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1d4chan>Ilniaj: /* Lore of Khorne (Warhammer Fantasy) */

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Lore of Khorne (Warhammer Fantasy)

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	Chaos Sorcerers and Sorcerer Lords may take a Mark of Khorne for 10pts. The restriction on Daemon Princes of Khorne not being able to take wizard levels is removed. A Sorcerer or Daemon Prince with the Mark of Khorne uses spells from either the Lore of Fire or the Lore of Khorne. If the player isn't using the rules for three varieties of Bloodthirster then Bloodthirsters may take up to 4 Wizard levels for 35pts each and a Herald of Khorne may be upgraded to a Wizard (Level 1) for 35pts. Bloodthirsters and Heralds of Khorne use spells from either the Lore of Fire or the Lore of Khorne.		Chaos Sorcerers and Sorcerer Lords may take a Mark of Khorne for 10pts. The restriction on Daemon Princes of Khorne not being able to take wizard levels is removed. A Sorcerer or Daemon Prince with the Mark of Khorne uses spells from either the Lore of Fire or the Lore of Khorne. If the player isn't using the rules for three varieties of Bloodthirster then Bloodthirsters may take up to 4 Wizard levels for 35pts each and a Herald of Khorne may be upgraded to a Wizard (Level 1) for 35pts. Bloodthirsters and Heralds of Khorne use spells from either the Lore of Fire or the Lore of Khorne.

	~~Let it Flow~~! (Warriors of Chaos Lore Attribute): As the ~~battle drags on~~, ~~more blood is spilled~~, ~~giving~~ the ~~sorcerer more material with which to work~~. For ~~every two turns that pass~~, the ~~casting wizard adds +~~1 ~~to its attempts to cast spells from~~ the ~~Lore~~ of ~~Khorne~~.		Kill! (Warriors of Chaos Lore Attribute): ''Khorne is the Embodiment of Anger and he blesses all who kill with his strength and rage.'' When a spell from the Lore of Khorne is successfully cast, roll a D6, plus one D6 for each model augmented or hexed by the spell (if any). For each result of a 6 rolled, the Wizard's Strength and Attacks are increased by 1 until the start of his next magic phase.

	Born of Violence (Daemons of Chaos Lore Attribute): When a Daemon casts a spell from the Lore of Khorne that causes one or more unsaved wounds, choose a unit of Bloodletters or Flesh Hounds within 12" of the caster and roll a D6 for each wound caused. If it is a unit of Bloodletters, add 1 model to the unit for each result of 5 or 6. If it is a unit of Flesh Hounds, add 1 model to the unit for each result of 6. Models are added one at a time to the back rank. If the back rank is full at any point, or the unit has a single rank of at least 5 models, the next model starts a new back rank. Models that cannot be placed (because there isn't enough room, or you do not have sufficient models) are lost. Models created in this way have no upgrades and do not award additional victory points.		Born of Violence (Daemons of Chaos Lore Attribute): When a Daemon casts a spell from the Lore of Khorne that causes one or more unsaved wounds, choose a unit of Bloodletters or Flesh Hounds within 12" of the caster and roll a D6 for each wound caused. If it is a unit of Bloodletters, add 1 model to the unit for each result of 5 or 6. If it is a unit of Flesh Hounds, add 1 model to the unit for each result of 6. Models are added one at a time to the back rank. If the back rank is full at any point, or the unit has a single rank of at least 5 models, the next model starts a new back rank. Models that cannot be placed (because there isn't enough room, or you do not have sufficient models) are lost. Models created in this way have no upgrades and do not award additional victory points.

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1d4chan>ThatOneBruvva: /* In Fantasy/AoS */

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In Fantasy/AoS

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	A fine example of a Bloodfather would be Alfkaell the Aesling, he kills Kurgan Zars for disrespecting Khorne and gives awesome speeches telling people about the futility of fighting his god and doesn't afraid of anything. He is a supporting antagonist in the aptly named ''Blood for the Blood God'' novel by [[C.L. Werner]].		A fine example of a Bloodfather would be Alfkaell the Aesling, he kills Kurgan Zars for disrespecting Khorne and gives awesome speeches telling people about the futility of fighting his god and doesn't afraid of anything. He is a supporting antagonist in the aptly named ''Blood for the Blood God'' novel by [[C.L. Werner]].

	As for Age of Sigmar, Khorne finally took a lawyerly approach to magic. If it's just channeling daemonic power through huge, bloodthirsty avatars of destruction then it ain't sorcery, is it? That's just ~~church~~. And so the [[Khorne Bloodbound]] have a sort cleric caste, like the 7-foot tall Slaughterpriests or the modestly 6"6' icon-bearing ~~Bloodsectrators~~ ("Khornesecrators" was too on-the-nose).		As for Age of Sigmar, Khorne finally took a lawyerly approach to magic. If it's just channeling daemonic power through huge, bloodthirsty avatars of destruction then it ain't sorcery, is it? That's just worship. And so the [[Khorne Bloodbound]] have a sort of cleric caste, like the 7-foot tall Slaughterpriests or the modestly 6"6' icon-bearing Bloodsecrators ("Khornesecrators" was probably too on-the-nose in the wrong ways for GW to go through with) alongside the giant altars of chaos.

	==Homebrew==		==Homebrew==

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	Also from a mechanical standpoint, the Bloodthirster was the only Greater Daemon they had designed, so it was the only one they could summon.		Also from a mechanical standpoint, the Bloodthirster was the only Greater Daemon they had designed, so it was the only one they could summon.

	==~~40K Faggotry Aside~~==		==In Fantasy/AoS==
	Yes, Khorne does indeed have ''SEERS'' dedicated to him. But there is a catch.		Yes, Khorne does indeed have ''SEERS'' dedicated to him. But there is a catch.

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	A fine example of a Bloodfather would be Alfkaell the Aesling, he kills Kurgan Zars for disrespecting Khorne and gives awesome speeches telling people about the futility of fighting his god and doesn't afraid of anything. He is a supporting antagonist in the aptly named ''Blood for the Blood God'' novel by [[C.L. Werner]].		A fine example of a Bloodfather would be Alfkaell the Aesling, he kills Kurgan Zars for disrespecting Khorne and gives awesome speeches telling people about the futility of fighting his god and doesn't afraid of anything. He is a supporting antagonist in the aptly named ''Blood for the Blood God'' novel by [[C.L. Werner]].

			As for Age of Sigmar, Khorne finally took a lawyerly approach to magic. If it's just channeling daemonic power through huge, bloodthirsty avatars of destruction then it ain't sorcery, is it? That's just church. And so the [[Khorne Bloodbound]] have a sort cleric caste, like the 7-foot tall Slaughterpriests or the modestly 6"6' icon-bearing Bloodsectrators ("Khornesecrators" was too on-the-nose).

	==Homebrew==		==Homebrew==

1d4chan>Kracked Mynd at 05:38, 4 February 2019

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	<s>Or the fact that Khorne needs sorcerers to summon his daemons into reality.</s> Khornites summon daemons into reality by spilling Psyker Blood ritualistically. So it's fine.		<s>Or the fact that Khorne needs sorcerers to summon his daemons into reality.</s> Khornites summon daemons into reality by spilling Psyker Blood ritualistically. So it's fine.

	Incidentally, this story was written by some smarmy ~~40k faggot~~ who knows nothing about Warhammer Fantasy. For one thing, Khornates in Fantasy don't say "maim! kill! burn!", and actual Khornate sorcerers are just Chaos Warriors with premonition and no armour.		Incidentally, this story was written by some smarmy 40kfag who knows nothing about Warhammer Fantasy. For one thing, Khornates in Fantasy don't say "maim! kill! burn!", and actual Khornate sorcerers are just Chaos Warriors with premonition and no armour.

	HOW THE FUCK DOES SOMEONE MISSPELL '''REIKSPIEL'''?!		HOW THE FUCK DOES SOMEONE MISSPELL '''REIKSPIEL'''?!

1d4chan>SirSprinkles: /* A Very Different Take */

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A Very Different Take

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	<s>There was a Sorcerer in the World Eaters Warband in Dawn of War: Winter Assault. This is one of the rare breaches that was considered [[C.S.Goto\|Goto]] level.</s> Gore Mages and/or a <s>fallen [[Librarian]]</s>,FALLEN! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE FALLEN YOU FILTHY HERETIC! The World Eaters killed all their librarians.		<s>There was a Sorcerer in the World Eaters Warband in Dawn of War: Winter Assault. This is one of the rare breaches that was considered [[C.S.Goto\|Goto]] level.</s> Gore Mages and/or a <s>fallen [[Librarian]]</s>,FALLEN! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE FALLEN YOU FILTHY HERETIC! The World Eaters killed all their librarians.

	If the main [[Khorne]] page is to be believed, the Winter Assault Sorcerer isn't ''that'' big a fluff ~~breech~~. As mentioned elsewhere on this wiki, Khorne is fine with the magicks of summoning daemons. To summon daemons, you need sacrifices. To get the sacrifices, the player needs to manually guide the Sorcerer over to an Imperial Guard base, smash up the outer defenses, tie up the Ogryns with regular troops, cast a mind control spell on some Guardsmen, then escort the brainwashed Guardsmen back to the blood pit. Everything except the brainwashing step is done in what Khorne would call a "manual" method, earned with the sweat of your brow, the power of your own body, and the strength of your will. What's more, the Sorcerer isn't doing it from the safety of a distant hilltop, you have to send him into the thick of the fighting where only his wits will keep him alive. It's genuine warfare no matter how you slice it, something Khorne has little choice but to begrudgingly accept.		If the main [[Khorne]] page is to be believed, the Winter Assault Sorcerer isn't ''that'' big a fluff breach. As mentioned elsewhere on this wiki, Khorne is fine with the magicks of summoning daemons. To summon daemons, you need sacrifices. To get the sacrifices, the player needs to manually guide the Sorcerer over to an Imperial Guard base, smash up the outer defenses, tie up the Ogryns with regular troops, cast a mind control spell on some Guardsmen, then escort the brainwashed Guardsmen back to the blood pit. Everything except the brainwashing step is done in what Khorne would call a "manual" method, earned with the sweat of your brow, the power of your own body, and the strength of your will. What's more, the Sorcerer isn't doing it from the safety of a distant hilltop, you have to send him into the thick of the fighting where only his wits will keep him alive. It's genuine warfare no matter how you slice it, something Khorne has little choice but to begrudgingly accept.

	And, his general derpiness aside, [[Crull]] probably saw the wisdom in keeping a psyker around as an advisor and a utility. Considering that he wasn't otherwise in the warband's colors, he was presumably a mercenary sorcerer who was kept on retainer.		And, his general derpiness aside, [[Crull]] probably saw the wisdom in keeping a psyker around as an advisor and a utility. Considering that he wasn't otherwise in the warband's colors, he was presumably a mercenary sorcerer who was kept on retainer.

86.5.248.239: /* A Very Different Take */

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A Very Different Take

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	And, his general derpiness aside, [[Crull]] probably saw the wisdom in keeping a psyker around as an advisor and a utility. Considering that he wasn't otherwise in the warband's colors, he was presumably a mercenary sorcerer who was kept on retainer.		And, his general derpiness aside, [[Crull]] probably saw the wisdom in keeping a psyker around as an advisor and a utility. Considering that he wasn't otherwise in the warband's colors, he was presumably a mercenary sorcerer who was kept on retainer.

			Also from a mechanical standpoint, the Bloodthirster was the only Greater Daemon they had designed, so it was the only one they could summon.

	==40K Faggotry Aside==		==40K Faggotry Aside==

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	<s>Or the fact that Khorne needs sorcerers to summon his daemons into reality.</s> Khornites summon daemons into reality by spilling Psyker Blood ritualistically. So it's fine.		<s>Or the fact that Khorne needs sorcerers to summon his daemons into reality.</s> Khornites summon daemons into reality by spilling Psyker Blood ritualistically. So it's fine.

	Incidentally, this story was written by some smarmy 40kfag who knows nothing about Warhammer Fantasy. For one thing, Khornates in Fantasy don't say "maim! kill! burn!", and actual Khornate sorcerers are just Chaos Warriors with premonition and no armour.		Incidentally, this story was written by some smarmy 40kfag who knows nothing about Warhammer Fantasy. For one thing, Khornates in Fantasy don't say "maim! kill! burn!", and actual Khornate sorcerers are just Chaos Warriors with premonition and no armour.

	HOW THE FUCK DOES SOMEONE MISSPELL '''REIKSPIEL'''?!		HOW THE FUCK DOES SOMEONE MISSPELL '''REIKSPIEL'''?!
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	==In Fantasy/AoS==		==In Fantasy/AoS==
	Yes, Khorne does indeed have ''SEERS'' dedicated to him. But there is a catch.		Yes, Khorne does indeed have ''SEERS'' dedicated to him. But there is a catch.

	You see, actual Khornate Sorcerers in Fantasy aren't Sorcerers at all, but are in fact Vitkis (the Norscan word for 'shaman') who bear Khorne's mark. In lieu of casting spells, these Vitki; who are known as "Bloodfathers", instead are endowed with GODLIKE MARTIAL PROWESS AND UNMATCHED KNOWLEDGE OF EVERY FIGHTING MOVE AND BATTLE TACTIC EVER. And also the ability to see gruesome visions of hardcore bloodshed, so they know exactly where to go.		You see, actual Khornate Sorcerers in Fantasy aren't Sorcerers at all, but are in fact Vitkis (the Norscan word for 'shaman') who bear Khorne's mark. In lieu of casting spells, these Vitki; who are known as "Bloodfathers", instead are endowed with GODLIKE MARTIAL PROWESS AND UNMATCHED KNOWLEDGE OF EVERY FIGHTING MOVE AND BATTLE TACTIC EVER. And also the ability to see gruesome visions of hardcore bloodshed, so they know exactly where to go.
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	===Discipline of Blood (Warhammer 40K)===		===Discipline of Blood (Warhammer 40K)===
	The restriction on Chaos Sorcerers being unable to take a Mark of Khorne is removed. The restriction on Daemon Princes of Khorne being unable to take Psyker mastery levels is removed. Heralds of Khorne may take up to two Psychic Mastery Levels for 25 points each. If the player is not using the rules for three variants of Bloodthirster then a Bloodthirster may take up to three Psychic Mastery Levels for 25 points each. A Sorcerer, Daemon Prince, Herald or Bloodthirster Psyker must generate at least one of their spells from the Discipline of Blood (unless from the Chaos Daemons Codex) and may generate up to half of their powers from the Discipline of Blood. Chaos Sorcerers with the Mark of Khorne are added to the list of units that may be taken as the HQ of a Slaughtercult.		The restriction on Chaos Sorcerers being unable to take a Mark of Khorne is removed. The restriction on Daemon Princes of Khorne being unable to take Psyker mastery levels is removed. Heralds of Khorne may take up to two Psychic Mastery Levels for 25 points each. If the player is not using the rules for three variants of Bloodthirster then a Bloodthirster may take up to three Psychic Mastery Levels for 25 points each. A Sorcerer, Daemon Prince, Herald or Bloodthirster Psyker must generate at least one of their spells from the Discipline of Blood (unless from the Chaos Daemons Codex) and may generate up to half of their powers from the Discipline of Blood. Chaos Sorcerers with the Mark of Khorne are added to the list of units that may be taken as the HQ of a Slaughtercult.
	*Blood Haste (Primaris): Warp Charge 1. The sorcerer tempts his brothers with the scent of blood, driving them to the battle sooner. Blood Haste is a Blessing that grants the psyker and his unit the Fleet and Hammer of Wrath USRs.		*Blood Haste (Primaris): Warp Charge 1. The sorcerer tempts his brothers with the scent of blood, driving them to the battle sooner. Blood Haste is a Blessing that grants the psyker and his unit the Fleet and Hammer of Wrath USRs.
	#Daemonic Steel: Warp Charge 1. The Sorcerer invokes the powers of Khorne's forge to strengthen his weapon, so that it may better spill blood in his name. Daemonic Steel is a Blessing that gives the psyker's Force Weapon the Daemon Weapon (See Codex Chaos Space Marines) special rule.		#Daemonic Steel: Warp Charge 1. The Sorcerer invokes the powers of Khorne's forge to strengthen his weapon, so that it may better spill blood in his name. Daemonic Steel is a Blessing that gives the psyker's Force Weapon the Daemon Weapon (See Codex Chaos Space Marines) special rule.
	#Khorne's Contempt: Warp Charge 1. Khorne shows no favor to those that avoid conflict and will go to any lengths to display it, even if it is through the psyker. Khorne's Contempt is a Malediction that targets a single enemy unit within 24". Whilst the power is in effect, the target unit must make a Leadership Check on a 3d6 each time it tries to overwatch, retreat, or move away from the closest enemy unit. If the unit fails the Leadership check, it suffers one Wound for each point the unit failed by, with no saves of any kind allowed.		#Khorne's Contempt: Warp Charge 1. Khorne shows no favor to those that avoid conflict and will go to any lengths to display it, even if it is through the psyker. Khorne's Contempt is a Malediction that targets a single enemy unit within 24". Whilst the power is in effect, the target unit must make a Leadership Check on a 3d6 each time it tries to overwatch, retreat, or move away from the closest enemy unit. If the unit fails the Leadership check, it suffers one Wound for each point the unit failed by, with no saves of any kind allowed.