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Szarekh, The Last Silent King

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	[[File:Silent-King-Model-Warhammer-Community.png\|thumb\|right\|He's back, and he's got a sweet pimp throne, [[Awesome\|complete with a broken, defeated god as a battery]].]]		[[File:Silent-King-Model-Warhammer-Community.png\|thumb\|right\|He's back, and he's got a sweet pimp throne, [[Awesome\|complete with a broken, defeated god as a battery]].]]

	The last Silent King was named Szarekh, and it was he who sealed the pact with the [[C'tan]] in order to gain their power to fight against the [[Old Ones]]. Unfortunately for the Necrontyr, there was a catch: the bio-transference process that upgraded them into the metallic, immortal Necrons had the side-effect of stripping them of their souls and, for the most part, their free wills. The Silent King was placed in charge of the entirety of the Necron race, while the delicious souls went to the C'tan.		The last Silent King was named Szarekh, and it was he who sealed the pact with the [[C'tan]] in order to gain their power to fight against the [[Old Ones (Warhammer)\| Old Ones]]. Unfortunately for the Necrontyr, there was a catch: the bio-transference process that upgraded them into the metallic, immortal Necrons had the side-effect of stripping them of their souls and, for the most part, their free wills. The Silent King was placed in charge of the entirety of the Necron race, while the delicious souls went to the C'tan.

	Szarekh was not happy about this (though he wasn't precisely angry either, given the loss of his soul), but he had no leverage to fight the C'tan -- what they had given, they could easily take away, and then some. Therefore, he fought the [[War in Heaven]] alongside the C'tan, and waited until the very moment of victory, when the C'tan were nearly spent, and turned on them with every warrior and weapon at his disposal, shattering the star-gods and binding the fragments that remained.		Szarekh was not happy about this (though he wasn't precisely angry either, given the loss of his soul), but he had no leverage to fight the C'tan -- what they had given, they could easily take away, and then some. Therefore, he fought the [[War in Heaven]] alongside the C'tan, and waited until the very moment of victory, when the C'tan were nearly spent, and turned on them with every warrior and weapon at his disposal, shattering the star-gods and binding the fragments that remained.

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2023-01-23T14:18:25Z

Szarekh: hero or villain?

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	Szarekh's actions have both been tremendously evil, such as what he did to his own people turning them into Necrons and how he disregarded Orikan's warnings that the deal carried a huge cost the C'tan didn't mention, but also tremendously good, such as killing the C'tan and freeing his people from his own grip (like a certain someone also said he would do once humanity had evolved enough). Not only did he forsake power, but also out of guilt he left the galaxy. This does show some character development, more than most 40k characters get.		Szarekh's actions have both been tremendously evil, such as what he did to his own people turning them into Necrons and how he disregarded Orikan's warnings that the deal carried a huge cost the C'tan didn't mention, but also tremendously good, such as killing the C'tan and freeing his people from his own grip (like a certain someone also said he would do once humanity had evolved enough). Not only did he forsake power, but also out of guilt he left the galaxy. This does show some character development, more than most 40k characters get.

	There is an important fact to remember, if necrontyr lifespan is anything to go by, he did not start the War in Heaven, he inherited it after untold generations of war when the necrontyr were basically in their last leg, when you consider this you find the bargain he did with the C'tan looks more like the [[Great Crusade\|last desperate gamble]] [[Indomitus Crusade\|of a hard pressed monarch attempting to save his kin from total annihilation]] than your average Chaos worshipping noble who is just in to get more power. He got a very hard hand to play and he did as best as he could given the circumstances and unlike, say, the Emperor or Guilliman, he didn't have psychic powers, a decent starting point or even a gene-~~enhaced~~ body to tank with all the stress and hardship, in a few more years he and everyone he knew and cared for was going to get consumed by cancer, or were already in the process of dying, so, from his point of view it may have been a no brainer.		There is an important fact to remember, if necrontyr lifespan is anything to go by, he did not start the War in Heaven, he inherited it after untold generations of war when the necrontyr were basically in their last leg, when you consider this you find the bargain he did with the C'tan looks more like the [[Great Crusade\|last desperate gamble]] [[Indomitus Crusade\|of a hard pressed monarch attempting to save his kin from total annihilation]] than your average Chaos worshipping noble who is just in to get more power. He got a very hard hand to play and he did as best as he could given the circumstances and unlike, say, the Emperor or Guilliman, he didn't have psychic powers, a decent starting point or even a gene-enhanced body to tank with all the stress and hardship, in a few more years he and everyone he knew and cared for was going to get consumed by cancer, or were already in the process of dying, so, from his point of view it may have been a no brainer.

	Then we don't know what he had been doing for 60 million years, it should be interesting to know what other galaxies think about the Silent King.		Then we don't know what he had been doing for 60 million years, it should be interesting to know what other galaxies think about the Silent King.
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	Despite this, there is his stance on the other races. You see the official reason why the Necrons are trying to save other sentient species from the Nids and the Great Beast is supposedly to later see if it is possible to make some reverse biotransference, which should mean Szarekh's desire to save other races is fueled out of selfish motives.		Despite this, there is his stance on the other races. You see the official reason why the Necrons are trying to save other sentient species from the Nids and the Great Beast is supposedly to later see if it is possible to make some reverse biotransference, which should mean Szarekh's desire to save other races is fueled out of selfish motives.

	But the Indomitus book offers a different possibility for the motivation within the Silent King's attempt to save other sentient species. The plasmancer says that Szarekh ordered his Nemesors to try to preserve human life if possible in order to "use them as labor" in case biotransference is not possible. Now think about it, using humans as labor is a terrible idea if you are a Necron. Necrons have drones in droves to do manual labor, so autonomous humans who need amenities and extensively processed biomatter are useless as a workforce to them. Plus, given the Necrons lack of need for amenities or physical comforts, ~~that~~ is much less need for goods or services. Yet Szarekh insists on telling the Necrons to preserve the life of these meatbags for two ultimately futile endeavors.		But the Indomitus book offers a different possibility for the motivation within the Silent King's attempt to save other sentient species. The plasmancer says that Szarekh ordered his Nemesors to try to preserve human life if possible in order to "use them as labor" in case biotransference is not possible. Now think about it, using humans as labor is a terrible idea if you are a Necron. Necrons have drones in droves to do manual labor, so autonomous humans who need amenities and extensively processed biomatter are useless as a workforce to them. Plus, given the Necrons' lack of need for amenities or physical comforts, there is much less need for goods or services. Yet Szarekh insists on telling the Necrons to preserve the life of these meatbags for two ultimately futile endeavors.

	What if he is actually just trying to convince overlords to not kill sentient species by using these two motives as excuses to justify such an order?		What if he is actually just trying to convince overlords to not kill sentient species by using these two motives as excuses to justify such an order?

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	...which lasted right up until he found out what was in the void: the [[Tyranids]]. When he encountered the vanguard of [[Hive Fleet Behemoth]], he NOPE'd right back home, getting in touch with the remaining [[Triarch Praetorian\|Praetorians]] to awaken every [[Tomb World]] still standing and unite against the swarm. The space-vermin might not be a threat to the the Necrons themselves, but they were certainly a threat to their stuff, like, you know, the galaxy, which they regard as theirs -- after all, if the Tyranids ate everything, there would be no bodies to return to, and nothing to rule over! The Silent King so disliked this possibility that he allied with the [[Blood Angels]] to fight off a Tyranid landing force, and even let them go on their way when the fighting was over.		...which lasted right up until he found out what was in the void: the [[Tyranids]]. When he encountered the vanguard of [[Hive Fleet Behemoth]], he NOPE'd right back home, getting in touch with the remaining [[Triarch Praetorian\|Praetorians]] to awaken every [[Tomb World]] still standing and unite against the swarm. The space-vermin might not be a threat to the the Necrons themselves, but they were certainly a threat to their stuff, like, you know, the galaxy, which they regard as theirs -- after all, if the Tyranids ate everything, there would be no bodies to return to, and nothing to rule over! The Silent King so disliked this possibility that he allied with the [[Blood Angels]] to fight off a Tyranid landing force, and even let them go on their way when the fighting was over.

	He's back with the reveal of [[Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition\|9E]]. His new model even has a retinue, not unlike [[Katakros\|another influential bone-daddy]] and he even has a [[C'tan]] shard with him. His stands on top his [[Dais of Dominion\|personal pimp throne looking totes SWAG.]] It does NOT look happy with its current living conditions (It probably doesn't help that its heavily hinted that Szarekh is currently wearing its flayed skin as his cape). His return is to gather his peers up to help seal up the rift, in which way would also destroy all living ~~souls~~.		He's back with the reveal of [[Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition\|9E]]. His new model even has a retinue, not unlike [[Katakros\|another influential bone-daddy]] and he even has a [[C'tan]] shard with him. His stands on top his [[Dais of Dominion\|personal pimp throne looking totes SWAG.]] It does NOT look happy with its current living conditions (It probably doesn't help that its heavily hinted that Szarekh is currently wearing its flayed skin as his cape). His return is to gather his peers up to help seal up the rift, in which way would also destroy all living things.

	== Speculation ==		== Speculation ==

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Szarekh, The Last Silent King

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	...which lasted right up until he found out what was in the void: the [[Tyranids]]. When he encountered the vanguard of [[Hive Fleet Behemoth]], he NOPE'd right back home, getting in touch with the remaining [[Triarch Praetorian\|Praetorians]] to awaken every [[Tomb World]] still standing and unite against the swarm. The space-vermin might not be a threat to the the Necrons themselves, but they were certainly a threat to their stuff, like, you know, the galaxy, which they regard as theirs -- after all, if the Tyranids ate everything, there would be no bodies to return to, and nothing to rule over! The Silent King so disliked this possibility that he allied with the [[Blood Angels]] to fight off a Tyranid landing force, and even let them go on their way when the fighting was over.		...which lasted right up until he found out what was in the void: the [[Tyranids]]. When he encountered the vanguard of [[Hive Fleet Behemoth]], he NOPE'd right back home, getting in touch with the remaining [[Triarch Praetorian\|Praetorians]] to awaken every [[Tomb World]] still standing and unite against the swarm. The space-vermin might not be a threat to the the Necrons themselves, but they were certainly a threat to their stuff, like, you know, the galaxy, which they regard as theirs -- after all, if the Tyranids ate everything, there would be no bodies to return to, and nothing to rule over! The Silent King so disliked this possibility that he allied with the [[Blood Angels]] to fight off a Tyranid landing force, and even let them go on their way when the fighting was over.

	He's back with the reveal of [[Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition\|9E]]. His new model even has a retinue, not unlike [[Katakros\|another influential bone-daddy]] and he even has a [[C'tan]] shard with him. His stands on top his [[Dais of Dominion\|personal pimp throne looking totes SWAG.]] It does NOT look happy with its current living conditions (It probably doesn't help that its heavily hinted that Szarekh is currently wearing its flayed skin as his cape). His return is to gather his peers up to help seal up the rift, in which way would also destroy all living souls ~~in the galaxy~~.		He's back with the reveal of [[Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition\|9E]]. His new model even has a retinue, not unlike [[Katakros\|another influential bone-daddy]] and he even has a [[C'tan]] shard with him. His stands on top his [[Dais of Dominion\|personal pimp throne looking totes SWAG.]] It does NOT look happy with its current living conditions (It probably doesn't help that its heavily hinted that Szarekh is currently wearing its flayed skin as his cape). His return is to gather his peers up to help seal up the rift, in which way would also destroy all living souls.

	== Speculation ==		== Speculation ==

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Szarekh: hero or villain?

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	What if he is actually just trying to convince overlords to not kill sentient species by using these two motives as excuses to justify such an order?		What if he is actually just trying to convince overlords to not kill sentient species by using these two motives as excuses to justify such an order?

	Szarekh has clearly done horrible things, but it is entirely possible that he is trying to redeem himself for his actions, both towards his people and towards the galaxy. Or he is a lighter shade of grey, not-so-Grimdark imperialist who just wants to rule over as many diverse subjects as possible without being a murderous dick. Clearly the morality of Szarekh requires a lot more study within the black library, after all we don't see many great redemption arcs in Warhammer 40k, and Szarekh can provide us with one.		Szarekh has clearly done horrible things, but it is entirely possible that he is trying to redeem himself for his actions, both towards his people and towards the galaxy. Or he is a lighter shade of grey, not-so-Grimdark imperialist who just wants to rule over as many diverse subjects as possible without being a murderous dick. Clearly the morality of Szarekh requires a lot more study within the black library, after all we don't see many great redemption arcs in Warhammer 40k, and Szarekh can provide us with one. Or not, since his way of sealing the rift would destroy all living beings.

	== 9th Edition Crunch ==		== 9th Edition Crunch ==

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	...which lasted right up until he found out what was in the void: the [[Tyranids]]. When he encountered the vanguard of [[Hive Fleet Behemoth]], he NOPE'd right back home, getting in touch with the remaining [[Triarch Praetorian\|Praetorians]] to awaken every [[Tomb World]] still standing and unite against the swarm. The space-vermin might not be a threat to the the Necrons themselves, but they were certainly a threat to their stuff, like, you know, the galaxy, which they regard as theirs -- after all, if the Tyranids ate everything, there would be no bodies to return to, and nothing to rule over! The Silent King so disliked this possibility that he allied with the [[Blood Angels]] to fight off a Tyranid landing force, and even let them go on their way when the fighting was over.		...which lasted right up until he found out what was in the void: the [[Tyranids]]. When he encountered the vanguard of [[Hive Fleet Behemoth]], he NOPE'd right back home, getting in touch with the remaining [[Triarch Praetorian\|Praetorians]] to awaken every [[Tomb World]] still standing and unite against the swarm. The space-vermin might not be a threat to the the Necrons themselves, but they were certainly a threat to their stuff, like, you know, the galaxy, which they regard as theirs -- after all, if the Tyranids ate everything, there would be no bodies to return to, and nothing to rule over! The Silent King so disliked this possibility that he allied with the [[Blood Angels]] to fight off a Tyranid landing force, and even let them go on their way when the fighting was over.

	He's back with the reveal of [[Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition\|9E]]. His new model even has a retinue, not unlike [[Katakros\|another influential bone-daddy]] and he even has a [[C'tan]] shard with him. His stands on top his [[Dais of Dominion\|personal pimp throne looking totes SWAG.]] It does NOT look happy with its current living conditions (It probably doesn't help that its heavily hinted that Szarekh is currently wearing its flayed skin as his cape).		He's back with the reveal of [[Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition\|9E]]. His new model even has a retinue, not unlike [[Katakros\|another influential bone-daddy]] and he even has a [[C'tan]] shard with him. His stands on top his [[Dais of Dominion\|personal pimp throne looking totes SWAG.]] It does NOT look happy with its current living conditions (It probably doesn't help that its heavily hinted that Szarekh is currently wearing its flayed skin as his cape). His return is to gather his peers up to help seal up the rift, in which way would also destroy all living souls in the galaxy.

	== Speculation ==		== Speculation ==

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	During the Alliance negotiations with [[Dante]], the Silent King mentioned a similar conversation with their Primarch, Sanguinius. This would mean that Szarekh had already returned 10,000 years before the 1st Tyrannic War and one of the Primarchs was aware of the Tyranid threat. Common sense dictates that this happened just before [[Horus Heresy\|it all went to shit]] and all the humans involved got killed (or sat on the [[Golden Throne]]) before spreading the alarm.		During the Alliance negotiations with [[Dante]], the Silent King mentioned a similar conversation with their Primarch, Sanguinius. This would mean that Szarekh had already returned 10,000 years before the 1st Tyrannic War and one of the Primarchs was aware of the Tyranid threat. Common sense dictates that this happened just before [[Horus Heresy\|it all went to shit]] and all the humans involved got killed (or sat on the [[Golden Throne]]) before spreading the alarm. He was also wearing a BA death mask like mask.

	Either that or he lied with help from his High Chronomancer. [[Just as planned]].		Either that or he lied with help from his High Chronomancer. [[Just as planned]].