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1d4chan>Korvalus: /* Origin */ The marines are NOT to be trifled with. They can be very scary to the Imperium if pissed off.

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	Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.		Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.

	The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]]. Which is kind of gaslighting the Marines since ~~without~~ the Navy and ~~Army,~~ the Marines ~~aren’t~~ really able to be a real threat to the Imperium.		The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]]. Which would be a kind of gaslighting to the Marines since both the [[Imperial Navy\|Navy]] and [[Imperial Guard]] can match the power of a Chapter with numbers alone. But the Marines are really able to be a real threat to the Imperium, specially if several Chapters unite, as conflicts like the [[Badab War]] has proven. That's why accusations of "Legion building" are taken so seriously.

	== Founding ==		== Founding ==

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	The '''Space Marine Chapter''' is the largest commonly-used organizational unit of [[Space Marines]], nominally consisting of a thousand Marines, give or take. As of the 41st Millennium, there are approximately one thousand Space Marine Chapters operating in the [[Imperium of Man]], so there are nominally about 1,000,000 Space Marines running about. That's roughly double the current number of active US military personnel or half that of China spread out across an entire galaxy.		The '''Space Marine Chapter''' is the largest commonly-used organizational unit of [[Space Marines]], nominally consisting of a thousand Marines, give or take. As of the 41st Millennium, there are approximately one thousand Space Marine Chapters operating in the [[Imperium of Man]], so there are nominally about 1,000,000 Space Marines running about. That's roughly double the current number of active US military personnel or half that of China spread out across an entire galaxy.

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	Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.		Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.

	The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]]. Which is kind of gaslighting the Marines since without the Navy and Army, the Marines aren’t really able to be a real threat to the Imperium.		The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]]. Which is kind of gaslighting the Marines since without the Navy and Army, the Marines aren’t really able to be a real threat to the Imperium.

	== Founding ==		== Founding ==

	The First and Second Foundings were unusual compared to the rest; in both cases, there were plenty of [[Space Marines]] to be had, so the founding of new Legions or Chapters was basically a re-organization. By the time of the 41st Millennium, Space Marines are made in much fewer numbers, so founding a new Chapter is not done lightly -- in fact, only twenty-five Foundings have been held since the Second.		The First and Second Foundings were unusual compared to the rest; in both cases, there were plenty of [[Space Marines]] to be had, so the founding of new Legions or Chapters was basically a re-organization. By the time of the 41st Millennium, Space Marines are made in much fewer numbers, so founding a new Chapter is not done lightly -- in fact, only twenty-five Foundings have been held since the Second.

	First, there has to be sufficient [[gene-seed]]. If there isn't enough in storage, more will be made by implanting some into slaves, extracting the progenoids, using them to make two sets of gene-seed, and so on. In a century, one set of gene-seed can be cloned into over a thousand, which is more than enough for a new chapter. Once there is enough gene-seed, a suitable set of Aspirants will go through training to become the first battle-brothers, while a few Veterans from a chapter that already exist will become the first [[Chapter Master\|Master]] and [[Brother-Captain\|Captains]] of the Chapter. This is a great honor for those Veterans chosen, and for their Chapter as well.		First, there has to be sufficient [[gene-seed]]. If there isn't enough in storage, more will be made by implanting some into slaves, extracting the progenoids, using them to make two sets of gene-seed, and so on. In a century, one set of gene-seed can be cloned into over a thousand, which is more than enough for a new chapter. Once there is enough gene-seed, a suitable set of Aspirants will go through training to become the first battle-brothers, while a few Veterans from a chapter that already exist will become the first [[Chapter Master\|Master]] and [[Brother-Captain\|Captains]] of the Chapter. This is a great honor for those Veterans chosen, and for their Chapter as well.

	== Organization ==		== Organization ==

	A single Marine is extremely powerful; a full Chapter is overkill for almost any situation save the most dire (though these situations are naturally the ones we hear about). To ensure that enough Marines are committed to a given battle (but no more, since they are too expensive to risk where they aren't needed), all Chapters have some organization scheme for dividing into smaller detachments. The majority of Chapters use the organization laid out in the [[Codex Astartes]] to some extent: a Company of ten [[Veteran Squad]]s, four Battle Companies with six [[Tactical Squad]]s, two [[Assault Squad]]s, and two [[Devastator Squad]]s, four Reserve Companies (two with ten Tactical Squads, one with ten Assault Squads, and one with ten Devastator Squads), and a [[Scout]] Company. Beyond these companies are the Chapter Command, comprised of the Librarius (Where all the [[Librarian]]s reside and write stuff), the Reclusiam (Where the [[Chaplain]]s and chapter relics reside), the Apothecarion (for [[Apothecary\|Apothecaries]]), and the Armoury (Where the [[Techmarine]]s look over the entire chapter's motor pool), and the [[Chapter Master]] himself, all of whom are attached to the various companies as the situation demands.		A single Marine is extremely powerful; a full Chapter is overkill for almost any situation save the most dire (though these situations are naturally the ones we hear about). To ensure that enough Marines are committed to a given battle (but no more, since they are too expensive to risk where they aren't needed), all Chapters have some organization scheme for dividing into smaller detachments. The majority of Chapters use the organization laid out in the [[Codex Astartes]] to some extent: a Company of ten [[Veteran Squad]]s, four Battle Companies with six [[Tactical Squad]]s, two [[Assault Squad]]s, and two [[Devastator Squad]]s, four Reserve Companies (two with ten Tactical Squads, one with ten Assault Squads, and one with ten Devastator Squads), and a [[Scout]] Company. Beyond these companies are the Chapter Command, comprised of the Librarius (Where all the [[Librarian]]s reside and write stuff), the Reclusiam (Where the [[Chaplain]]s and chapter relics reside), the Apothecarion (for [[Apothecary\|Apothecaries]]), and the Armoury (Where the [[Techmarine]]s look over the entire chapter's motor pool), and the [[Chapter Master]] himself, all of whom are attached to the various companies as the situation demands.

	This organization has seen some shifts as of late, however. With Guilliman's return and the dawn of the [[Primaris Space Marines]], these forces have been shifted around a little to allow these taller additions in categories that are roughly similar to their baseline counterparts. Chief among them is that Tenth Company now has a pool of Vanguard Marines, those Primaris Marines who have taken to the arts of subterfuge and stealth but are not green rookies by any means. Each chapter also now has two Lieutenants that act under the Captain, managing the company in his absence and coordinating strategies in the event that the company is separated.		This organization has seen some shifts as of late, however. With Guilliman's return and the dawn of the [[Primaris Space Marines]], these forces have been shifted around a little to allow these taller additions in categories that are roughly similar to their baseline counterparts. Chief among them is that Tenth Company now has a pool of Vanguard Marines, those Primaris Marines who have taken to the arts of subterfuge and stealth but are not green rookies by any means. Each chapter also now has two Lieutenants that act under the Captain, managing the company in his absence and coordinating strategies in the event that the company is separated.
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	== Tabletop ==		== Tabletop ==

	In-game, one's choice of Chapter generally has no effect on gameplay -- of course different Chapters have different color schemes, and an army's lore may suggest taking certain units in greater or lesser quantities, but they all basically draw from the same army list. That said, some [[Chapter Master]]s and [[Brother-Captain\|Captains]], if chosen, can grant certain special rules to the army they lead, and some Chapters ([[Space Wolves]], [[Black Templars]] and successors [prior to [[Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition\|6th edition]]], [[Blood Angels]] and successors, [[Dark Angels]] and successors, and [[Grey Knights]]) get their own [[Codex\|Codices]].		In-game, one's choice of Chapter generally has no effect on gameplay -- of course different Chapters have different color schemes, and an army's lore may suggest taking certain units in greater or lesser quantities, but they all basically draw from the same army list. That said, some [[Chapter Master]]s and [[Brother-Captain\|Captains]], if chosen, can grant certain special rules to the army they lead, and some Chapters ([[Space Wolves]], [[Black Templars]] and successors [prior to [[Warhammer 40,000 6th Edition\|6th edition]]], [[Blood Angels]] and successors, [[Dark Angels]] and successors, and [[Grey Knights]]) get their own [[Codex\|Codices]].

	This changed with 6th Edition; now, your choice of chapter does affect what "Chapter Tactics" they get. For example, the Red Talons, an [[Iron Hands]] successor, has the Iron Hands' version of the Chapter Tactics rule, while Howling Griffons use the Ultramarines'. Some of the special snowflake chapters, like the [[Red Scorpions]] or [[Black Templars]], get their own, but for the most part, it's based on whichever [[First Founding]] chapter they come from. 8th edition let you choose between 2 of 18 available chapter tactics or use a First Founding chapter's tactic.		This changed with 6th Edition; now, your choice of chapter does affect what "Chapter Tactics" they get. For example, the Red Talons, an [[Iron Hands]] successor, has the Iron Hands' version of the Chapter Tactics rule, while Howling Griffons use the Ultramarines'. Some of the special snowflake chapters, like the [[Red Scorpions]] or [[Black Templars]], get their own, but for the most part, it's based on whichever [[First Founding]] chapter they come from. 8th edition let you choose between 2 of 18 available chapter tactics or use a First Founding chapter's tactic.

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==

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	The '''Space Marine Chapter''' is the largest commonly-used organizational unit of [[Space Marines]], nominally consisting of a thousand Marines, give or take. As of the 41st Millennium, there are approximately one thousand Space Marine Chapters operating in the [[Imperium of Man]], so there are ~~Nominally~~ about 1,000,000 ~~million marines~~. ~~Roughly~~ double the current US ~~active personal~~ or half that of China~~. . .~~spread out across an entire galaxy.		The '''Space Marine Chapter''' is the largest commonly-used organizational unit of [[Space Marines]], nominally consisting of a thousand Marines, give or take. As of the 41st Millennium, there are approximately one thousand Space Marine Chapters operating in the [[Imperium of Man]], so there are nominally about 1,000,000 Space Marines running about. That's roughly double the current number of active US military personnel or half that of China spread out across an entire galaxy.

	== Origin ==		== Origin ==

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	Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.		Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.

	The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]].		The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]]. Which is kind of gaslighting the Marines since without the Navy and Army, the Marines aren’t really able to be a real threat to the Imperium.

	== Founding ==		== Founding ==

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	The '''Space Marine Chapter''' is the largest commonly-used organizational unit of [[Space Marines]], nominally consisting of a thousand Marines, give or take. As of the 41st Millennium, there are approximately one thousand Space Marine Chapters operating in the [[Imperium of Man]].		The '''Space Marine Chapter''' is the largest commonly-used organizational unit of [[Space Marines]], nominally consisting of a thousand Marines, give or take. As of the 41st Millennium, there are approximately one thousand Space Marine Chapters operating in the [[Imperium of Man]], so there are Nominally about 1,000,000 million marines. Roughly double the current US active personal or half that of China. . .spread out across an entire galaxy.

	== Origin ==		== Origin ==

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	Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.		Each Chapter is descended, in one way or another, from the twenty original Space Marine Legions founded to wage the [[Great Crusade]] -- in fact, the term "Chapter" began as one of several names for a roughly thousand-strong division of Marines, as a thousand Marines was few enough to be logistically manageable while numerous enough to handle almost any situation, especially with the assistance of their [[Imperial Guard\|Imperial Army]] regiments. However, some Legions preferred to operate at full strength all the time, especially the Sons of Horus (judging from the books, the ''Vengeful Spirit'' housed the Legion's whole first ten companies) and the Death Guard (operating most of the time as a single force of ~90k+ marines). It says something about the sheer manpower of these armies that large portions of the Legion were often benched during a campaign.

	The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and ~~millions~~ of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]].		The [[Horus Heresy]] proved that having a quarter of a million Marines and billions of Guardsmen under the command of one corruptible individual was too dangerous, so [[Roboute Guilliman]] (''who also originally had a quarter of a million of Marines and millions of Guardsmen under his command''), with the grudging assistance of the surviving loyalist [[Primarch]]s, instituted the [[Codex Astartes]] reforms, where the remaining loyalist Legions were divided into Chapters of no more than a thousand Marines. This event was known as the [[Second Founding]], with the creation of the twenty original Legions being retroactively designated the [[First Founding]].

	== Founding ==		== Founding ==

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	== Organization ==		== Organization ==

	A single Marine is extremely powerful; a full Chapter is overkill for almost any situation save the most dire (though these situations are naturally the ones we hear about). To ensure that enough Marines are committed to a given battle (but no more, since they are too expensive to risk where they aren't needed), all Chapters have some organization scheme for dividing into smaller detachments. The majority of Chapters use the organization laid out in the [[Codex Astartes]] to some extent: a ~~company~~ of ten [[Veteran Squad]]s, four Battle Companies with six [[Tactical Squad]]s, two [[Assault Squad]]s, and two [[Devastator Squad]]s, four Reserve Companies (two with ten Tactical Squads, one with ten Assault Squads, and one with ten Devastator Squads), and a [[Scout]] Company.		A single Marine is extremely powerful; a full Chapter is overkill for almost any situation save the most dire (though these situations are naturally the ones we hear about). To ensure that enough Marines are committed to a given battle (but no more, since they are too expensive to risk where they aren't needed), all Chapters have some organization scheme for dividing into smaller detachments. The majority of Chapters use the organization laid out in the [[Codex Astartes]] to some extent: a Company of ten [[Veteran Squad]]s, four Battle Companies with six [[Tactical Squad]]s, two [[Assault Squad]]s, and two [[Devastator Squad]]s, four Reserve Companies (two with ten Tactical Squads, one with ten Assault Squads, and one with ten Devastator Squads), and a [[Scout]] Company. Beyond these companies are the Chapter Command, comprised of the Librarius (Where all the [[Librarian]]s reside and write stuff), the Reclusiam (Where the [[Chaplain]]s and chapter relics reside), the Apothecarion (for [[Apothecary\|Apothecaries]]), and the Armoury (Where the [[Techmarine]]s look over the entire chapter's motor pool), and the [[Chapter Master]] himself, all of whom are attached to the various companies as the situation demands.

			This organization has seen some shifts as of late, however. With Guilliman's return and the dawn of the [[Primaris Space Marines]], these forces have been shifted around a little to allow these taller additions in categories that are roughly similar to their baseline counterparts. Chief among them is that Tenth Company now has a pool of Vanguard Marines, those Primaris Marines who have taken to the arts of subterfuge and stealth but are not green rookies by any means. Each chapter also now has two Lieutenants that act under the Captain, managing the company in his absence and coordinating strategies in the event that the company is separated.

	== Tabletop ==		== Tabletop ==

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	*[[Nearly Destroyed Chapters]]		*[[Nearly Destroyed Chapters]]
	*[[Expanded Minor Chapters]]		*[[Expanded Minor Chapters]]
			*[[Codex Astartes]]

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