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	White Wolf's '''[[Storyteller System]]''', on whose chassis most of their games are built, has nine stats for each character, grouped into three sets of three as Physical, Mental and Social stats. These stats were measured in points or dots from 1-5. Every [[checks\|check]] involved a relevant stat and skill (measured from 0-5) to see how many dice you would roll. Stats are broadly applicable because every check must involve a stat, but there are fewer stats than skills. Furthermore, some reaction checks use only a stat and no skill.		White Wolf's '''[[Storyteller System]]''', on whose chassis most of their games are built, has nine stats for each character, grouped into three sets of three as Physical, Mental and Social stats. These stats were measured in points or dots from 1-5. Every [[checks\|check]] involved a relevant stat and skill (measured from 0-5) to see how many dice you would roll. Stats are broadly applicable because every check must involve a stat, but there are fewer stats than skills. Furthermore, some reaction checks use only a stat and no skill.

	'''[[Legend of the Five Rings]]''' uses a complicated system, with each element having a physical and mental stat (Agility and Intelligence for Fire, Reflexes and Awareness for Air, Strength and Perception for Water, and Stamina and Willpower for Earth), a Ring rating equal to the lowest of the two associated elemental stats (and your Rings affect all manner of [[derived ~~stats~~]] so [[dump stat\| leaving either body or mind too low]] isn't a great idea, especially for a caster), and a fifth Ring, Void, which plays by its own rules and effectively represents a pool of points to draw on for special tricks each day. Tests involve rolling a number of d10s equal to stat + skill, then totaling a number of dice equal to stat to get your final result.		'''[[Legend of the Five Rings]]''' uses a complicated system, with each element having a physical and mental stat (Agility and Intelligence for Fire, Reflexes and Awareness for Air, Strength and Perception for Water, and Stamina and Willpower for Earth), a Ring rating equal to the lowest of the two associated elemental stats (and your Rings affect all manner of [[derived stat]]s so [[dump stat\| leaving either body or mind too low]] isn't a great idea, especially for a caster), and a fifth Ring, Void, which plays by its own rules and effectively represents a pool of points to draw on for special tricks each day. Tests involve rolling a number of d10s equal to stat + skill, then totaling a number of dice equal to stat to get your final result.

	Its sister game, '''[[7th Sea]]'', has a much more straightforward set of stats: Brawn, Finesse, Resolve, Wits, and Panache. Novelly, all five stats are totally combat-critical, meaning there is no safe [[dump stat]] for any character in a scrap. Otherwise, resolution works like ''L5R'', rolling stat + skill in d10s and keeping a number equal to stat.		Its sister game, '''[[7th Sea]]''', has a much more straightforward set of stats: Brawn, Finesse, Resolve, Wits, and Panache. Novelly, all five stats are totally combat-critical, meaning there is no safe [[dump stat]] for any character in a scrap. Otherwise, resolution works like ''L5R'', rolling stat + skill in d10s and keeping a number equal to stat.

	The '''[[Iron Kingdoms]]''' RPG system is another 9-stats-system, with three stats for the Physical (Physique, Strength, Speed), Agile (Agility, Prowess, Poise) and Mental (Intelligence, Perception, Arcane) traits of the character in question, with these stats all having a particular role to fill in the game. As this system is [[Skub\|famous/infamous]] for being combat heavy (as the current edition is pretty much lifted from the [[Warmachine\|Wargames of the]] [[Hordes\|same setting]], most of these stats have are useful in combat. For example, Speed is the amount of inches your character can move in a turn, Poise and Prowess are for ranged and close combat respectively and Physique and Agility are for Armour Rating and Defense Rating respectively. The only stat really useless is probably Intelligence, though a good [[GM]] might allow a player to detect enemy weaknesses and strengths through some well timed Int-checks.		The '''[[Iron Kingdoms]]''' RPG system is another 9-stats-system, with three stats for the Physical (Physique, Strength, Speed), Agile (Agility, Prowess, Poise) and Mental (Intelligence, Perception, Arcane) traits of the character in question, with these stats all having a particular role to fill in the game. As this system is [[Skub\|famous/infamous]] for being combat heavy (as the current edition is pretty much lifted from the [[Warmachine\|Wargames of the]] [[Hordes\|same setting]], most of these stats have are useful in combat. For example, Speed is the amount of inches your character can move in a turn, Poise and Prowess are for ranged and close combat respectively and Physique and Agility are for Armour Rating and Defense Rating respectively. The only stat really useless is probably Intelligence, though a good [[GM]] might allow a player to detect enemy weaknesses and strengths through some well timed Int-checks.
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	Note in particular that the results are somewhat interesting: Among other things, Wizards have reasons to invest in Might, and Barbarians have reasons to invest in Intellect (their abilities last longer). (For what it's worth, the recruitable NPCs in the game are intentionally under-optimized, due to the designer feeling a need for them to be more versatile then powerful so they could fit in just about any party setup.)		Note in particular that the results are somewhat interesting: Among other things, Wizards have reasons to invest in Might, and Barbarians have reasons to invest in Intellect (their abilities last longer). (For what it's worth, the recruitable NPCs in the game are intentionally under-optimized, due to the designer feeling a need for them to be more versatile then powerful so they could fit in just about any party setup.)

			'''[[Pendragon]]''' has got either five stats or ''thirty-one'', depending on how you count. The listed statistics are all purely-physical, and consist of Size, Dexterity, Strength, Constitution, and Appearance. They mostly handle passive scores and [[derived stat]]s; the meat of combat is largely skill-based and the stats affect things like how easy you are to knock down, how much damage you do, or how easily you can turtle up. But virtually all (and we do mean ''all'') non-skill-based mental activity is governed by a list of twenty-six personality traits, organized into thirteen sets of opposing poles: Modest vs. Proud, Valorous vs. Cowardly, Prudent vs. Reckless, and so on.

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	[[Category:Game Mechanics]][[Category:Gamer Slang]]		[[Category:Game Mechanics]][[Category:Gamer Slang]]
	:''Not to be confused with [[Statistics]].''		:''Not to be confused with [[Statistics]].''
	'''Stats''' are one of the key mechanics near-universal to roleplaying games and war-games. Defining various statistics or proficiencies of a character, monster, vehicle, weapon, etc., stats provide a testable medium to compare against - basically, ability scores are what makes something /tg/ worthy as opposed to just a game of "let's pretend".		'''Stats''' are one of the key mechanics near-universal to roleplaying games and war-games. Defining various statistics or proficiencies of a character, monster, vehicle, weapon, etc., stats provide a testable medium to compare against - basically, ability scores are what makes something /tg/ worthy as opposed to just a game of "let's [[pretend]]".

	Stats differ from [[skills]] as "nature" differs from "nurture." Both describe what something can do, but stats are what something ''is'' and skills are what something has learned or acquired. Still, a system that uses both [[skills]] and stats may cause someone with high stats and little to no [[ranks]] in a skill to outperform someone with poor stats and high ranks in the skill. The importance of a stat may cause a [[God Stat]] or a [[Dump Stat]] if the stat is under-represented in the [[RAW]] of the game. A class that requires multiple high stats to function is said to have ''multiple ability dependency'', or [[MAD]].		Stats differ from [[skills]] as "nature" differs from "nurture." Both describe what something can do, but stats are what something ''is'' and skills are what something has learned or acquired. Still, a system that uses both [[skills]] and stats may cause someone with high stats and little to no [[ranks]] in a skill to outperform someone with poor stats and high ranks in the skill. The importance of a stat may cause a [[God Stat]] or a [[Dump Stat]] if the stat is under-represented in the [[RAW]] of the game. A class that requires multiple high stats to function is said to have ''multiple ability dependency'', or [[MAD]].

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	* "Constitution" boosts your HP.		* "Constitution" boosts your HP.
	* "Dexterity" boosts your speed, no matter what you're doing.		* "Dexterity" boosts your speed, no matter what you're doing.
	* "Perception" boosts your ability to Interrupt somebody in their action, and gives a small boost Accuracy.		* "Perception" boosts your ability to Interrupt somebody in their action, and gives a small boost to Accuracy.
	* "Intellect" boosts Area of Effect and Duration of all abilities for all classes.		* "Intellect" boosts Area of Effect and Duration of all abilities for all classes.
	* "Resolve" boosts your defenses against Interruption (from Perception) and a small boost to the game's version of [[Armor Class]].		* "Resolve" boosts your defenses against Interruption (from Perception) and a small boost to the game's version of [[Armor Class]].

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	[[Category:Game Mechanics]]		[[Category:Game Mechanics]][[Category:Gamer Slang]]
	:''Not to be confused with [[Statistics]].''		:''Not to be confused with [[Statistics]].''
	'''Stats''' are one of the key mechanics near-universal to roleplaying games and war-games. Defining various statistics or proficiencies of a character, monster, vehicle, weapon, etc., stats provide a testable medium to compare against - basically, ability scores are what makes something /tg/ worthy as opposed to just a game of "let's pretend".		'''Stats''' are one of the key mechanics near-universal to roleplaying games and war-games. Defining various statistics or proficiencies of a character, monster, vehicle, weapon, etc., stats provide a testable medium to compare against - basically, ability scores are what makes something /tg/ worthy as opposed to just a game of "let's pretend".

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	[[Category:Game Mechanics]]		[[Category:Game Mechanics]]
	:''Not to be confused with [[Statistics]].''		:''Not to be confused with [[Statistics]].''
	[[Stats]] are ~~a measurements~~ of a character ~~or objects inherent abilities. Example stats would be:~~		'''Stats''' are one of the key mechanics near-universal to roleplaying games and war-games. Defining various statistics or proficiencies of a character, monster, vehicle, weapon, etc., stats provide a testable medium to compare against - basically, ability scores are what makes something /tg/ worthy as opposed to just a game of "let's pretend".
	* for people: [[-4 Str\|strength]], ~~smarts~~, ~~magical mojo~~, ~~agility~~, ~~[[FATAL\|anal circumference]]~~.
	* for vehicles: move speed, ~~acceleration~~, ~~armour resilience, cargo capacity, size~~ of ~~cupholders~~.

	Stats differ from [[skills]] as "nature" differs from "nurture." Both describe what something can do, but stats are what something ''is'' and skills are what something has learned or acquired. Still, a system that uses both [[skills]] and stats may cause someone with high stats and little to no [[ranks]] in a skill to outperform someone with poor stats and high ranks in the skill. The importance of a stat may cause a [[God Stat]] or a [[Dump Stat]] if the stat is under-represented in the [[RAW]] of the game. A class that requires multiple high stats to function is said to have ''multiple ability dependency'', or [[MAD]].		Stats differ from [[skills]] as "nature" differs from "nurture." Both describe what something can do, but stats are what something ''is'' and skills are what something has learned or acquired. Still, a system that uses both [[skills]] and stats may cause someone with high stats and little to no [[ranks]] in a skill to outperform someone with poor stats and high ranks in the skill. The importance of a stat may cause a [[God Stat]] or a [[Dump Stat]] if the stat is under-represented in the [[RAW]] of the game. A class that requires multiple high stats to function is said to have ''multiple ability dependency'', or [[MAD]].
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	Methods of generating them vary. Sometimes, the player "rolls" for them in various ways, sometimes they spend points to raise them above a minimum. While the former has many well-documented issues, principally players getting screwed by their dice, the latter can [[Linear Build Quadratic EXP\| incentivize perverse methods of character generation]]. For the most part, though, they've been smoothed over with time and experience: few games that roll for stats require "honest rolls," while few modern point buys don't have a few safety rails in place.		Methods of generating them vary. Sometimes, the player "rolls" for them in various ways, sometimes they spend points to raise them above a minimum. While the former has many well-documented issues, principally players getting screwed by their dice, the latter can [[Linear Build Quadratic EXP\| incentivize perverse methods of character generation]]. For the most part, though, they've been smoothed over with time and experience: few games that roll for stats require "honest rolls," while few modern point buys don't have a few safety rails in place.

	~~See also~~ [[Ability Scores]].		[[Dungeons & Dragons]] has one of the most iconic line-up of stats, called Ability Scores, in the form of [[Strength]], [[Dexterity]], [[Constitution]], [[Intelligence]], [[Wisdom]] and [[Charisma]]. Three physical, three mental. This line-up is so iconic that most other RPG ability score sets boil down to renaming and sometimes expanding (or, more rarely, contracting) this list.

			In war games, stat lines are used to keep combat flowing smoothly. For example, in [[Warhammer]] and [[Warhammer 40000]], you have the stats of Movement (how far a unit can move in a turn), Weapon Skill (likelihood of hitting with a melee attack), Ballistic Skill (likelihood of hitting with a ranged attack), Strength (ability to inflict damage), Toughness (ability to withstand damage), Wounds (how much damage it can take), Initiative (how fast its attacks are) and Leadership (morale).

	==Examples==		==Examples==
	~~'''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]''' has the most-imitated set of stats ever: [[Strength]], [[Intelligence]], [[Wisdom]], [[Dexterity]], [[Constitution]], and [[Charisma]]. Three physical, three mental.~~

	'''[[GURPS]]''' has four main stats:		'''[[GURPS]]''' has four main stats:
	*'''ST''': Strength. Well, it's physical strength. Works mostly like D&D, BUT also determined hit points.		*'''ST''': Strength. Well, it's physical strength. Works mostly like D&D, BUT also determined hit points.

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	'''[[Ironclaw]]''' stats for people Race, Career, Mind, Body, Speed and Will, each measured in the size of a die. Checks are done by rolling dice for the stat(s) relevant to the task at <s>paw</s> hand, adding the skill die if you have it, and comparing the sum to a target number.		'''[[Ironclaw]]''' stats for people Race, Career, Mind, Body, Speed and Will, each measured in the size of a die. Checks are done by rolling dice for the stat(s) relevant to the task at <s>paw</s> hand, adding the skill die if you have it, and comparing the sum to a target number.

	White Wolf's '''[[Storyteller System]]''', on whose chassis most of their games are built, has nine stats for each character, grouped into three sets of three as Physical, Mental and Social stats. These stats were measured in points or dots from 1-5. Every [[checks\|check]] involved a relevant stat and skill (measured from 0-5) to see how many dice you would roll. Stats are broadly applicable because every check must involve a stat, but there are fewer stats than skills. Furthermore, some reaction checks ~~would~~ use only a stat and no skill.		White Wolf's '''[[Storyteller System]]''', on whose chassis most of their games are built, has nine stats for each character, grouped into three sets of three as Physical, Mental and Social stats. These stats were measured in points or dots from 1-5. Every [[checks\|check]] involved a relevant stat and skill (measured from 0-5) to see how many dice you would roll. Stats are broadly applicable because every check must involve a stat, but there are fewer stats than skills. Furthermore, some reaction checks use only a stat and no skill.

			'''[[Legend of the Five Rings]]''' uses a complicated system, with each element having a physical and mental stat (Agility and Intelligence for Fire, Reflexes and Awareness for Air, Strength and Perception for Water, and Stamina and Willpower for Earth), a Ring rating equal to the lowest of the two associated elemental stats (and your Rings affect all manner of [[derived stats]] so [[dump stat\| leaving either body or mind too low]] isn't a great idea, especially for a caster), and a fifth Ring, Void, which plays by its own rules and effectively represents a pool of points to draw on for special tricks each day. Tests involve rolling a number of d10s equal to stat + skill, then totaling a number of dice equal to stat to get your final result.

			Its sister game, '''[[7th Sea]]'', has a much more straightforward set of stats: Brawn, Finesse, Resolve, Wits, and Panache. Novelly, all five stats are totally combat-critical, meaning there is no safe [[dump stat]] for any character in a scrap. Otherwise, resolution works like ''L5R'', rolling stat + skill in d10s and keeping a number equal to stat.

	The '''[[Iron Kingdoms]]''' RPG system is another 9-stats-system, with three stats for the Physical (Physique, Strength, Speed), Agile (Agility, Prowess, Poise) and Mental (Intelligence, Perception, Arcane) traits of the character in question, with these stats all having a particular role to fill in the game. As this system is [[Skub\|famous/infamous]] for being combat heavy (as the current edition is pretty much lifted from the [[Warmachine\|Wargames of the]] [[Hordes\|same setting]], most of these stats have are useful in combat. For example, Speed is the amount of inches your character can move in a turn, Poise and Prowess are for ranged and close combat respectively and Physique and Agility are for Armour Rating and Defense Rating respectively. The only stat really useless is probably Intelligence, though a good [[GM]] might allow a player to detect enemy weaknesses and strengths through some well timed Int-checks.		The '''[[Iron Kingdoms]]''' RPG system is another 9-stats-system, with three stats for the Physical (Physique, Strength, Speed), Agile (Agility, Prowess, Poise) and Mental (Intelligence, Perception, Arcane) traits of the character in question, with these stats all having a particular role to fill in the game. As this system is [[Skub\|famous/infamous]] for being combat heavy (as the current edition is pretty much lifted from the [[Warmachine\|Wargames of the]] [[Hordes\|same setting]], most of these stats have are useful in combat. For example, Speed is the amount of inches your character can move in a turn, Poise and Prowess are for ranged and close combat respectively and Physique and Agility are for Armour Rating and Defense Rating respectively. The only stat really useless is probably Intelligence, though a good [[GM]] might allow a player to detect enemy weaknesses and strengths through some well timed Int-checks.

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	'''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]''' has the most-imitated set of stats ever: [[Strength]], [[Intelligence]], [[Wisdom]], [[Dexterity]], [[Constitution]], and [[Charisma]]. Three physical, three mental.		'''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]''' has the most-imitated set of stats ever: [[Strength]], [[Intelligence]], [[Wisdom]], [[Dexterity]], [[Constitution]], and [[Charisma]]. Three physical, three mental.

	'''[[GURPS]]''' has ~~only~~ four stats:		'''[[GURPS]]''' has four main stats:
	*'''ST''': Strength. Well, it's physical strength. Works mostly like D&D, BUT also determined hit points.		*'''ST''': Strength. Well, it's physical strength. Works mostly like D&D, BUT also determined hit points.
	*'''DX''': Dexterity. Controls about half of the skills in the game, so more expensive than Strength. Also controls your accuracy with weapons.		*'''DX''': Dexterity. Controls about half of the skills in the game, so more expensive than Strength. Also controls your accuracy with weapons.

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	* "Constitution" boosts your HP.		* "Constitution" boosts your HP.
	* "Dexterity" boosts your speed, no matter what you're doing.		* "Dexterity" boosts your speed, no matter what you're doing.
	* "Perception" boosts your ability to Interrupt somebody in their action, and Accuracy.		* "Perception" boosts your ability to Interrupt somebody in their action, and gives a small boost Accuracy.
	* "Intellect" boosts Area of Effect and Duration of all abilities for all classes.		* "Intellect" boosts Area of Effect and Duration of all abilities for all classes.
	* "Resolve" boosts your defenses against Interruption (from Perception)		* "Resolve" boosts your defenses against Interruption (from Perception) and a small boost to the game's version of [[Armor Class]].
	** In addition to the above, each stat is paired with another to increase one of three saves.		** In addition to the above, each stat is paired with another to increase one of three saves.

	Note in particular that the results are somewhat interesting: Among other things, Wizards have reasons to invest in Might, and Barbarians have reasons to invest in Intellect (their abilities last longer). ~~Unfortunately this means everyone feels very similar since everyone only has slightly different numbers instead of meaningful disparities~~.		Note in particular that the results are somewhat interesting: Among other things, Wizards have reasons to invest in Might, and Barbarians have reasons to invest in Intellect (their abilities last longer). (For what it's worth, the recruitable NPCs in the game are intentionally under-optimized, due to the designer feeling a need for them to be more versatile then powerful so they could fit in just about any party setup.)