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1d4chan>Piroko: /* The History of Espionage */

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The History of Espionage

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	And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy English captains feast on the Spanish.		And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy English captains feast on the Spanish.

	Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft, to providing assistance to insurgents and criminals as long as they pick the right ~~victims~~.		Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft, to providing assistance to insurgents and criminals as long as they pick the right targets.

	== Spying as Job ==		== Spying as Job ==

1d4chan>Piroko: /* The History of Espionage */

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The History of Espionage

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	And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy English captains feast on the Spanish.		And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy English captains feast on the Spanish.

	Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft.		Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft, to providing assistance to insurgents and criminals as long as they pick the right victims.

	== Spying as Job ==		== Spying as Job ==

1d4chan>Piroko: /* The History of Espionage */

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The History of Espionage

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	And as for direct actions, after the Throckmorton Plot the ''Bond of Association'' was enacted, allowing Francis's spies to hunt down and assassinate anyone plotting to assassinate the monarch or usurp the throne, wherever they may be. It is unknown how many people were killed in England or beyond under this order, but the basic effect of it was to settle all accounts and get rid of people who'd been problems for decades.		And as for direct actions, after the Throckmorton Plot the ''Bond of Association'' was enacted, allowing Francis's spies to hunt down and assassinate anyone plotting to assassinate the monarch or usurp the throne, wherever they may be. It is unknown how many people were killed in England or beyond under this order, but the basic effect of it was to settle all accounts and get rid of people who'd been problems for decades.

	And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy ~~english~~ captains feast on the Spanish.		And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy English captains feast on the Spanish.

	Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft.		Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* The History of Espionage */

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The History of Espionage

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	And as for direct actions, after the Throckmorton Plot the ''Bond of Association'' was enacted, allowing Francis's spies to hunt down and assassinate anyone plotting to assassinate the monarch or usurp the throne, wherever they may be. It is unknown how many people were killed in England or beyond under this order, but the basic effect of it was to settle all accounts and get rid of people who'd been problems for decades.		And as for direct actions, after the Throckmorton Plot the ''Bond of Association'' was enacted, allowing Francis's spies to hunt down and assassinate anyone plotting to assassinate the monarch or usurp the throne, wherever they may be. It is unknown how many people were killed in England or beyond under this order, but the basic effect of it was to settle all accounts and get rid of people who'd been problems for decades.

			And going even further, this coincided with the first golden age of [[Pirate\|Piracy]]. Rather than fighting actual wars, the English simply issued letters of marque and let greedy english captains feast on the Spanish.

	Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft.		Basically all the pieces we consider part of a modern national intelligence operation were present in their government, from counter-intelligence, to mapping and monitoring of enemy activity, to the use of direct action activities as a form of statecraft.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* Operator as Job */

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Operator as Job

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	== Operator as Job ==		== Operator as Job ==

	[[Kommando\|Operators]] are much more clearly defined. They are almost always members (or former members) of their nation's military. The Geneva Convention isn't too friendly to infiltrators; soldiers caught behind enemy lines are liable to be shot on sight to this day. In the US for example, spy plane pilots resign from the military to INCREASE their legal protections should they be shot down in enemy territory, since technically they aren't soldiers.		[[Kommando\|Operators]] are much more clearly defined. They are almost always members (or former members) of their nation's military. The Geneva Convention isn't too friendly to infiltrators; soldiers caught behind enemy lines out of uniform are liable to be shot on sight to this day. In the US for example, spy plane pilots resign from the military to INCREASE their legal protections should they be shot down in enemy territory, since technically they aren't soldiers.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* Spying as Job */

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Spying as Job

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	What popular media thinks of as a spy is actually called an [[Kommando\|operator]], and they're quite rare. The normal job of being a spy is simply to be ''a person in a position to learn things''. Throughout history, this generally meant low income people close to people of power; maids, janitors, bartenders, (apostles,) etc. People who hear things and can be bought off. If caught, the only thing they "know" is who their handler is (the person they're selling info to).		What popular media thinks of as a spy is actually called an [[Kommando\|operator]], and they're quite rare. The normal job of being a spy is simply to be ''a person in a position to learn things''. Throughout history, this generally meant low income people close to people of power; maids, janitors, bartenders, (apostles,) etc. People who hear things and can be bought off. If caught, the only thing they "know" is who their handler is (the person they're selling info to).

			== Operator as Job ==

			[[Kommando\|Operators]] are much more clearly defined. They are almost always members (or former members) of their nation's military. The Geneva Convention isn't too friendly to infiltrators; soldiers caught behind enemy lines are liable to be shot on sight to this day. In the US for example, spy plane pilots resign from the military to INCREASE their legal protections should they be shot down in enemy territory, since technically they aren't soldiers.

1d4chan>Gilten at 12:46, 23 November 2022

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	{{topquote\|Knowledge is Power.\|Sir Francis Bacon}}		{{topquote\|Knowledge is Power.\|Sir Francis Bacon}}

	As long as people have been fighting, people have been trying to fight dirty in order to win. One of the oldest means of which is to use a spy. Or rather a "fucking spy", as literally everyone hates spies, even other spies.		As long as people have been fighting, people have been trying to fight dirty in order to win. One of the oldest means of which is to use a spy. Or rather a "[[Team Fortress 2\|fucking spy]]", as literally everyone hates spies, even other spies.

	==The History of Espionage==		==The History of Espionage==

1d4chan>Gilten: topquote

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	{{topquote\|If I determine the enemy's disposition of forces while I have no perceptible form, I can concentrate my forces while the enemy is fragmented. The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless: if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it nor the wise make plans against it.\|Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri paraphrasing Sun Tzu}}		{{topquote\|If I determine the enemy's disposition of forces while I have no perceptible form, I can concentrate my forces while the enemy is fragmented. The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless: if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it nor the wise make plans against it.\|Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri paraphrasing Sun Tzu}}
			{{topquote\|Knowledge is Power.\|Sir Francis Bacon}}

	As long as people have been fighting, people have been trying to fight dirty in order to win. One of the oldest means of which is to use a spy. Or rather a "fucking spy", as literally everyone hates spies, even other spies.		As long as people have been fighting, people have been trying to fight dirty in order to win. One of the oldest means of which is to use a spy. Or rather a "fucking spy", as literally everyone hates spies, even other spies.