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	To add insult to injury the Theban army which broke the Spartiates were training their boys in a similar (and equally gay) manner only not as brutal (nor as paedo). Their core was the Sacred Band: 150 male couples hand picked based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.		To add insult to injury the Theban army which broke the Spartiates were training their boys in a similar (and equally gay) manner only not as brutal (nor as paedo). Their core was the Sacred Band: 150 male couples hand picked based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.

	The Spartan system had its admirers even in Athens herself, which also had an aristocracy, which survived under its nominal democracy - however much it chafed. These came back under the Thirty Tyrants, on-again off-again advised by no less than Socrates. Socrates' students, arrogant toffs to a man, included Alcibiades, Xenophon, and Plato. Plato was a Spartaboo to such an extent he promoted that we'd all be better off under a caste society ruled by a council of guardians. We've been dealing with that shit ever since, from the French Republic's ''~~comite~~ de salut public'' to the Politburo to Khomeini's ''wilayat al-faqih''.		The Spartan system had its admirers even in Athens herself, which also had an aristocracy, which survived under its nominal democracy - however much it chafed. These came back under the Thirty Tyrants, on-again off-again advised by no less than Socrates. Socrates' students, arrogant toffs to a man, included Alcibiades, Xenophon, and Plato. Plato was a Spartaboo to such an extent he promoted that we'd all be better off under a caste society ruled by a council of guardians. We've been dealing with that shit ever since, from the French Republic's ''comité de salut public'' to the Politburo to Khomeini's ''wilayat al-faqih''.

	==Legacy in Fiction==		==Legacy in Fiction==

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	To add insult to injury the Theban army which broke the Spartiates were training their boys in a similar (and equally gay) manner only not as brutal (nor as paedo). Their core was the Sacred Band: 150 male couples hand picked based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.		To add insult to injury the Theban army which broke the Spartiates were training their boys in a similar (and equally gay) manner only not as brutal (nor as paedo). Their core was the Sacred Band: 150 male couples hand picked based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.

	The Spartan system had its admirers even in Athens herself, which also had an aristocracy, which survived under its nominal democracy - however much it chafed. These came back under the Thirty Tyrants, on-again off-again advised by no less than Socrates. Socrates' students, arrogant toffs to a man, included Alcibiades, Xenophon, and Plato. Plato was a Spartaboo to such an extent he promoted that we'd all be better off under a caste society ruled by a council of guardians. We've been dealing with that shit ever since, from the French Republic's ''comite de ~~salud~~ public'' to the Politburo to Khomeini's ''wilayat al-faqih''.		The Spartan system had its admirers even in Athens herself, which also had an aristocracy, which survived under its nominal democracy - however much it chafed. These came back under the Thirty Tyrants, on-again off-again advised by no less than Socrates. Socrates' students, arrogant toffs to a man, included Alcibiades, Xenophon, and Plato. Plato was a Spartaboo to such an extent he promoted that we'd all be better off under a caste society ruled by a council of guardians. We've been dealing with that shit ever since, from the French Republic's ''comite de salut public'' to the Politburo to Khomeini's ''wilayat al-faqih''.

	==Legacy in Fiction==		==Legacy in Fiction==

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	'''Sparta''' was one of several Greek city states in the 1st millennium BC and among the most powerful in that region. It was notable for stratification ~~(With~~ Spartiate upper class, Perioeci artisans and merchants and Helots, agricultural slaves~~) and of~~ the extreme level of militarization it had among its ruling class~~. With~~ the ~~exception of the heir apparent~~, ~~the entire male Spartiate class was subjected to a brutal training regimen from childhood called the Agoge and then required to serve as kill squads against their Helot Farmers~~ and ~~then soldiers in the spartan army before~~ being ~~able to marry and after~~ that would drill constantly. This contrasted with the armies of the other greek city states. These were composed of informal forces civilian militia drawn from the general population who were expected to train and equip themselves.		'''Sparta''' was one of several Greek city states in the 1st millennium BC and among the most powerful in that region. Its society was notable for stratification: '''Spartiate''' upper class, '''Perioeci''' artisans and merchants, and '''Helots''' the agricultural slaves. Also noted for the extreme level of militarization it had among its ruling class because the Helots weren't just fellow Greeks, they were fellow ''Dorians'' and resented being Sparta's bitch. More on that, further.

	This system did produce the best [[Hoplite]]s in Greece (for a time at the least) as they held formation for longer ~~and breaking~~ formation in Hoplite warfare was just another way of saying "lost" ~~as well as being effective against the armies of the Achaemenid Empire, which was to be expected given that civilian hoplite militia did well against Achaemenid armies~~. ~~The Spartans cemented their fearsome reputation at~~ the ~~battle of Thermopylae~~, ~~where~~ the Spartan king Leonidas ~~lead a "mere" 300 Spartans warriors~~ into battle against tens to hundreds of thousands of invading Persians ~~(ignoring~~ the ~~fact that~~ the ~~Spartans brought their allies~~ from ~~across Peloponnese with them~~) ~~where they'd valiantly hold the~~ line until the Persians finally flanked them and killed them to the last man. ~~Even though they lost, the~~ battle helped mobilize Greece into repelling the invaders for good.		With the exception of the heir apparent, the entire male Spartiate class was subjected to a brutal training regimen from childhood called the Agoge and then required to serve as kill squads against their Helot Farmers and then soldiers in the spartan army before being able to marry and after that would drill constantly. This contrasted with the armies of the other Greek city states. These were composed of informal forces civilian militia drawn from the general population who were expected to train and equip themselves.

			We could also mention the... ''unique'' "mentoring" system Sparta had, wherein an older warrior would take a younger recruit under his wing, by which we mean [[Slaanesh\|under his body]]. No we are not exaggerating, even the Athenians - who weren't prudes - used "Spartanise" as we'd say "Sodomise". Somehow Zack Snyder forgot to mention these aspects of his heroes, these guardians of Greek freedom.

			This system did produce the best [[Hoplite]]s in Greece (for a time at the least) as they held formation for longer. Breaking formation in Hoplite warfare was just another way of saying "lost". When the Achaemenids came knocking, the Spartan king Leonidas led his hoplites and tens of thousands of Greek allies into battle against tens to hundreds of thousands of invading Persians, at Thermopylae. A Theban traitor pointed the Persians to a side-route; but the Greeks got tipped off, so the Spartan King and the legendary Three Hundred (well, plus another Seven Hundred from Thespiae, who intermittently get ignored and remembered) held that line until the other Greeks could get out and regroup. {{spoiler\|The Persians finally flanked them and killed them to the last man.}} That battle helped mobilize the rest of Greece into repelling the invaders for good.

	That said, the Spartan's brutal upbringing would ultimately prove to be their downfall. Since they were constantly killing their kids there was never more than about 8,000 of them at one time and the only way to get new ones was by reproduction. The Helots, which outnumbered the Spartiates considerably and did not like being constantly under their heel or having to put up with armed teenage wankers trying to kill them and other such bullshit were constantly rebelling and needed constant attention to be kept in line. They soon pushed themselves to their limit and afterwards their numbers dwindled away and were eventually defeated. The end of their prominence happened famously by Theban general Epaminondas at Battle of Leuctra and finally by the Macedonians and Romans, which could mobilize their various conquered peoples to provide vast numbers of soldiers.		That said, the Spartan's brutal upbringing would ultimately prove to be their downfall. Since they were constantly killing their kids there was never more than about 8,000 of them at one time and the only way to get new ones was by reproduction. The Helots, which outnumbered the Spartiates considerably and did not like being constantly under their heel or having to put up with armed teenage wankers trying to kill them and other such bullshit were constantly rebelling and needed constant attention to be kept in line. They soon pushed themselves to their limit and afterwards their numbers dwindled away and were eventually defeated. The end of their prominence happened famously by Theban general Epaminondas at Battle of Leuctra and finally by the Macedonians and Romans, which could mobilize their various conquered peoples to provide vast numbers of soldiers.

	To add insult to injury the Theban army ~~that~~ broke the Spartiates were ~~using~~ a similar ~~training~~ only not as brutal~~, named~~ the Sacred Band ~~which was~~ 150 ~~gay~~ couples hand ~~pick~~ based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.		To add insult to injury the Theban army which broke the Spartiates were training their boys in a similar (and equally gay) manner only not as brutal (nor as paedo). Their core was the Sacred Band: 150 male couples hand picked based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.

			The Spartan system had its admirers even in Athens herself, which also had an aristocracy, which survived under its nominal democracy - however much it chafed. These came back under the Thirty Tyrants, on-again off-again advised by no less than Socrates. Socrates' students, arrogant toffs to a man, included Alcibiades, Xenophon, and Plato. Plato was a Spartaboo to such an extent he promoted that we'd all be better off under a caste society ruled by a council of guardians. We've been dealing with that shit ever since, from the French Republic's ''comite de salud public'' to the Politburo to Khomeini's ''wilayat al-faqih''.

	==Legacy in Fiction==		==Legacy in Fiction==

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	**Especially the [[Minotaurs]]		**Especially the [[Minotaurs]]
	**Goes double for the [[Grey Knights]]		**Goes double for the [[Grey Knights]]
	*The Clans from Battletech		*[[The Clans]] from [[Battletech]]
	*The child soldier program in Metal Gear universe. Raiden is one of the notable example. Grey Fox is from a different but similar program than Raiden.		*The child soldier program in Metal Gear universe. Raiden is one of the notable example. Grey Fox is from a different but similar program than Raiden.
	**There are other variations created by the patriots, like the Genome Soldiers. It is a lot similar to the star wars stormtroopers down below (only Boba Fett is replaced by Big Boss for gene cloning). The well known Les Enfants Terribles project utilizing the super baby method. Using both Eva's womb and big boss's gene that gave birth to badasses like Solid snake and Liquid snake.		**There are other variations created by the patriots, like the Genome Soldiers. It is a lot similar to the star wars stormtroopers down below (only Boba Fett is replaced by Big Boss for gene cloning). The well known Les Enfants Terribles project utilizing the super baby method. Using both Eva's womb and big boss's gene that gave birth to badasses like Solid snake and Liquid snake.

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	'''Sparta''' was one of several Greek city states in the 1st millennium BC and among the most powerful in that region. It was notable for stratification (With Spartiate upper class, Perioeci artisans and merchants and Helots, agricultural slaves) and of the extreme level of militarization it had among its ruling class. With the exception of the heir apparent, the entire male Spartiate class was subjected to a brutal training regimen from childhood called the Agoge and then required to serve as kill squads against their Helot Farmers and then soldiers in the spartan army before being able to marry and after that would drill constantly. This contrasted with the armies of the other greek city states. These were composed of informal forces civilian militia drawn from the general population who were expected to train and equip themselves.		'''Sparta''' was one of several Greek city states in the 1st millennium BC and among the most powerful in that region. It was notable for stratification (With Spartiate upper class, Perioeci artisans and merchants and Helots, agricultural slaves) and of the extreme level of militarization it had among its ruling class. With the exception of the heir apparent, the entire male Spartiate class was subjected to a brutal training regimen from childhood called the Agoge and then required to serve as kill squads against their Helot Farmers and then soldiers in the spartan army before being able to marry and after that would drill constantly. This contrasted with the armies of the other greek city states. These were composed of informal forces civilian militia drawn from the general population who were expected to train and equip themselves.

	This system did produce the best ~~Hoplites~~ in Greece (for a time at the least) as they held formation for longer and breaking formation in Hoplite warfare was just another way of saying "lost" as well as being effective against the armies of the Achaemenid Empire, which was to be expected given that civilian hoplite militia did well against Achaemenid armies. The Spartans cemented their fearsome reputation at the battle of Thermopylae, where the Spartan king Leonidas lead a "mere" 300 Spartans warriors into battle against tens to hundreds of thousands of invading Persians (ignoring the fact that the Spartans brought their allies from across Peloponnese with them) where they'd valiantly hold the line until the Persians finally flanked them and killed them to the last man. Even though they lost, the battle helped mobilize Greece into repelling the invaders for good.		This system did produce the best [[Hoplite]]s in Greece (for a time at the least) as they held formation for longer and breaking formation in Hoplite warfare was just another way of saying "lost" as well as being effective against the armies of the Achaemenid Empire, which was to be expected given that civilian hoplite militia did well against Achaemenid armies. The Spartans cemented their fearsome reputation at the battle of Thermopylae, where the Spartan king Leonidas lead a "mere" 300 Spartans warriors into battle against tens to hundreds of thousands of invading Persians (ignoring the fact that the Spartans brought their allies from across Peloponnese with them) where they'd valiantly hold the line until the Persians finally flanked them and killed them to the last man. Even though they lost, the battle helped mobilize Greece into repelling the invaders for good.

	That said, the Spartan's brutal upbringing would ultimately prove to be their downfall. Since they were constantly killing their kids there was never more than about 8,000 of them at one time and the only way to get new ones was by reproduction. The Helots, which outnumbered the Spartiates considerably and did not like being constantly under their heel or having to put up with armed teenage wankers trying to kill them and other such bullshit were constantly rebelling and needed constant attention to be kept in line. They soon pushed themselves to their limit and afterwards their numbers dwindled away and were eventually defeated. The end of their prominence happened famously by Theban general Epaminondas at Battle of Leuctra and finally by the Macedonians and Romans, which could mobilize their various conquered peoples to provide vast numbers of soldiers.		That said, the Spartan's brutal upbringing would ultimately prove to be their downfall. Since they were constantly killing their kids there was never more than about 8,000 of them at one time and the only way to get new ones was by reproduction. The Helots, which outnumbered the Spartiates considerably and did not like being constantly under their heel or having to put up with armed teenage wankers trying to kill them and other such bullshit were constantly rebelling and needed constant attention to be kept in line. They soon pushed themselves to their limit and afterwards their numbers dwindled away and were eventually defeated. The end of their prominence happened famously by Theban general Epaminondas at Battle of Leuctra and finally by the Macedonians and Romans, which could mobilize their various conquered peoples to provide vast numbers of soldiers.

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	**There are other variations created by the patriots, like the Genome Soldiers. It is a lot similar to the star wars stormtroopers down below (only Boba Fett is replaced by Big Boss for gene cloning). The well known Les Enfants Terribles project utilizing the super baby method. Using both Eva's womb and big boss's gene that gave birth to badasses like Solid snake and Liquid snake.		**There are other variations created by the patriots, like the Genome Soldiers. It is a lot similar to the star wars stormtroopers down below (only Boba Fett is replaced by Big Boss for gene cloning). The well known Les Enfants Terribles project utilizing the super baby method. Using both Eva's womb and big boss's gene that gave birth to badasses like Solid snake and Liquid snake.
	** Later on they just said fuck it and started using VR training and nanomachines to program soldiers. Later on in Metal Gear Rising, children of other poor third war country were kidnapped and their brain were put into some sort of simulator where they play [[Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine]] in actual experience(with pain and all that). The children's brain were then put into a cyborg body as a "graduation present."		** Later on they just said fuck it and started using VR training and nanomachines to program soldiers. Later on in Metal Gear Rising, children of other poor third war country were kidnapped and their brain were put into some sort of simulator where they play [[Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine]] in actual experience(with pain and all that). The children's brain were then put into a cyborg body as a "graduation present."
	*Spartans (not even trying to be subtle) from Halo. <strike> Though it should be noted that the program was impractical </strike> the Spartan II program was effective it just took eight years and as much money as an entire unsc fleet. The later Spartan IV program did away with ~~the Spartan way~~ and is much more cost effective (yah spartan IIs and IIIs rip through IVs). (why dose no one remember the IIIs they actually outperformed the IIs and IVs while costing a lot less) (I'd question that, the IIIs were meant to be disposable ones & most don't even have energy shielded armor. Their advantages are numbers, ease of production & generally a "More but weaker" mentality. Of course, they're also the least publicized IRL as IIs have virtually all of Halo & the IVs have Halo 4 onward. What do IIIs have in comparison, Reach? Even that was a highly exceptional team with equipment equaling the IIs including one II in the team. The average Noble Team member is leaps beyond the average III.)		*Spartans (not even trying to be subtle) from Halo. <strike> Though it should be noted that the program was impractical </strike> the Spartan II program was effective it just took eight years and as much money as an entire unsc fleet. The later Spartan IV program did away with child soldier aspect and is much more cost effective (yah spartan IIs and IIIs rip through IVs). (why dose no one remember the IIIs they actually outperformed the IIs and IVs while costing a lot less) (I'd question that, the IIIs were meant to be disposable ones & most don't even have energy shielded armor. Their advantages are numbers, ease of production & generally a "More but weaker" mentality. Of course, they're also the least publicized IRL as IIs have virtually all of Halo & the IVs have Halo 4 onward. What do IIIs have in comparison, Reach? Even that was a highly exceptional team with equipment equaling the IIs including one II in the team. The average Noble Team member is leaps beyond the average III.)
	* Even subtler, the Spartan Federation from [[Alpha Centauri]] - the faction has a Morale bonus and an Industry penalty, therefore all its units are superior in combat but take longer to produce, tending to result in a relatively small army of elite soldiers. It also enjoys a Police bonus, which helps to keep the revolting <strike>Helot</strike> drone scum in line.		* Even subtler, the Spartan Federation from [[Alpha Centauri]] - the faction has a Morale bonus and an Industry penalty, therefore all its units are superior in combat but take longer to produce, tending to result in a relatively small army of elite soldiers. It also enjoys a Police bonus, which helps to keep the revolting <strike>Helot</strike> drone scum in line.
	* [[Star Wars]] Stormtroopers, really. Only the cloned ones, though. The academies that produce officers for the Imperial Army and Imperial Navy also produce Stormtrooper Corps privates (and some, such as Carida, specialize in that).		* [[Star Wars]] Stormtroopers, really. Only the cloned ones, though, especially the ones that learned directly from their Mandolarian fore-bearers. The academies that produce officers for the Imperial Army and Imperial Navy also produce Stormtrooper Corps privates (and some, such as Carida, specialize in that).

	This does ''not'' mean that you won't end up with several hundred extremely capable, elite warriors. You'll get your fighters, most certainly, but you'll also have the corpses of many more who have taken up valuable resources that could have been more normal warriors. Additionally, a force this small will be highly vulnerable to an enemy that relies on attrition tactics (I.E: Wearing down the enemy with prolonged warfare), as the spartan-type army simply will not be able to keep up the fight against an enemy who can easily replace their losses in quick succession.		This does ''not'' mean that you won't end up with several hundred extremely capable, elite warriors. You'll get your fighters, most certainly, but you'll also have the corpses of many more who have taken up valuable resources that could have been more normal warriors. Additionally, a force this small will be highly vulnerable to an enemy that relies on attrition tactics (I.E: Wearing down the enemy with prolonged warfare), as the spartan-type army simply will not be able to keep up the fight against an enemy who can easily replace their losses in quick succession.

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	'''Sparta''' was one of several Greek city states in the 1st millennium BC and among the most powerful in that region. It was notable for stratification (With Spartiate upper class, Perioeci artisans and merchants and Helots, agricultural slaves) and of the extreme level of militarization it had among its ruling class. With the exception of the heir apparent, the entire male Spartiate class was subjected to a brutal training regimen from childhood called the Agoge and then required to serve as kill squads against their Helot Farmers and then soldiers in the spartan army before being able to marry and after that would drill constantly. This contrasted with the armies of the other greek city states. These were composed of informal forces civilian militia drawn from the general population who were expected to train and equip themselves.		'''Sparta''' was one of several Greek city states in the 1st millennium BC and among the most powerful in that region. It was notable for stratification (With Spartiate upper class, Perioeci artisans and merchants and Helots, agricultural slaves) and of the extreme level of militarization it had among its ruling class. With the exception of the heir apparent, the entire male Spartiate class was subjected to a brutal training regimen from childhood called the Agoge and then required to serve as kill squads against their Helot Farmers and then soldiers in the spartan army before being able to marry and after that would drill constantly. This contrasted with the armies of the other greek city states. These were composed of informal forces civilian militia drawn from the general population who were expected to train and equip themselves.

	This system did produce the best Hoplites in Greece (for a time at the least) as they held formation for longer and breaking formation in Hoplite warfare was just another way of saying "lost" as well as being effective against the armies of the Achaemenid Empire, which was to be expected given that civilian hoplite militia did well against Achaemenid armies. That said would ultimately prove to be their downfall. Since they were constantly killing their kids there was never more than about 8,000 of them at one time and the only way to get new ones was by reproduction. The Helots, which outnumbered the Spartiates considerably and did not like being constantly under their heel or having to put up with armed teenage wankers trying to kill them and other such bullshit were constantly rebelling and needed constant attention to be kept in line. They soon pushed themselves to their limit and afterwards their numbers dwindled away and were eventually defeated. The end of their prominence happened famously by Theban general Epaminondas at Battle of Leuctra and finally by the Macedonians and Romans, which could mobilize their various conquered peoples to provide vast numbers of soldiers.		This system did produce the best Hoplites in Greece (for a time at the least) as they held formation for longer and breaking formation in Hoplite warfare was just another way of saying "lost" as well as being effective against the armies of the Achaemenid Empire, which was to be expected given that civilian hoplite militia did well against Achaemenid armies. The Spartans cemented their fearsome reputation at the battle of Thermopylae, where the Spartan king Leonidas lead a "mere" 300 Spartans warriors into battle against tens to hundreds of thousands of invading Persians (ignoring the fact that the Spartans brought their allies from across Peloponnese with them) where they'd valiantly hold the line until the Persians finally flanked them and killed them to the last man. Even though they lost, the battle helped mobilize Greece into repelling the invaders for good.

			That said, the Spartan's brutal upbringing would ultimately prove to be their downfall. Since they were constantly killing their kids there was never more than about 8,000 of them at one time and the only way to get new ones was by reproduction. The Helots, which outnumbered the Spartiates considerably and did not like being constantly under their heel or having to put up with armed teenage wankers trying to kill them and other such bullshit were constantly rebelling and needed constant attention to be kept in line. They soon pushed themselves to their limit and afterwards their numbers dwindled away and were eventually defeated. The end of their prominence happened famously by Theban general Epaminondas at Battle of Leuctra and finally by the Macedonians and Romans, which could mobilize their various conquered peoples to provide vast numbers of soldiers.

	To add insult to injury the Theban army that broke the Spartiates were using a similar training only not as brutal, named the Sacred Band which was 150 gay couples hand pick based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.		To add insult to injury the Theban army that broke the Spartiates were using a similar training only not as brutal, named the Sacred Band which was 150 gay couples hand pick based solely on skill form their normal hoplite militia.

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	** Later on they just said fuck it and started using VR training and nanomachines to program soldiers. Later on in Metal Gear Rising, children of other poor third war country were kidnapped and their brain were put into some sort of simulator where they play [[Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine]] in actual experience(with pain and all that). The children's brain were then put into a cyborg body as a "graduation present."		** Later on they just said fuck it and started using VR training and nanomachines to program soldiers. Later on in Metal Gear Rising, children of other poor third war country were kidnapped and their brain were put into some sort of simulator where they play [[Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine]] in actual experience(with pain and all that). The children's brain were then put into a cyborg body as a "graduation present."
	*Spartans (not even trying to be subtle) from Halo. <strike> Though it should be noted that the program was impractical </strike> the Spartan II program was effective it just took eight years and as much money as an entire unsc fleet. The later Spartan IV program did away with the Spartan way and is much more cost effective (yah spartan IIs and IIIs rip through IVs). (why dose no one remember the IIIs they actually outperformed the IIs and IVs while costing a lot less) (I'd question that, the IIIs were meant to be disposable ones & most don't even have energy shielded armor. Their advantages are numbers, ease of production & generally a "More but weaker" mentality. Of course, they're also the least publicized IRL as IIs have virtually all of Halo & the IVs have Halo 4 onward. What do IIIs have in comparison, Reach? Even that was a highly exceptional team with equipment equaling the IIs including one II in the team. The average Noble Team member is leaps beyond the average III.)		*Spartans (not even trying to be subtle) from Halo. <strike> Though it should be noted that the program was impractical </strike> the Spartan II program was effective it just took eight years and as much money as an entire unsc fleet. The later Spartan IV program did away with the Spartan way and is much more cost effective (yah spartan IIs and IIIs rip through IVs). (why dose no one remember the IIIs they actually outperformed the IIs and IVs while costing a lot less) (I'd question that, the IIIs were meant to be disposable ones & most don't even have energy shielded armor. Their advantages are numbers, ease of production & generally a "More but weaker" mentality. Of course, they're also the least publicized IRL as IIs have virtually all of Halo & the IVs have Halo 4 onward. What do IIIs have in comparison, Reach? Even that was a highly exceptional team with equipment equaling the IIs including one II in the team. The average Noble Team member is leaps beyond the average III.)
			* Even subtler, the Spartan Federation from [[Alpha Centauri]] - the faction has a Morale bonus and an Industry penalty, therefore all its units are superior in combat but take longer to produce, tending to result in a relatively small army of elite soldiers. It also enjoys a Police bonus, which helps to keep the revolting <strike>Helot</strike> drone scum in line.
	* [[Star Wars]] Stormtroopers, really. Only the cloned ones, though. The academies that produce officers for the Imperial Army and Imperial Navy also produce Stormtrooper Corps privates (and some, such as Carida, specialize in that).		* [[Star Wars]] Stormtroopers, really. Only the cloned ones, though. The academies that produce officers for the Imperial Army and Imperial Navy also produce Stormtrooper Corps privates (and some, such as Carida, specialize in that).