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	==Overview==		==Overview==
	Like its namesake it seems to specialize in siege work, both breaking and anchoring defensive lines with its wide variety of guns. Its main turret can carry either ''[[Twin-Linked\|two]]'' [[Battle_Cannon\|Battle Cannons]] or an '''[[Oppressor Cannon]]''', an anti-armour gun that can supposedly one-shot anything up to and including a [[Chaos Knight]]. It can also carry a hull-mounted [[Castigator Gatling Cannon]] or [[Pulveriser Cannon]], a baby version of the [[Demolisher_Cannon\|Demolisher cannon]], along with the usual array of extra weapons: hull-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]]s or [[Meltagun]]s, sponson-mounted [[Heavy Bolter]]s or [[Multi-Melta]]s, and last of all a pintle-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]] in case you feel like reenacting the last twenty minutes of ''Fury'' with [[Your Dudes]]. Some of them have side sponsons, some don't. The previews of its datasheet reveal that it's got a little more Toughness and four more Wounds than the Leman Russ, all the better for keeping it going in a firefight.		Like its namesake it seems to specialize in siege work, both breaking and anchoring defensive lines with its wide variety of guns. Its main turret can carry either ''[[Twin-Linked\|two]]'' [[Battle_Cannon\|Battle Cannons]] or an '''[[Oppressor Cannon]]''', an anti-armour gun that can supposedly one-shot anything up to and including a [[Chaos Knight]]. It can also carry a hull-mounted [[Castigator Gatling Cannon]] or [[Pulveriser Cannon]], a baby version of the [[Demolisher_Cannon\|Demolisher cannon]], along with the usual array of extra weapons: hull-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]]s or [[Meltagun]]s, sponson-mounted [[Heavy Bolter]]s or [[Multi-Melta]]s, and last of all a pintle-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]] in case you feel like reenacting the last twenty minutes of ''Fury'' with [[Your Dudes]]. Some of them have side sponsons, some don't. The previews of its datasheet reveal that it's got a little more Toughness and four more Wounds than the Leman Russ, all the better for keeping it going in a firefight.

	It's larger than a [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] but smaller than a [[Baneblade]], so we're in [[Malcador Heavy Tank]] [[Kill Tanks\|territory]]. Probably meant to be used as a budget Lord of War.		It's larger than a [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] but smaller than a [[Baneblade]], so we're in [[Malcador Heavy Tank]] [[Kill Tanks\|territory]]. Probably meant to be used as a budget Lord of War.

107.115.243.6: /* Model Shenanigans AKA How to Clown a New Badass Tank in One Easy Step */

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Model Shenanigans AKA How to Clown a New Badass Tank in One Easy Step

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	Just to give you some context. Imagine paying $90 USD (that's about 72 British pounds) for a new model [[Fail\|that doesn't even have a fucking bottom.]] Questions immediately spread like wildfire. "Why did GW remove the undercarriage!?", "Did GW forget about the undercarriage?", "Surely it must have been a production issue and the undercarriage went missing?", "Nay, this is intentional, GW just wants to cut plastic cost and not use an undercarriage model!". Whatever the case, [[/tg/]] has already made a metric shit-tonne of [[memes]] over this predicament ranging from [[lulz\|the Imperium having regressed to using Flintstones-level of propulsion]], [[Just As Planned\|to the tank being immune to anti-tank mines]] [[/d/\|to jokes on modellers 'filling in Rogal Dorn's hole'.]]		Just to give you some context. Imagine paying $90 USD (that's about 72 British pounds) for a new model [[Fail\|that doesn't even have a fucking bottom.]] Questions immediately spread like wildfire. "Why did GW remove the undercarriage!?", "Did GW forget about the undercarriage?", "Surely it must have been a production issue and the undercarriage went missing?", "Nay, this is intentional, GW just wants to cut plastic cost and not use an undercarriage model!". Whatever the case, [[/tg/]] has already made a metric shit-tonne of [[memes]] over this predicament ranging from [[lulz\|the Imperium having regressed to using Flintstones-level of propulsion]], [[Just As Planned\|to the tank being immune to anti-tank mines]] [[/d/\|to jokes on modellers 'filling in Rogal Dorn's hole'.]]

	All [[memes]] aside, it's likely the design team at GW (the idiots who brought us the [[FAIL\|Desolation Squad]] and the [[Skorpius_Hover_Tank\|Skorpius]], which has the [[lulz\|same problem]]) wanted to put more [[DAKKA\|weapons]] and stowage on the sprues, and thought removing a part of the tank nobody would see to make room was a [[FAIL\|good idea]], forgetting that they're dealing with [[neckbeard\|the 40K community]]		All [[memes]] aside, it's likely the design team at GW (the idiots who brought us the [[FAIL\|Desolation Squad]] and the [[Skorpius_Hover_Tank\|Skorpius]], which has the [[lulz\|same problem]] but nobody complained about it then because it wasn't the Imperial Guard) wanted to put more [[DAKKA\|weapons]] and stowage on the sprues, and thought removing a part of the tank nobody would see to make room was a [[FAIL\|good idea]], forgetting that they're dealing with [[neckbeard\|the 40K community]]

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	The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. Its in-universe provenance is as yet unknown.		The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. Its in-universe provenance is as yet unknown.

	It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (~~alledged~~) cost-cutting.		It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (alleged) cost-cutting.

	<s>[[Slaanesh\|Or maybe the exposed hole was because this was originally the Fulgrim Battle Tank]]?</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|HERESY!}}		<s>[[Slaanesh\|Or maybe the exposed hole was because this was originally the Fulgrim Battle Tank]]?</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|HERESY!}}
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	==Inspiration==		==Inspiration==

	The Rogal Dorn is a direct copy of the [[T14 Heavy Tank\|T14]], with tracks and other bits from the [[Churchill]] and [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG/800px-ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG ARL-44] to make it more 40k. The design of its turret is inspired by the [[M26 Pershing\|Pershing]], while its upper-glacis also takes cues from the experimental [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AC_E1(AWM_P03498.010).jpg AC-IV Sentinel], down to the position of the hull gun. Even [https://i0.wp.com/www.destinationsjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ewpvvyajjhbz.jpg?w=550&ssl=1 the twin-cannons of the battle cannon] loadout is lifted from the Sentinel, though in the Sentinel's case they just wanted to make sure the chassis could handle the stress of high-caliber ammunition. It also looks more like a proper tank in scale than the Russ. The Leman Russ has always had a notably tiny turret (just ~~note~~ the size of the commander's hatch ~~compared~~ to the overall size of the turret), whereas this thing looks like you could have an actual crew in there.		The Rogal Dorn is a direct copy of the [[T14 Heavy Tank\|T14]], with tracks and other bits from the [[Churchill]] and [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG/800px-ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG ARL-44] to make it more 40k. The design of its turret is inspired by the [[M26 Pershing\|Pershing]], while its upper glacis also takes cues from the experimental [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AC_E1(AWM_P03498.010).jpg AC-IV Sentinel], down to the position of the hull gun. Even [https://i0.wp.com/www.destinationsjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ewpvvyajjhbz.jpg?w=550&ssl=1 the twin cannons of the battle cannon] loadout is lifted from the Sentinel, though in the Sentinel's case they just wanted to make sure the chassis could handle the stress of high-caliber ammunition. It also looks more like a proper tank in scale than the Russ. The Leman Russ has always had a notably tiny turret (just compare the size of the commander's hatch to the overall size of the turret), whereas this thing looks like you could have an actual crew in there.

	Fun history, the unfortunate turret gunner that has to stand on a platform behind the turret to man the heavy stubber probably comes from the factory-mounting of the M2 Browning machine gun on an [[M4 Sherman]] forcing its gunner to stand on top of the tank behind its turret. In ''this'' case, it was due to an pre-war concept (which was shared by the British, because it came from how WW1 tanks had been used) in that infantry would advance behind the tanks, using them as a big mobile wall of cover. Unsurprisingly, there was a worry about the tank needing to avoid running over the friendly infantry, so it was assumed that the leader of the squad/platoon would ride on the back of the tank, still covered by the turret and able to talk to the tank commander via the cupola. In the case of the US, they felt they'd take advantage of this assumption by bolting a Browning to the turret for the infantry guy to [[Dakka\|play with]] if he wanted to.		Fun history, the unfortunate turret gunner that has to stand on a platform behind the turret to man the heavy stubber probably comes from the factory-mounting of the M2 Browning machine gun on an [[M4 Sherman]] forcing its gunner to stand on top of the tank behind its turret. In ''this'' case, it was due to an pre-war concept (which was shared by the British, because it came from how WW1 tanks had been used) in that infantry would advance behind the tanks, using them as a big mobile wall of cover. Unsurprisingly, there was a worry about the tank needing to avoid running over the friendly infantry, so it was assumed that the leader of the squad/platoon would ride on the back of the tank, still covered by the turret and able to talk to the tank commander via the cupola. In the case of the US, they felt they'd take advantage of this assumption by bolting a Browning to the turret for the infantry guy to [[Dakka\|play with]] if he wanted to.

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Overview

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	Like its namesake it seems to specialize in siege work, both breaking and anchoring defensive lines with its wide variety of guns. Its main turret can carry either ''[[Twin-Linked\|two]]'' [[Battle_Cannon\|Battle Cannons]] or an '''[[Oppressor Cannon]]''', an anti-armour gun that can supposedly one-shot anything up to and including a [[Chaos Knight]]. It can also carry a hull-mounted [[Castigator Gatling Cannon]] or [[Pulveriser Cannon]], a baby version of the [[Demolisher_Cannon\|Demolisher cannon]], along with the usual array of extra weapons: hull-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]]s or [[Meltagun]]s, sponson-mounted [[Heavy Bolter]]s or [[Multi-Melta]]s, and last of all a pintle-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]] in case you feel like reenacting the last twenty minutes of ''Fury'' with [[Your Dudes]]. Some of them have side sponsons, some don't. The previews of its datasheet reveal that it's got a little more Toughness and four more Wounds than the Leman Russ, all the better for keeping it going in a firefight.		Like its namesake it seems to specialize in siege work, both breaking and anchoring defensive lines with its wide variety of guns. Its main turret can carry either ''[[Twin-Linked\|two]]'' [[Battle_Cannon\|Battle Cannons]] or an '''[[Oppressor Cannon]]''', an anti-armour gun that can supposedly one-shot anything up to and including a [[Chaos Knight]]. It can also carry a hull-mounted [[Castigator Gatling Cannon]] or [[Pulveriser Cannon]], a baby version of the [[Demolisher_Cannon\|Demolisher cannon]], along with the usual array of extra weapons: hull-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]]s or [[Meltagun]]s, sponson-mounted [[Heavy Bolter]]s or [[Multi-Melta]]s, and last of all a pintle-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]] in case you feel like reenacting the last twenty minutes of ''Fury'' with [[Your Dudes]]. Some of them have side sponsons, some don't. The previews of its datasheet reveal that it's got a little more Toughness and four more Wounds than the Leman Russ, all the better for keeping it going in a firefight.

	It's larger than a [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] but smaller ~~then~~ a [[Baneblade]], so we're in [[Malcador Heavy Tank]] [[Kill Tanks\|territory]]. Probably meant to be used as a budget Lord of War.		It's larger than a [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] but smaller than a [[Baneblade]], so we're in [[Malcador Heavy Tank]] [[Kill Tanks\|territory]]. Probably meant to be used as a budget Lord of War.

	==Inspiration==		==Inspiration==

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	{{topquote\|But mine doesn't have a fucking hole in it.\|The VIth Legion's Liege clapping back using [[FAIL\|model design idiocy]].}}		{{topquote\|But mine doesn't have a fucking hole in it.\|The VIth Legion's Liege clapping back using [[FAIL\|model design idiocy]].}}

	The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. ~~It's~~ in universe provenance is as yet unknown.		The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. Its in-universe provenance is as yet unknown.

	It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (alledged) cost-cutting.		It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (alledged) cost-cutting.

1d4chan>RotationAxis: /* Model Shenanigans AKA How to Clown a New Badass Tank in One Easy Step */

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Model Shenanigans AKA How to Clown a New Badass Tank in One Easy Step

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	Just to give you some context. Imagine paying $90 USD (that's about 72 British pounds) for a new model [[Fail\|that doesn't even have a fucking bottom.]] Questions immediately spread like wildfire. "Why did GW remove the undercarriage!?", "Did GW forget about the undercarriage?", "Surely it must have been a production issue and the undercarriage went missing?", "Nay, this is intentional, GW just wants to cut plastic cost and not use an undercarriage model!". Whatever the case, [[/tg/]] has already made a metric shit-tonne of [[memes]] over this predicament ranging from [[lulz\|the Imperium having regressed to using Flintstones-level of propulsion]], [[Just As Planned\|to the tank being immune to anti-tank mines]] [[/d/\|to jokes on modellers 'filling in Rogal Dorn's hole'.]]		Just to give you some context. Imagine paying $90 USD (that's about 72 British pounds) for a new model [[Fail\|that doesn't even have a fucking bottom.]] Questions immediately spread like wildfire. "Why did GW remove the undercarriage!?", "Did GW forget about the undercarriage?", "Surely it must have been a production issue and the undercarriage went missing?", "Nay, this is intentional, GW just wants to cut plastic cost and not use an undercarriage model!". Whatever the case, [[/tg/]] has already made a metric shit-tonne of [[memes]] over this predicament ranging from [[lulz\|the Imperium having regressed to using Flintstones-level of propulsion]], [[Just As Planned\|to the tank being immune to anti-tank mines]] [[/d/\|to jokes on modellers 'filling in Rogal Dorn's hole'.]]

			All [[memes]] aside, it's likely the design team at GW (the idiots who brought us the [[FAIL\|Desolation Squad]] and the [[Skorpius_Hover_Tank\|Skorpius]], which has the [[lulz\|same problem]]) wanted to put more [[DAKKA\|weapons]] and stowage on the sprues, and thought removing a part of the tank nobody would see to make room was a [[FAIL\|good idea]], forgetting that they're dealing with [[neckbeard\|the 40K community]]

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Gallery

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	Rogal Dorn Battle Tank1.jpg\|Armed with big FUCK OFF Oppressor Cannon.		Rogal Dorn Battle Tank1.jpg\|Armed with big FUCK OFF Oppressor Cannon.
	Dorn_Tank_Top.PNG\|Top of the tank.		Dorn_Tank_Top.PNG\|Top of the tank.
	Imperial Guard Tanks Comparaison.jpg\|Comparison to a Leman Russ and the Baneblade.		Imperial Guard Tanks Comparaison.jpg\|Comparison to a Leman Russ and the Baneblade. And a Guardsman for scale.
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1d4chan>Derpysaurus: Completely not needed as Overview is basically the lore segment.

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Completely not needed as Overview is basically the lore segment.

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	<s>[[Slaanesh\|Or maybe the exposed hole was because this was originally the Fulgrim Battle Tank]]?</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|HERESY!}}		<s>[[Slaanesh\|Or maybe the exposed hole was because this was originally the Fulgrim Battle Tank]]?</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|HERESY!}}

	~~==Lore==~~
	~~Not much in universe info yet, stay tuned.~~
	==Overview==		==Overview==
	Like its namesake it seems to specialize in siege work, both breaking and anchoring defensive lines with its wide variety of guns. Its main turret can carry either ''[[Twin-Linked\|two]]'' [[Battle_Cannon\|Battle Cannons]] or an '''[[Oppressor Cannon]]''', an anti-armour gun that can supposedly one-shot anything up to and including a [[Chaos Knight]]. It can also carry a hull-mounted [[Castigator Gatling Cannon]] or [[Pulveriser Cannon]], a baby version of the [[Demolisher_Cannon\|Demolisher cannon]], along with the usual array of extra weapons: hull-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]]s or [[Meltagun]]s, sponson-mounted [[Heavy Bolter]]s or [[Multi-Melta]]s, and last of all a pintle-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]] in case you feel like reenacting the last twenty minutes of ''Fury'' with [[Your Dudes]]. Some of them have side sponsons, some don't. The previews of its datasheet reveal that it's got a little more Toughness and four more Wounds than the Leman Russ, all the better for keeping it going in a firefight.		Like its namesake it seems to specialize in siege work, both breaking and anchoring defensive lines with its wide variety of guns. Its main turret can carry either ''[[Twin-Linked\|two]]'' [[Battle_Cannon\|Battle Cannons]] or an '''[[Oppressor Cannon]]''', an anti-armour gun that can supposedly one-shot anything up to and including a [[Chaos Knight]]. It can also carry a hull-mounted [[Castigator Gatling Cannon]] or [[Pulveriser Cannon]], a baby version of the [[Demolisher_Cannon\|Demolisher cannon]], along with the usual array of extra weapons: hull-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]]s or [[Meltagun]]s, sponson-mounted [[Heavy Bolter]]s or [[Multi-Melta]]s, and last of all a pintle-mounted [[Heavy Stubber]] in case you feel like reenacting the last twenty minutes of ''Fury'' with [[Your Dudes]]. Some of them have side sponsons, some don't. The previews of its datasheet reveal that it's got a little more Toughness and four more Wounds than the Leman Russ, all the better for keeping it going in a firefight.

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	The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. Its in-universe provenance is as yet unknown.		The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. Its in-universe provenance is as yet unknown.

	It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (~~alledged~~) cost-cutting.		It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (alleged) cost-cutting.

	<s>[[Slaanesh\|Or maybe the exposed hole was because this was originally the Fulgrim Battle Tank]]?</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|HERESY!}}		<s>[[Slaanesh\|Or maybe the exposed hole was because this was originally the Fulgrim Battle Tank]]?</s> {{BLAM}} {{BLAM\|HERESY!}}
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	==Inspiration==		==Inspiration==

	The Rogal Dorn is a direct copy of the [[T14 Heavy Tank\|T14]], with tracks and other bits from the [[Churchill]] and [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG/800px-ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG ARL-44] to make it more 40k. The design of its turret is inspired by the [[M26 Pershing\|Pershing]], while its upper-glacis also takes cues from the experimental [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AC_E1(AWM_P03498.010).jpg AC-IV Sentinel], down to the position of the hull gun. Even [https://i0.wp.com/www.destinationsjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ewpvvyajjhbz.jpg?w=550&ssl=1 the twin-cannons of the battle cannon] loadout is lifted from the Sentinel, though in the Sentinel's case they just wanted to make sure the chassis could handle the stress of high-caliber ammunition. It also looks more like a proper tank in scale than the Russ. The Leman Russ has always had a notably tiny turret (just ~~note~~ the size of the commander's hatch ~~compared~~ to the overall size of the turret), whereas this thing looks like you could have an actual crew in there.		The Rogal Dorn is a direct copy of the [[T14 Heavy Tank\|T14]], with tracks and other bits from the [[Churchill]] and [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG/800px-ARL-44_at_Mourmelon_le_Grand.JPG ARL-44] to make it more 40k. The design of its turret is inspired by the [[M26 Pershing\|Pershing]], while its upper glacis also takes cues from the experimental [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AC_E1(AWM_P03498.010).jpg AC-IV Sentinel], down to the position of the hull gun. Even [https://i0.wp.com/www.destinationsjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/ewpvvyajjhbz.jpg?w=550&ssl=1 the twin cannons of the battle cannon] loadout is lifted from the Sentinel, though in the Sentinel's case they just wanted to make sure the chassis could handle the stress of high-caliber ammunition. It also looks more like a proper tank in scale than the Russ. The Leman Russ has always had a notably tiny turret (just compare the size of the commander's hatch to the overall size of the turret), whereas this thing looks like you could have an actual crew in there.

	Fun history, the unfortunate turret gunner that has to stand on a platform behind the turret to man the heavy stubber probably comes from the factory-mounting of the M2 Browning machine gun on an [[M4 Sherman]] forcing its gunner to stand on top of the tank behind its turret. In ''this'' case, it was due to an pre-war concept (which was shared by the British, because it came from how WW1 tanks had been used) in that infantry would advance behind the tanks, using them as a big mobile wall of cover. Unsurprisingly, there was a worry about the tank needing to avoid running over the friendly infantry, so it was assumed that the leader of the squad/platoon would ride on the back of the tank, still covered by the turret and able to talk to the tank commander via the cupola. In the case of the US, they felt they'd take advantage of this assumption by bolting a Browning to the turret for the infantry guy to [[Dakka\|play with]] if he wanted to.		Fun history, the unfortunate turret gunner that has to stand on a platform behind the turret to man the heavy stubber probably comes from the factory-mounting of the M2 Browning machine gun on an [[M4 Sherman]] forcing its gunner to stand on top of the tank behind its turret. In ''this'' case, it was due to an pre-war concept (which was shared by the British, because it came from how WW1 tanks had been used) in that infantry would advance behind the tanks, using them as a big mobile wall of cover. Unsurprisingly, there was a worry about the tank needing to avoid running over the friendly infantry, so it was assumed that the leader of the squad/platoon would ride on the back of the tank, still covered by the turret and able to talk to the tank commander via the cupola. In the case of the US, they felt they'd take advantage of this assumption by bolting a Browning to the turret for the infantry guy to [[Dakka\|play with]] if he wanted to.

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	{{topquote\|But mine doesn't have a fucking hole in it.\|The VIth Legion's Liege clapping back using [[FAIL\|model design idiocy]].}}		{{topquote\|But mine doesn't have a fucking hole in it.\|The VIth Legion's Liege clapping back using [[FAIL\|model design idiocy]].}}

	The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. ~~It's~~ in universe provenance is as yet unknown.		The <s>[[Churchill]]</s> <s>[[T14 Heavy Tank\|T-14]]</s> <s>[[M6 Heavy Tank]]</s> <s>[[M26 Pershing]]</s> <s>[[Meme\|Flintstones Tank]]</s> '''Rogal Dorn Battle Tank''' is a new [[Imperial Guard]] AFV, revealed as part of their big 2022 refresh. More akin to a ''Heavy Tank'' than an MBT, it is a chonkier and shootier big brother of the old reliable [[Leman Russ Battle Tank\|Leman Russ]] and seems to be a non-Forge World alternative to the [[Macharius Heavy Tank]] as a [[Awesome\|second-generation]] [[Baneblade]]. Its in-universe provenance is as yet unknown.

	It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (alledged) cost-cutting.		It's unfortunately undermined by having one of the greatest model [[FAIL\|fail]]s in recent memory, due to [[What\|the entire undercarriage being MIA]]. It's been [[meme]]d that this in-universe is because [[Trazyn the Infinite\|one of]] [[Blood Ravens\|the usual suspects]] stole all the undercarriages, among other mockeries of Geedubs' (alledged) cost-cutting.