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	To go into detail, Vancian Casting requires a caster to individually memorize each spell they want to cast for a day. Once expended, those spells are gone until they can be memorized again - it's like depleting a quiver of arrows. This means that if you can take away a [[wizard]]'s spellbook, they lose all ability to regain any spells they cast until they get their hands on it again. In contrast, Spontaneous Casting means that the spellcaster simply "knows" their spells, and can use their spells-per-day mechanic (called "Spell Slots") to fuel whichever spell they want as they want it. And when they run out of spell slots? A simple nap, and they're ready to go again!		To go into detail, Vancian Casting requires a caster to individually memorize each spell they want to cast for a day. Once expended, those spells are gone until they can be memorized again - it's like depleting a quiver of arrows. This means that if you can take away a [[wizard]]'s spellbook, they lose all ability to regain any spells they cast until they get their hands on it again. In contrast, Spontaneous Casting means that the spellcaster simply "knows" their spells, and can use their spells-per-day mechanic (called "Spell Slots") to fuel whichever spell they want as they want it. And when they run out of spell slots? A simple nap, and they're ready to go again!

	Spontaneous casters, unlike Vancian casters, generally can't learn spells from external spell-slots. This means that a [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)\|sorcerer]] will never have the breadth of utility options that a [[wizard]] will have, because their total spells known is smaller. But, potentially, a spontaneous caster will have more "encounter versatility", since a vancian caster is completely shafted if they are not given time to prepare their spells in advance, whilst a spontaneous caster can immediately use whichever of their spells known is necessary for the situation at hand.		Spontaneous casters, unlike Vancian casters, generally can't learn spells from external spell-slots. This means that a [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)\|sorcerer]] will never have the breadth of utility options that a [[wizard]] will have, because their total spells known is smaller. But, potentially, a spontaneous caster will have more "encounter versatility", since a vancian caster is completely shafted if they are not given time to prepare their spells in advance, whilst a spontaneous caster can immediately use whichever of their spells known is necessary for the situation at hand. Nearly all spontaneous casters cast off [[Charisma]].

	One variant of Spontaneous Casting originated with the [[Spirit Shaman]] class. Rather than known spells being set in stone when obtained, a Spirit Shaman picks his spells known each time he recovers spell slots. This variant would be used for [[Pathfinder]]'s [[Arcanist]] and [[Vitalist]], as well as many classes in 5th edition (see below).		One variant of Spontaneous Casting originated with the [[Spirit Shaman]] class. Rather than known spells being set in stone when obtained, a Spirit Shaman picks his spells known each time he recovers spell slots. This variant would be used for [[Pathfinder]]'s [[Arcanist]] and [[Vitalist]], as well as many classes in 5th edition (see below).
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	* [[Bloodrager]]: Barbarian with a bit of Sorcerer.		* [[Bloodrager]]: Barbarian with a bit of Sorcerer.
	* [[Favored Soul]]: Spontaneous casting from the [[Cleric]] list. Had three fundamental flaws that crippled it 1: Gave them [[Multiple Ability Dependency]] as [[Nerf]] to full casters that Clerics didn't get 2: One of the important things for a Cleric to do is to remove aliments during off days (Fight has been cursed? Better suck it up till you go back to town because the Favored Soul can't fix it). 3: Lack of [[Turn Undead]] made qualifying for most divine prestige classes impossible.		* [[Favored Soul]]: Spontaneous casting from the [[Cleric]] list. Had three fundamental flaws that crippled it 1: Gave them [[Multiple Ability Dependency]] as [[Nerf]] to full casters that Clerics didn't get 2: One of the important things for a Cleric to do is to remove aliments during off days (Fight has been cursed? Better suck it up till you go back to town because the Favored Soul can't fix it). 3: Lack of [[Turn Undead]] made qualifying for most divine prestige classes impossible.
	* [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]]: Spontaneously casts spells from the Druid ''and'' Ranger lists.		* [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]]: Spontaneously casts spells from the Druid ''and'' Ranger lists. Wisdom based.
	* [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]]: A spontaneous divine caster with its own list. Pairs it with some skill monkey ability.		* [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]]: A spontaneous divine caster with its own list. Pairs it with some skill monkey ability. Wisdom based.
	* [[Oracle]]: A [[Pathfinder]] creation to create a "core" divine magic full caster class using Spontaneous Casting. Fares better than Favored Soul did thanks to not being MAD, Mnemonic Vestments mitigating the aliment removal spells problem, and Pathfinder not using Prestige Classes much (and what were didn't need Turn Undead).		* [[Oracle]]: A [[Pathfinder]] creation to create a "core" divine magic full caster class using Spontaneous Casting. Fares better than Favored Soul did thanks to not being MAD, Mnemonic Vestments mitigating the aliment removal spells problem, and Pathfinder not using Prestige Classes much (and what were didn't need Turn Undead).
	* [[Skald]]: An angrier more martial Bard.		* [[Skald]]: An angrier more martial Bard.

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List of Spontaneous Caster Classes

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	==List of Spontaneous Caster Classes==		==List of Spontaneous Caster Classes==
	* [[Arcanist]]: Uses a variant as mentioned above.		* [[Arcanist]]: Uses a variant as mentioned above.
			* [[Rogue#Assassin\|Assassin]]: An unusual Intelligence based spontaneous caster that knows a few spells to help them be sneaky or make a clean getaway.
	* [[Bard]]: Was changed from [[Vancian Casting]] to this in 3rd edition.		* [[Bard]]: Was changed from [[Vancian Casting]] to this in 3rd edition.
	* [[Bloodrager]]: Barbarian with a bit of Sorcerer.		* [[Bloodrager]]: Barbarian with a bit of Sorcerer.

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	Spontaneous casters, unlike Vancian casters, generally can't learn spells from external spell-slots. This means that a [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)\|sorcerer]] will never have the breadth of utility options that a [[wizard]] will have, because their total spells known is smaller. But, potentially, a spontaneous caster will have more "encounter versatility", since a vancian caster is completely shafted if they are not given time to prepare their spells in advance, whilst a spontaneous caster can immediately use whichever of their spells known is necessary for the situation at hand.		Spontaneous casters, unlike Vancian casters, generally can't learn spells from external spell-slots. This means that a [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)\|sorcerer]] will never have the breadth of utility options that a [[wizard]] will have, because their total spells known is smaller. But, potentially, a spontaneous caster will have more "encounter versatility", since a vancian caster is completely shafted if they are not given time to prepare their spells in advance, whilst a spontaneous caster can immediately use whichever of their spells known is necessary for the situation at hand.

			One variant of Spontaneous Casting originated with the [[Spirit Shaman]] class. Rather than known spells being set in stone when obtained, a Spirit Shaman picks his spells known each time he recovers spell slots. This variant would be used for [[Pathfinder]]'s [[Arcanist]] and [[Vitalist]], as well as many classes in 5th edition (see below).

	This mechanic ultimately inspired the [[AEDU System]] of [[Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition]], and is the foundation of casting as a whole in [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]]; in 5e, the "Prepared Caster" classes have a Vancian-style ability to change their "spells known" during their down time, but maintain the Spontaneous caster's ability to cast whatever they want, so long as they have appropriate spells per day.		This mechanic ultimately inspired the [[AEDU System]] of [[Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition]], and is the foundation of casting as a whole in [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]]; in 5e, the "Prepared Caster" classes have a Vancian-style ability to change their "spells known" during their down time, but maintain the Spontaneous caster's ability to cast whatever they want, so long as they have appropriate spells per day.

	==List of Spontaneous Caster Classes==		==List of Spontaneous Caster Classes==
			* [[Arcanist]]: Uses a variant as mentioned above.
	* [[Bard]]: Was changed from [[Vancian Casting]] to this in 3rd edition.		* [[Bard]]: Was changed from [[Vancian Casting]] to this in 3rd edition.
	* [[Oracle]]: A [[Pathfinder]] creation to create a "core" divine magic full caster class using Spontaneous Casting.		* [[Bloodrager]]: Barbarian with a bit of Sorcerer.
			* [[Favored Soul]]: Spontaneous casting from the [[Cleric]] list. Had three fundamental flaws that crippled it 1: Gave them [[Multiple Ability Dependency]] as [[Nerf]] to full casters that Clerics didn't get 2: One of the important things for a Cleric to do is to remove aliments during off days (Fight has been cursed? Better suck it up till you go back to town because the Favored Soul can't fix it). 3: Lack of [[Turn Undead]] made qualifying for most divine prestige classes impossible.
			* [[Hunter (Pathfinder)\|Hunter]]: Spontaneously casts spells from the Druid ''and'' Ranger lists.
			* [[Inquisitor (Pathfinder)\|Inquisitor]]: A spontaneous divine caster with its own list. Pairs it with some skill monkey ability.
			* [[Oracle]]: A [[Pathfinder]] creation to create a "core" divine magic full caster class using Spontaneous Casting. Fares better than Favored Soul did thanks to not being MAD, Mnemonic Vestments mitigating the aliment removal spells problem, and Pathfinder not using Prestige Classes much (and what were didn't need Turn Undead).
			* [[Skald]]: An angrier more martial Bard.
	* [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Sorcerer]]: The original Spontaneous Caster, and the class for whom the mechanic was invented.		* [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)\|Sorcerer]]: The original Spontaneous Caster, and the class for whom the mechanic was invented.
			* [[Spirit Shaman]]: Spontaneous casting from the [[Druid]] class.
			* [[Summoner]]: Though spontaneous casting is largely secondary to the big beatstick they create.

			==List of Archetypes With Spontaneous Casting==
			* Eldritch Scion [[Magus]]
			* Cabalist [[Vigilante (Pathfinder)\|Vigilante]]

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'''Spontaneous Casting''' is a game mechanic introduced in [[Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition]] as a mainstream alternative to the traditional [[Dungeons & Dragons]] mechanic of [[Vancian Casting]]. It can be most simply summarized as a cross between Vancian Casting and a [[mana]] system.

To go into detail, Vancian Casting requires a caster to individually memorize each spell they want to cast for a day. Once expended, those spells are gone until they can be memorized again - it's like depleting a quiver of arrows. This means that if you can take away a [[wizard]]'s spellbook, they lose all ability to regain any spells they cast until they get their hands on it again. In contrast, Spontaneous Casting means that the spellcaster simply "knows" their spells, and can use their spells-per-day mechanic (called "Spell Slots") to fuel whichever spell they want as they want it. And when they run out of spell slots? A simple nap, and they're ready to go again!

Spontaneous casters, unlike Vancian casters, generally can't learn spells from external spell-slots. This means that a [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)|sorcerer]] will never have the breadth of utility options that a [[wizard]] will have, because their total spells known is smaller. But, potentially, a spontaneous caster will have more "encounter versatility", since a vancian caster is completely shafted if they are not given time to prepare their spells in advance, whilst a spontaneous caster can immediately use whichever of their spells known is necessary for the situation at hand.

This mechanic ultimately inspired the [[AEDU System]] of [[Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition]], and is the foundation of casting as a whole in [[Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition]]; in 5e, the "Prepared Caster" classes have a Vancian-style ability to change their "spells known" during their down time, but maintain the Spontaneous caster's ability to cast whatever they want, so long as they have appropriate spells per day.

==List of Spontaneous Caster Classes==
* [[Bard]]: Was changed from [[Vancian Casting]] to this in 3rd edition.
* [[Oracle]]: A [[Pathfinder]] creation to create a "core" divine magic full caster class using Spontaneous Casting.
* [[Sorcerer (Dungeons & Dragons)|Sorcerer]]: The original Spontaneous Caster, and the class for whom the mechanic was invented.

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