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	Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.		Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.

	The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun [[152mm Artillery\|almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces]] (the ML-20S variant that was used for the SU-152 benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK ~~50 cal~~ for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful [[Awesome\|that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor]] - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.		The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun [[152mm Artillery\|almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces]] (the ML-20S variant that was used for the SU-152 benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful [[Awesome\|that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor]] - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.		For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.

184.175.25.147 at 18:50, 8 August 2022

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	Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.		Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.

	The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun [[152mm Artillery\|almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces]] (the ML-20S benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful [[Awesome\|that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor]] - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.		The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun [[152mm Artillery\|almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces]] (the ML-20S variant that was used for the SU-152 benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful [[Awesome\|that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor]] - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.		For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.

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	Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.		Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.

	The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun, which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed~~. The~~ SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.		The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun [[152mm Artillery\|almost straight from ML-20 artillery pieces]] (the ML-20S benefitted from the controls being moved to better fit inside a self-propelled gun's enclosed compartment), which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed because its high-explosive shells were so powerful [[Awesome\|that they would still kill the fuck out of a tank's crew without going through its armor]] - hence, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and its HE rounds often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.		For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.

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			[[File:SU-152 SPG.webp\|thumb\|Remember comrade, when the enemy has a [[Stug III\|good idea]], it never hurts to try it out yourself.]]
	The SU-152 is a unit available in Flames of War and the last Soviet armored vehicle built off the KV-1 chassis. It was armed with a 15.2 cm Cannon and earned a fierce reputation as Stalin's answer to the Tiger and Panther tanks.		The SU-152 is a unit available in Flames of War and the last Soviet armored vehicle built off the KV-1 chassis. It was armed with a 15.2 cm Cannon and earned a fierce reputation as Stalin's answer to the Tiger and Panther tanks.
			==Late War==
			[[File:SU-152 SPG Statcard.jpg\|thumb\|left\|Da Stats]]

	==IRL==		==IRL==
	Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. ~~See, the~~ Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, ~~was~~ largely a ~~backwards statein~~ the 40s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you ~~needed~~ part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.		Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. The Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, were largely a backward state in the 40s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at the war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you need part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.

	Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.		Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.

	The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis, and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun, which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed. The SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and ~~really~~ anything it so much as sneezed it, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, ~~that~~ spawned such wonderful vehicles ~~such~~ the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.		The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun, which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed. The SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and anything it so much as sneezed it, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, spawned such wonderful vehicles as the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. ~~The vehicle, being~~ an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, was understandably cramped, and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges ~~than~~ they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it ~~absolutely~~ could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.		For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. Being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, the vehicle was understandably cramped and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges as they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.

	The 152 was later ~~superceded~~ by the ISU-152, a tank that was largely similar, but used the IS chassis instead of a KV chassis, as the KV chassis had been retired by that point.		The 152 was later superseded by the ISU-152, a tank that was largely similar, but used the IS chassis instead of a KV chassis, as the KV chassis had been retired by that point.

	{{Soviet Forces in Flames of War}}		{{Soviet Forces in Flames of War}}

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	==IRL==		==IRL==
	Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. See, the Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, was largely a backwards ~~state in many ways in~~ the ~~1940s~~. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you needed part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.		Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. See, the Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, was largely a backwards statein the 40s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you needed part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.

	~~However,~~ the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them ~~by a lot of stuff~~, ~~but~~ during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's ~~Homework~~. As ~~usual~~, it didn't take long for a ~~casemate vehicle to appear in the Russian army. However, it miraculously was not just a cheap~~ copy of the STUG III, ~~but~~ a ~~whole new design~~.		Even though the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them, during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's homework. As is typical of commies, it didn't take long for a copy of the STUG III to arrive, and miraculously it wasn't a cheap knock-off: The SU-152.

	The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis, and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun, which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed. ~~However, the 152 wasn't remembered for being a highly effective assault gun, though it performed this role quite well.~~		The 152 was built on a KV-1S chassis, and was armed with a 15.2 cm gun, which was later given a DsHK 50 cal for protection in urban combat. The gun quickly earned a fierce reputation for blowing anything it aimed at back to Naziland, and that's assuming it only barely missed. The SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and really anything it so much as sneezed it, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, that spawned such wonderful vehicles such the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	~~No, the~~ SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and really anything it so much as sneezed it~~. The gun could easily be turned against Heavy German tanks~~, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, that spawned such wonderful vehicles such the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. The vehicle, being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, was understandably cramped, and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges than they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it absolutely could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.		For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. The vehicle, being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, was understandably cramped, and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges than they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it absolutely could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.

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	No, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and really anything it so much as sneezed it. The gun could easily be turned against Heavy German tanks, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, that spawned such wonderful vehicles such the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.		No, the SU-152 was remembered as the "beast killer". By which we mean it killed Panthers, Tigers, and really anything it so much as sneezed it. The gun could easily be turned against Heavy German tanks, and it often blew turrets right off anything it hit. It could even destroy [[FAIL\|Elefants]]. It was awesome shit like this that caused the (at points, retarded) tank arms race between the two countries in the latter part of the war, that spawned such wonderful vehicles such the Maus, IS-3, and Ratte.

	For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. The vehicle, being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, was understandably cramped, and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE ~~she'll~~ being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges than they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it absolutely could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.		For all the wonderful things about it though, the 152 had its fair share of issues. The vehicle, being an entirely enclosed Self-propelled Gun, was understandably cramped, and quite unergonomic, a pattern for many Soviet vehicles. While the HE shell being able to rip turrets off is undoubtedly awesome, Howitzers are not nearly as accurate at far ranges than they are at close range, something that the Tiger's 88mm Cannon didn't give two shits about. Additionally, Tigers could still kill them at decent ranges, and normal Panzers could too if they flanked them. The final problem is that the SU is slow to reload. So while it absolutely could be a tank destroyer, this was largely a secondary purpose for the vehicle.

	The 152 was later superceded by the ISU-152, a tank that was largely similar, but used the IS chassis instead of a KV chassis, as the KV chassis had been retired by that point.		The 152 was later superceded by the ISU-152, a tank that was largely similar, but used the IS chassis instead of a KV chassis, as the KV chassis had been retired by that point.

	{{Soviet Forces in Flames of War}}		{{Soviet Forces in Flames of War}}

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	==IRL==		==IRL==
	Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. See, the Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, was largely a backwards state in many ways in the 1940s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union ~~Struggled~~ against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the ~~Solvet~~ Union over. As such at war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you needed part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the ~~commissar~~ likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.		Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. See, the Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, was largely a backwards state in many ways in the 1940s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Soviet Union over. As such at war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you needed part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the Commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.

	However, the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them by a lot of stuff, but during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's Homework. As usual, it didn't take long for a casemate vehicle to appear in the Russian army. However, it miraculously was not just a cheap copy of the STUG III, but a whole new design.		However, the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them by a lot of stuff, but during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's Homework. As usual, it didn't take long for a casemate vehicle to appear in the Russian army. However, it miraculously was not just a cheap copy of the STUG III, but a whole new design.

2601:1C0:5C01:EAA0:0:0:0:C26D: /* IRL */

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	==IRL==		==IRL==
	Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. See, the Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, was largely a backwards state in many ways in the 1940s. ~~This included~~ the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you needed part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.		Originally, the 152 traces its origins back to Stalingrad. See, the Soviets, contrary to what the [[Communism\|Tankies]] will tell you, was largely a backwards state in many ways in the 1940s. Stalin's purges didn't help matters and it's why the Union Struggled against Finland, and it's poor performance in Finland is one reason (among many) that the Germans thought they could roll the Solvet Union over. As such at war start the USSR was not yet big on the concept of mechanization, which meant that if you needed part of a building to not exist, you'd have to drag a really fucking big gun there with horses, and that's assuming the commissar likes you. This left the guns incredibly vulnerable in urban combat environments to fanatic retards with 1200rpm machine guns and overrated smgs screaming about Jews and the Fuhrer.

	However, the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them by a lot of stuff, but during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's Homework. As usual, it didn't take long for a casemate vehicle to appear in the Russian army. However, it miraculously was not just a cheap copy of the STUG III, but a whole new design.		However, the Soviets had been getting their asses handed to them by a lot of stuff, but during that time they had been figuring out how to copy Hitler's Homework. As usual, it didn't take long for a casemate vehicle to appear in the Russian army. However, it miraculously was not just a cheap copy of the STUG III, but a whole new design.