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165.23.18.180: Should be canon, but is only a headcanon.

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Should be canon, but is only a headcanon.

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	[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon~~; fuck that~~, ~~it’s canon, and it’s aDornable!~~) Dornstache.]]		[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon, despite the fanbase almost unanimously wanting it to be) Dornstache.]]
	{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}		{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}
	{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}		{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}

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	The one person who could truly be considered his friend was the remembrancer Solomon Voss, who was one of the only people who could elicit a vague humour response from the Primarch (this came back to bite Dorn when Horus sent back a mentally broken Voss to make Dorn depressed when the Heresy started).		The one person who could truly be considered his friend was the remembrancer Solomon Voss, who was one of the only people who could elicit a vague humour response from the Primarch (this came back to bite Dorn when Horus sent back a mentally broken Voss to make Dorn depressed when the Heresy started).

	He and Leman Russ are part of an exclusive club of Primarchs with tanks named after them.		He and Leman Russ are part of an exclusive club of Primarchs with tanks named after them. (His looks better, despite [[FAIL\|GW's bullshit]])

	==Early Life==		==Early Life==

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	[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon; fuck that, it’s canon, and it’s aDornable!) ~~Moustache~~.]]		[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon; fuck that, it’s canon, and it’s aDornable!) Dornstache.]]
	{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}		{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}
	{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}		{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}

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	But just to add fuel to the fire, in The Hunt For Vulkan in [[The Beast\|The Beast Arises]], just before Vulkan [[what\|jumps out a high flying Thunderhawk and beats gravity weapons and void shields with nothing but his manliness]] (and a hammer), he says this to [[Slaughter Koorland]]: "You fight well, Son of Dorn. You honour his name. I will tell him this." It's worth noting that throughout that book Vulkan is a little...off. But, assuming Vulkan isn't just confused, that could mean that Dorn is still alive and kicking, and that he has made contact with his fellow Primarchs, then we know that the Primarchs know where each other are. Of course it could also have been Vulkan's way of saying he expected to die on that mission and would speak to his dead brothers in the afterlife. Does this mean that because a [[Roboute Guilliman\|certain spiritual liege]] has returned that all Primarchs will come back and kick ass?		But just to add fuel to the fire, in The Hunt For Vulkan in [[The Beast\|The Beast Arises]], just before Vulkan [[what\|jumps out a high flying Thunderhawk and beats gravity weapons and void shields with nothing but his manliness]] (and a hammer), he says this to [[Slaughter Koorland]]: "You fight well, Son of Dorn. You honour his name. I will tell him this." It's worth noting that throughout that book Vulkan is a little...off. But, assuming Vulkan isn't just confused, that could mean that Dorn is still alive and kicking, and that he has made contact with his fellow Primarchs, then we know that the Primarchs know where each other are. Of course it could also have been Vulkan's way of saying he expected to die on that mission and would speak to his dead brothers in the afterlife. Does this mean that because a [[Roboute Guilliman\|certain spiritual liege]] has returned that all Primarchs will come back and kick ass?

	Also, we have another "never found the corpse" case, which is the literal textbook example of a writer hinting that a character is just fine and is gunna come back into the story later. [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device\|What really happened was his Magic Pain Glove told him to hide in the Imperial Palace, disguised as a Centurion until the time was right, or someone mentions the Space Wolves around Magnus.]]		Also, we have another "never found the corpse" case, which is the literal textbook example of a writer hinting that a character is just fine and is gunna come back into the story later. [[If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device\|What really happened was his Magic Pain Glove told him to hide in the Imperial Palace, disguised as a Centurion until the time was right, or someone mentions the Space Wolves around Magnus.]]

	(There is written evidence in the Horus Heresy Primarchs novel 'Konrad Curze' that Dorn is dead, and was ripped to pieces. Pg 34, however this is not to be trusted since the skeleton recovered from the incident has been revealed to be fake...meaning that it was likely a member of the Alpha Legion in disguise)		(There is written evidence in the Horus Heresy Primarchs novel 'Konrad Curze' that Dorn is dead, and was ripped to pieces. Pg 34, however this is not to be trusted since the skeleton recovered from the incident has been revealed to be fake...meaning that it was likely a member of the Alpha Legion in disguise)

			And finally of any of the loyalist primarchs to be missing in action and not confirmed Dead: Dorn is the one for who coming back as an Uberdreadnought would be fitting for the character, which would explain the missing hand. He took massive grievous injury, but Dreadnoughts are just the sort thing needed to let a marine fight on even in the face of that, much less a Primarch.

	==Who is Dorn?==		==Who is Dorn?==

1d4chan>Rogalydondon: /* Horus Heresy */

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Horus Heresy

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	Matters were not helped by his disagreements with [[Malcador the Sigillite]] over the latter's methods of protecting Terra, which on more than one occasion led to direct conflicts between the forces they commanded. (To give you an idea, Big.E in person had to come in and make everyone fall in line when Dorn and Malcador got in [[skub\|a bit of a pickle]] about the existence and use of the [[Officio Assassinorum]].)		Matters were not helped by his disagreements with [[Malcador the Sigillite]] over the latter's methods of protecting Terra, which on more than one occasion led to direct conflicts between the forces they commanded. (To give you an idea, Big.E in person had to come in and make everyone fall in line when Dorn and Malcador got in [[skub\|a bit of a pickle]] about the existence and use of the [[Officio Assassinorum]].)

	It's also important to realize that Praetorian wasn't just a pretty title. During the Heresy, Dorn was in overall command of the Primarchs and the loyal Legions, at least in theory. In practice Russ, Corax, Sanguinius (when he finally arrived) and ~~Jagathai~~ Khan (only grudgingly) were the only ones who did what he said. The others were too busy [[Vulkan\|being missing]] or [[Ferrus Manus\|dead]], [[Roboute Guilliman\|building their own empires]], or [[Lion El'Jonson\|pursuing vendettas]]. Dorn got the Fists of the Retribution Fleet and the White Scars back to Terra while directing the Space Wolves and Raven Guard to harass the Traitors on their way to the Throneworld and had tactical authority during the Siege of Terra. His decision making about the flow of resources, when to hold fast, and when to counterattack allowed the Palace to hold for as long as it did.		It's also important to realize that Praetorian wasn't just a pretty title. During the Heresy, Dorn was in overall command of the Primarchs and the loyal Legions, at least in theory. In practice Russ, Corax, Sanguinius (when he finally arrived) and Jaghatai Khan (only grudgingly) were the only ones who did what he said. The others were too busy [[Vulkan\|being missing]] or [[Ferrus Manus\|dead]], [[Roboute Guilliman\|building their own empires]], or [[Lion El'Jonson\|pursuing vendettas]]. Dorn got the Fists of the Retribution Fleet and the White Scars back to Terra while directing the Space Wolves and Raven Guard to harass the Traitors on their way to the Throneworld and had tactical authority during the Siege of Terra. His decision making about the flow of resources, when to hold fast, and when to counterattack allowed the Palace to hold for as long as it did.

	Though all of the stress did catch up to him. When Vulkan finally made it to Terra, Dorn ~~confides~~ in him that ~~this is all too much~~ and that he is having difficulties keeping it together. Vulkan, being the great bro that he is, gave him a hug!		Though all of the stress did catch up to him. When Vulkan finally made it to Terra, Dorn confided in him that the pressure of fortifying Terra and preparing for the inevitable invasion was grinding him down and that he was having difficulties keeping it together. Vulkan, being the great bro that he is, gave him a hug!

	During the Siege of Terra, Dorn was under a lot of stress, like a metric ~~fuck ton~~. During ~~The~~ Solar War, he had to fight the ~~Daemon~~ Samus, while ~~also having~~ the Phalanx crippled and boarded by ~~Daemons~~ as he fought mostly alone, protecting a human ~~Admiral~~ and unlocking his Librarians. He also had to try and keep Jaghatai in the Palace. But when ~~The~~ Khan sallied out, he got real pissed off, but was thankful for the information which the Khan had brought them. He also bought time for forces to flee the Lion's Gate ~~Space Port,~~ whilst trolling Perturabo. His relationship with [[Sigismund]] got better over time. During the battle ~~over~~ the Saturnine Wall, they both beat up Fulgrim and a bunch of Fulgrim's ~~Champions~~, including Eidolon. Dorn also had to save Sigismund before that, though it gave him an excuse to make an epic entrance. At that point, both Sigismund and Dorn realized the nightmare that was to come had just begun, and Dorn quietly ordered Sigismund to unleash himself for the line of desperation as opposed to pragmatism was just crossed, which he did with gusto.		During the Siege of Terra, Dorn was under a lot of stress, like several metric fucktonnes. During the Solar War, he had to fight the daemon Samus while the ''Phalanx'' was crippled and being boarded by more daemons as he fought mostly alone, protecting a human admiral and unlocking his Librarians. He also had to try and keep Jaghatai in the Palace. But when the Khan sallied out, he got real pissed off, but was thankful for the information which the Khan had brought them. He also bought time for forces to flee the Lion's Gate whilst trolling Perturabo. His relationship with [[Sigismund]] got better over time. During the battle at the Saturnine Wall, they both beat up Fulgrim and a bunch of Fulgrim's champions, including Eidolon. Dorn also had to save Sigismund before that, though it gave him an excuse to make an epic entrance. At that point, both Sigismund and Dorn realized the nightmare that was to come had just begun, and Dorn quietly ordered Sigismund to unleash himself, for the line of desperation as opposed to pragmatism was just crossed, which he did with gusto.

	~~During~~ the ~~Siege of Terra~~, Rogal went with the Emprah and [[Sanguinius]] to Horus's battle barge to face the traitor. ~~When~~ the Emprah totally fucked up Horus, Rogal [[Creed\|"seemingly" came out of nowhere]] and saved his ass, then got all pissy about it because he was only a few seconds short, and found Sanguinius dead and the Emprah dying. Surprisingly, he did not turn into an [[Angry Marine]] (that came a bit later), but still couldn't let go of his emotions, which Corax purportedly found painfully ironic. Once Guilliman arrived, Dorn transferred power to him in order to go all Black Templar on the collective asses of the Traitor Legions. And when we say Black Templar, we mean it. Dorn and the Fists pursued the Traitors with a fury that even the Angry Marines could only stare at in awe, until nothing remained of the Traitor forces outside the [[Eye of Terror]].		When Horus dropped the ''Vengeful Spirit'''s shields, Rogal went with the Emprah and [[Sanguinius]] to Horus's battle barge to face the traitor, only for all of them to be scattered by Warp fuckery. Dorn found himself lost and alone in a desert for what felt like centuries, tempted by whispers from Khorne while his identity slowly eroded away. He managed to break out somehow, and when the Emprah totally fucked up Horus, Rogal [[Creed\|"seemingly" came out of nowhere]] and saved his ass, then got all pissy about it because he was only a few seconds short, and found Sanguinius dead and the Emprah dying. Surprisingly, he did not turn into an [[Angry Marine]] (that came a bit later), but still couldn't let go of his emotions, which Corax purportedly found painfully ironic. Once Guilliman arrived, Dorn transferred power to him in order to go all Black Templar on the collective asses of the Traitor Legions. And when we say Black Templar, we mean it. Dorn and the Fists pursued the Traitors with a fury that even the Angry Marines could only stare at in awe, until nothing remained of the Traitor forces outside the [[Eye of Terror]].

	==Post-Heresy==		==Post-Heresy==

216.15.33.237: /* 30k Rogal Dorn Vs other Primarchs: Heresy 2.0 */

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30k Rogal Dorn Vs other Primarchs: Heresy 2.0

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	'''Dorn vs. Ferrus Manus:'''		'''Dorn vs. Ferrus Manus:'''
	:Rogal Dorn with Storm’s Teeth ''(Hits on 3+)'': 4 hits, 3.89 wounds, '''1.30 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.96 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		*Rogal Dorn with Storm’s Teeth ''(Hits on 3+)'': 4 hits, 3.89 wounds, '''1.30 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 0.96 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	::Reaping Blow (+2 attacks): 5.33 hits, 4.74 wounds, '''1.58 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.25 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		**Reaping Blow (+2 attacks): 5.33 hits, 4.74 wounds, '''1.58 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.25 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.
	:Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.22 hits, 1.11 wounds, '''1.67 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.33 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.		*Ferrus Manus with Forgebreaker ''(Hits on MC 5+)'': 2.56 hits, 1.28 wounds, + 0.16 servo-arm wounds, '''2.01 unsaved wounds,''' which is reduced to 1.68 at the end of the turn thanks to IWND.

	:~~Dorn~~ wins. With ~~reaping blow, he manages to kill Ferrus Manus in 5 turns~~, ~~but~~ it's ~~close~~.		:Ferrus Manus wins.
			::With Reaping Blow, it's a tie.

	'''Dorn vs. Angron:'''		'''Dorn vs. Angron:'''

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Horus Heresy

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	==Horus Heresy==		==Horus Heresy==
	{{Topquote\|My order to you all is simple, yet heed it well, and exert yourselves to see it done. They are coming. Kill them all.\|~~The~~ man ~~himself~~ at the beginning of the Siege of Terra}}		{{Topquote\|My order to you all is simple, yet heed it well, and exert yourselves to see it done. They are coming. Kill them all.\|Rogal Dorn, a man of few words, at the beginning of the Siege of Terra}}

	After Horus was made Warmaster, Dorn and his Legion were ordered to head back to Terra and fortify the shit out of the place while the Emprah went about his Big Project. Before taking off, Dorn made some efforts to keep the other Primarchs on side and helped engineer Garviel Loken's appointment to the Mournival. He reasoned that Horus needed a "naysmith" or two to stop the position going to his head. Sadly this wasn't quite enough.		After Horus was made Warmaster, Dorn and his Legion were ordered to head back to Terra and fortify the shit out of the place while the Emprah went about his Big Project. Before taking off, Dorn made some efforts to keep the other Primarchs on side and helped engineer Garviel Loken's appointment to the Mournival. He reasoned that Horus needed a "naysmith" or two to stop the position going to his head. Sadly this wasn't quite enough.

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	[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon~~; fuck that~~, ~~it’s canon, and it’s aDornable!~~) Dornstache.]]		[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon, despite the fanbase almost unanimously wanting it to be) Dornstache.]]
	{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}		{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}
	{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}		{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}

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	[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon; fuck that, it’s canon, and it’s aDornable!) ~~Moustache~~.]]		[[File:Rogal_Dorn_Moustache.jpg\|500px\|thumb\|right\|Rogal Dorn, being his regular badass self. Now with a (sadly non-canon; fuck that, it’s canon, and it’s aDornable!) Dornstache.]]
	{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}		{{Topquote\|It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit.\|Noël Coward, ''Blithe Spirit''}}
	{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}		{{Topquote\|If we are not ashamed to think it, we should not be ashamed to say it.\|Marcus Tullius Cicero}}