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	The [[Occultist]] class has a Sha'ir archetype, though it is vastly different from previous iterations and have nothing in common, beyond the Gen familiar and Genie lore.		The [[Occultist]] class has a Sha'ir archetype, though it is vastly different from previous iterations and have nothing in common, beyond the Gen familiar and Genie lore.

	The Gen, called Jin and using the statistics of small elementals minus a few features, act as occultist implements and are connected to the eight schools of magic, and one of the Air, Earth, Fire, ~~amd~~ Water schools. The Occultist gains a gen at 1st, 6th, and 14th levels. Each Jin has a spell of each of its chosen schools per level the Occultist can cast. The Jin still have to be within 30 feet to grant access to the spells.		The Gen, called Jin and using the statistics of small elementals minus a few features, act as occultist implements and are connected to the eight schools of magic, and one of the Air, Earth, Fire, and Water schools. The Occultist gains a gen at 1st, 6th, and 14th levels. Each Jin has a spell of each of its chosen schools per level the Occultist can cast. The Jin still have to be within 30 feet to grant access to the spells.

	Further levels grant the Jin the ability to use the Occultist's saving throw and halt HP if higher, to give them the features they lost temporarily and later one of them permanently, and the statistics of a large, huge, and eventually elder elemental.		Further levels grant the Jin the ability to use the Occultist's saving throw and halt HP if higher, to give them the features they lost temporarily and later one of them permanently, and the statistics of a large, huge, and eventually elder elemental.

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	[[File:genie.gif\|thumb\|right\|Jihadi [[Why Djinns Suck\|Djinn]] ]]		[[File:genie.gif\|thumb\|right\|Jihadi [[Why Djinns Suck\|Djinn]] ]]
	The '''Sha'ir''' of [[Al-Qadim]] are an odd sub-type of generally [[charisma]] based [[Wizard]]s, introduced in the Arabian Adventures splatbook for [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons\|d&d 2e]] and fleshed out more thoroughly in [[The Complete Book of\|The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook]]; they were then republished as a full class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #315 for 3e then officialized in ''Dragon Compendium''. They play as a sort of wizard-sorcerer hybrid, or a [[warlock]] if you're looking at them with 5e eyes. The [[4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons\|4th edition]] rules can be found in Heroes of the [[Elemental Chaos]].		The '''Sha'ir''' of [[Al-Qadim]] are an odd sub-type of generally [[charisma]] based [[Wizard]]s, introduced in the Arabian Adventures splatbook for [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons\|d&d 2e]] and fleshed out more thoroughly in [[The Complete Book of\|The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook]]; they were then republished as a full class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #315 for 3e then officialized in ''Dragon Compendium''. They play as a sort of wizard-sorcerer hybrid, or a [[warlock]] if you're looking at them with 5e eyes. The [[4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons\|4th edition]] rules can be found in Heroes of the [[Elemental Chaos]].

	Fluff wise, sha'irs are wizards who partner up with a lesser [[genie]], called a "gen", to work their magic. In essence, the gen works a sort of hybrid between a [[familiar]] and a stock broker; rather than having conventional spellbooks or memorizing spells themselves, a sha'ir tells their gen what spell they want to cast and then it goes zipping off into the Elemental Planes to try and "find it". For one gen, this may entail acquiring a charged magical token produced on the Elemental Planes that can be tapped into to unleash that specific spell, whilst another gen may soak up enough raw elemental magic to become a temporary "living spellscroll" for its sha'ir. As a result, sha'irs have a much larger spell list than normal wizards, and can even use divine spells.		Fluff wise, sha'irs are wizards who partner up with a lesser [[genie]], called a "gen", to work their magic. In essence, the gen works a sort of hybrid between a [[familiar]] and a stock broker; rather than having conventional spellbooks or memorizing spells themselves, a sha'ir tells their gen what spell they want to cast and then it goes zipping off into the Elemental Planes to try and "find it". For one gen, this may entail acquiring a charged magical token produced on the Elemental Planes that can be tapped into to unleash that specific spell, whilst another gen may soak up enough raw elemental magic to become a temporary "living spellscroll" for its sha'ir. As a result, sha'irs have a much larger spell list than normal wizards, and can even use divine spells.

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	[[File:genie.gif\|thumb\|right\|Jihadi [[Why Djinns Suck\|Djinn]] ]]		[[File:genie.gif\|thumb\|right\|Jihadi [[Why Djinns Suck\|Djinn]] ]]
	The '''Sha'ir''' of [[Al-Qadim]] are an odd sub-type of generally [[charisma]] based [[Wizard]]s, introduced in the Arabian Adventures splatbook for [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons\|d&d 2e]] and fleshed out more thoroughly in [[The Complete Book of\|The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook]]; they were then republished as a full class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #315 for 3e then officialized in ''Dragon Compendium''. They play as a sort of wizard-sorcerer hybrid, or a [[warlock]] if you're looking at them with 5e eyes. The [[4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons\|4th edition]] rules can be found in Heroes of the [[Elemental Chaos]].		The '''Sha'ir''' of [[Al-Qadim]] are an odd sub-type of generally [[charisma]] based [[Wizard]]s, introduced in the Arabian Adventures splatbook for [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons\|d&d 2e]] and fleshed out more thoroughly in [[The Complete Book of\|The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook]]; they were then republished as a full class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #315 for 3e then officialized in ''Dragon Compendium''. They play as a sort of wizard-sorcerer hybrid, or a [[warlock]] if you're looking at them with 5e eyes. The [[4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons\|4th edition]] rules can be found in Heroes of the [[Elemental Chaos]].

	Fluff wise, sha'irs are wizards who partner up with a lesser [[genie]], called a "gen", to work their magic. In essence, the gen works a sort of hybrid between a [[familiar]] and a stock broker; rather than having conventional spellbooks or memorizing spells themselves, a sha'ir tells their gen what spell they want to cast and then it goes zipping off into the Elemental Planes to try and "find it". For one gen, this may entail acquiring a charged magical token produced on the Elemental Planes that can be tapped into to unleash that specific spell, whilst another gen may soak up enough raw elemental magic to become a temporary "living spellscroll" for its sha'ir. As a result, sha'irs have a much larger spell list than normal wizards, and can even use divine spells.		Fluff wise, sha'irs are wizards who partner up with a lesser [[genie]], called a "gen", to work their magic. In essence, the gen works a sort of hybrid between a [[familiar]] and a stock broker; rather than having conventional spellbooks or memorizing spells themselves, a sha'ir tells their gen what spell they want to cast and then it goes zipping off into the Elemental Planes to try and "find it". For one gen, this may entail acquiring a charged magical token produced on the Elemental Planes that can be tapped into to unleash that specific spell, whilst another gen may soak up enough raw elemental magic to become a temporary "living spellscroll" for its sha'ir. As a result, sha'irs have a much larger spell list than normal wizards, and can even use divine spells.

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	They also modify Outside contact, granting the Jin the ability to perform these tasks without the need to bribe them, but the Occultist loses the ability to cast that Jin's spells for the duration.		They also modify Outside contact, granting the Jin the ability to perform these tasks without the need to bribe them, but the Occultist loses the ability to cast that Jin's spells for the duration.

	In return for all of this they do not get resonant powers.		In return for all of this they do not get resonant powers for the elemental schools.

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	They also modify Outside contact, granting the Jin the ability to perform these tasks without the need to bribe them, but the Occultist loses the ability to cast that Jin's spells for the duration.		They also modify Outside contact, granting the Jin the ability to perform these tasks without the need to bribe them, but the Occultist loses the ability to cast that Jin's spells for the duration.

			In return for all of this they do not get resonant powers.

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	Depending on how well you rolled your stats, they could be '''hilariously''' overpowered, with the ability to cast any spell (like a wizard) at any time (like a sorcerer).		Depending on how well you rolled your stats, they could be '''hilariously''' overpowered, with the ability to cast any spell (like a wizard) at any time (like a sorcerer).

	They don't get access to all [[Cleric]] spells in this edition either, just the "domain spells" from the [[Cleric Domain]]s of Air, Chaos, Earth, Fire, Knowledge, Law, Luck, Sun, and Water.		They don't get access to all [[Cleric]] spells in this edition either, just the "domain spells" from the [[Cleric Domain]]s of Air, Chaos, Earth, Fire, Knowledge, Law, Luck, Sun, and Water. All Wizard spells of 6th or lower of the Jin's element are considered to be on the Occultist's spell list.


			====Pathfinder====
			The [[Occultist]] class has a Sha'ir archetype, though it is vastly different from previous iterations and have nothing in common, beyond the Gen familiar and Genie lore.

			The Gen, called Jin and using the statistics of small elementals minus a few features, act as occultist implements and are connected to the eight schools of magic, and one of the Air, Earth, Fire, amd Water schools. The Occultist gains a gen at 1st, 6th, and 14th levels. Each Jin has a spell of each of its chosen schools per level the Occultist can cast. The Jin still have to be within 30 feet to grant access to the spells.

			Further levels grant the Jin the ability to use the Occultist's saving throw and halt HP if higher, to give them the features they lost temporarily and later one of them permanently, and the statistics of a large, huge, and eventually elder elemental.

			They also modify Outside contact, granting the Jin the ability to perform these tasks without the need to bribe them, but the Occultist loses the ability to cast that Jin's spells for the duration.

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	Aside from those core mechanic tweaks, Sha'irs are literally just wizards. That's it. Even [[Bladesinger]]s had more complex rules than them. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing.		Aside from those core mechanic tweaks, Sha'irs are literally just wizards. That's it. Even [[Bladesinger]]s had more complex rules than them. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing.

			==5e==
			While 5e doesn't have a specific Sha'ir, the Genie Warlock takes that place. It is quite different from the other iterations, with a free vessel that acts as a house, bonus damage, resistance similar to the 4e Sha'ir, the lack of a Gen familiar, and not retrieving spells. The only thing that makes it even remotely similar is the Genie connection and the ability to cast any 6th or lower level spell with a casting time of one action once per 1d4 days.

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	Firstly, because all of the power comes from the gen, a sha'ir can only have '''one''' spell to hand at a time, and then their gen has to go and find another spell.		Firstly, because all of the power comes from the gen, a sha'ir can only have '''one''' spell to hand at a time, and then their gen has to go and find another spell.

	Secondly, a gen can only hold the power for a spell for three turns, after which it loses the spell whether it was cast or not. Thirdly, retrieving a spell takes time (1d6+level of the spell); this ranges from rounds ("native" spells) to turns ("universal" spells) to ''hours'' (priest spells, foreign wizard spells) -- this is, needless to say, problematic if you're in the middle of a fight.		Secondly, a gen can only hold the power for a spell for three turns, after which it loses the spell whether it was cast or not.

			Thirdly, retrieving a spell takes time (1d6+level of the spell); this ranges from rounds ("native" spells) to turns ("universal" spells) to ''hours'' (priest spells, foreign wizard spells) -- this is, needless to say, problematic if you're in the middle of a fight.

	Fourthly, gens never have more than an 89% chance of retrieving the spell asked for, meaning all that time may be ultimately wasted.		Fourthly, gens never have more than an 89% chance of retrieving the spell asked for, meaning all that time may be ultimately wasted.

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	[[File:genie.gif\|thumb\|right\|Jihadi [[Why Djinns Suck\|Djinn]] ]]		[[File:genie.gif\|thumb\|right\|Jihadi [[Why Djinns Suck\|Djinn]] ]]
	The '''Sha'ir''' of [[Al-Qadim]] are an odd sub-type of generally [[charisma]] based [[Wizard]]s, introduced in the Arabian Adventures splatbook for [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons\|d&d 2e]] and fleshed out more thoroughly in [[The Complete Book of\|The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook]]; they were then republished as a full class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #315 for 3e. They play as a sort of wizard-sorcerer hybrid, or a [[warlock]] if you're looking at them with 5e eyes. The [[4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons\|4th edition]] rules can be found in Heroes of the [[Elemental Chaos]].		The '''Sha'ir''' of [[Al-Qadim]] are an odd sub-type of generally [[charisma]] based [[Wizard]]s, introduced in the Arabian Adventures splatbook for [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons\|d&d 2e]] and fleshed out more thoroughly in [[The Complete Book of\|The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook]]; they were then republished as a full class in [[Dragon Magazine]] #315 for 3e then officialized in ''Dragon Compendium''. They play as a sort of wizard-sorcerer hybrid, or a [[warlock]] if you're looking at them with 5e eyes. The [[4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons\|4th edition]] rules can be found in Heroes of the [[Elemental Chaos]].

	Fluff wise, sha'irs are wizards who partner up with a lesser [[genie]], called a "gen", to work their magic. In essence, the gen works a sort of hybrid between a [[familiar]] and a stock broker; rather than having conventional spellbooks or memorizing spells themselves, a sha'ir tells their gen what spell they want to cast and then it goes zipping off into the Elemental Planes to try and "find it". For one gen, this may entail acquiring a charged magical token produced on the Elemental Planes that can be tapped into to unleash that specific spell, whilst another gen may soak up enough raw elemental magic to become a temporary "living spellscroll" for its sha'ir. As a result, sha'irs have a much larger spell list than normal wizards, and can even use divine spells.		Fluff wise, sha'irs are wizards who partner up with a lesser [[genie]], called a "gen", to work their magic. In essence, the gen works a sort of hybrid between a [[familiar]] and a stock broker; rather than having conventional spellbooks or memorizing spells themselves, a sha'ir tells their gen what spell they want to cast and then it goes zipping off into the Elemental Planes to try and "find it". For one gen, this may entail acquiring a charged magical token produced on the Elemental Planes that can be tapped into to unleash that specific spell, whilst another gen may soak up enough raw elemental magic to become a temporary "living spellscroll" for its sha'ir. As a result, sha'irs have a much larger spell list than normal wizards, and can even use divine spells.