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	Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH.png\| it was not until 4 Apocalypse were you got another go at this asshole		Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH.png\| it was not until 4 Apocalypse were you got another go at this asshole
	Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH phase 2.jpeg\| now with more yellow old man faces		Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH phase 2.jpeg\| now with more yellow old man faces
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	SMT Demon negotiations.jpeg\|SMT Demon negotiations in a nutshell.		SMT Demon negotiations.jpeg\|SMT Demon negotiations in a nutshell.
	Shin Magami Tensei 2 YHVH.gif\|the among the first JRPG in 2 where you can kill the Definitive YHVH GOD.		Shin Magami Tensei 2 YHVH.gif\|the among the first JRPG in 2 where you can kill the Definitive YHVH GOD.
	Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH.png\| it was not until 4 Apocalypse were you ~~get~~ another go at this asshole		Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH.png\| it was not until 4 Apocalypse were you got another go at this asshole
	Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH phase 2.jpeg		Shin Magami Tensei Apocalypse YHVH phase 2.jpeg\| now with more yellow old man faces
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			{{Topquote\|Redpill me on SMT. What's it about?<br>It's Pokemon, but replace Pikachu with your dog, Professor Oak with Stephen Hawking and Gary with The Abrahamic God.''\|Two anons on [[/v/]]}}

	'''Shin Megami Tensei''', often abbreviated as "Megaten", is a series of roleplaying videogames inspired by the sci-fi novel series ''Digital Devil Story'' written by Aya Nishitani that are described here because a) they're really good [[Urban Fantasy]] games, and b) there is an official SMT tabletop RPG in Japan, though it has yet to be translated.		'''Shin Megami Tensei''', often abbreviated as "Megaten", is a series of roleplaying videogames inspired by the sci-fi novel series ''Digital Devil Story'' written by Aya Nishitani that are described here because a) they're really good [[Urban Fantasy]] games, and b) there is an official SMT tabletop RPG in Japan, though it has yet to be translated.

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	*Devil Survivor: Pair of strategic RPGs. Disaster strikes and you need to find a way to survive and prevent future deaths with the help of a device that can either tell you how many days you have left (first game) or being able to view a death that has yet to happen (second).		*Devil Survivor: Pair of strategic RPGs. Disaster strikes and you need to find a way to survive and prevent future deaths with the help of a device that can either tell you how many days you have left (first game) or being able to view a death that has yet to happen (second).

	** Soul Hackers: a ~~sub-~~series ~~of Devil Survivor (the second game~~ is ~~straight-up known only as ''Soul Hackers 2'', making its own spin-off sub~~-~~series) which takes place~~ in ~~a [[Cyberpunk]] future inside a virtual reality~~.		*Devil Summoner: Series of games taking place in an alternate timeline where the apocalypse in SMT 1 never happened with more of an urban fantasy approach. Has a subseries in itself in the Raidou Kuzunoha series, which is about a demon-summoning detective in 1920s Japan.

	*Devil Summoner~~: Series of games taking~~ place in ~~an alternate timeline where the apocalypse in SMT 1 never happened with more of an urban fantasy approach. Has~~ a ~~subseries in itself in the Raido Kuzunoha series, which is about~~ a ~~demon-summoning detective in 1920s Japan~~.		** Soul Hackers: a sub-series of Devil Summoner (the second game is straight-up known only as ''Soul Hackers 2'', making its own spin-off sub-series) which takes place in a [[Cyberpunk]] future inside a virtual reality.

	*Devil Children: Kid-friendly spinoff because ATLUS apparently wanted that Pokemon money.		*Devil Children: Kid-friendly spinoff because ATLUS apparently wanted that Pokemon money.

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	*Devil Survivor: Pair of strategic RPGs. Disaster strikes and you need to find a way to survive and prevent future deaths with the help of a device that can either tell you how many days you have left (first game) or being able to view a death that has yet to happen (second).		*Devil Survivor: Pair of strategic RPGs. Disaster strikes and you need to find a way to survive and prevent future deaths with the help of a device that can either tell you how many days you have left (first game) or being able to view a death that has yet to happen (second).

			** Soul Hackers: a sub-series of Devil Survivor (the second game is straight-up known only as ''Soul Hackers 2'', making its own spin-off sub-series) which takes place in a [[Cyberpunk]] future inside a virtual reality.

	*Devil Summoner: Series of games taking place in an alternate timeline where the apocalypse in SMT 1 never happened with more of an urban fantasy approach. Has a subseries in itself in the Raido Kuzunoha series, which is about a demon-summoning detective in 1920s Japan.		*Devil Summoner: Series of games taking place in an alternate timeline where the apocalypse in SMT 1 never happened with more of an urban fantasy approach. Has a subseries in itself in the Raido Kuzunoha series, which is about a demon-summoning detective in 1920s Japan.

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	==Social Links: The Power of Intimacy==		==Social Links: The Power of Intimacy==
	One of the defining differences mechanically between the core SMT games and the Persona spin-offs, at least from Persona onwards, is the presence of the Social Link mechanic. Basically, scattered throughout the game-world are various NPCs who represent different Major Arcanas in the [[Tarot]], by repeatedly interacting with them, you will increase your affinity for that Major Arcana, climbing levels until you max out that Social Link's potency at level 10. To get the good ending for any Persona game, you need to max out all the Social Links before the in-game timer reaches the end.		One of the defining differences mechanically between the core SMT games and the Persona spin-offs, at least from Persona 3 onwards, is the presence of the Social Link mechanic. Basically, scattered throughout the game-world are various NPCs who represent different Major Arcanas in the [[Tarot]], by repeatedly interacting with them, you will increase your affinity for that Major Arcana, climbing levels until you max out that Social Link's potency at level 10. To get the good ending for any Persona game, you need to max out all the Social Links before the in-game timer reaches the end.

	This is easier said than done because there are only so many times per each game day that you can improve a Social Link, and often that requires you to decide between improving a Social Link (which may even require you to decide which of several ones you can pick) and one of several other activities, such as dungeon crawling or grinding for the [[Ability Score]] boosts you often need to progress or unlock a Social Link. In general, you'll probably only get one Social Link improvement a day, though Persona 5 allows you to get two per day. The "casual" approach to Persona games is thus to focus on grinding ability scores first until you get a bad end, then use your New Game+ and the higher starting scores to be able to focus on boosting Social Links primarily or even exclusively.		This is easier said than done because there are only so many times per each game day that you can improve a Social Link, and often that requires you to decide between improving a Social Link (which may even require you to decide which of several ones you can pick) and one of several other activities, such as dungeon crawling or grinding for the [[Ability Score]] boosts you often need to progress or unlock a Social Link. In general, you'll probably only get one Social Link improvement a day, though Persona 5 allows you to get two per day. The "casual" approach to Persona games is thus to focus on grinding ability scores first until you get a bad end, then use your New Game+ and the higher starting scores to be able to focus on boosting Social Links primarily or even exclusively.

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	The more popular offshoot of Shin Megami Tensi, due to being Playstation based and thus not having to fear Nintendo's censors, the '''Persona''' games are a more [[Science Fantasy]] take on the core SMT premise, rooting themselves in a mixture of the Tarot and Jungian psychology. Basically, rather than being "real", the various monsters and deities are emanations of humanity's collective psyche that have taken up their own identities within the collective subconsciousness. The repeating plot generally centers around humanity's collective maladjustments are causing an impending psychic catastrophe, which a small bunch of plucky heroes (aka Highschool students) need to prevent.		The more popular offshoot of Shin Megami Tensi, due to being Playstation based and thus not having to fear Nintendo's censors, the '''Persona''' games are a more [[Science Fantasy]] take on the core SMT premise, rooting themselves in a mixture of the Tarot and Jungian psychology. Basically, rather than being "real", the various monsters and deities are emanations of humanity's collective psyche that have taken up their own identities within the collective subconsciousness. The repeating plot generally centers around humanity's collective maladjustments are causing an impending psychic catastrophe, which a small bunch of plucky heroes (aka Highschool students) need to prevent.

	Monsters in the Persona series are divided into two primary categories; ''Shadows'' are the embodiments of humanity's collective malice, selfishness, evil and negative thoughts, and these make up the enemies you have to beat up throughout the games. In contrast, ''Personas'' are psychological avatars, constructs of humanity's positive thoughts, and these take the forms of the classical mythological monsters seen in the SMT games. Personas are grouped into categories based on the Major Arcana of the Tarot system, rather than the overarching racial families of the SMT games.		Monsters in the Persona series are divided into two primary categories; ''Shadows'' are the embodiments of humanity's collective malice, selfishness, evil and negative thoughts, and these make up the enemies you have to beat up throughout the games. In contrast, ''Personas'' are psychological avatars, constructs of humanity's positive thoughts, and these take the forms of the classical mythological monsters seen in the SMT games. Personas are grouped into categories based on the Major Arcana of the Tarot system, rather than the overarching racial families of the SMT games. The backstory establishes that Personas and Shadows are the same thing, however unlike a Persona, a Shadow is not under a human's conscious control; later games show a character's Shadow directly turning into a Persona once they accept their negative side.

	In Persona games, people only normally have a single Persona they can call upon to battle against Shadows. However, the player-controlled characters have the ability to amass legions of Personas and switch between them freely, a trait referred to as "The Wild Card" and which may be connected to their personal Arcana being The Fool. Personas do not evolve via level-up, unlike their demon counterparts, but can still be fused together to create new Personas.		In Persona games, people only normally have a single Persona they can call upon to battle against Shadows. However, the player-controlled characters have the ability to amass legions of Personas and switch between them freely, a trait referred to as "The Wild Card" and which may be connected to their personal Arcana being The Fool. Personas do not evolve via level-up, unlike their demon counterparts, but can still be fused together to create new Personas.

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	*Digital Devil Saga: A duology of games taking place in a post-apocalyptic world where instead of summoning demons people transform into them. Based mostly around a Hindu mythology motif instead of the standard Judeo-Christian.		*Digital Devil Saga: A duology of games taking place in a post-apocalyptic world where instead of summoning demons people transform into them. Based mostly around a Hindu mythology motif instead of the standard Judeo-Christian.

	*Devil Survivor: Pair of strategic RPGs. ~~Devil Survivor 1 is generally higher regarded than 2~~.		* Majin Tensei: Strategy RPG sub-series that took inspiration from Fire Emblem. The third game known as Ronde for the Sega Saturn was notoriously bad that a demo caused a lot of people to cancel their preorders.

			*Devil Survivor: Pair of strategic RPGs. Disaster strikes and you need to find a way to survive and prevent future deaths with the help of a device that can either tell you how many days you have left (first game) or being able to view a death that has yet to happen (second).

	*Devil Summoner: Series of games taking place in an alternate timeline where the apocalypse in SMT 1 never happened with more of an urban fantasy approach. Has a subseries in itself in the Raido Kuzunoha series, which is about a demon-summoning detective in 1920s Japan.		*Devil Summoner: Series of games taking place in an alternate timeline where the apocalypse in SMT 1 never happened with more of an urban fantasy approach. Has a subseries in itself in the Raido Kuzunoha series, which is about a demon-summoning detective in 1920s Japan.