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Level Backwards and ways to avoid it

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	===Level Backwards and ways to avoid it===		===Level Backwards and ways to avoid it===
	As you travel through this strange world you will have to pay a heavy price. This wont be a "Sanity Mechanic" because i think insanity works best when you think you are being sane. So in this case as you become more "experienced" in the Dark World, it ~~doesnt~~ actually mean you necessarily get better, in fact this world is taking its toll on your mind, body and soul. When a player levels up, while in the dark world they will have to expend some of their strengths/boons/etc. In order to proceed. The world you knew before no longer matters, best to leave its ways behind.		As you travel through this strange world you will have to pay a heavy price. This wont be a "Sanity Mechanic" because i think insanity works best when you think you are being sane. So in this case as you become more "experienced" in the Dark World, it doesn't actually mean you necessarily get better, in fact this world is taking its toll on your mind, body and soul. When a player levels up, while in the dark world they will have to expend some of their strengths/boons/etc. In order to proceed. The world you knew before no longer matters, best to leave its ways behind.

	====Dark World Points====		====Dark World Points====
	Your attributes can be modified by leveling up, much like they can in a regular RPG. As you progress you gain Dark World Points, these will be added when you perform sensation check rolls. Meaning as you progess you will see further.		Your attributes can be modified by leveling up, much like they can in a regular RPG. As you progress you gain Dark World Points, these will be added when you perform sensation check rolls. Meaning as you progess you will see further.

	However there is a catch. When you are in the overworld these modifiers still apply, but instead of positive they are negative.		However there is a catch. When you are in the overworld these modifiers still apply, but instead of positive they are negative.

	====Your Dark World Self====		====Your Dark World Self====

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	===== Biomechanical Items =====		===== Biomechanical Items =====
	If you are from the light world, you ~~dont~~ get to just use a biomechanical weapon. If you pick up a biomechanical blade to use, it will eventually wither and die, and you cant just "pick up" a darkworlder's biomechanical gun. These biomechanical devices must be integrated into the body. This can have all manner of positive effects, heightened senses, new abilities, weapons that do not breakdown or deplete. However these items just as much wear you as you wear them. They become integrated into your body, they are a part of your body, and you must feel them, understand them and take care of them. Some pieces act as an additional limb, while others have a mind of their own.		If you are from the light world, you don't get to just use a biomechanical weapon. If you pick up a biomechanical blade to use, it will eventually wither and die, and you cant just "pick up" a darkworlder's biomechanical gun. These biomechanical devices must be integrated into the body. This can have all manner of positive effects, heightened senses, new abilities, weapons that do not breakdown or deplete. However these items just as much wear you as you wear them. They become integrated into your body, they are a part of your body, and you must feel them, understand them and take care of them. Some pieces act as an additional limb, while others have a mind of their own.

	;Integration pains		;Integration pains

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Your Dark World Self

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	====Your Dark World Self====		====Your Dark World Self====
	Now there is a way to avoid this, you can slowly become one with your dark world character. Over time, you can affix certain parts of him to yourself, as he will to you. As you progress through the Dark World you will begin to take on an unearthly and bizarre look. As you continue to become a creature of both worlds you can use the skills and abilities he has instead of affecting your own. You can even go back to the overworld and appear unchanged. The problem is, you ~~dont~~ know what his personality is like. So you can avoid losing something, but you gain something you have little control over. Certain actions will now no longer be done by you, and their is a chance your dark self will act on your stead. And this will pass over into the light world as well. After all he's let you into his life, you let him into yours now. Is your family, your wife, and your old ways safe from him?		Now there is a way to avoid this, you can slowly become one with your dark world character. Over time, you can affix certain parts of him to yourself, as he will to you. As you progress through the Dark World you will begin to take on an unearthly and bizarre look. As you continue to become a creature of both worlds you can use the skills and abilities he has instead of affecting your own. You can even go back to the overworld and appear unchanged. The problem is, you don't know what his personality is like. So you can avoid losing something, but you gain something you have little control over. Certain actions will now no longer be done by you, and their is a chance your dark self will act on your stead. And this will pass over into the light world as well. After all he's let you into his life, you let him into yours now. Is your family, your wife, and your old ways safe from him?

	==Senses and Backgrounds==		==Senses and Backgrounds==
	Senses and Backgrounds will serve what Attributes and skills would in a standard RPG		Senses and Backgrounds will serve what Attributes and skills would in a standard RPG

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Other influences to draw from

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	I would love to bounce ideas back and forth on this, because i suspect one of the key issues we are going to run into is that we need some effort in the mechanics, objects, rules and society of the dark world. Objects cant just look weird they have to behave weird as well. your character has to react weirdly, and acclimatizing to the world should come at a cost.		I would love to bounce ideas back and forth on this, because i suspect one of the key issues we are going to run into is that we need some effort in the mechanics, objects, rules and society of the dark world. Objects cant just look weird they have to behave weird as well. your character has to react weirdly, and acclimatizing to the world should come at a cost.
	====Other influences to draw from====		====Other influences to draw from====
	I ~~dont~~ think it would hurt to draw from other, similar, sources besides HR Geiger, so long as they ~~dont~~ overwhelm the main source material.		I don't think it would hurt to draw from other, similar, sources besides HR Geiger, so long as they don't overwhelm the main source material.
	;David Cronenberg		;David Cronenberg
	:Fairly obvious one, but definitely one of the major designers and producers of Biomechanical objects (though it might actually be closer to mechano-biological). Im thinking of eXistenZ and VideoDrome in particular		:Fairly obvious one, but definitely one of the major designers and producers of Biomechanical objects (though it might actually be closer to mechano-biological). Im thinking of eXistenZ and VideoDrome in particular
	;Prometheus		;Prometheus
	:I ~~dont~~ care about the hate, I really like this movie, especially the art style.		:I don't care about the hate, I really like this movie, especially the art style.
	;Tarsem's The Cell		;Tarsem's The Cell
	:Another good aesthetic		:Another good aesthetic
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	;tyrian		;tyrian
	many of the planetary environments in this vertically scrolling shooter have a biomechanical influence		many of the planetary environments in this vertically scrolling shooter have a biomechanical influence

	====Stories over stats====		====Stories over stats====
	So instead of a player picking stats as numbers, they build the character similar to how Mount and Blade does it. You choose certain events in the character's life (or pick it randomly). These events lead to different stats being added to the character's sheet. We will eventually make a list of major character events that will include childhood events to illnesses that will have appropriate stats and roll modifiers. If something isn't mentioned, the GM will have discretion on how to stat it. Personally, I think it would be important that players not really know how their abilities and personalities work in the Dark World to continue to have that sense of discomfort. They should be encouraged to guess its effects and be (un)pleasantly surprised. Essentially where other games would stat these, these would now be feats.		So instead of a player picking stats as numbers, they build the character similar to how Mount and Blade does it. You choose certain events in the character's life (or pick it randomly). These events lead to different stats being added to the character's sheet. We will eventually make a list of major character events that will include childhood events to illnesses that will have appropriate stats and roll modifiers. If something isn't mentioned, the GM will have discretion on how to stat it. Personally, I think it would be important that players not really know how their abilities and personalities work in the Dark World to continue to have that sense of discomfort. They should be encouraged to guess its effects and be (un)pleasantly surprised. Essentially where other games would stat these, these would now be feats.

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	serve the ancients today! - propaganda poster		serve the ancients today! - propaganda poster
	The master race of the dark world and the would-be overlords of earth. They control the entire world and have access to the most advanced technology and weapons. they are challenging combatatnts both mentally and physically. their psionic abillities can actively subjugate the minds of those weaker than themselves although without powerered armour the ancients are weak from a etearnity of stasis in the tomb of the ancients. if they have their exoskeletons they are quite challenging. gm note: and ancient one is best used as a boss at the end of an episodic adventure or a villain in a overarching campaign. frequency: very rare habitat: tomb of the ancients, other		The master race of the dark world and the would-be overlords of earth. They control the entire world and have access to the most advanced technology and weapons. they are challenging combatatnts both mentally and physically. their psionic abillities can actively subjugate the minds of those weaker than themselves although without powerered armour the ancients are weak from a etearnity of stasis in the tomb of the ancients. if they have their exoskeletons they are quite challenging. gm note: and ancient one is best used as a boss at the end of an episodic adventure or a villain in a overarching campaign. frequency: very rare habitat: tomb of the ancients, other


			===character generation resources===
			Resources for generating pc's:
			personality traits: roll 1d20:

			01-03
			Character has a sweet and bubbly personality, ideal for resisting the horrors of the dark world, or they may be extra vulnerable.
			roll 1d6 to determine resistance or vulnerability. 1-3 means vulnerable 3-6 means resistant

			04-05
			Character is weak-minded and naieve and easy to influence. minus to intel checks and is only ever able to achieve standard perception on a sensory roll. But the character gains immunity to all fear checks. but minus to resistance tests against being mentally influenced. either through drugs/magic/or word of mouth.

			06-09
			Character is mentally standard. No special effects.

			10-11
			Character is proficient with weaponry, either from past military service or hunting. Gains a plus to all tests related to firing, maintaining, or to remember knowlidge related to weapons.

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	===== Pleasure =====		===== Pleasure =====
	This is going to be a little tricky, I don't want the game to turn into FATAL, but at the same time, You don't have to be an art history major to know that HR Giger's paintings tend to have ~~an erotic~~ character to them.		This is going to be a little tricky, I don't want the game to turn into FATAL, but at the same time, You don't have to be an art history major to know that HR Giger's paintings tend to have a deviant character to them.

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	From what I saw from the original game the Dark world is roughly similar to the original world, correct? This seems like an interesting opportunity for the world because it will offer some unique opportunities for the player to take advantage of that. So for instance if we were to set up certain ground rules about the correlation between light world and dark world (for instance, lets say a road is a road, wherever you go). Players can be encouraged to explore their "light world" for the sake of preparing themselves for the dark world. This could add some interesting complications for the players because when you travel around the overworld, it can have consequences for your regular life.		From what I saw from the original game the Dark world is roughly similar to the original world, correct? This seems like an interesting opportunity for the world because it will offer some unique opportunities for the player to take advantage of that. So for instance if we were to set up certain ground rules about the correlation between light world and dark world (for instance, lets say a road is a road, wherever you go). Players can be encouraged to explore their "light world" for the sake of preparing themselves for the dark world. This could add some interesting complications for the players because when you travel around the overworld, it can have consequences for your regular life.

	For example if you are scouting around a particular block, looking for clues based on the overworld what is in the dark world, your girlfriend/wife could be concerned why you keep disappearing to the part of town where all the ~~strip~~ clubs are. Or if you become too obsessed with what you are doing, neighbors or co-workers could start to be unnerved by your behavior.		For example if you are scouting around a particular block, looking for clues based on the overworld what is in the dark world, your girlfriend/wife could be concerned why you keep disappearing to the part of town where all the clubs are. Or if you become too obsessed with what you are doing, neighbors or co-workers could start to be unnerved by your behavior.

	Additionally it could be a sort of creative aid to GMs in the same way fallout is. They could take a city or town they know well and the darkworld could be a demented parody of one.		Additionally it could be a sort of creative aid to GMs in the same way fallout is. They could take a city or town they know well and the darkworld could be a demented parody of one.
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	(Based on the fact that you cant see the alien parasite egg in Darkseed)		(Based on the fact that you cant see the alien parasite egg in Darkseed)
	:When you return to the world of light, your biomechanical objects will not be visible, but do not be fooled, it is not a bad dream. They are all still there. YOU can see them, you can feel them, you can feel them hunger.		:When you return to the world of light, your biomechanical objects will not be visible, but do not be fooled, it is not a bad dream. They are all still there. YOU can see them, you can feel them, you can feel them hunger.
			Your weapons from the dark world are not visible/do not function in the world of the light. implants dissapear and the limbs they replaced return. you will still need to feed them however

	===Initiative and detection===		===Initiative and detection===

1d4chan>Wammnebu: /* Conquest of The Ancients */

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Conquest of The Ancients

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	The dark world was peaceful before the ancients came from beyond the dark world's dimmest stars the maintainers of the peace in the dark world before The Ancients took over were the keepers. The keepers of the light, scrolls, and sword and a fourth keeper: keeper of the souls. the keeper of the souls rules the underworld of the dark world the keeper of the light holds the light, the source of good in the dark world the keeper of the scrolls holds the scrolls, the source of knowledge and wisdom for the dark world and the keeper of the sword uses the sword to keep the peace in the dark world. The keeper of the souls controls life and death in the dark world in the underworld. There is a river of blood where all of a creatures life force is dumped into the river of blood. Humans aren't so easily destroyed in the dark world humans can die up to 3 times in the dark world before finally expiring. When humans die for the first and second time in the dark world they can climb the staircase back up to the dark world proper. The Drekketh guards are the enforcers of the ancients when the ancients cant be bothered to quell a rebellion or maintain order in their enslaved dark worlders and humans. The Drekketh guards are designed to be intimidating to the maximum. They are horrifying to those unfamiliar with the creatures of the dark world. Wearing masks like skulls and carrying terrifying biomechanoid weapons. They are a force to be reckoned with. The rebellion largely died off once the keepers were executed or detained. And the resistance's best spy, goth died but the resistance is still a underground movement just it needs to regain it's strength could some light worlders join the resistance? Or couid there be a revelation where the resistance learns how to topple the ancients? only time shall tell... Privileged workers are dark worlders who chose to join the ancients and got special treatment. They get higher security clearance better food and are even in higher standing than the drekketh guards. A privileged worker access card can open almost all high-security doors and operate high-tech machinery. so if a light worlder gets a hold on it he may be more of a threat to the regime of the anicents than if he didnt have the card. Dark worlders are forced to take mandatory life force drainings called offerings.		The dark world was peaceful before the ancients came from beyond the dark world's dimmest stars the maintainers of the peace in the dark world before The Ancients took over were the keepers. The keepers of the light, scrolls, and sword and a fourth keeper: keeper of the souls. the keeper of the souls rules the underworld of the dark world the keeper of the light holds the light, the source of good in the dark world the keeper of the scrolls holds the scrolls, the source of knowledge and wisdom for the dark world and the keeper of the sword uses the sword to keep the peace in the dark world. The keeper of the souls controls life and death in the dark world in the underworld. There is a river of blood where all of a creatures life force is dumped into the river of blood. Humans aren't so easily destroyed in the dark world humans can die up to 3 times in the dark world before finally expiring. When humans die for the first and second time in the dark world they can climb the staircase back up to the dark world proper. The Drekketh guards are the enforcers of the ancients when the ancients cant be bothered to quell a rebellion or maintain order in their enslaved dark worlders and humans. The Drekketh guards are designed to be intimidating to the maximum. They are horrifying to those unfamiliar with the creatures of the dark world. Wearing masks like skulls and carrying terrifying biomechanoid weapons. They are a force to be reckoned with. The rebellion largely died off once the keepers were executed or detained. And the resistance's best spy, goth died but the resistance is still a underground movement just it needs to regain it's strength could some light worlders join the resistance? Or couid there be a revelation where the resistance learns how to topple the ancients? only time shall tell... Privileged workers are dark worlders who chose to join the ancients and got special treatment. They get higher security clearance better food and are even in higher standing than the drekketh guards. A privileged worker access card can open almost all high-security doors and operate high-tech machinery. so if a light worlder gets a hold on it he may be more of a threat to the regime of the anicents than if he didnt have the card. Dark worlders are forced to take mandatory life force drainings called offerings.
	The offerings power the stasis-crypts of the ancients. Eventually a dark worlder who drains his life force enugh will die. but not in the traditonal way. they are forced to roam the endless underworld as undead because they had no more life force to dump into the river styx. Sometimes these zombies find their way out of the underworld and they are so angry that they will attack the ancients for stealing their life force and not being able to join their ancestors in the river styx. The ancients are in stasis in the tomb of the ancients. They are waiting for their nefarious plans to come to frutition so they can rule the earth and the dark world as one their stasis crypts are powered with the life force drained from captive biomechanoids when the life force of the captives runs out the bodies are disposed of by dumping them out in the wasteland. The spirits of the departed find their way back to their bodies in the dark world and become ghouls and wander the wasteland forever. Or the souls remain trapped in the underworld and remain in limbo forever. The wasteland is the deserted area beyond the designated settlements and outposts. The wasteland used to be verdant (for the dark world) forests and plains until the ancients invasion. When the ancients invaded they used massive machines to absorb the life force of the "trees" (really just stationary nonsapient biomechanoids) and refueled their ships at the expense of the ecosystem. now the once prosperous ecosystem is now a wasteland of rocks and electro-vermin dens and the occasional ghoul. but the resistance has found the wasteland to be a exellent place to hide. goth spent his last days in his hideout in the wasteland.		The offerings power the stasis-crypts of the ancients. Eventually a dark worlder who drains his life force enugh will die. but not in the traditonal way. they are forced to roam the endless underworld as undead because they had no more life force to dump into the river styx. Sometimes these zombies find their way out of the underworld and they are so angry that they will attack the ancients for stealing their life force and not being able to join their ancestors in the river styx. The ancients are in stasis in the tomb of the ancients. They are waiting for their nefarious plans to come to frutition so they can rule the earth and the dark world as one their stasis crypts are powered with the life force drained from captive biomechanoids when the life force of the captives runs out the bodies are disposed of by dumping them out in the wasteland. The spirits of the departed find their way back to their bodies in the dark world and become ghouls and wander the wasteland forever. Or the souls remain trapped in the underworld and remain in limbo forever. The wasteland is the deserted area beyond the designated settlements and outposts. The wasteland used to be verdant (for the dark world) forests and plains until the ancients invasion. When the ancients invaded they used massive machines to absorb the life force of the "trees" (really just stationary nonsapient biomechanoids) and refueled their ships at the expense of the ecosystem. now the once prosperous ecosystem is now a wasteland of rocks and electro-vermin dens and the occasional ghoul. but the resistance has found the wasteland to be a exellent place to hide. goth spent his last days in his hideout in the wasteland.

			===The Birth Machine===
			It is the birth machine that damned the dark world. The Darkworld is built upon the union of flesh and steel, this bio-mechanical matrimony is what gives the weapon its ammunition, the device its power, and its functionality. Unlike the world of light where the material world is killed and its corpses are assembled into primitive machines to exploit the dark draws from the user as much as the device itself. The light worlders do not understand our ways, they are unnerved, but we celebrate our connection to our devices, to feel as they feel, to give a part of ourselves to the machine with whom we bonded, and to take the risks from such a union.

			This of course begs the question for many Light Worlders, what births the birth machines. There are of course living beings who have been fused and transformed into biomachines, but these are few and far between. They are often crude, and the transformed individual often is not mentally or physically prepared for such a transition, leading to breakdowns and "complications" <!---your gun having ptsd, finding out your darkworld self was forced into becoming a turret.--> Most great and beautiful machines come from the Birth Machine. These birth machines are great factories who produce the dark world. They are The Matrons of the Mechonisms. When the Ancients conquered our lands, they captured the Birth Machines, and violated them, forcing the creation of new weapons and equipment from their domineering force. Efforts to save the birth machine were tried many times by the rebels, all of which have failed. We have long since given up.

			But that is not to say we are without all hope, for their are rumors that an egg with a nascent Birth Machine, has been kept in secret. The Maiden Machine is hidden from Drekketh eyes and known only to an organization who has yet to reveal their name. They exist in whispers. They transport the Maiden across the dark world, protecting her from the Ancient ones. No one has seen these defenders in person, and they seem to only work through agents of agents of agents. Light worlders are occasionally contacted to perform services to save this birth machine. The Dark World holds hope that one day, when she is fully formed she can restore the union that made The Dark World, and aid the rebels in final victory.

			They have every reason to be cautious, because the Birth Machines ravaged by the Ancient ones are aging, their machines no longer produce what they could, and they refuse to birth another birth machine. When these machines die, the Ancient One's Empire dies with them. They must find the Birth Maidens.

	==combat==		==combat==