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	'''The first mention of the Carcharodons says that their gene-seed might be Raven Guard''', but doesn't expand on that. Given that this was during the time that the [[Blood Ravens]] were really in the popular vogue (as they still are to this very day), the idea that the Carcharodons are secretly [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] was pretty popular because their tactics are more like the Night Lords than anyone else's. GW has tried to walk it back a bit by saying the Raven Guard were basically the Night Lords only with Corax instead of Curze since then, but the debate still rages on because most of the documents supporting the Raven Guard hypothesis are speculative in-universe, and the Imperium would probably cover up a loyal Chapter being descended from Traitors if the Blood Ravens are anything to go by.		'''The first mention of the Carcharodons says that their gene-seed might be Raven Guard''', but doesn't expand on that. Given that this was during the time that the [[Blood Ravens]] were really in the popular vogue (as they still are to this very day), the idea that the Carcharodons are secretly [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] was pretty popular because their tactics are more like the Night Lords than anyone else's. GW has tried to walk it back a bit by saying the Raven Guard were basically the Night Lords only with Corax instead of Curze since then, but the debate still rages on because most of the documents supporting the Raven Guard hypothesis are speculative in-universe, and the Imperium would probably cover up a loyal Chapter being descended from Traitors if the Blood Ravens are anything to go by.

	Horus Heresy III: Extermination suggests they're the descendants of Terran-born Raven Guard exiles led by Shade Lord Arkhas Fal, the grey armoured and white-faced pre-Corax XIXth Legion who had a reputation for going from stillness to extreme brutality and were basically taken under Horus Lupercal's wing in the centuries before their own Primarch was discovered. The exiles are referred to as a "nomad predation fleet" the same as the Carcharodons in the Badab War books and their cognomen during the early Great Crusade era was "Pale Nomads", a title given to them by the Luna Wolves and also the title of Te Kahurangi, the Chapter's current chief librarian, rumored to be only three generations removed from the original exiles. The Reaper Prime (Captain) of the Third Battle Company wears armour bearing the skull and lightning bolts of the Terran Pacification War further highlighting the Chapter's links to the pre-Crusade Legions, and Tyberos' distinctive shark-like helmet is also featured in the book. ~~and~~ in Robbie MacNiven's Black Library novels''Red Tithe'' and ''Outer Dark'' (<s>the only books we have dedicated to our jawesome friends</s> not anymore) it heavily implies that the Space Sharks are a chimeric combination of Raven Guard and Night Lord gene-seed, possibly with some World Eater mixed in, so the debate rages on.		Horus Heresy III: Extermination suggests they're the descendants of Terran-born Raven Guard exiles led by Shade Lord Arkhas Fal, the grey armoured and white-faced pre-Corax XIXth Legion who had a reputation for going from stillness to extreme brutality and were basically taken under Horus Lupercal's wing in the centuries before their own Primarch was discovered. The exiles are referred to as a "nomad predation fleet" the same as the Carcharodons in the Badab War books and their cognomen during the early Great Crusade era was "Pale Nomads", a title given to them by the Luna Wolves and also the title of Te Kahurangi, the Chapter's current chief librarian, rumored to be only three generations removed from the original exiles. The Reaper Prime (Captain) of the Third Battle Company wears armour bearing the skull and lightning bolts of the Terran Pacification War further highlighting the Chapter's links to the pre-Crusade Legions, and Tyberos' distinctive shark-like helmet is also featured in the book. In addition, in Robbie MacNiven's Black Library novels ''Red Tithe'' and ''Outer Dark'' (<s>the only books we have dedicated to our jawesome friends</s> not anymore) it heavily implies that the Space Sharks are a chimeric combination of Raven Guard and Night Lord gene-seed, possibly with some World Eater mixed in, so the debate rages on.
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66.205.125.20: removed the references to HorusHeresy 6, as the group that raided the night lords was the Ashen Claws, not the Carcharadons. Though this begs the question of how pure the Claws actually are in "Outer Dark"

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removed the references to HorusHeresy 6, as the group that raided the night lords was the Ashen Claws, not the Carcharadons. Though this begs the question of how pure the Claws actually are in "Outer Dark"

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	'''The first mention of the Carcharodons says that their gene-seed might be Raven Guard''', but doesn't expand on that. Given that this was during the time that the [[Blood Ravens]] were really in the popular vogue (as they still are to this very day), the idea that the Carcharodons are secretly [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] was pretty popular because their tactics are more like the Night Lords than anyone else's. GW has tried to walk it back a bit by saying the Raven Guard were basically the Night Lords only with Corax instead of Curze since then, but the debate still rages on because most of the documents supporting the Raven Guard hypothesis are speculative in-universe, and the Imperium would probably cover up a loyal Chapter being descended from Traitors if the Blood Ravens are anything to go by.		'''The first mention of the Carcharodons says that their gene-seed might be Raven Guard''', but doesn't expand on that. Given that this was during the time that the [[Blood Ravens]] were really in the popular vogue (as they still are to this very day), the idea that the Carcharodons are secretly [[Traitor Legion Loyalists]] was pretty popular because their tactics are more like the Night Lords than anyone else's. GW has tried to walk it back a bit by saying the Raven Guard were basically the Night Lords only with Corax instead of Curze since then, but the debate still rages on because most of the documents supporting the Raven Guard hypothesis are speculative in-universe, and the Imperium would probably cover up a loyal Chapter being descended from Traitors if the Blood Ravens are anything to go by.

	Horus Heresy III: Extermination suggests they're the descendants of Terran-born Raven Guard exiles led by Shade Lord Arkhas Fal, the grey armoured and white-faced pre-Corax XIXth Legion who had a reputation for going from stillness to extreme brutality and were basically taken under Horus Lupercal's wing in the centuries before their own Primarch was discovered. The exiles are referred to as a "nomad predation fleet" the same as the Carcharodons in the Badab War books and their cognomen during the early Great Crusade era was "Pale Nomads", a title given to them by the Luna Wolves and also the title of Te Kahurangi, the Chapter's current chief librarian, ~~rumoured~~ to be only three generations removed from the original exiles. The Reaper Prime (Captain) of the Third Battle Company wears armour bearing the skull and lightning bolts of the Terran Pacification War further highlighting the Chapter's links to the pre-Crusade Legions, and Tyberos' distinctive shark-like helmet is also featured in the book. ~~In Horus Heresy 6 however they raid the Night Lords for supplies, which includes gene-seed (which would make them chimeric if they tried to use it)~~ and in Robbie MacNiven's Black Library novels ''Red Tithe'' and ''Outer Dark'' (<s>the only books we have dedicated to our jawesome friends</s> not anymore) it ~~outright states~~ that the Space Sharks are a chimeric combination of Raven Guard and Night Lord gene-seed, so the debate rages on.		Horus Heresy III: Extermination suggests they're the descendants of Terran-born Raven Guard exiles led by Shade Lord Arkhas Fal, the grey armoured and white-faced pre-Corax XIXth Legion who had a reputation for going from stillness to extreme brutality and were basically taken under Horus Lupercal's wing in the centuries before their own Primarch was discovered. The exiles are referred to as a "nomad predation fleet" the same as the Carcharodons in the Badab War books and their cognomen during the early Great Crusade era was "Pale Nomads", a title given to them by the Luna Wolves and also the title of Te Kahurangi, the Chapter's current chief librarian, rumored to be only three generations removed from the original exiles. The Reaper Prime (Captain) of the Third Battle Company wears armour bearing the skull and lightning bolts of the Terran Pacification War further highlighting the Chapter's links to the pre-Crusade Legions, and Tyberos' distinctive shark-like helmet is also featured in the book. and in Robbie MacNiven's Black Library novels''Red Tithe'' and ''Outer Dark'' (<s>the only books we have dedicated to our jawesome friends</s> not anymore) it heavily implies that the Space Sharks are a chimeric combination of Raven Guard and Night Lord gene-seed, possibly with some World Eater mixed in, so the debate rages on.
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	The Imperium at large is mostly unaware of their existence, and even the [[Inquisition]] seems to have only limited information about them. The Sharks' complete lack of glory-seeking behavior doesn't help with this; for example, a badly depleted company of Blood Angels were relieved by a Carcharodons attack force during the Seventh [[Black Crusade]], during which Sharks managed to impress/concern Papa Sang's sons by being even more batshit-crazy murderous in assault than the Angels were. When the dust settled, the Blood Angels were given a fancy memorial (and got a whole spaceport named after them) but the Space Sharks went unremembered, save for a few crumbling statues in a forgotten corner with blank obsidian disks for faces. Isolated parts of the Mechanicus are aware of them, partly because of the "Grey Tithe", but this is implied to be because they are hoarding the relics the Carcharodons retrieve for themselves, rather than returning them to the Mechanicum proper. Which is what the Mechanicus brass (pun!) would have done anyway so whatever.		The Imperium at large is mostly unaware of their existence, and even the [[Inquisition]] seems to have only limited information about them. The Sharks' complete lack of glory-seeking behavior doesn't help with this; for example, a badly depleted company of Blood Angels were relieved by a Carcharodons attack force during the Seventh [[Black Crusade]], during which Sharks managed to impress/concern Papa Sang's sons by being even more batshit-crazy murderous in assault than the Angels were. When the dust settled, the Blood Angels were given a fancy memorial (and got a whole spaceport named after them) but the Space Sharks went unremembered, save for a few crumbling statues in a forgotten corner with blank obsidian disks for faces. Isolated parts of the Mechanicus are aware of them, partly because of the "Grey Tithe", but this is implied to be because they are hoarding the relics the Carcharodons retrieve for themselves, rather than returning them to the Mechanicum proper. Which is what the Mechanicus brass (pun!) would have done anyway so whatever.
	~~[[File:Captain Gura.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|The Esteemed Captain Gawr Gura of the Carcharodons]]~~
	A few members of the Inquisition have naturally raised concerns about this apparently undocumented force of Astartes just wandering around the galaxy with a predilection for wholesale slaughter and leaving very few survivors on either side when they're done. As an example from ''Carcharodons: Outer Dark'', in order to force a [[Genestealer Cult]] out into the open on a Shrine World, the Carcharodons gave the order to shut down every temple and pilgrimage site on the planet, knowing that this would cause mass civil unrest and thus force the cult to move ahead with their plans prematurely. [[Just as planned\|It ended up totally working]] and disrupting the imminent Tyranid invasion, but it also turned out that there were so many cultists on the planet that the Carcharodons decided "fuck it, the Emperor can sort them out" and promptly started just killing everyone at hand with the help of some Ashen Claws renegade Marines they'd invited along for the ride. There was only one survivor left from the ensuing chaos afterwards: an inquisitorial aide who had also been the sole survivor of the events of ''Red Tithe'' and had now witnessed a) a Space Marine force of questionable loyalty slaughtering a planet's population wholesale, b) while being allied with genuinely renegade space marines, and c) had also seen a Carcharodons Librarian apparently being partly bonded to a daemon that had been haunting her too. Loyalist chapters have been exterminated for far less. <s>Well, not really. The slaughter was justified and usually the Imperium would have used Exterminatus in that situation instead of killing everyone conventionally.</s> [[Flame Falcons\|Well, yes really.]] Ironically this means they “saved” the planet... [[Grimdark\|Just not the population]].		A few members of the Inquisition have naturally raised concerns about this apparently undocumented force of Astartes just wandering around the galaxy with a predilection for wholesale slaughter and leaving very few survivors on either side when they're done. As an example from ''Carcharodons: Outer Dark'', in order to force a [[Genestealer Cult]] out into the open on a Shrine World, the Carcharodons gave the order to shut down every temple and pilgrimage site on the planet, knowing that this would cause mass civil unrest and thus force the cult to move ahead with their plans prematurely. [[Just as planned\|It ended up totally working]] and disrupting the imminent Tyranid invasion, but it also turned out that there were so many cultists on the planet that the Carcharodons decided "fuck it, the Emperor can sort them out" and promptly started just killing everyone at hand with the help of some Ashen Claws renegade Marines they'd invited along for the ride. There was only one survivor left from the ensuing chaos afterwards: an inquisitorial aide who had also been the sole survivor of the events of ''Red Tithe'' and had now witnessed a) a Space Marine force of questionable loyalty slaughtering a planet's population wholesale, b) while being allied with genuinely renegade space marines, and c) had also seen a Carcharodons Librarian apparently being partly bonded to a daemon that had been haunting her too. Loyalist chapters have been exterminated for far less. <s>Well, not really. The slaughter was justified and usually the Imperium would have used Exterminatus in that situation instead of killing everyone conventionally.</s> [[Flame Falcons\|Well, yes really.]] Ironically this means they “saved” the planet... [[Grimdark\|Just not the population]].

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1d4chan>An0nym0us at 07:18, 16 May 2023

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	{{topquote\|Y'know, the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’ they all come in and… they rip you to pieces.\| Ned Quint, ''Jaws''}}		{{topquote\|Y'know, the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’ they all come in and… they rip you to pieces.\| Ned Quint, ''Jaws''}}

	The '''Carcharodons''' (High Gothic ''' ''Carcharodon Astra'' ''', low Gothic ''' ''Space Sharks'' ''', also known as ''The Trout'' or the '''Vlka Ootheka''') are a Loyalist [[Space Marine]] Chapter of unknown heritage. Little is known about them, aside from the fact that they usually appear amidst campaigns quietly and unannounced, and respond to threats with surprising ruthlessness and brutality. They are noted to use much older (and very patched-up) Heresy-era armor and weaponry (in ''Red Tithe'' a squad carries around a [[Volkite Caliver\|volkite caliver]], an ''extremely'' rare piece of tech in the 41st millennium, and their 3rd Company captain wears a suit of [[Mark III: Iron Armour\|Mark III armour]] that bears an insignia indicating participation in the [[Unification Wars\|Terran Pacification War]] (their "first battle honour"), and in battle seem to be utterly silent, even when visiting bloody murder on their foes (just like the Sons of Malice, coincidence?). Oh yeah, and they are the only known Space Marine chapter decked out completely in the [[Mark V: Heresy Armour]], not the typical Aquilla Armour, for ''some reason''. They just ''really'' like the look I guess.		The '''Carcharodons''' (High Gothic ''' ''Carcharodon Astra'' ''', low Gothic ''' ''Space Sharks'' ''', also known as ''The Trout'' or the '''Vlka Ootheka''') are a Loyalist [[Space Marine]] Chapter of unknown heritage. Little is known about them, aside from the fact that they usually appear amidst campaigns quietly and unannounced, and respond to threats with surprising ruthlessness and brutality. They are noted to use much older (and very patched-up) Heresy-era armor and weaponry (in ''Red Tithe'' a squad carries around a [[Volkite Caliver\|volkite caliver]], an ''extremely'' rare piece of tech in the 41st millennium, and their 3rd Company captain wears a suit of [[Mark III: Iron Armour\|Mark III armour]] that bears an insignia indicating participation in the [[Unification Wars\|Terran Pacification War]] (their "first battle honour"), and in battle seem to be utterly silent, even when visiting bloody murder on their foes (just like the Sons of Malice, coincidence?). Oh yeah, and they are the only known Space Marine chapter decked out completely in the [[Mark V: Heresy Armour]], not the typical Aquilla Armour, for ''some reason''. They just ''really'' like the look I guess. It's also rumored that their Chapter flagship is nicknamed "The Bigger Boat."

	Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.		Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.

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	{{topquote\|Y'know, the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’ they all come in and… they rip you to pieces.\| Ned Quint, ''Jaws''}}		{{topquote\|Y'know, the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’ they all come in and… they rip you to pieces.\| Ned Quint, ''Jaws''}}

	The '''Carcharodons''' (High Gothic ''' ''Carcharodon Astra'' ''', low Gothic ''' ''Space Sharks'' ''', also known as ''The Trout'' or the '''Vlka ~~Ootheca~~''') are a Loyalist [[Space Marine]] Chapter of unknown heritage. Little is known about them, aside from the fact that they usually appear amidst campaigns quietly and unannounced, and respond to threats with surprising ruthlessness and brutality. They are noted to use much older (and very patched-up) Heresy-era armor and weaponry (in ''Red Tithe'' a squad carries around a [[Volkite Caliver\|volkite caliver]], an ''extremely'' rare piece of tech in the 41st millennium, and their 3rd Company captain wears a suit of [[Mark III: Iron Armour\|Mark III armour]] that bears an insignia indicating participation in the [[Unification Wars\|Terran Pacification War]] (their "first battle honour"), and in battle seem to be utterly silent, even when visiting bloody murder on their foes (just like the Sons of Malice, coincidence?). Oh yeah, and they are the only known Space Marine chapter decked out completely in the [[Mark V: Heresy Armour]], not the typical Aquilla Armour, for ''some reason''. They just ''really'' like the look I guess.		The '''Carcharodons''' (High Gothic ''' ''Carcharodon Astra'' ''', low Gothic ''' ''Space Sharks'' ''', also known as ''The Trout'' or the '''Vlka Ootheka''') are a Loyalist [[Space Marine]] Chapter of unknown heritage. Little is known about them, aside from the fact that they usually appear amidst campaigns quietly and unannounced, and respond to threats with surprising ruthlessness and brutality. They are noted to use much older (and very patched-up) Heresy-era armor and weaponry (in ''Red Tithe'' a squad carries around a [[Volkite Caliver\|volkite caliver]], an ''extremely'' rare piece of tech in the 41st millennium, and their 3rd Company captain wears a suit of [[Mark III: Iron Armour\|Mark III armour]] that bears an insignia indicating participation in the [[Unification Wars\|Terran Pacification War]] (their "first battle honour"), and in battle seem to be utterly silent, even when visiting bloody murder on their foes (just like the Sons of Malice, coincidence?). Oh yeah, and they are the only known Space Marine chapter decked out completely in the [[Mark V: Heresy Armour]], not the typical Aquilla Armour, for ''some reason''. They just ''really'' like the look I guess.

	Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.		Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.

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	{{topquote\|Y'know, the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’ they all come in and… they rip you to pieces.\| Ned Quint, ''Jaws''}}		{{topquote\|Y'know, the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn’t seem to be livin’… until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah, then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’ they all come in and… they rip you to pieces.\| Ned Quint, ''Jaws''}}

	The '''Carcharodons''' (High Gothic ''' ''Carcharodon Astra'' ''', low Gothic ''' ''Space Sharks'' ''') are a Loyalist [[Space Marine]] Chapter of unknown heritage. Little is known about them, aside from the fact that they usually appear amidst campaigns quietly and unannounced, and respond to threats with surprising ruthlessness and brutality. They are noted to use much older (and very patched-up) Heresy-era armor and weaponry (in ''Red Tithe'' a squad carries around a [[Volkite Caliver\|volkite caliver]], an ''extremely'' rare piece of tech in the 41st millennium, and their 3rd Company captain wears a suit of [[Mark III: Iron Armour\|Mark III armour]] that bears an insignia indicating participation in the [[Unification Wars\|Terran Pacification War]] (their "first battle honour"), and in battle seem to be utterly silent, even when visiting bloody murder on their foes (just like the Sons of Malice, coincidence?). Oh yeah, and they are the only known Space Marine chapter decked out completely in the [[Mark V: Heresy Armour]], not the typical Aquilla Armour, for ''some reason''. They just ''really'' like the look I guess.		The '''Carcharodons''' (High Gothic ''' ''Carcharodon Astra'' ''', low Gothic ''' ''Space Sharks'' ''', also known as ''The Trout'' or the '''Vlka Ootheca''') are a Loyalist [[Space Marine]] Chapter of unknown heritage. Little is known about them, aside from the fact that they usually appear amidst campaigns quietly and unannounced, and respond to threats with surprising ruthlessness and brutality. They are noted to use much older (and very patched-up) Heresy-era armor and weaponry (in ''Red Tithe'' a squad carries around a [[Volkite Caliver\|volkite caliver]], an ''extremely'' rare piece of tech in the 41st millennium, and their 3rd Company captain wears a suit of [[Mark III: Iron Armour\|Mark III armour]] that bears an insignia indicating participation in the [[Unification Wars\|Terran Pacification War]] (their "first battle honour"), and in battle seem to be utterly silent, even when visiting bloody murder on their foes (just like the Sons of Malice, coincidence?). Oh yeah, and they are the only known Space Marine chapter decked out completely in the [[Mark V: Heresy Armour]], not the typical Aquilla Armour, for ''some reason''. They just ''really'' like the look I guess.

	Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.		Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.

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	\|Founding = Either 2nd (according to a GW article) or 23rd (according to FFG) Basically '''Unknown'''		\|Founding = Either 2nd (according to a GW article) or 23rd (according to FFG) Basically '''Unknown'''
	\|Original Name = The T[[Space Wolves\|rout]]		\|Original Name = The T[[Space Wolves\|rout]]
	\|Successors of = [[Raven Guard]], but possibly chimeric ([[Night Lords]], [[ World Eaters]], etc. )		\|Successors of = [[Raven Guard]], but possibly chimeric ([[Night Lords]], [[ World Eaters]], etc. )
	\|Successor Chapters = None		\|Successor Chapters = None
	\|Chapter Master = [[Tyberos the Red Wake]]		\|Chapter Master = [[Tyberos the Red Wake]]
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	Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.		Very old records say they were sent out on a crusade outside the borders of Imperium-controlled space, for all intents and purposes, to preemptively kill anything that may or may not be a future threat to the Imperium of Man. And to our best knowledge, they were promptly forgotten about, because when they showed up again, no one knew who the hell they were or what side they were on.

	The Carcharodons "officially" return to the Imperial consciousness during the [[Badab War]], where it's kinda hinted that they're [[Raven Guard]] mutants or descended from those other deranged genocidal space marines - the [[Night Lords]]. Siding with the Loyalists in the conflict, the Chapter descended in strength upon the worlds of the [[Mantis Warriors]], and it is in this phase of the campaign that the Chapter's reputation for bloody violence was made known. With the Mantis Warriors forced to surrender, the Chapter was then set upon [[Badab]] itself. There they helped conclusively secure victory for the Imperials -- by detonating the reactors of the primary hives on the planet. The resultant tectonic upheavals eventually destroyed Badab, and to this day the [[Star Phantoms]] pin the blame on the Sharks for the losses they experienced in the hurried evacuation that followed, but the war was officially won.		The Carcharodons "officially" return to the Imperial consciousness during the [[Badab War]], where it's kinda hinted that they're [[Raven Guard]] mutants or descended from those other deranged genocidal space marines - the [[Night Lords]]. Siding with the Loyalists in the conflict, the Chapter descended in strength upon the worlds of the [[Mantis Warriors]], and it is in this phase of the campaign that the Chapter's reputation for bloody violence was made known. With the Mantis Warriors forced to surrender, the Chapter was then set upon [[Badab]] itself. There they helped conclusively secure victory for the Imperials -- by detonating the reactors of the primary hives on the planet. The resultant tectonic upheavals eventually destroyed Badab, and to this day the [[Star Phantoms]] pin the blame on the Sharks for the losses they experienced in the hurried evacuation that followed, but the war was officially won.

	For its troubles, the Chapter returned to the Endymion Cluster one last time, ransacked the fortresses of the Mantis Warriors for material and their worlds for recruits, and quietly returned to the darkness of the galactic plane where it originally came from.		For its troubles, the Chapter returned to the Endymion Cluster one last time, ransacked the fortresses of the Mantis Warriors for material and their worlds for recruits, and quietly returned to the darkness of the galactic plane where it originally came from.
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	The Imperium at large is mostly unaware of their existence, and even the [[Inquisition]] seems to have only limited information about them. The Sharks' complete lack of glory-seeking behavior doesn't help with this; for example, a badly depleted company of Blood Angels were relieved by a Carcharodons attack force during the Seventh [[Black Crusade]], during which Sharks managed to impress/concern Papa Sang's sons by being even more batshit-crazy murderous in assault than the Angels were. When the dust settled, the Blood Angels were given a fancy memorial (and got a whole spaceport named after them) but the Space Sharks went unremembered, save for a few crumbling statues in a forgotten corner with blank obsidian disks for faces. Isolated parts of the Mechanicus are aware of them, partly because of the "Grey Tithe", but this is implied to be because they are hoarding the relics the Carcharodons retrieve for themselves, rather than returning them to the Mechanicum proper. Which is what the Mechanicus brass (pun!) would have done anyway so whatever.		The Imperium at large is mostly unaware of their existence, and even the [[Inquisition]] seems to have only limited information about them. The Sharks' complete lack of glory-seeking behavior doesn't help with this; for example, a badly depleted company of Blood Angels were relieved by a Carcharodons attack force during the Seventh [[Black Crusade]], during which Sharks managed to impress/concern Papa Sang's sons by being even more batshit-crazy murderous in assault than the Angels were. When the dust settled, the Blood Angels were given a fancy memorial (and got a whole spaceport named after them) but the Space Sharks went unremembered, save for a few crumbling statues in a forgotten corner with blank obsidian disks for faces. Isolated parts of the Mechanicus are aware of them, partly because of the "Grey Tithe", but this is implied to be because they are hoarding the relics the Carcharodons retrieve for themselves, rather than returning them to the Mechanicum proper. Which is what the Mechanicus brass (pun!) would have done anyway so whatever.
	[[File:Captain Gura.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|The Esteemed Captain Gawr Gura of the Carcharodons]]		[[File:Captain Gura.jpg\|300px\|thumb\|left\|The Esteemed Captain Gawr Gura of the Carcharodons]]
	A few members of the Inquisition have naturally raised concerns about this apparently undocumented force of Astartes just wandering around the galaxy with a predilection for wholesale slaughter and leaving very few survivors on either side when they're done. As an example from ''Carcharodons: Outer Dark'', in order to force a [[Genestealer Cult]] out into the open on a Shrine World, the Carcharodons gave the order to shut down every temple and pilgrimage site on the planet, knowing that this would cause mass civil unrest and thus force the cult to move ahead with their plans prematurely. [[Just as planned\|It ended up totally working]] and disrupting the imminent Tyranid invasion, but it also turned out that there were so many cultists on the planet that the Carcharodons decided "fuck it, the Emperor can sort them out" and promptly started just killing everyone at hand with the help of some Ashen Claws renegade Marines they'd invited along for the ride. There was only one survivor left from the ensuing chaos afterwards: an inquisitorial aide who had also been the sole survivor of the events of ''Red Tithe'' and had now witnessed a) a Space Marine force of questionable loyalty slaughtering a planet's population wholesale, b) while being allied with genuinely renegade space marines, and c) had also seen a Carcharodons Librarian apparently being partly bonded to a daemon that had been haunting her too. Loyalist chapters have been exterminated for far less. <s>Well, not really. The slaughter was justified and usually the Imperium would have used Exterminatus in that situation instead of killing everyone conventionally.</s> [[Flame Falcons\|Well, yes really.]] Ironically this means they “saved” the planet... [[Grimdark\|Just not the population]].		A few members of the Inquisition have naturally raised concerns about this apparently undocumented force of Astartes just wandering around the galaxy with a predilection for wholesale slaughter and leaving very few survivors on either side when they're done. As an example from ''Carcharodons: Outer Dark'', in order to force a [[Genestealer Cult]] out into the open on a Shrine World, the Carcharodons gave the order to shut down every temple and pilgrimage site on the planet, knowing that this would cause mass civil unrest and thus force the cult to move ahead with their plans prematurely. [[Just as planned\|It ended up totally working]] and disrupting the imminent Tyranid invasion, but it also turned out that there were so many cultists on the planet that the Carcharodons decided "fuck it, the Emperor can sort them out" and promptly started just killing everyone at hand with the help of some Ashen Claws renegade Marines they'd invited along for the ride. There was only one survivor left from the ensuing chaos afterwards: an inquisitorial aide who had also been the sole survivor of the events of ''Red Tithe'' and had now witnessed a) a Space Marine force of questionable loyalty slaughtering a planet's population wholesale, b) while being allied with genuinely renegade space marines, and c) had also seen a Carcharodons Librarian apparently being partly bonded to a daemon that had been haunting her too. Loyalist chapters have been exterminated for far less. <s>Well, not really. The slaughter was justified and usually the Imperium would have used Exterminatus in that situation instead of killing everyone conventionally.</s> [[Flame Falcons\|Well, yes really.]] Ironically this means they “saved” the planet... [[Grimdark\|Just not the population]].

	According to the short story ''The Last Planet'' by Edoardo Albert, one of their most precious relics is a piece of Void Glass, "given to the keeping of the Forgotten One by the Emperor Himself." Which raises... questions.		According to the short story ''The Last Planet'' by Edoardo Albert, one of their most precious relics is a piece of Void Glass, "given to the keeping of the Forgotten One by the Emperor Himself." Which raises... questions.