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	'''~~Saith~~ Cuthbert of the Cudgel''' is a [[Dungeons & Dragons]] God hailing from the setting of [[Greyhawk]]. God of common sense, wisdom, zeal, honesty, truth, and discipline, he is one of the two oldest gods in D&D history, having been created alongside his rival [[Pholtus]] in 1972 by [[Gary Gygax]] himself.		'''Saint Cuthbert of the Cudgel''' is a [[Dungeons & Dragons]] God hailing from the setting of [[Greyhawk]]. God of common sense, wisdom, zeal, honesty, truth, and discipline, he is one of the two oldest gods in D&D history, having been created alongside his rival [[Pholtus]] in 1972 by [[Gary Gygax]] himself.

	==Personality==		==Personality==

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	===Alignment===		===Alignment===
	You see that alignment entry in his character box? Ol' Cuthbert has flipflopped a lot between Lawful Neutral and Lawful Good over the editions, resulting in the attempt to compromise there. Why? Well... on the one hand, Saint Cuthbert is a staunch enemy of evil, but on the other hand, he's... you know, kind of a dick, with a tendency to care more about telling people how they should behave than anything else. So he sits somewhere between the Lawful Good and Lawful Neutral alignments.		You see that alignment entry in his character box? Ol' Cuthbert has flipflopped a lot between Lawful Neutral and Lawful Good over the editions, resulting in the attempt to compromise there. Why? Well... on the one hand, Saint Cuthbert is a staunch enemy of evil, but on the other hand, he's... you know, kind of a dick, with a tendency to care more about telling people how they should behave than anything else. So he sits somewhere between the Lawful Good and Lawful Neutral alignments.[citation needed]

	Originally, he was described as Lawful Good (with some Lawful Neutral tendencies) in [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition, when his stats appeared for the very first time in the [[Dragon Magazine]] article "The Deities and Demigods of the World of Greyhawk", written by Gary Gygax in Dragon #67.		Originally, he was described as Lawful Good (with some Lawful Neutral tendencies) in [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] 1st edition, when his stats appeared for the very first time in the [[Dragon Magazine]] article "The Deities and Demigods of the World of Greyhawk", written by Gary Gygax in Dragon #67.

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	==Real-Life Connections==		==Real-Life Connections==
	In real life, Saint Cuthbert is the patron saint of Northumbria (~~that's~~ northern England~~, for all you non-Britfags in the audience~~) in the Anglican and [[Imperium\|Catholic]] faiths. In older fluff, it was implied that he really ''was'' Saint Cuthbert, and that he somehow ended up in Greyhawk and was worshiped there. Strangely, this completely escaped TSR when the moral panics made them scrub D&D of all references to real-world Christianity in Second Edition. Probably because no one who isn't a devout Catholic or Anglican from Northumbria (or, apparently, Gary Gygax) has ever heard of Saint Cuthbert.		In real life, Saint Cuthbert is the patron saint of Northumbria (northern England) in the Anglican and [[Imperium\|Catholic]] faiths. In older fluff, it was implied that he really ''was'' Saint Cuthbert, and that he somehow ended up in Greyhawk and was worshiped there. Strangely, this completely escaped TSR when the moral panics made them scrub D&D of all references to real-world Christianity in Second Edition. Probably because no one who isn't a devout Catholic or Anglican from Northumbria (or, apparently, Gary Gygax) has ever heard of Saint Cuthbert.

	Funnily enough, this makes the Oerthian St. Cuthbert's henotheistic ("acknowledge the other gods, but worship me above all others") attitude a lot more understandable.		Funnily enough, this makes the Oerthian St. Cuthbert's henotheistic ("acknowledge the other gods, but worship me above all others") attitude a lot more understandable.

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	\|Name = Saint Cuthbert		\|Name = Saint Cuthbert
	\|Symbol = [[File:Cuthbert02.jpg\|140px]]		\|Symbol = [[File:Cuthbert02.jpg\|140px]]
	\|Aliases = of the ~~Cudgell~~		\|Aliases = of the Cudgel
	\|Alignment = Lawful Neutral (Lawful Good tendencies) or Vice Versa		\|Alignment = Lawful Neutral (Lawful Good tendencies) or Vice Versa
	\|Divine Rank = Intermediate God		\|Divine Rank = Intermediate God

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	[[Image:Cuthbert p92.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|left\|Saint Cuthbert The Cudgel, pictured with his cudgel. Not to be confused with [[Rogal Dorn]].]]		[[Image:Cuthbert p92.jpg\|200px\|thumb\|left\|Saint Cuthbert of The Cudgel, pictured with his cudgel. Not to be confused with [[Rogal Dorn]].]]
	{{Infobox Deity		{{Infobox Deity
	\|Name = Saint Cuthbert		\|Name = Saint Cuthbert
	\|Symbol = [[File:Cuthbert02.jpg\|140px]]		\|Symbol = [[File:Cuthbert02.jpg\|140px]]
			\|Aliases = of the Cudgell
	\|Alignment = Lawful Neutral (Lawful Good tendencies) or Vice Versa		\|Alignment = Lawful Neutral (Lawful Good tendencies) or Vice Versa
	\|Divine Rank = Intermediate God		\|Divine Rank = Intermediate God

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	==Personality==		==Personality==
	Saint Cuthbert is characterized as a staunch opponent of evil, a zealous and driven deity who values discipline, ~~honest~~, zeal and pragmatism, all tempered by common sense. He is a rough sort of god, hot-tempered and staunch in his convictions. He is also... well... a bit of a dick. Firmly convinced of his own wisdom and authority, he can easily come off as self-righteous and arrogant - not helped by the fact he claims to know the only truth path for a person to behave, and seeks to aggressively convert others to his following. This is one of the big reasons why he and [[Pholtus]] don't get on too well; they both believe they know best, and that they should be the top god, and aren't shy about expressing that feeling. He also has something of an anti-intellectual streak, as he regards common sense to be far more important than book learning, which it's implied he believes can lead a mind astray from the correct path.		Saint Cuthbert is characterized as a staunch opponent of evil, a zealous and driven deity who values discipline, honesty, zeal and pragmatism, all tempered by common sense. He is a rough sort of god, hot-tempered and staunch in his convictions. He is also... well... a bit of a dick. Firmly convinced of his own wisdom and authority, he can easily come off as self-righteous and arrogant - not helped by the fact he claims to know the only truth path for a person to behave, and seeks to aggressively convert others to his following. This is one of the big reasons why he and [[Pholtus]] don't get on too well; they both believe they know best, and that they should be the top god, and aren't shy about expressing that feeling. He also has something of an anti-intellectual streak, as he regards common sense to be far more important than book learning, which it's implied he believes can lead a mind astray from the correct path.

	Still, for all his rough edges, Saint Cuthbert is a practical god who does care intensely for the people who follow him. As a god of common sense, he values judgment and individuality; the letter of the law should be strict, but people should be flexible in applying it, not just follow law blindly (the key trait distinguishing him from Pholtus). Punish thievery, yes, but a man who stole a loaf of bread to feed his starving family should just get a flogging and a scolding for not asking for help first, you shouldn't just cut his hand off. The goal of laws, in Cuthbert's eyes, is to show people the key to a better way of life and to "encourage" them to stick to the righteous path by punishing them for disobedience, tempering severity with understanding. Tough love, but love all the same.		Still, for all his rough edges, Saint Cuthbert is a practical god who does care intensely for the people who follow him. As a god of common sense, he values judgment and individuality; the letter of the law should be strict, but people should be flexible in applying it, not just follow law blindly (the key trait distinguishing him from Pholtus). Punish thievery, yes, but a man who stole a loaf of bread to feed his starving family should just get a flogging and a scolding for not asking for help first, you shouldn't just cut his hand off. The goal of laws, in Cuthbert's eyes, is to show people the key to a better way of life and to "encourage" them to stick to the righteous path by punishing them for disobedience, tempering severity with understanding. Tough love, but love all the same.

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	{{Infobox Deity		{{Infobox Deity
	\|Name = Saint Cuthbert		\|Name = Saint Cuthbert
	\|Symbol = [[File:Cuthbert02.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		\|Symbol = [[File:Cuthbert02.jpg\|140px]]
	\|Alignment = Lawful Neutral (Lawful Good tendencies) or Vice Versa		\|Alignment = Lawful Neutral (Lawful Good tendencies) or Vice Versa
	\|Divine Rank = Intermediate God		\|Divine Rank = Intermediate God
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	\|Favoured Weapon = ''Mace of Cuthbert'' ([[Mace]], specifically the cudgel)		\|Favoured Weapon = ''Mace of Cuthbert'' ([[Mace]], specifically the cudgel)
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	'''Saith Cuthbert of the Cudgel''' is a [[Dungeons & Dragons]] God hailing from the setting of [[Greyhawk]]. God of common sense, wisdom, zeal, honesty, truth, and discipline, he is one of the two oldest gods in D&D history, having been created alongside his rival [[Pholtus]] in 1972 by [[Gary Gygax]] himself.		'''Saith Cuthbert of the Cudgel''' is a [[Dungeons & Dragons]] God hailing from the setting of [[Greyhawk]]. God of common sense, wisdom, zeal, honesty, truth, and discipline, he is one of the two oldest gods in D&D history, having been created alongside his rival [[Pholtus]] in 1972 by [[Gary Gygax]] himself.

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	==Personality==		==Personality==
	Saint Cuthbert is characterized as a staunch opponent of evil, a zealous and driven deity who values discipline, honest, zeal and pragmatism, all tempered by common sense. He is a rough sort of god, hot-tempered and staunch in his convictions. He is also... well... a bit of a dick. Firmly convinced of his own wisdom and authority, he can easily come off as self-righteous and arrogant - not helped by the fact he claims to know the only truth path for a person to behave, and seeks to aggressively convert others to his following. This is one of the big reasons why he and [[Pholtus]] don't get on too well; they both believe they know best, and that they should be the top god, and aren't shy about expressing that feeling. He also has something of an anti-intellectual streak, as he regards ~~commons~~ sense to be far more important than book learning, which it's implied he believes can lead a mind astray from the correct path.		Saint Cuthbert is characterized as a staunch opponent of evil, a zealous and driven deity who values discipline, honest, zeal and pragmatism, all tempered by common sense. He is a rough sort of god, hot-tempered and staunch in his convictions. He is also... well... a bit of a dick. Firmly convinced of his own wisdom and authority, he can easily come off as self-righteous and arrogant - not helped by the fact he claims to know the only truth path for a person to behave, and seeks to aggressively convert others to his following. This is one of the big reasons why he and [[Pholtus]] don't get on too well; they both believe they know best, and that they should be the top god, and aren't shy about expressing that feeling. He also has something of an anti-intellectual streak, as he regards common sense to be far more important than book learning, which it's implied he believes can lead a mind astray from the correct path.

	Still, for all his rough edges, Saint Cuthbert is a practical god who does care intensely for the people who follow him. As a god of common sense, he values judgment and individuality; the letter of the law should be strict, but people should be flexible in applying it, not just follow law blindly (the key trait distinguishing him from Pholtus). Punish thievery, yes, but a man who stole a loaf of bread to feed his starving family should just get a flogging and a scolding for not asking for help first, you shouldn't just cut his hand off. The goal of laws, in Cuthbert's eyes, is to show people the key to a better way of life and to "encourage" them to stick to the righteous path by punishing them for disobedience, tempering severity with understanding. Tough love, but love all the same.		Still, for all his rough edges, Saint Cuthbert is a practical god who does care intensely for the people who follow him. As a god of common sense, he values judgment and individuality; the letter of the law should be strict, but people should be flexible in applying it, not just follow law blindly (the key trait distinguishing him from Pholtus). Punish thievery, yes, but a man who stole a loaf of bread to feed his starving family should just get a flogging and a scolding for not asking for help first, you shouldn't just cut his hand off. The goal of laws, in Cuthbert's eyes, is to show people the key to a better way of life and to "encourage" them to stick to the righteous path by punishing them for disobedience, tempering severity with understanding. Tough love, but love all the same.