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	Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.		Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.

	Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of ~~DeNille~~ for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...		Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of DeMille for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...

	They gave George Lucas total control over the merchandising rights.		They gave George Lucas total control over the merchandising rights.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* The Advanced Concept */

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The Advanced Concept

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	They gave George Lucas total control over the merchandising rights.		They gave George Lucas total control over the merchandising rights.

	In hindsight this decision goes up alongside IBM letting Microsoft sell ~~Windows~~ for all time business fails. Because obviously Star Wars didn't fail, it sold like $2 heroin, and so did all the toys.		In hindsight this decision goes up alongside IBM letting Microsoft sell DOS to anyone for all time business fails. Because obviously Star Wars didn't fail, it sold like $2 heroin, and so did all the toys.

	Today, studios desperately try to recreate that model, scrutinizing movies not for their artistic or entertainment value but rather for their potential to create a merch franchise.		Today, studios desperately try to recreate that model, scrutinizing movies not for their artistic or entertainment value but rather for their potential to create a merch franchise.

1d4chan>Piroko: /* The Advanced Concept */

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The Advanced Concept

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	{{topquote\|Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made!\|Spaceballs}}		{{topquote\|Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made!\|Spaceballs}}

	Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek~~, Dr Who,~~ or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.		Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.

	Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of DeNille for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...		Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of DeNille for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...

1d4chan>Piroko: /* The Advanced Concept */

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The Advanced Concept

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	{{topquote\|Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made!\|Spaceballs}}		{{topquote\|Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made!\|Spaceballs}}

	Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had ~~fundamentally~~ been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek, Dr Who, or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.		Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek, Dr Who, or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.

	Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of DeNille for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...		Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of DeNille for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...
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	In hindsight this decision goes up alongside IBM letting Microsoft sell Windows for all time business fails. Because obviously Star Wars didn't fail, it sold like $2 heroin, and so did all the toys.		In hindsight this decision goes up alongside IBM letting Microsoft sell Windows for all time business fails. Because obviously Star Wars didn't fail, it sold like $2 heroin, and so did all the toys.

	Today, studios desperately try to recreate that model, scrutinizing movies not for their artistic or entertainment value but rather for their potential to create a merch franchise.		Today, studios desperately try to recreate that model, scrutinizing movies not for their artistic or entertainment value but rather for their potential to create a merch franchise.

	==Why is it so popular?==		==Why is it so popular?==

1d4chan>Piroko: /* Why is it so popular? */

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Why is it so popular?

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	Anyway, that's the basic concept. As to how it's been handled in the interim, and especially since Lucas dropped the reins . . .		Anyway, that's the basic concept. As to how it's been handled in the interim, and especially since Lucas dropped the reins . . .

			==The Advanced Concept==
			{{topquote\|Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made!\|Spaceballs}}

			Star Wars fundamentally changed, perhaps even created, the concept of consumer entertainment. Prior to Star Wars, cinema had fundamentally been an artistic enterprise. While money-making was always a subtext of Hollywood, the concept of a media "franchise" was almost non-existent, save for cult fandoms of (then) niche programs like Star Trek, Dr Who, or Buck Rodgers. Movies were made because they had a story to tell, or to put a studio's leading talent to work.

			Star Wars was different. To the studios, the story was cliched garbage, the actors were nobodies, and there seemed nothing about it that would compete with the likes of DeNille for raw spectacle. They were certain it would fail, and so they made one critical concession in the negotiations...

			They gave George Lucas total control over the merchandising rights.

			In hindsight this decision goes up alongside IBM letting Microsoft sell Windows for all time business fails. Because obviously Star Wars didn't fail, it sold like $2 heroin, and so did all the toys.

			Today, studios desperately try to recreate that model, scrutinizing movies not for their artistic or entertainment value but rather for their potential to create a merch franchise.

	==Why is it so popular?==		==Why is it so popular?==

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1d4chan>Lord Grievous: I'd say its relevant enough to mention.

2023-06-13T00:43:37Z

I'd say its relevant enough to mention.

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	Whatever the case, CEO Big Iger briefly resigned in 2019... before being brought back in 2020 following severe financial and PR losses for Disney due to comparatively poor reception of the Disney canon, controversial statements from Disney staff against fans and shutdowns related to the global coronavirus pandemic. Disney preceded to rebuild that goodwill and hope with The Mandalorian, only for two later events to undermine it.		Whatever the case, CEO Big Iger briefly resigned in 2019... before being brought back in 2020 following severe financial and PR losses for Disney due to comparatively poor reception of the Disney canon, controversial statements from Disney staff against fans and shutdowns related to the global coronavirus pandemic. Disney preceded to rebuild that goodwill and hope with The Mandalorian, only for two later events to undermine it.

	The first was Disney's ~~poor treatment~~ of a leading actress from "The Mandalorian", Gina Carano, culminating in Gina being fired for political reasons regarding a social media post, ~~which even comparatively neutral news outlets like Newsweek and Forbes called Disney out on. Worse~~, ~~[[That Guy\|Disney didn't even inform Gina she'd been fired until she~~ was ~~partway through~~ a ~~work shift]]~~. The second was several poor quality media projects such as a comic series where one of the characters is an alien who's [[Derp\|essentially a rock named "Geode" that crews a spaceship named "Vessel".]] There have been sweeping changes and even a civil war in Disney-owned Lucasfilm between factions of staff supporting producers/directors Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau and staff supporting Lucasfilm president/film producer Kathleen Kennedy. Recent hints and events have suggested that Kathleen Kennedy's influence has been restricted, with Filoni and Faverau spearheading projects.		The first big problem was Disney's controversial handling of a situation involving leading actress from "The Mandalorian", Gina Carano, culminating in Gina being fired for political reasons regarding a social media post (not her first controversial post, or, as her later suggesting that the war in Ukraine was a government conspiracy shows, her last, but nevertheless caused an outcry). The second was several poor quality media projects such as a comic series where one of the characters is an alien who's [[Derp\|essentially a rock named "Geode" that crews a spaceship named "Vessel".]] There have been sweeping changes and even a civil war in Disney-owned Lucasfilm between factions of staff supporting producers/directors Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau and staff supporting Lucasfilm president/film producer Kathleen Kennedy. Recent hints and events have suggested that Kathleen Kennedy's influence has been restricted, with Filoni and Faverau spearheading projects.

	Things have also been not helped by evidence of fan art being stolen by Marvel Comics writers who then used them lazily in comics, posters, and other media. The fan relations are still very low with the exception of people like Timothy Zahn, Dave Filoni, and Jon Favreau. Common speculation on the major develops include rumors of a retcon of sequel trilogy but little evidence exists except for the planned project combining Clone Wars, Rebels, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Rangers of the New Republic, The Bad Batch, and possibly Andor and Obi-Wan.		Things have also been not helped by evidence of fan art being stolen by Marvel Comics writers who then used them lazily in comics, posters, and other media. The fan relations are still very low with the exception of people like Timothy Zahn, Dave Filoni, and Jon Favreau. Common speculation on the major develops include rumors of a retcon of sequel trilogy but little evidence exists except for the planned project combining Clone Wars, Rebels, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Rangers of the New Republic, The Bad Batch, and possibly Andor and Obi-Wan.
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	The upcoming stuff includes:		The upcoming stuff includes:
	* '''Ahsoka''': Live-action series by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni (the chads responsible for The Mandalorian, the latter also responsible for [[Star Wars:The Clone Wars\|The Clone Wars]], [[Star Wars:Rebels\|Rebels]] and the character of Ahsoka (and [[Star Wars:Resistance\|Resistance]] but [[heresy\|let's not talk about that]])) featuring the titular fan favorite character who made her live-action debut in The Mandalorian Season 2, starring Rosario Dawson and is a spin-off of The Mandalorian and will have cross-overs with it. Also has the live-action debut of [[tactical genius\|Thrawn]], who was name-dropped by Ahsoka in The Mandalorian as her quarry. Release date unknown but is confirmed to run only for one season. Her Lekku will actually be the correct length after [[/tg/ gets shit done\|fan complaint]] from the Mandalorian. Trailers show it will have the first ever orange lightsabers in live action courtesy of the Dark Side bad guys, one of whom had their role effected by the untimely death of his actor Ray Stevenson.		* '''Ahsoka''': Live-action series by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni (the chads responsible for The Mandalorian, the latter also responsible for [[Star Wars:The Clone Wars\|The Clone Wars]], [[Star Wars:Rebels\|Rebels]] and the character of Ahsoka (and [[Star Wars:Resistance\|Resistance]] but [[heresy\|let's not talk about that]])) featuring the titular fan favorite character who made her live-action debut in The Mandalorian Season 2, starring Rosario Dawson and is a spin-off of The Mandalorian and will have cross-overs with it. Also has the live-action debut of [[tactical genius\|Thrawn]], who was name-dropped by Ahsoka in The Mandalorian as her quarry. Release date unknown but is confirmed to run only for one season. Her Lekku will actually be the correct length after [[/tg/ gets shit done\|fan complaint]] from the Mandalorian. Trailers show it will have the first ever orange lightsabers in live action courtesy of the Dark Side bad guys, one of whom had their role effected by the untimely death of his actor Ray Stevenson, though to what extent remains to be seen.
	* '''Rangers of the New Republic''': <s>Live-action series and another spin-off of The Mandalorian, again by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni and is said to have cross-overs with The Mandalorian and Ahsoka. Not much is known at the moment but the name tells us at that it would focus on the titular galactic government, something we still don't know much about due to the world-building fuck-up of the sequel trilogy. Release date unknown. </s> Cancelled / put on hold, likely due to the firing of Gina Carano (who was expected to have a major role) ~~over a couple of~~ tweets.		* '''Rangers of the New Republic''': <s>Live-action series and another spin-off of The Mandalorian, again by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni and is said to have cross-overs with The Mandalorian and Ahsoka. Not much is known at the moment but the name tells us at that it would focus on the titular galactic government, something we still don't know much about due to the world-building fuck-up of the sequel trilogy. Release date unknown. </s> Cancelled / put on hold, likely due to the firing of Gina Carano (who was expected to have a major role) after controversies regarding her tweets.
	* '''The Acolyte''': Live-action series set during the High Republic-era, a thus-far unexplored era 100-300 years before the original movie during which the Republic was at it's peak. Release date unknown. Unfortunately, the [[SJW\|background]] of the director has led to fears that she is interested in something else than just telling a good story.		* '''The Acolyte''': Live-action series set during the High Republic-era, a thus-far unexplored era 100-300 years before the original movie during which the Republic was at it's peak. Release date unknown. Unfortunately, the [[SJW\|background]] of the director has led to fears that she is interested in something else than just telling a good story.
	* '''A Droid Story''': Animated series featuring R2-D2 and C-3PO and a new character, possibly a droid as well. That is all we know for now but will likely be targeted towards kids, just like the animated series Droids from the 80s that it seems to be inspired by. Release date unknown.		* '''A Droid Story''': Animated series featuring R2-D2 and C-3PO and a new character, possibly a droid as well. That is all we know for now but will likely be targeted towards kids, just like the animated series Droids from the 80s that it seems to be inspired by. Release date unknown.

115.70.44.117: /* Disney Canon */ Gina's social media posts unrelated to her firing are irrelevant, so no need to mention them.

2023-06-12T23:31:40Z

Disney Canon: Gina's social media posts unrelated to her firing are irrelevant, so no need to mention them.

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	Whatever the case, CEO Big Iger briefly resigned in 2019... before being brought back in 2020 following severe financial and PR losses for Disney due to comparatively poor reception of the Disney canon, controversial statements from Disney staff against fans and shutdowns related to the global coronavirus pandemic. Disney preceded to rebuild that goodwill and hope with The Mandalorian, only for two later events to undermine it.		Whatever the case, CEO Big Iger briefly resigned in 2019... before being brought back in 2020 following severe financial and PR losses for Disney due to comparatively poor reception of the Disney canon, controversial statements from Disney staff against fans and shutdowns related to the global coronavirus pandemic. Disney preceded to rebuild that goodwill and hope with The Mandalorian, only for two later events to undermine it.

	The first ~~big problem~~ was Disney's ~~controversial handling~~ of a ~~situation involving~~ leading actress from "The Mandalorian", Gina Carano, culminating in Gina being fired for political reasons regarding a social media post ~~(not her first controversial post, or, as her later suggesting that the war in Ukraine was a government conspiracy shows, her last, but nevertheless caused an outcry)~~, which even comparatively neutral news outlets like Newsweek and Forbes called Disney out on. The second was several poor quality media projects such as a comic series where one of the characters is an alien who's [[Derp\|essentially a rock named "Geode" that crews a spaceship named "Vessel".]] There have been ~~massive rumblings of change~~ and even a civil war in Disney-owned Lucasfilm between factions of staff supporting producers/directors Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau and staff supporting Lucasfilm president/film producer Kathleen Kennedy. Recent hints and events have suggested that Kathleen Kennedy's influence has been restricted, with Filoni and Faverau spearheading projects.		The first was Disney's poor treatment of a leading actress from "The Mandalorian", Gina Carano, culminating in Gina being fired for political reasons regarding a social media post, which even comparatively neutral news outlets like Newsweek and Forbes called Disney out on. Worse, [[That Guy\|Disney didn't even inform Gina she'd been fired until she was partway through a work shift]]. The second was several poor quality media projects such as a comic series where one of the characters is an alien who's [[Derp\|essentially a rock named "Geode" that crews a spaceship named "Vessel".]] There have been sweeping changes and even a civil war in Disney-owned Lucasfilm between factions of staff supporting producers/directors Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau and staff supporting Lucasfilm president/film producer Kathleen Kennedy. Recent hints and events have suggested that Kathleen Kennedy's influence has been restricted, with Filoni and Faverau spearheading projects.

	Things have also been not helped by evidence of fan art being stolen by Marvel Comics writers who then used them lazily in comics, posters, and other media. The fan relations are still very low with the exception of people like Timothy Zahn, Dave Filoni, and Jon Favreau. Common speculation on the major develops include rumors of a retcon of sequel trilogy but little evidence exists except for the planned project combining Clone Wars, Rebels, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Rangers of the New Republic, The Bad Batch, and possibly Andor and Obi-Wan.		Things have also been not helped by evidence of fan art being stolen by Marvel Comics writers who then used them lazily in comics, posters, and other media. The fan relations are still very low with the exception of people like Timothy Zahn, Dave Filoni, and Jon Favreau. Common speculation on the major develops include rumors of a retcon of sequel trilogy but little evidence exists except for the planned project combining Clone Wars, Rebels, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, Rangers of the New Republic, The Bad Batch, and possibly Andor and Obi-Wan.
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	The upcoming stuff includes:		The upcoming stuff includes:
	* '''Ahsoka''': Live-action series by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni (the chads responsible for The Mandalorian, the latter also responsible for [[Star Wars:The Clone Wars\|The Clone Wars]], [[Star Wars:Rebels\|Rebels]] and the character of Ahsoka (and [[Star Wars:Resistance\|Resistance]] but [[heresy\|let's not talk about that]])) featuring the titular fan favorite character who made her live-action debut in The Mandalorian Season 2, starring Rosario Dawson and is a spin-off of The Mandalorian and will have cross-overs with it. ~~Though not officially confirmed, is highly likely to feature~~ the live-action debut of [[tactical genius\|Thrawn]], who was name-dropped by Ahsoka in The Mandalorian as her quarry. Release date unknown but is confirmed to run only for one season. Her Lekku will actually be the correct length after [[/tg/ gets shit done\|fan complaint]] from the Mandalorian. Trailers show it will have the first ever orange lightsabers in live action courtesy of the Dark Side bad guys.		* '''Ahsoka''': Live-action series by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni (the chads responsible for The Mandalorian, the latter also responsible for [[Star Wars:The Clone Wars\|The Clone Wars]], [[Star Wars:Rebels\|Rebels]] and the character of Ahsoka (and [[Star Wars:Resistance\|Resistance]] but [[heresy\|let's not talk about that]])) featuring the titular fan favorite character who made her live-action debut in The Mandalorian Season 2, starring Rosario Dawson and is a spin-off of The Mandalorian and will have cross-overs with it. Also has the live-action debut of [[tactical genius\|Thrawn]], who was name-dropped by Ahsoka in The Mandalorian as her quarry. Release date unknown but is confirmed to run only for one season. Her Lekku will actually be the correct length after [[/tg/ gets shit done\|fan complaint]] from the Mandalorian. Trailers show it will have the first ever orange lightsabers in live action courtesy of the Dark Side bad guys, one of whom had their role effected by the untimely death of his actor Ray Stevenson.
	* '''Rangers of the New Republic''': <s>Live-action series and another spin-off of The Mandalorian, again by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni and is said to have cross-overs with The Mandalorian and Ahsoka. Not much is known at the moment but the name tells us at that it would focus on the titular galactic government, something we still don't know much about due to the world-building fuck-up of the sequel trilogy. Release date unknown. </s> Cancelled / put on hold, likely due to ~~ties being cut with~~ Gina Carano (who was expected to have a major role) ~~after controversies regarding her~~ tweets.		* '''Rangers of the New Republic''': <s>Live-action series and another spin-off of The Mandalorian, again by Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni and is said to have cross-overs with The Mandalorian and Ahsoka. Not much is known at the moment but the name tells us at that it would focus on the titular galactic government, something we still don't know much about due to the world-building fuck-up of the sequel trilogy. Release date unknown. </s> Cancelled / put on hold, likely due to the firing of Gina Carano (who was expected to have a major role) over a couple of tweets.
	* '''The Acolyte''': Live-action series set during the High Republic-era, a thus-far unexplored era 100-300 years before the original movie during which the Republic was at it's peak. Release date unknown. Unfortunately, the [[SJW\|background]] of the director has led to fears that she is interested in something else than just telling a good story.		* '''The Acolyte''': Live-action series set during the High Republic-era, a thus-far unexplored era 100-300 years before the original movie during which the Republic was at it's peak. Release date unknown. Unfortunately, the [[SJW\|background]] of the director has led to fears that she is interested in something else than just telling a good story.
	* '''A Droid Story''': Animated series featuring R2-D2 and C-3PO and a new character, possibly a droid as well. That is all we know for now but will likely be targeted towards kids, just like the animated series Droids from the 80s that it seems to be inspired by. Release date unknown.		* '''A Droid Story''': Animated series featuring R2-D2 and C-3PO and a new character, possibly a droid as well. That is all we know for now but will likely be targeted towards kids, just like the animated series Droids from the 80s that it seems to be inspired by. Release date unknown.

1d4chan>Lord Grievous at 14:04, 29 May 2023

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	* '''The Thrawn Trilogy''': The origination point for the EU despite not being the first Star Wars books published, and focuses on the conflict with the Imperial remnants left over after RotJ. Named for one of its two main villains, Grand Admiral Thrawn, who went on to become one of Star Wars most well-loved characters. Basically the story "The Force Awakens" wishes it was (also introduced the character Mara Jade, a sexy redhead that's everything Disney wishes Rey was and more). Revealed Lucas' ideas and concepts from abandoned drafts like the Republic capital planet Coruscant, later put into the Prequels.		* '''The Thrawn Trilogy''': The origination point for the EU despite not being the first Star Wars books published, and focuses on the conflict with the Imperial remnants left over after RotJ. Named for one of its two main villains, Grand Admiral Thrawn, who went on to become one of Star Wars most well-loved characters. Basically the story "The Force Awakens" wishes it was (also introduced the character Mara Jade, a sexy redhead that's everything Disney wishes Rey was and more). Revealed Lucas' ideas and concepts from abandoned drafts like the Republic capital planet Coruscant, later put into the Prequels.
	* '''The Han Solo Adventures''': Star's End was the second spinoff book written and the first good one. Hit store shelves before Empire Strikes Back was even in theaters. Han and Chewie are trying to get some work done on the Falcon and get volun-told to bust out some political prisoners to pay for it. The Z-95 Headhunter fighter comes from this one. Would have made for a better film than ''Solo'' did.		* '''The Han Solo Adventures''': Star's End was the second spinoff book written and the first good one. Hit store shelves before Empire Strikes Back was even in theaters. Han and Chewie are trying to get some work done on the Falcon and get volun-told to bust out some political prisoners to pay for it. The Z-95 Headhunter fighter comes from this one. Would have made for a better film than ''Solo'' did.
	*'''The Darth Bane Trilogy''': The origin of the Rule of Two for the ~~Sithin~~ Legends, along with a compelling protagonist and his apprentice. Excellent addition to Legends continuum, ~~but suffers from having to reconcile~~ Lucas' ideas with contradicting information from KotOR and TotJ .		*'''The Darth Bane Trilogy''': The origin of the Rule of Two for the Sith in Legends, along with a compelling protagonist and his apprentice. Excellent addition to Legends continuum, especially since it does a fairly good job of reconciling Lucas' ideas with contradicting information from KotOR and TotJ .
	* '''Cloak of Deception''': Luceno's prequel to the prequels, a political thriller, much more focused than ''The Phantom Menace''. Foreshadows ''Clones'' characters.		* '''Cloak of Deception''': Luceno's prequel to the prequels, a political thriller, much more focused than ''The Phantom Menace''. Foreshadows ''Clones'' characters.
	* '''Shatterpoint''': The Mace Windu spinoff, ''[[Heart of Darkness]]'' style with Samuel Jackson playing the Charles Marlow role. Windu cracks off lines like "we're going to beat him like a rented gong".		* '''Shatterpoint''': The Mace Windu spinoff, ''[[Heart of Darkness]]'' style with Samuel Jackson playing the Charles Marlow role. Windu cracks off lines like "we're going to beat him like a rented gong".