimensional Warfare: ~~Tactics~~. KidsLogic toys is also creating new models for the game.		'''Robotech RPG Tactics''' (commonly referred to as '''RRT''') <s>is</s> was a squad based tactical miniatures game based upon the US cartoon <s>molestation</s> adaptation of the Macross Saga anime series from Japan. Following years of nigh-criminal Kickstarter mismanagement, the publisher lost their license and the game was finally cancelled. A small community of fans is working to keep the rules alive as Dimensional Warfare: Tactical. KidsLogic toys is also creating new models for the game. It never quite got off the ground unfortunately, but we can always [https://youtu.be/3b3lFaF8W84/remember] the possibilities..


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	===EARTH BASED===		===EARTH BASED===
	;Robotech Defense Force (RDF)		;Robotech Defense Force(RDF)/UN Spacy
	:{{Main\|Robotech Defense Force}}		:{{Main\|Robotech Defense Force}}
	Robotech Forces that were established and based on Earth to defend against alien aggression after the arrival of Robotechnology. They use a mix of Human technology with tech scavenged from the SDF Macross. The ship crashed with apocalyptic results in the South Pacific many years earlier, starting a war which would unify Humanity against the coming alien threat. Heavy on special characters, with a mix of ground-pounding Destroids, all-environment transforming Valkyries, and space-only naval fighters that never got released.		Robotech Forces that were established and based on Earth to defend against alien aggression after the arrival of Robotechnology. They use a mix of Human technology with tech scavenged from the SDF Macross. The ship crashed with apocalyptic results in the South Pacific many years earlier, starting a war which would unify Humanity against the coming alien threat. Heavy on special characters, with a mix of ground-pounding Destroids, all-environment transforming Valkyries, and space-only naval fighters that never got released.
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	*Carmen Bellaire of Rogue Heroes Studio, the publisher of the upcoming Rifts© Boardgame©, posts in the kickstarter on 2/17/2017 that the RRT backers best play nice with his Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter or he'd burn the RRT. The backers respond in kind with trolling and threats of an organized campaign against the Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter. After so many mean comments Carmen attempted to change the "Rogue" in his company's name to "an". Kevin Siembieda© then posted an update blaming the backers for Carmen's unsuccessful an hero™ attempt.		*Carmen Bellaire of Rogue Heroes Studio, the publisher of the upcoming Rifts© Boardgame©, posts in the kickstarter on 2/17/2017 that the RRT backers best play nice with his Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter or he'd burn the RRT. The backers respond in kind with trolling and threats of an organized campaign against the Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter. After so many mean comments Carmen attempted to change the "Rogue" in his company's name to "an". Kevin Siembieda© then posted an update blaming the backers for Carmen's unsuccessful an hero™ attempt.

	*As of March 2018, due to "reasons" (read: incompetence), Palladium Books has, finally, lost the license for Robotech from Harmony Gold. This means that 1) Palladium fire-saled all their Robotech books and, hilariously, their PDFs. 2)Dropped RRT like a steaming turd. On February 27, 2018, Kevin Siembieda© announced "with sadness and tremendous heartbreak" that Wave 2 would never be delivered, and that he'd very much like everyone to suck his ass [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399]. Meaning that the backers were being shafted out of huge chunks of their pledges BUT it's ok because they offered backers more of the models they already had in exchange! Just pay shipping! On models you already have too many of because the force org chats are stupid! Needless to say Kevin Fucking Siembieda has used this [[Rage]] to ascend to godhood on the cries of a class action lawsuit.		*As of March 2018, due to "reasons" (read: incompetence), Palladium Books has, finally, lost the license for Robotech from Harmony Gold. This means that 1) Palladium fire-saled all their Robotech books and, hilariously, their PDFs. 2)Dropped RRT like a steaming turd. On February 27, 2018, Kevin Siembieda© announced "with sadness and tremendous heartbreak" that Wave 2 would never be delivered, and that he'd very much like everyone to suck his ass [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399]. Meaning that the backers were being shafted out of huge chunks of their pledges BUT it's ok because they offered backers more of the models they already had in exchange! Just pay shipping! On models you already have too many of because the force org chats are stupid! Needless to say Kevin Fucking Siembieda has used this [[Rage]] to ascend to godhood on the cries of a class action lawsuit.

	==A sliver lining==		==A sliver lining==
	* In late 2019, Kidslogic announced they would be supporting the game going forward. They are a Hong Kong injection-resin caster normally known for busts and collectibles. Reviews on the models themselves are generally positive, though the Valkyrie and Zentraedi pod sets are considerably more expensive than the older RRT equivalents and the antenna/finger parts remain fragile as hell.		* In late 2019, Kidslogic announced they would be supporting the game going forward. They are a Hong Kong injection-resin caster normally known for busts and collectibles. Reviews on the models themselves are generally positive, though the Valkyrie and Zentraedi pod sets are considerably more expensive than the older RRT equivalents and the antenna/finger parts remain fragile as hell. You can always use them in BattleTech!
			==Gallery==
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			image:53e084 fec3c31f40f24f768e7c3d17acb42dd2.0.jpg\| Cue dogfighter
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			image:B68mps7CIAAS3 t.jpg\| March of the battlepods.
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	==External links==		==External links==
	*[http://www.palladiumbooks.com/ Palladium Books main site]		*[http://www.palladiumbooks.com/ Palladium Books main site]

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	;Zentraedi		;Zentraedi
	:{{Main\|~~Giant#The_Zentraedi~~}}		:{{Main\|Zentraedi}}
	A militaristic race of alien humanoid giants created through genetic cloning. Males and females are segregated in society, with males functioning as cannon-fodder infantry and high-level command, and females operating elite powered armor commando units. The main force of Zentraedi were eventually defeated by the power of [[Promotions\|Love]] (and J-pop), as well as having their most militant leader [[BattleTech\|beaten to death with his own severed arm]]. In general, Zentraedi use oceans of expendable, re-spawning infantry to shield deadly leaders and commandos, though you will need to keep some officers in reserve to shepherd the respawns back to the front before some ass sneaks into your deployment zone to spawn-camp them. Zentraedi grunts do not generate Command Points, but their officers give you substantial bonus points.		A militaristic race of alien humanoid giants created through genetic cloning. Males and females are segregated in society, with males functioning as cannon-fodder infantry and high-level command, and females operating elite powered armor commando units. The main force of Zentraedi were eventually defeated by the power of [[Promotions\|Love]] (and J-pop), as well as having their most militant leader [[BattleTech\|beaten to death with his own severed arm]]. In general, Zentraedi use oceans of expendable, re-spawning infantry to shield deadly leaders and commandos, though you will need to keep some officers in reserve to shepherd the respawns back to the front before some ass sneaks into your deployment zone to spawn-camp them. Zentraedi grunts do not generate Command Points, but their officers give you substantial bonus points.

	==Kickstarter and other Controversies==		==Kickstarter and other Controversies==

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	*As of March 2018, due to "reasons" (read: incompetence), Palladium Books has, finally, lost the license for Robotech from Harmony Gold. This means that 1) Palladium fire-saled all their Robotech books and, hilariously, their PDFs. 2)Dropped RRT like a steaming turd. On February 27, 2018, Kevin Siembieda© announced "with sadness and tremendous heartbreak" that Wave 2 would never be delivered, and that he'd very much like everyone to suck his ass [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399]. Meaning that the backers were being shafted out of huge chunks of their pledges BUT it's ok because they offered backers more of the models they already had in exchange! Just pay shipping! On models you already have too many of because the force org chats are stupid! Needless to say Kevin Fucking Siembieda has used this [[Rage]] to ascend to godhood on the cries of a class action lawsuit.		*As of March 2018, due to "reasons" (read: incompetence), Palladium Books has, finally, lost the license for Robotech from Harmony Gold. This means that 1) Palladium fire-saled all their Robotech books and, hilariously, their PDFs. 2)Dropped RRT like a steaming turd. On February 27, 2018, Kevin Siembieda© announced "with sadness and tremendous heartbreak" that Wave 2 would never be delivered, and that he'd very much like everyone to suck his ass [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399]. Meaning that the backers were being shafted out of huge chunks of their pledges BUT it's ok because they offered backers more of the models they already had in exchange! Just pay shipping! On models you already have too many of because the force org chats are stupid! Needless to say Kevin Fucking Siembieda has used this [[Rage]] to ascend to godhood on the cries of a class action lawsuit.

			==A sliver lining==
	* In late 2019, Kidslogic announced they would be supporting the game going forward. They are a Hong Kong injection-resin caster normally known for busts and collectibles. Reviews on the models themselves are generally positive, though the Valkyrie and Zentraedi pod sets are considerably more expensive than the older RRT equivalents and the antenna/finger parts remain fragile as hell.		* In late 2019, Kidslogic announced they would be supporting the game going forward. They are a Hong Kong injection-resin caster normally known for busts and collectibles. Reviews on the models themselves are generally positive, though the Valkyrie and Zentraedi pod sets are considerably more expensive than the older RRT equivalents and the antenna/finger parts remain fragile as hell.

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	* After many delays due to this unexpected level of support and the general incompetence of all parties involved ([[Palladium Books]], [[Ninja Division]], [[Harmony Gold]], Chinese manufacturers), (part of) the game finally began shipping to backers in October of 2014, almost a full year after Palladium's original estimated ship date. As a result of the logistical clusterfuck, the rewards were divided into two "Waves". As of February 2017, Wave 2 was ''still'' in preproduction while European and Australian backers were still awaiting delivery of Wave 1.		* After many delays due to this unexpected level of support and the general incompetence of all parties involved ([[Palladium Books]], [[Ninja Division]], [[Harmony Gold]], Chinese manufacturers), (part of) the game finally began shipping to backers in October of 2014, almost a full year after Palladium's original estimated ship date. As a result of the logistical clusterfuck, the rewards were divided into two "Waves". As of February 2017, Wave 2 was ''still'' in preproduction while European and Australian backers were still awaiting delivery of Wave 1.

	*It's estimated that 98% of the backers ~~only decided to pledge because of~~ [[BattleTech]] ~~Unseens~~. '''While this 'fact' is clearly intended for hyperbole, such a definitive claim requires objective data.'''{{fact}} It's worth noting that when Palladium made the exchange offer, the "good" Battletech models (the Artillery Destroid packs) were gone within a few days and nearly all of the other Destroid packs sold out by the end, while there were still hundreds of Zentraedi packs left to liquidate (Miniature Market bought them up, and still had the packs up at fire sale prices as of early 2020).		*It's estimated that 98% of the backers were [[BattleTech]] fans seeing a way to get their hands on new Unseen models. '''While this 'fact' is clearly intended for hyperbole, such a definitive claim requires objective data.'''{{fact}} It's worth noting that when Palladium made the exchange offer, the "good" Battletech models (the Artillery Destroid packs) were gone within a few days and nearly all of the other Destroid packs sold out by the end, while there were still hundreds of Zentraedi packs left to liquidate (Miniature Market bought them up, and still had the packs up at fire sale prices as of early 2020).

	*Uproar from backers over preproduction pics of assembled models with dozens of parts and "massive impossible to fill seams" (particularly on the RDF's Spartan) led to a schism in the fanbase between the unwashed masses who wanted Tactics to be a ready-to-play boardgame and True Wargamers™. And also the True Wargamers®©™ who wanted to be able to put together more than one squad a week. This is now commonly referred to as "spartangate". This uproar would increase when models finally arrived years later. A combination of bad CAD and mold design had left several models with parts that didn't fit into the model (Scout Regult), sprue gates on top of details, extremely flimsy parts, and missing or improperly-mirrored details on multiple models.		*Uproar from backers over preproduction pics of assembled models with dozens of parts and "massive impossible to fill seams" (particularly on the RDF's Spartan) led to a schism in the fanbase between the unwashed masses who wanted Tactics to be a ready-to-play boardgame and True Wargamers™. And also the True Wargamers®©™ who wanted to be able to put together more than one squad a week. This is now commonly referred to as "spartangate". This uproar would increase when models finally arrived years later. A combination of bad CAD and mold design had left several models with parts that didn't fit into the model (Scout Regult), sprue gates on top of details, extremely flimsy parts, and missing or improperly-mirrored details on multiple models.

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	*It's estimated that 98% of the backers only decided to pledge because of [[BattleTech]] Unseens. '''While this 'fact' is clearly intended for hyperbole, such a definitive claim requires objective data.'''{{fact}} It's worth noting that when Palladium made the exchange offer, the "good" Battletech models (the Artillery Destroid packs) were gone within a few days and nearly all of the other Destroid packs sold out by the end, while there were still hundreds of Zentraedi packs left to liquidate (Miniature Market bought them up, and still had the packs up at fire sale prices as of early 2020).		*It's estimated that 98% of the backers only decided to pledge because of [[BattleTech]] Unseens. '''While this 'fact' is clearly intended for hyperbole, such a definitive claim requires objective data.'''{{fact}} It's worth noting that when Palladium made the exchange offer, the "good" Battletech models (the Artillery Destroid packs) were gone within a few days and nearly all of the other Destroid packs sold out by the end, while there were still hundreds of Zentraedi packs left to liquidate (Miniature Market bought them up, and still had the packs up at fire sale prices as of early 2020).

	*Uproar from backers over preproduction pics of assembled models with dozens of parts and "massive impossible to fill seams" (particularly on the RDF's Spartan) led to a schism in the fanbase between the unwashed masses who wanted Tactics to be a ready-to-play boardgame and True Wargamers™. And also the True ~~Wargamers(r)(c)™~~ who wanted to be able to put together more than one squad a week. This is now commonly referred to as "spartangate". This uproar would increase when models finally arrived years later. A combination of bad CAD and mold design had left several models with parts that didn't fit into the model (Scout Regult), sprue gates on top of details, extremely flimsy parts, and missing or improperly-mirrored details on multiple models.		*Uproar from backers over preproduction pics of assembled models with dozens of parts and "massive impossible to fill seams" (particularly on the RDF's Spartan) led to a schism in the fanbase between the unwashed masses who wanted Tactics to be a ready-to-play boardgame and True Wargamers™. And also the True Wargamers®©™ who wanted to be able to put together more than one squad a week. This is now commonly referred to as "spartangate". This uproar would increase when models finally arrived years later. A combination of bad CAD and mold design had left several models with parts that didn't fit into the model (Scout Regult), sprue gates on top of details, extremely flimsy parts, and missing or improperly-mirrored details on multiple models.

	*Rumors of the possibility of box sales being made at GenCon 2014 before backers received their rewards led to anger and talk of legal action. The response from Palladium was to put the matter to a "vote" that was incompetently (and blatantly) rigged. Which garnered even more controversy. In the end, production delays rendered a month of arguments moot. They followed this "vote" up with a lengthy post whining about the difficulty of producing infantry and vehicle models in 1:285 scale, begging to upscale the Invid-era designs to 10mm or 12mm. The poll on the post ''immediately'' shot down the scale shift.		*Rumors of the possibility of box sales being made at GenCon 2014 before backers received their rewards led to anger and talk of legal action. The response from Palladium was to put the matter to a "vote" that was incompetently (and blatantly) rigged. Which garnered even more controversy. In the end, production delays rendered a month of arguments moot. They followed this "vote" up with a lengthy post whining about the difficulty of producing infantry and vehicle models in 1:285 scale, begging to upscale the Invid-era designs to 10mm or 12mm. The poll on the post ''immediately'' shot down the scale shift.

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	*Carmen Bellaire of Rogue Heroes Studio, the publisher of the upcoming Rifts© Boardgame©, posts in the kickstarter on 2/17/2017 that the RRT backers best play nice with his Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter or he'd burn the RRT. The backers respond in kind with trolling and threats of an organized campaign against the Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter. After so many mean comments Carmen attempted to change the "Rogue" in his company's name to "an". Kevin Siembieda© then posted an update blaming the backers for Carmen's unsuccessful an hero™ attempt.		*Carmen Bellaire of Rogue Heroes Studio, the publisher of the upcoming Rifts© Boardgame©, posts in the kickstarter on 2/17/2017 that the RRT backers best play nice with his Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter or he'd burn the RRT. The backers respond in kind with trolling and threats of an organized campaign against the Rifts© Boardgame© kickstarter. After so many mean comments Carmen attempted to change the "Rogue" in his company's name to "an". Kevin Siembieda© then posted an update blaming the backers for Carmen's unsuccessful an hero™ attempt.

	*As of March 2018, due to "reasons" (read: incompetence), Palladium Books has, finally, lost the license for Robotech from Harmony Gold. This means that 1) Palladium fire-saled all their Robotech books and, hilariously, their PDFs. 2)Dropped RRT like a steaming turd. On February 27, 2018, Kevin Siembieda© announced "with sadness and tremendous heartbreak" that Wave 2 would never be delivered, and that he'd very much like everyone to suck his ass [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399]. Meaning that the backers were being shafted out of huge chunks of their pledges BUT it's ok because they offered backers more of the models they already had in exchange! Just pay shipping! On models you already have too many of because the force org chats are stupid! Needless to say Kevin Fucking Siembieda has used this [[Rage]] to ascend to ~~Godhood~~ on the cries of a class action lawsuit.		*As of March 2018, due to "reasons" (read: incompetence), Palladium Books has, finally, lost the license for Robotech from Harmony Gold. This means that 1) Palladium fire-saled all their Robotech books and, hilariously, their PDFs. 2)Dropped RRT like a steaming turd. On February 27, 2018, Kevin Siembieda© announced "with sadness and tremendous heartbreak" that Wave 2 would never be delivered, and that he'd very much like everyone to suck his ass [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/2120399]. Meaning that the backers were being shafted out of huge chunks of their pledges BUT it's ok because they offered backers more of the models they already had in exchange! Just pay shipping! On models you already have too many of because the force org chats are stupid! Needless to say Kevin Fucking Siembieda has used this [[Rage]] to ascend to godhood on the cries of a class action lawsuit.


	* In late 2019, Kidslogic announced they would be supporting the game going forward. They are a Hong Kong injection-resin caster normally known for busts and collectibles. Reviews on the models themselves are generally positive, though the Valkyrie and Zentraedi pod sets are considerably more expensive than the older RRT equivalents and the antenna/finger parts remain fragile as ~~Hell~~.		* In late 2019, Kidslogic announced they would be supporting the game going forward. They are a Hong Kong injection-resin caster normally known for busts and collectibles. Reviews on the models themselves are generally positive, though the Valkyrie and Zentraedi pod sets are considerably more expensive than the older RRT equivalents and the antenna/finger parts remain fragile as hell.

	==External links==		==External links==