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	==Dungeons & Dragons==		==Dungeons & Dragons==
	Like all of the ten guilds, the Selesnya Conclave appeared in the Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, a [[splatbook]] for [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]]. Here, it was handled as a combination of Background and Faction, with the player choosing the "Selesnya Initiate" background to certify they have membership, and being able to earn Renown. This is a new system to 5e, and basically is a kind of abstractified experience; you start off as a general worker (Renown 1), and as you complete missions for the Guild or do things that get you noticed, your Renown increases, giving you increased abilities. Of course, if you publicly screw things up for your guild, your esteem will drop and you can ~~loose~~ Renown.		Like all of the ten guilds, the Selesnya Conclave appeared in the Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, a [[splatbook]] for [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]]. Here, it was handled as a combination of Background and Faction, with the player choosing the "Selesnya Initiate" background to certify they have membership, and being able to earn Renown. This is a new system to 5e, and basically is a kind of abstractified experience; you start off as a general worker (Renown 1), and as you complete missions for the Guild or do things that get you noticed, your Renown increases, giving you increased abilities. Of course, if you publicly screw things up for your guild, your esteem will drop and you can lose Renown.

	Characters from the Selesnya Conclave are most likely to be [[Human]]s, [[Centaur]]s, [[Elf\|Wood Elves]], [[Half-Elf\|Half-Elves]] and [[Loxodon]]s. The most iconic classes associated with this guild are the [[Bard]] (Glamour, Lore), [[Cleric]] (Life, Nature), Druid (Dreams, Land (Forest/Grassland), Shepherd), [[Fighter]] ([[Arcane Archer]], Battle Master, Champion), [[Monk]] (Open Hand), [[Paladin]] (Redemption, Ancients), [[Ranger]] (Beast Master - prefer Wolves, Hunter), and [[Warlock]] ([[Archfey]]).		Characters from the Selesnya Conclave are most likely to be [[Human]]s, [[Centaur]]s, [[Elf\|Wood Elves]], [[Half-Elf\|Half-Elves]] and [[Loxodon]]s. The most iconic classes associated with this guild are the [[Bard]] (Glamour, Lore), [[Cleric]] (Life, Nature), Druid (Dreams, Land (Forest/Grassland), Shepherd), [[Fighter]] ([[Arcane Archer]], Battle Master, Champion), [[Monk]] (Open Hand), [[Paladin]] (Redemption, Ancients), [[Ranger]] (Beast Master - prefer Wolves, Hunter), and [[Warlock]] ([[Archfey]]).

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 [[File:Selesnya Logo.png|center]]
-The Selesnya Conclave is a green/white guild from the plane and city of Ravnica. Introduced in Ravnica: City of Guilds, the guild is also featured in Return to Ravnica and Guilds of Ravnica.
+The Selesnya Conclave is a green/white guild from the plane and city of Ravnica. Introduced in Ravnica: City of Guilds, the guild is also featured in Return to Ravnica and Guilds of Ravnica. They represent an orderly version of nature quite removed from the shamanistic savagery of the Gruul Clans and are the true religious faction in Ravnica, including the dark side that it entails...
-==History of the Conclave==
 The Conclave was founded by Mat'Selesnya, a female humanoid elemental formed via [[Phoenix Lord|the fusion of several dryads]].  The Selesnya Conclave is a decentralized collective variably described as a "selfless, nurturing, spiritual group" or a "brainwashing nature cult", and involves itself in the establishment and maintenance of peace, life, and unity in Ravnica.
-Despite their superficial appearance of being a "good" and "peace-loving", in truth the guild has a nasty history, as hypocritical and as sinister as the other Ravnican guilds.  The Conclave employed "Quietmen" and other members to silence the civilians of Ravnica, and once attempted a plane-wide brainwashing scheme. The defenders of the Selesnya are the Ledev guardians. In addition to these guards, the Quietmen used to guard Vitu-Ghazi, but Szadek, Lord of Secrets gained control of them and used them to wreak havoc.
+Despite their superficial appearance of being a "good" and "peace-loving", in truth the guild has a nasty history, as hypocritical and as sinister as the other Ravnican guilds.  The Conclave employed "Quietmen" and other members to silence the civilians of Ravnica, and once attempted a plane-wide brainwashing scheme. The defenders of the Selesnya are the Ledev guardians. In addition to these guards, the Quietmen used to guard Vitu-Ghazi, but Szadek, Lord of Secrets gained control of them and used them to wreak havoc. Since the end of the original Ravnica block they have been much in the distant background of many of the plane's subsequent events.
 The Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica book for 5th Edition D&D makes it clear that the average faction agent or Guild grunt doesn't know shit about the Guild's darker history, and mostly avoids any of the more ethically untenable mind control stuff.  Of course, the entire senior faction hierarchy are now Lawful Good, too, so maybe they just wanted one unambiguously not-evil faction outside the Boros for the book.  It also provided stats for the collective of dryads that run the show, and they're piddling compared to, say, Rakdos or Aurelia.
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 ::The Orzhov are an odiously corrupt farce of a religion, being essentially a scientologist-like cult crossbred with a ruthless mafia that will hound you to the afterlife itself with payday-loan shark debts.
 In comparison to these often malevolent secret/not-so-secret societies, the Selesnya are practically saints. In essence, the Selesnya function as a mutual defense pact against all these crazy people serving actual demons, Illuminati-vampires, mafia-boss ghosts, dragons, mad scientists, necromancers, and petty tyrannical bureaucrats. Not to mention that the Selesnya Conclave is the only non-malevolent source of spirituality that we know about on Ravnica. In the end, is it really so bad to be in a spiritual and naturalistic community that truly takes care of all of its own? Because that is the question that the guildless citizens of Ravnica have to ask themselves, is it worth being on their own, free and yet at the mercy of the other guilds, having only the indelicate and blind protection of the law to safeguard them and being unable to deliver retribution? The Selesnya Conclave offers safety and community against the lawful lawlessness of the other guilds, being one of the few guilds not made up of crazy people, criminals, wicked sadists, or amoral wannabe-Übermensches certainly helps too.
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	==Guild Members==		==Guild Members==
	The "guild leader" of Selesnya in the Ravnica: City of Guilds set is a collective mind known as the Chorus of the Conclave. This currently consists of three dryads, serving as the new guildmaster and the voice of what's left of Mat'Selesnya. Outside of them, the top members of the guild are figureheads,		The "guild leader" of Selesnya in the Ravnica: City of Guilds set is a collective mind known as the Chorus of the Conclave. This currently consists of three dryads, serving as the new guildmaster and the voice of what's left of Mat'Selesnya. Outside of them, the top members of the guild are figureheads,

	~~==Guild Agents==~~
	~~Selesnya leadership is composed mainly of dryads. The soldiery are mainly made of humans, elves, centaurs, and dryads supported by tamed creatures like wolves or wurms.~~

	Mat'Selesnya now resides within Vitu-Ghazi, having offered herself to preserve order in Selesnya. After the Resurgence, the Selesnyans are reorganized into vernadi, small communes lead by dryads who speak for the worldmind.

	==Guild Structure==		==Guild Structure==

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	==Guild Structure==		==Guild Structure==
	The main seat of Selesnya's power in the region of Utvara was Vitar Yescu, an enormous living tree that produced a pollen that served as an antigen to a local plague. The head of Selesnya in Utvara was the elven shapeshifter Wrizfar Barkfeather.		The main seat of Selesnya's power in the region of Utvara was Vitar Yescu, an enormous living tree that produced a pollen that served as an antigen to a local plague. The head of Selesnya in Utvara at the time was the elven shapeshifter Wrizfar Barkfeather.

	~~After~~ the ~~Decamillennial~~, the ~~decimated Wojek League turned to other guilds' similar organizations for temporary help~~. ~~Many Selesnyan Ledev (Ledev~~ are ~~essentially Selesnyan knights/peacekeepers) thus serves as "apos", i.e. auxiliary patrol officers~~, with the ~~Wojek. After~~ the ~~Decamillennial,~~ a ~~new half-military suborganization was also founded~~ - ~~the Knight Order~~ of ~~Mat'selesnya~~.		The guildmaster of the Conclave presently is Trostani, a trio of dryads who represent Mat'Selesnya's voice directly. The senior leadership of the Conclave is composed almost exclusively of dryads who live in a collective hive mind. Below this level of leadership are the various advisors and knight leaders of the Conclave's forces, along with the mysterious Quietmen who are the Conclave's internal security force (and may also be levied as a last-ditch army in times of great emergency).

	~~During~~ the ~~events~~ of ~~Agents~~ of ~~Artifice, the~~ Selesnya ~~were lynched en~~-~~masse by~~ the ~~citizenry due to~~ the ~~aforementioned mass-brainwashing spell being broken~~. ~~However, they returned as~~ of the ~~events of Return to Ravnica~~. ~~The new Selesnya were officially more concerned with preserving nature~~, ~~creating places to illuminate~~ the ~~wonders~~ of ~~nature and inspire contemplation —hopefully on~~ the ~~blessings of Mat'selesnya— for all of Ravnica~~.		The influence of the Conclave extends far across the plane of Ravnica, with small communities of Selesnya converts called ''vernadi'' directly connected to Vitu-Ghazi (the World-Tree of the guild and its main hall) via roots. Each vernadi is headed by a dryad leader called a ''voda'' who is also part of the Conclave's hive mind. Mystics known as hierarchs serve these communities, and despite their title represent the lowest level of advisors to the Conclave.

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==

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	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==
	=== Convoke ===		=== Convoke ===
	A sort of self ramp ability, spells with convoke let you tap creatures to cover their mana cost. Colored mana can only be paid using creatures of that color of course.		A sort of self ramp ability, spells with convoke let you tap creatures to cover their mana cost. Colored mana can only be paid using creatures of that color of course. Returned in ''War of the Spark'' as the Selesnya core mechanic.

	=== Populate ===		=== Populate ===

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	::The Rakdos only care about their hedonism, murdering people for laughs, and their demon worship.		::The Rakdos only care about their hedonism, murdering people for laughs, and their demon worship.
	::The Dimir care only for being on top from the shadows, masterminding and manipulating conspiracies, and blackmailing or murdering any dissenters.		::The Dimir care only for being on top from the shadows, masterminding and manipulating conspiracies, and blackmailing or murdering any dissenters.
	::The Simic care only for playing God with science and biology. Consequences (and lives ruined through "improvement") be damned, as only they know better than anyone else (or the guy who ~~last~~ tried before them ~~naturally~~).		::The Simic care only for playing God with science and biology. Consequences (and lives ruined through "improvement") be damned, as only they know better than anyone else (they especially know better than the last guy who tried before them).
	::The Izzet are a cult of personality for an eccentric dragon scientist who cares little for collateral damage.		::The Izzet are a cult of personality for an eccentric dragon scientist who cares little for collateral damage.
	::The Gruul are angry, hurt, and truthfully wronged outcasts and anarchists that do not care about who they hurt in their rage against the system.		::The Gruul are angry, hurt, and truthfully wronged outcasts and anarchists that do not care about who they hurt in their rage against the system.

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	The Selesnya Conclave is a green/white guild from the plane and city of Ravnica. Introduced in Ravnica: City of Guilds, the guild is also featured in Return to Ravnica and Guilds of Ravnica.		[[File:Selesnya Logo.png\|center]]

			The Selesnya Conclave is a green/white guild from the plane and city of Ravnica. Introduced in Ravnica: City of Guilds, the guild is also featured in Return to Ravnica and Guilds of Ravnica.


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	The Conclave was founded by Mat'Selesnya, a female humanoid elemental formed via [[Phoenix Lord\|the fusion of several dryads]]. The Selesnya Conclave is a decentralized collective variably described as a "selfless, nurturing, spiritual group" or a "brainwashing nature cult", and involves itself in the establishment and maintenance of peace, life, and unity in Ravnica.		The Conclave was founded by Mat'Selesnya, a female humanoid elemental formed via [[Phoenix Lord\|the fusion of several dryads]]. The Selesnya Conclave is a decentralized collective variably described as a "selfless, nurturing, spiritual group" or a "brainwashing nature cult", and involves itself in the establishment and maintenance of peace, life, and unity in Ravnica.

	Despite their superficial appearance of being a "good" and "peace-loving", in truth the guild ~~is just~~ as hypocritical and as sinister~~, if not more so,~~ as other Ravnican guilds. The Conclave ~~often employs its quietmen~~ and other members to silence the civilians of Ravnica. The defenders of the Selesnya are the Ledev guardians. In addition to these guards, the ~~quiet-men~~ used to guard Vitu-Ghazi, but Szadek, Lord of Secrets gained control of them and used them to wreak havoc.		Despite their superficial appearance of being a "good" and "peace-loving", in truth the guild has a nasty history, as hypocritical and as sinister as the other Ravnican guilds. The Conclave employed "Quietmen" and other members to silence the civilians of Ravnica, and once attempted a plane-wide brainwashing scheme. The defenders of the Selesnya are the Ledev guardians. In addition to these guards, the Quietmen used to guard Vitu-Ghazi, but Szadek, Lord of Secrets gained control of them and used them to wreak havoc.

	The Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica book for 5th Edition D&D makes it clear that the average faction agent or Guild grunt doesn't know shit about the Guild's darker history, and mostly avoids any of the more ethically untenable mind control stuff. Of course, the entire senior faction hierarchy are now Lawful Good, too, so maybe they just wanted one unambiguously not-evil faction outside the Boros for the book. It also provided stats for the collective of dryads that run the show, and they're piddling compared to, say, Rakdos or Aurelia.		The Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica book for 5th Edition D&D makes it clear that the average faction agent or Guild grunt doesn't know shit about the Guild's darker history, and mostly avoids any of the more ethically untenable mind control stuff. Of course, the entire senior faction hierarchy are now Lawful Good, too, so maybe they just wanted one unambiguously not-evil faction outside the Boros for the book. It also provided stats for the collective of dryads that run the show, and they're piddling compared to, say, Rakdos or Aurelia.

			==Villians or not?==
			Compared to the other guilds of Ravnica, they are no more or less villianous compared to the other guilds even when taking into account brainwashing schemes (the other guilds, Dimir and Orzhov particularly, would not hesitate to do such a thing), as the creation of the guild system itself could be seen as an unjust act or mistake that inevitably results in tyranny.
			What sets the Selesnya apart from the other guilds is that they do not actively disdain or ignore the citizens of Ravnica, but instead care about keeping them safe and able to live in a peaceful community. The other guilds certainly do not have this as their goal.
			::The Azorious only care about maintaining the status quo, which is them being THE Authority, and writing laws that restrict and strangulate change.
			::The Boros are essentially the military arm of the Azorious and the guildpact, too hidebound to see the injustices of overreaching law in spite of their passion for justice.
			::The Rakdos only care about their hedonism, murdering people for laughs, and their demon worship.
			::The Dimir care only for being on top from the shadows, masterminding and manipulating conspiracies, and blackmailing or murdering any dissenters.
			::The Simic care only for playing God with science and biology. Consequences (and lives ruined through "improvement") be damned, as only they know better than anyone else (or the guy who last tried before them naturally).
			::The Izzet are a cult of personality for an eccentric dragon scientist who cares little for collateral damage.
			::The Gruul are angry, hurt, and truthfully wronged outcasts and anarchists that do not care about who they hurt in their rage against the system.
			::The Golgari are often-malevolent necromancers and criminals who live apart from the rest of Ravnica in what is essentially their own dog-eat-dog society with a disturbing emphasis on "recycling".
			::The Orzhov are an odiously corrupt farce of a religion, being essentially a scientologist-like cult crossbred with a ruthless mafia that will hound you to the afterlife itself with payday-loan shark debts.
			In comparison to these often malevolent secret/not-so-secret societies, the Selesnya are practically saints. In essence, the Selesnya function as a mutual defense pact against all these crazy people serving actual demons, Illuminati-vampires, mafia-boss ghosts, dragons, mad scientists, necromancers, and petty tyrannical bureaucrats. Not to mention that the Selesnya Conclave is the only non-malevolent source of spirituality that we know about on Ravnica. In the end, is it really so bad to be in a spiritual and naturalistic community that truly takes care of all of its own? Because that is the question that the guildless citizens of Ravnica have to ask themselves, is it worth being on their own, free and yet at the mercy of the other guilds, having only the indelicate and blind protection of the law to safeguard them and being unable to deliver retribution? The Selesnya Conclave offers safety and community against the lawful lawlessness of the other guilds, being one of the few guilds not made up of crazy people, criminals, wicked sadists, or amoral wannabe-Übermensches certainly helps too.

	==Guild Members==		==Guild Members==
	The "guild leader" of Selesnya in the Ravnica: City of Guilds set is a collective mind known as the Chorus of the Conclave. This currently consists of three dryads, serving as the new guildmaster and the voice of what's left of Mat'Selesnya. Outside of them, the top members of the guild are figureheads		The "guild leader" of Selesnya in the Ravnica: City of Guilds set is a collective mind known as the Chorus of the Conclave. This currently consists of three dryads, serving as the new guildmaster and the voice of what's left of Mat'Selesnya. Outside of them, the top members of the guild are figureheads,

	==Guild Agents==		==Guild Agents==
	Selesnya leadership is composed mainly of dryads. The soldiery are mainly made of humans, elves and dryads.		Selesnya leadership is composed mainly of dryads. The soldiery are mainly made of humans, elves, centaurs, and dryads supported by tamed creatures like wolves or wurms.

	Mat'Selesnya now resides within Vitu-Ghazi, having offered herself to preserve order in Selesnya. After the Resurgence, the Selesnyans are reorganized into vernadi, small communes lead by dryads who speak for the worldmind.		Mat'Selesnya now resides within Vitu-Ghazi, having offered herself to preserve order in Selesnya. After the Resurgence, the Selesnyans are reorganized into vernadi, small communes lead by dryads who speak for the worldmind.

	==Guild Structure==		==Guild Structure==
	The main seat of Selesnya's power in the region of Utvara was Vitar Yescu, an enormous living tree that produced a pollen that served as an antigen to local plague. The head of Selesnya in Utvara was elven shapeshifter Wrizfar Barkfeather.		The main seat of Selesnya's power in the region of Utvara was Vitar Yescu, an enormous living tree that produced a pollen that served as an antigen to a local plague. The head of Selesnya in Utvara was the elven shapeshifter Wrizfar Barkfeather.

	After the Decamillennial, the decimated Wojek League turned to other guilds' similar organizations for temporary help. Many Selesnyan ~~ledev~~ thus serves as "apos", i.e. auxiliary patrol officers, with the ~~wojeks~~. After the Decamillennial, a new half-military suborganization was also founded - the Knight Order of Mat'selesnya.		After the Decamillennial, the decimated Wojek League turned to other guilds' similar organizations for temporary help. Many Selesnyan Ledev (Ledev are essentially Selesnyan knights/peacekeepers) thus serves as "apos", i.e. auxiliary patrol officers, with the Wojek. After the Decamillennial, a new half-military suborganization was also founded - the Knight Order of Mat'selesnya.

	During the events of Agents of Artifice, the Selesnya were lynched en masse due to the ~~citizens realizing their role in forcing the oppression of the guilds~~. However, they returned as of the events of Return to Ravnica. The new Selesnya were officially more concerned with preserving nature, creating places to illuminate the wonders of nature and inspire contemplation —hopefully on the blessings of Mat'selesnya— for all of Ravnica.		During the events of Agents of Artifice, the Selesnya were lynched en-masse by the citizenry due to the aforementioned mass-brainwashing spell being broken. However, they returned as of the events of Return to Ravnica. The new Selesnya were officially more concerned with preserving nature, creating places to illuminate the wonders of nature and inspire contemplation —hopefully on the blessings of Mat'selesnya— for all of Ravnica.

	==Mechanics==		==Mechanics==

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	Despite their superficial appearance of being a "good" and "peace-loving", in truth the guild is just as hypocritical and as sinister, if not more so, as other Ravnican guilds. The Conclave often employs its quietmen and other members to silence the civilians of Ravnica. The defenders of the Selesnya are the Ledev guardians. In addition to these guards, the quiet-men used to guard Vitu-Ghazi, but Szadek, Lord of Secrets gained control of them and used them to wreak havoc.		Despite their superficial appearance of being a "good" and "peace-loving", in truth the guild is just as hypocritical and as sinister, if not more so, as other Ravnican guilds. The Conclave often employs its quietmen and other members to silence the civilians of Ravnica. The defenders of the Selesnya are the Ledev guardians. In addition to these guards, the quiet-men used to guard Vitu-Ghazi, but Szadek, Lord of Secrets gained control of them and used them to wreak havoc.

			The Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica book for 5th Edition D&D makes it clear that the average faction agent or Guild grunt doesn't know shit about the Guild's darker history, and mostly avoids any of the more ethically untenable mind control stuff. Of course, the entire senior faction hierarchy are now Lawful Good, too, so maybe they just wanted one unambiguously not-evil faction outside the Boros for the book. It also provided stats for the collective of dryads that run the show, and they're piddling compared to, say, Rakdos or Aurelia.

	==Guild Members==		==Guild Members==