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	One of the most popular things Shamans are known for is their ability to summon various creatures. What a shaman can summon depends on his dedication to the art and luck. Most creatures summoned by the average shaman will look half put together and often gruesome, adding on a small fear factor to the otherwise smaller and less intimidating shaman. Occasionally you'll run into a more accomplished one who can summon all sorts of things; if it doesn't look like it'll kill you, '''''run'''''.		One of the most popular things Shamans are known for is their ability to summon various creatures. What a shaman can summon depends on his dedication to the art and luck. Most creatures summoned by the average shaman will look half put together and often gruesome, adding on a small fear factor to the otherwise smaller and less intimidating shaman. Occasionally you'll run into a more accomplished one who can summon all sorts of things; if it doesn't look like it'll kill you, '''''run'''''.

	~~In group mechanics, shamans~~ are most likely used for their buffing and healing abilities. The buffs shamans have to offer span everything the elements touch, from boosts to resistances. While their healing abilities aren't top of the line, it's hard to argue against someone who can also summon a creature that will eat you.		Shamans are most likely used in group mechanics for their buffing and healing abilities. The buffs shamans have to offer span everything the elements touch, from boosts to resistances. While their healing abilities aren't top of the line, it's hard to argue against someone who can also summon a creature that will eat you.

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	Compared directly to its origin classes:		Compared directly to its origin classes:
	Oracles have more spells per day coming from the far superior [[Cleric]] spell list, and the Revelations granted by its Mysteries are generally considered to be more powerful than Shaman hexes. However, the Shaman hexes/abilities come at a much increased rate over Revelations, gaining ten hexes, four spirit abilities and three wandering abilities over the course of a 20 level career; compared to seven Revelations and the variable benefits/drawbacks of the Oracle's Curse feature, meaning that Shamans are practically rolling in class features that can come from two different sources, making them far more versatile.		Oracles have more spells per day coming from the far superior [[Cleric]] spell list, and the Revelations granted by its Mysteries are generally considered to be more powerful than Shaman hexes. However, the Shaman hexes/abilities come at a much-increased rate over Revelations, gaining ten hexes, four spirit abilities and three wandering abilities over the course of a 20 level career; compared to seven Revelations and the variable benefits/drawbacks of the Oracle's Curse feature, meaning that Shamans are practically rolling in class features that can come from two different sources, making them far more versatile.

	Witches also use a superior spellcasting list and gain access to much better Hexes in the second half of their progression. Though Shamans have meatier BAB & HD, can cast more times per day ''(thanks to the extra Spirit spell slot)'', aren't hampered by Arcane Failure chance, and their spirit familiar will usually be superior to a witch familiar unless the Witch chooses Improved Familiar at some point.		Witches also use a superior spellcasting list and gain access to much better Hexes in the second half of their progression. Though Shamans have meatier BAB & HD, can cast more times per day ''(thanks to the extra Spirit spell slot)'', aren't hampered by Arcane Failure chance, and their spirit familiar will usually be superior to a witch familiar unless the Witch chooses Improved Familiar at some point.

	[[Summoner]]s and Oracles have archetypes that trade some class features to take parts of the Spirit feature from the Shaman class to potentially make something even greater than the sum of their parts. Though because the Shaman still gets rapid early access to multiple class features, it is probably more suitable as for [[multiclassing]] and [[~~prestige class~~]] combinations.		[[Summoner]]s and Oracles have archetypes that trade some class features to take parts of the Spirit feature from the Shaman class to potentially make something even greater than the sum of their parts. Though because the Shaman still gets rapid early access to multiple class features, it is probably more suitable for [[multiclassing]] and [[Prestige Class]] combinations.

	Extra notes go out to ~~the~~ use of the Wandering Hex ability and the Lore spirit. ~~At the start of the day, you~~ can trade out your wandering hex. One of the hexes for the lore spirit allows you to add wizard spells to your list to prepare. You can add any wizard spells to your list. The wandering hex lets you trade them out day by day. Essentially, you've got the entire wizard spell list, alongside your own. The cost is that you need Intelligence, Wisdom, AND Charisma for this ability, but it's a fair trade if you can get your stats high enough.		Extra notes go out to use the Wandering Hex ability and the Lore spirit. You can trade out your wandering hex at the start of the day. One of the hexes for the lore spirit allows you to add wizard spells to your list to prepare. You can add any wizard spells to your list. The wandering hex lets you trade them out day by day. Essentially, you've got the entire wizard spell list, alongside your own. The cost is that you need Intelligence, Wisdom, AND Charisma for this ability, but it's a fair trade if you can get your stats high enough.

	Generally, like [[Investigator]], Shaman doesn't really do anything to establish itself as different than just playing one of the parent classes or [[Cleric]], especially since it has a weak and proprietary spell list while being powered by MAD. It's still a full caster with ninth level spells and is thus [[Tier System\|at least tier 2, likely closer to 1 with the ease it can poach spells]], and the ability to swap class features from day to day can make it very versatile. Like [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] it shows the sheer power of spellcasting by putting it on a class that the designer had no idea what they were doing and coming out really powerful.		Generally, like [[Investigator]], Shaman doesn't really do anything to establish itself as different than just playing one of the parent classes or [[Cleric]], especially since it has a weak and proprietary spell list while being powered by MAD. It's still a full caster with ninth level spells and is thus [[Tier System\|at least tier 2, likely closer to 1 with the ease it can poach spells]], and the ability to swap class features from day to day can make it very versatile. Like [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] it shows the sheer power of spellcasting by putting it on a class that the designer had no idea what they were doing and coming out really powerful.

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	Even the [[human]]s ultimately got in on the Shaman bandwagon with the Atruaghin (American Indian stand-ins) getting the '''Shamani''' in their issue of the Known World Gazetteer. This variant [[Cleric]] can only use leather armor (which all Atruaghin are restricted to anyway), can't use metal weapons, and has the [[Wizard\|Magic User's]] attack progression, but wields a mixture of [[cleric]], [[druid]], [[Wizard\|magic-user]] and unique spells in exchange for that.		Even the [[human]]s ultimately got in on the Shaman bandwagon with the Atruaghin (American Indian stand-ins) getting the '''Shamani''' in their issue of the Known World Gazetteer. This variant [[Cleric]] can only use leather armor (which all Atruaghin are restricted to anyway), can't use metal weapons, and has the [[Wizard\|Magic User's]] attack progression, but wields a mixture of [[cleric]], [[druid]], [[Wizard\|magic-user]] and unique spells in exchange for that.

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	[[File:Shaman turn undead PHBR14.jpg\|left\|100px]]		[[File:Shaman turn undead PHBR14.jpg\|left\|100px]]
	[[File:Shaman centaur PHBR10.jpg\|right\|300px]]		[[File:Shaman centaur PHBR10.jpg\|right\|300px]]

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	Thematically, they overlap a lot with [[Druid]]s, but haven't managed to gain the same level of recognition as them.		Thematically, they overlap a lot with [[Druid]]s, but haven't managed to gain the same level of recognition as them.

	==~~BECMI~~==		==Dungeons & Dragons==
			===Basic===
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	In BECMI, the Shaman first debuted as the "Humanoid [[Cleric]]", a simplified, "thematically appropriate" version of the [[Cleric]] that could be applied to various non-[[demihuman]] [[monster]] races, such as [[orc]]s and [[goblinoid]]s. Aside from a slightly different mechanic of progression, involving increasing the basic EXP needed for the humanoid to advance in its racial class, the shaman used the same general rules as the cleric, but its spell list was altered to fit its motif as the "savage" equivalent. The shaman first debuted in the Master's Edition DMG.		In BECMI, the Shaman first debuted as the "Humanoid [[Cleric]]", a simplified, "thematically appropriate" version of the [[Cleric]] that could be applied to various non-[[demihuman]] [[monster]] races, such as [[orc]]s and [[goblinoid]]s. Aside from a slightly different mechanic of progression, involving increasing the basic EXP needed for the humanoid to advance in its racial class, the shaman used the same general rules as the cleric, but its spell list was altered to fit its motif as the "savage" equivalent. The shaman first debuted in the Master's Edition DMG.
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	Even the [[human]]s ultimately got in on the Shaman bandwagon with the Atruaghin (American Indian stand-ins) getting the '''Shamani''' in their issue of the Known World Gazetteer. This variant [[Cleric]] can only use leather armor (which all Atruaghin are restricted to anyway), can't use metal weapons, and has the [[Wizard\|Magic User's]] attack progression, but wields a mixture of [[cleric]], [[druid]], [[Wizard\|magic-user]] and unique spells in exchange for that.		Even the [[human]]s ultimately got in on the Shaman bandwagon with the Atruaghin (American Indian stand-ins) getting the '''Shamani''' in their issue of the Known World Gazetteer. This variant [[Cleric]] can only use leather armor (which all Atruaghin are restricted to anyway), can't use metal weapons, and has the [[Wizard\|Magic User's]] attack progression, but wields a mixture of [[cleric]], [[druid]], [[Wizard\|magic-user]] and unique spells in exchange for that.

	==~~AD&D~~==		===Second===
	[[File:Shaman turn undead PHBR14.jpg\|left\|100px]]		[[File:Shaman turn undead PHBR14.jpg\|left\|100px]]
	[[File:Shaman centaur PHBR10.jpg\|right\|300px]]		[[File:Shaman centaur PHBR10.jpg\|right\|300px]]
	Shamans appeared in [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons]] ~~2nd edition~~, alongside the [[Barbarian]], in the [[splatbook]] [[Complete Book Series\|"The Complete Barbarian's Handbook"]]. It was a variant [[Cleric]], much like how the [[Barbarian]] of that edition was a variant [[Fighter]], and had the same "pre-Iron Age" cultural baggage. Its abilities boiled down to increased mobility, with similar (but less effective) climbing, running and leaping bonuses as to the ~~barbarian~~. It can't [[Turn Undead]] unless it worships a deity with some control over the dead, and even then it does so at a lesser ability compared to the normal cleric. It also doesn't get bonus spells for high wisdom, can't use scrolls due to being illiterate (at least initially), and is in general a really shitty, underpowered class.		Shamans appeared in [[Advanced Dungeons & Dragons#AD&D 2nd Edition\|Advanced Dungeons & Dragons' 2nd Edition]], alongside the [[Barbarian]], in the [[splatbook]] [[Complete Book Series\|"The Complete Barbarian's Handbook"]]. It was a variant [[Cleric]], much like how the [[Barbarian]] of that edition was a variant [[Fighter]], and had the same "pre-Iron Age" cultural baggage.<br>
			Its abilities boiled down to increased mobility, with similar (but less effective) climbing, running and leaping bonuses as to the Barbarian. It can't [[Turn Undead]] unless it worships a deity with some control over the dead, and even then it does so at a lesser ability compared to the normal cleric. It also doesn't get bonus spells for high wisdom, can't use scrolls due to being illiterate (at least initially), and is in general a really shitty, underpowered class.

	An alternative version of the Shaman was one of the [[kits]] introduced in [[Complete Book Series\|The Complete Book of Humanoids]], as one of the [[Cleric]] kits. This version was no less shitty, being a physically frailer (D6 hit dice instead of D8) [[cleric]] with watered down spellcasting, no ability to [[Turn Undead]], and forsaking all of the [[Raise Dead]] spells for access to the far less useful [[Reincarnation]] spell instead. The [[Witch Doctor]] appeared in the same book as a variant Shaman with some limited access to [[Wizard]] spells. It was, somehow, even worse than the shaman was.		An alternative version of the Shaman was one of the [[kits]] introduced in [[Complete Book Series\|The Complete Book of Humanoids]], as one of the [[Cleric]] kits. This version was no less shitty, being a physically frailer (D6 hit dice instead of D8) [[cleric]] with watered down spellcasting, no ability to [[Turn Undead]], and forsaking all of the [[Raise Dead]] spells for access to the far less useful [[Reincarnation]] spell instead. The [[Witch Doctor]] appeared in the same book as a variant Shaman with some limited access to [[Wizard]] spells. It was, somehow, even worse than the shaman was.

	[[Dragon Magazine]] ~~#251~~ introduced another kit-based shaman type caster in the form of the [[Obeah]].		[[Dragon Magazine\|Dragon Magazine #251]] introduced another kit-based shaman type caster in the form of the [[Obeah]].

	==3rd Edition ~~D&D~~==		===3rd Edition===
	''Not to be confused with the [[Spirit Shaman]] or the [[Dragon Shaman]], as those classes both work in entirely different ways. ''		''Not to be confused with the [[Spirit Shaman]] or the [[Dragon Shaman]], as those classes both work in entirely different ways. ''
	[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]		[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]
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	The Dragon #318 update of them to 3.5 gave them a minor boon in making their unarmed strike scale like a Monk's. Otherwise it just updates their bonus feat options to reflect 3.5's changes.		The Dragon #318 update of them to 3.5 gave them a minor boon in making their unarmed strike scale like a Monk's. Otherwise it just updates their bonus feat options to reflect 3.5's changes.

	==d20 Modern==		{{D&D3-Classes}}

			====d20 Modern====
	''[[D20 Past]]'' introduces an Advanced Class named Shaman that's actually the 3rd Edition [[Druid]] in all but name. Like every other spellcaster in the system, its one of the better classes. For the details, see the Druid article.		''[[D20 Past]]'' introduces an Advanced Class named Shaman that's actually the 3rd Edition [[Druid]] in all but name. Like every other spellcaster in the system, its one of the better classes. For the details, see the Druid article.

	==4th Edition ~~D&D~~==		===4th Edition===
	[[File:Shaman 4e.jpg\|right\|100px]]		[[File:Shaman 4e.jpg\|right\|100px]]
	Like a [[Warlord]], but less cool and more primitive. Basically, you chant and war dance buffs onto other PCs, while summoning animal spirits.The primary advantage of the Shaman is the very clunky and somewhat broken summoned animal, which is nearly impossible for monsters to destroy. Additionally, the healing mechanic for the shaman gets around the 'use a [[Healing surge]] to heal' paradigm, which breaks an important aspect of the game.		Like a [[Warlord]], but less cool and more primitive. Basically, you chant and war dance buffs onto other PCs, while summoning animal spirits.The primary advantage of the Shaman is the very clunky and somewhat broken summoned animal, which is nearly impossible for monsters to destroy. Additionally, the healing mechanic for the shaman gets around the 'use a [[Healing surge]] to heal' paradigm, which breaks an important aspect of the game.
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	In group mechanics, shamans are most likely used for their buffing and healing abilities. The buffs shamans have to offer span everything the elements touch, from boosts to resistances. While their healing abilities aren't top of the line, it's hard to argue against someone who can also summon a creature that will eat you.		In group mechanics, shamans are most likely used for their buffing and healing abilities. The buffs shamans have to offer span everything the elements touch, from boosts to resistances. While their healing abilities aren't top of the line, it's hard to argue against someone who can also summon a creature that will eat you.

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	==Pathfinder==		==Pathfinder==
	[[File:Shaman visionary.jpg\|~~right~~\|300px]]		===1st Edition===
			[[File:Shaman visionary.jpg\|left\|300px]]
	[[File:Shardra Geltl.jpg\|right\|300px\|link=Trap]]		[[File:Shardra Geltl.jpg\|right\|300px\|link=Trap]]
	Shamans are a hybrid class, combining some of the features of the [[Witch]] and [[Oracle]] classes.		Shamans are a hybrid class, combining some of the features of the [[Witch]] and [[Oracle]] classes.
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	Generally, like [[Investigator]], Shaman doesn't really do anything to establish itself as different than just playing one of the parent classes or [[Cleric]], especially since it has a weak and proprietary spell list while being powered by MAD. It's still a full caster with ninth level spells and is thus [[Tier System\|at least tier 2, likely closer to 1 with the ease it can poach spells]], and the ability to swap class features from day to day can make it very versatile. Like [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] it shows the sheer power of spellcasting by putting it on a class that the designer had no idea what they were doing and coming out really powerful.		Generally, like [[Investigator]], Shaman doesn't really do anything to establish itself as different than just playing one of the parent classes or [[Cleric]], especially since it has a weak and proprietary spell list while being powered by MAD. It's still a full caster with ninth level spells and is thus [[Tier System\|at least tier 2, likely closer to 1 with the ease it can poach spells]], and the ability to swap class features from day to day can make it very versatile. Like [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]] it shows the sheer power of spellcasting by putting it on a class that the designer had no idea what they were doing and coming out really powerful.

	~~{{D&D3-Classes}}~~
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	== Shadowrun ==		== Shadowrun ==

	Outside of D&D, one of the main places you can get your Shaman on is [[Shadowrun]]. Shamen are Charisma casters who usually focus on summoning and persuading spirits, as opposed to Mages more logical approach.		Outside of D&D, one of the main places you can get your Shaman on is [[Shadowrun]]. Shamen are Charisma casters who usually focus on summoning and persuading spirits, as opposed to Mages more logical approach.

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	[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]		[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]
	[[File:Shaman OA Dragon 318.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|''Dragon #318''. Our monkey mage got a lot more badass. His class, sadly, did not.]]		[[File:Shaman OA Dragon 318.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|''Dragon #318''. Our monkey mage got a lot more badass. His class, sadly, did not.]]
	The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which ~~require~~ you play in ~~either~~ a single obscure campaign setting ~~setting,~~ or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.		The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is the [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which requires you to either play in a single obscure campaign setting or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.

	Compared to the Cleric, the Shaman suffers a smaller hit die, loses medium and heavy armor proficiencies, and has weaker turn/rebuke. In exchange, it gets a third domain at level 11 and a random grab-bag of useless bullshit: an animal companion, the ability to see ethereal creatures, a charisma-based boost to saving throws, and some martial bonus feats. OA basically took the Cleric, made it more [[monk]]-like and [[MAD\|more dependent on constitution and dexterity in order to not die]], and [[fail\|forgot to give it Flurry of Blows, their wisdom bonus to AC, or any of the other things that were supposed to make monks work]].		Compared to the Cleric, the Shaman suffers a smaller hit die, loses medium and heavy armor proficiencies, and has weaker turn/rebuke. In exchange, it gets a third domain at level 11 and a random grab-bag of useless bullshit: an animal companion, the ability to see ethereal creatures, a charisma-based boost to saving throws, and some martial bonus feats. OA basically took the Cleric, made it more [[monk]]-like and [[MAD\|more dependent on constitution and dexterity in order to not die]], and [[fail\|forgot to give it Flurry of Blows, their wisdom bonus to AC, or any of the other things that were supposed to make monks work]].

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	==BECMI==		==BECMI==
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	In BECMI, the Shaman first debuted as the "Humanoid [[Cleric]]", a simplified, "thematically appropriate" version of the [[Cleric]] that could be applied to various non-[[demihuman]] [[monster]] races, such as [[orc]]s and [[goblinoid]]s. Aside from a slightly different mechanic of progression, involving increasing the basic EXP needed for the humanoid to advance in its racial class, the shaman used the same general rules as the cleric, but its spell list was altered to fit its motif as the "savage" equivalent. The shaman first debuted in the Master's Edition DMG.		In BECMI, the Shaman first debuted as the "Humanoid [[Cleric]]", a simplified, "thematically appropriate" version of the [[Cleric]] that could be applied to various non-[[demihuman]] [[monster]] races, such as [[orc]]s and [[goblinoid]]s. Aside from a slightly different mechanic of progression, involving increasing the basic EXP needed for the humanoid to advance in its racial class, the shaman used the same general rules as the cleric, but its spell list was altered to fit its motif as the "savage" equivalent. The shaman first debuted in the Master's Edition DMG.

			Whilst initially associated with the "humanoids", it also became a popular alternative for clerics for non-human races in general; [[elf\|elves]], [[pixie]]s, [[sprite]]s, [[centaur]]s, and so forth.

			Even the [[human]]s ultimately got in on the Shaman bandwagon with the Atruaghin (American Indian stand-ins) getting the '''Shamani''' in their issue of the Known World Gazetteer. This variant [[Cleric]] can only use leather armor (which all Atruaghin are restricted to anyway), can't use metal weapons, and has the [[Wizard\|Magic User's]] attack progression, but wields a mixture of [[cleric]], [[druid]], [[Wizard\|magic-user]] and unique spells in exchange for that.

	==AD&D==		==AD&D==

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	==d20 Modern==		==d20 Modern==
	[[D20 Past]] introduces ~~a class~~ named Shaman that's actually the 3rd Edition Druid in all but name.		''[[D20 Past]]'' introduces an Advanced Class named Shaman that's actually the 3rd Edition [[Druid]] in all but name. Like every other spellcaster in the system, its one of the better classes. For the details, see the Druid article.

	==4th Edition D&D==		==4th Edition D&D==
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	Shamans are a hybrid class, combining some of the features of the [[Witch]] and [[Oracle]] classes.		Shamans are a hybrid class, combining some of the features of the [[Witch]] and [[Oracle]] classes.

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	''Not to be confused with the [[Spirit Shaman]] or the [[Dragon Shaman]], as those classes both work in entirely different ways. ''		''Not to be confused with the [[Spirit Shaman]] or the [[Dragon Shaman]], as those classes both work in entirely different ways. ''
	[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]		[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]
	[[File:Shaman OA Dragon 318.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|''Dragon #318''. Our monkey mage got a lot more badass]]		[[File:Shaman OA Dragon 318.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|''Dragon #318''. Our monkey mage got a lot more badass. His class, sadly, did not.]]
	The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which require you play in either a single obscure campaign setting setting, or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.		The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which require you play in either a single obscure campaign setting setting, or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.

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	==3rd Edition D&D==		==3rd Edition D&D==
	''Not to be confused with the [[Spirit Shaman]] or the [[Dragon Shaman]], as those classes both work in entirely different ways. ''		''Not to be confused with the [[Spirit Shaman]] or the [[Dragon Shaman]], as those classes both work in entirely different ways. ''
	[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px]]		[[File:Shaman OA 3e.jpg\|left\|300px\|thumb\|''Oriental Adventures'']]
			[[File:Shaman OA Dragon 318.jpg\|right\|300px\|thumb\|''Dragon #318''. Our monkey mage got a lot more badass]]
	The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which require you play in either a single obscure campaign setting setting, or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.		The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which require you play in either a single obscure campaign setting setting, or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.

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	The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which ~~require~~ you play in ~~either~~ a single obscure campaign setting ~~setting,~~ or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.		The 3rd Edition Shaman class was released in the '''Oriental Adventures''' sourcebook as a replacement for [[Cleric]]s, since those were not considered particularly "Oriental". It's likely the most obscure 3E base class since it's one of only three and a half to be printed in 3.0 only, and OA [[Samurai]] constantly gets attention for being noticeably better than the class of the same name from Complete Warrior. It's biggest competitor is the [[Eidolon (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Eidolon/Eidoloncer]], which requires you to either play in a single obscure campaign setting or implement some heavy baggage of that setting into your own. In Shaman's favor here is that it's not actually possible to take all 20 levels of Eidolon before epic, bringing its stats as a base class into question despite being described as one.

	Compared to the Cleric, the Shaman suffers a smaller hit die, loses medium and heavy armor proficiencies, and has weaker turn/rebuke. In exchange, it gets a third domain at level 11 and a random grab-bag of useless bullshit: an animal companion, the ability to see ethereal creatures, a charisma-based boost to saving throws, and some martial bonus feats. OA basically took the Cleric, made it more [[monk]]-like and [[MAD\|more dependent on constitution and dexterity in order to not die]], and [[fail\|forgot to give it Flurry of Blows, their wisdom bonus to AC, or any of the other things that were supposed to make monks work]].		Compared to the Cleric, the Shaman suffers a smaller hit die, loses medium and heavy armor proficiencies, and has weaker turn/rebuke. In exchange, it gets a third domain at level 11 and a random grab-bag of useless bullshit: an animal companion, the ability to see ethereal creatures, a charisma-based boost to saving throws, and some martial bonus feats. OA basically took the Cleric, made it more [[monk]]-like and [[MAD\|more dependent on constitution and dexterity in order to not die]], and [[fail\|forgot to give it Flurry of Blows, their wisdom bonus to AC, or any of the other things that were supposed to make monks work]].