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Ripper Gun

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	The Ogryn Ripper Gun is a large, brutal, and simple weapon designed for use by Imperial Guard's similarly-large, brutal and simple Ogryns. It is a heavy automatic shotgun, built as simply and solidly as possible in order to survive being used by the Ogryns who use it as much as a club as a firearm. Think of it as the high-tech grandson of the Scatter Cannon. It can fire either a heavy shell or a hail of shot. By design, the Ripper Gun does not have a long range to better fit the Ogryns' instincts for close combat, and many also have a fire rate limiter to prevent them from firing off an entire magazine's worth of ammunition at once.		The Ogryn Ripper Gun is a large, brutal, and simple weapon designed for use by Imperial Guard's similarly-large, brutal and simple Ogryns. It is a heavy automatic shotgun, built as simply and solidly as possible in order to survive being used by the Ogryns who use it as much as a club as a firearm. Think of it as the high-tech grandson of the Scatter Cannon. It can fire either a heavy shell or a hail of shot. By design, the Ripper Gun does not have a long range to better fit the Ogryns' instincts for close combat, and many also have a fire rate limiter to prevent them from firing off an entire magazine's worth of ammunition at once.

	Ripper Guns are intended to be fired to soften up the enemy before the Ogryns charge into close combat, and are built particularly robustly so that they can stand up to the Ogryns' use of them as clubs in melee. Ripper Guns can also be fitted with Ripper Saws. A Ripper Saw is, as the name implies, a saw blade that is attached to the end of a Ripper Gun which is intended to provide the Ogryn with an effective close combat melee weapon once they close with the enemy. The Ripper Gun is one of the few Imperial ~~weapons~~ that is intentionally crafted for use by Ogryns, and its design is intended to be much more durable and larger than a standard Imperial weapon, to compensate for the Ogryns' size, extreme clumsiness, and intellectual deficits.		Ripper Guns are intended to be fired to soften up the enemy before the Ogryns charge into close combat, and are built particularly robustly so that they can stand up to the Ogryns' use of them as clubs in melee. Ripper Guns can also be fitted with Ripper Saws. A Ripper Saw is, as the name implies, a saw blade that is attached to the end of a Ripper Gun which is intended to provide the Ogryn with an effective close combat melee weapon once they close with the enemy. The Ripper Gun is one of the few Imperial firearms that is intentionally crafted for use by Ogryns, and its design is intended to be much more durable and larger than a standard Imperial weapon, to compensate for the Ogryns' size, extreme clumsiness, and intellectual deficits.

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	The Exitus Rifle is capable of firing a variety of ammunition depending on the target. These include:		The Exitus Rifle is capable of firing a variety of ammunition depending on the target. These include:
	*'''Shield-Breaker Rounds''' - Overload the personal Force Fields of the target		*'''Shield-Breaker Rounds''' - Overload the personal Force Fields of the target.
	*'''Turbo-Penetrator Rounds''' - Use a two-stage charge to punch a secondary round through the thickest armor.		*'''Turbo-Penetrator Rounds''' - Use a two-stage charge to punch a secondary round through the thickest armor.
	*'''Hellfire Rounds''' - Contain virulent bio-acidic toxins that can reduce targets to powder.		*'''Hellfire Rounds''' - Contain virulent bio-acidic toxins that can reduce targets to powder.

1d4chan>Super12345: /* Stubcarbine */

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Stubcarbine

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	Judging from how they are described in fluff, Stubcarbines seem to be a lightened variant of Heavy Stubbers, outfitted with some kind of recoil suppression system which allows them to be fired as handheld weapons by the Skitarii, albeit with shorter range due to sporting a much shorter barrel than the actual Heavy Stubber. It seems like the thinking was "a carbine is a lighter version of a rifle, so a Stubcarbine is a lighter version of a Heavy Stubber." This would make it an... assault rifle? High caliber (but otherwise normal) carbine? Uncertain, go ask [[/k/]]. [/k/ here, sounds like the Heavy Stubber "variant" was not a .50 but a 7.62x51 or equivalent, which would make it a medium machine gun. But knowing the Admech, it's not improbable that it is a .50 in which case it would be a compact heavy machine gun, or a high caliber SMG (/k/ here, an high caliber SMG is FUCKING DUMB and an OXYMORON. The SUB in SUB-Machine-Gun is short for SUBCALIBER, AKA Sub-rifle caliber.], depending on the overall power of the rounds)		Judging from how they are described in fluff, Stubcarbines seem to be a lightened variant of Heavy Stubbers, outfitted with some kind of recoil suppression system which allows them to be fired as handheld weapons by the Skitarii, albeit with shorter range due to sporting a much shorter barrel than the actual Heavy Stubber. It seems like the thinking was "a carbine is a lighter version of a rifle, so a Stubcarbine is a lighter version of a Heavy Stubber." This would make it an... assault rifle? High caliber (but otherwise normal) carbine? Uncertain, go ask [[/k/]]. [/k/ here, sounds like the Heavy Stubber "variant" was not a .50 but a 7.62x51 or equivalent, which would make it a medium machine gun. But knowing the Admech, it's not improbable that it is a .50 in which case it would be a compact heavy machine gun, or a high caliber SMG (/k/ here, an high caliber SMG is FUCKING DUMB and an OXYMORON. The SUB in SUB-Machine-Gun is short for SUBCALIBER, AKA Sub-rifle caliber.], depending on the overall power of the rounds)

			[Small aside from another /k/, classification and names change, especially with new advancements and categorization changes. [https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD0837082.pdf At one time a 5.56 weapon was officially called a submachinegun.] In East Germany, the AK was named the Maschinepistole Kalaschnikow. None of these classifications would make any sense by modern sensibilities but ironically 40k manages to be accurate to awkward as hell historical naming. If I were to justify the Macrostubber or Stubcarbine's naming, it'd be typical Imperium backwards retro-future mishmash we see everywhere else.]

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	{{Topquote\|If you really think about it, now we're just throwing lead with gunpowder..... god we have not advanced that much.\| Mechanicus priest RoanokeGaming aptly describing the Stubber}}		{{Topquote\|If you really think about it, now we're just throwing lead with gunpowder..... god we have not advanced that much.\| Mechanicus Biologis priest RoanokeGaming aptly describing the Stubber}}

	'''Stubbers''', or stub guns, are weapons from as early as the halfway point of M2, but mostly 20th/21st century [[Firearm\|gun]]s (our times) in the 41st millennium. Needless to say, most haven't aged very well when you consider how powerful everything else is. The only thing that they have going for them is they are cheap, they can still kill an unarmored humanoid target, and are durable as hell and depending on its mechanics and care, given can be and have been in use ''SINCE M2''. Sadly, they are incredibly weak against much of the universe's serious threats - in fact, they are among the few things that a [[Imperial Guard\|Guardsman's]] flak armor will reliably stop a direct hit of. This should give you an indication of exactly how weak they are. Of course, anything above it is guaranteed to fuck up your Guardsman and [[Space Marine]]s quite well, and stub guns are actually capable of downing Terminators if you aim for the joints, lenses, or other sensitive equipment (read: if the unlucky marine rolls a 1). Just because a gun is simple doesn't mean it's not effective, especially when it's scaled up a few (dozen) calibers. But just remember - every dog has their day. Especially as the latest Primaris armoured units have found fresh use for them.		'''Stubbers''', or stub guns, are weapons from as early as the halfway point of M2, but mostly 20th/21st century [[Firearm\|gun]]s (our times) in the 41st millennium. Needless to say, most haven't aged very well when you consider how powerful everything else is. The only thing that they have going for them is they are cheap, they can still kill an unarmored humanoid target, and are durable as hell and depending on its mechanics and care, given can be and have been in use ''SINCE M2''. Sadly, they are incredibly weak against much of the universe's serious threats - in fact, they are among the few things that a [[Imperial Guard\|Guardsman's]] flak armor will reliably stop a direct hit of. This should give you an indication of exactly how weak they are. Of course, anything above it is guaranteed to fuck up your Guardsman and [[Space Marine]]s quite well, and stub guns are actually capable of downing Terminators if you aim for the joints, lenses, or other sensitive equipment (read: if the unlucky marine rolls a 1). Just because a gun is simple doesn't mean it's not effective, especially when it's scaled up a few (dozen) calibers. But just remember - every dog has their day. Especially as the latest Primaris armoured units have found fresh use for them.

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	===Ripper Gun===		===Ripper Gun===
	[[File:Ripper_Gun.jpg\|200px\|right\|thumb\|Ripper Guns. [[Heresy\|Just when you thought regular Shotguns were big enough.]]]]		[[File:Ripper_Gun.jpg\|200px\|right\|thumb\|Ripper Guns. [[Heresy\|Just when you thought regular Shotguns were big enough.]]]]
	The Ogryn Ripper Gun is a large, brutal, and simple weapon designed for use by Imperial Guard's similarly-large, brutal and simple Ogryns. It is a heavy automatic shotgun, built as simply and solidly as possible in order to survive being used by the Ogryns who use it as much as a club as a firearm. Think of it as the high-tech grandson of the Scatter Cannon. It can fire either a heavy shell or a hail of shot. By design, the Ripper Gun does not have a long range to better fit the Ogryns' instincts for close combat, and many also have a fire rate limiter to prevent them from firing off an entire magazine's worth of ammunition at once.		The Ogryn Ripper Gun is a large, brutal, and simple weapon designed for use by Imperial Guard's similarly-large, brutal and simple Ogryns. It is a heavy automatic shotgun, built as simply and solidly as possible in order to survive being used by the Ogryns who use it as much as a club as a firearm. Think of it as the high-tech grandson of the Scatter Cannon. It can fire either a heavy shell or a hail of shot. By design, the Ripper Gun does not have a long range to better fit the Ogryns' instincts for close combat, and many also have a fire rate limiter to prevent them from firing off an entire magazine's worth of ammunition at once.

	Ripper Guns are intended to be fired to soften up the enemy before the Ogryns charge into close combat, and are built particularly robustly so that they can stand up to the Ogryns' use of them as clubs in melee. Ripper Guns can also be fitted with Ripper Saws. A Ripper Saw is, as the name implies, a saw blade that is attached to the end of a Ripper Gun which is intended to provide the Ogryn with an effective close combat melee weapon once they close with the enemy. The Ripper Gun is one of the few Imperial weapons that is intentionally crafted for use by Ogryns, and its design is intended to be much more durable and larger than a standard Imperial weapon, to compensate for the Ogryns' size, extreme clumsiness, and intellectual deficits.		Ripper Guns are intended to be fired to soften up the enemy before the Ogryns charge into close combat, and are built particularly robustly so that they can stand up to the Ogryns' use of them as clubs in melee. Ripper Guns can also be fitted with Ripper Saws. A Ripper Saw is, as the name implies, a saw blade that is attached to the end of a Ripper Gun which is intended to provide the Ogryn with an effective close combat melee weapon once they close with the enemy. The Ripper Gun is one of the few Imperial weapons that is intentionally crafted for use by Ogryns, and its design is intended to be much more durable and larger than a standard Imperial weapon, to compensate for the Ogryns' size, extreme clumsiness, and intellectual deficits.

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Primitive Variants

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	===Musket===		===Musket===
	[[File:Rb1-73-musket.jpg\|200px\|right\|thumb\|The Musket, basically the Flintlock's older brother.]]		[[File:Rb1-73-musket.jpg\|200px\|right\|thumb\|The Musket, basically the Flintlock's older brother.]]
	Muskets are primitive firearms, utilizing explosive powder and a crude firing mechanism to propel a lead ball. Like the Flintlock Pistol, these crude devices can only fire once before reloading and are prone to failure. Slow, inaccurate, and unreliable, they are only made and used on backwards planets. However, they are extremely easy to construct and maintain even from scrap-parts and with an absolute minimum of skill and knowledge about firearms operation. For this reason they are known to be quite popular among outlaw members of Hive societies such as the Ratskins and Scalies of the Necromundan underhive. The [[Planetary Defense Forces]] of Feral and Feudal Worlds also sometimes make use of muskets.		Muskets are primitive firearms, utilizing explosive powder and a crude firing mechanism to propel a lead ball. Like the Flintlock Pistol, these crude devices can only fire once before reloading and are prone to failure. Slow, inaccurate, and unreliable, they are only made and used on backwards planets. However, they are extremely easy to construct and maintain even from scrap-parts and with an absolute minimum of skill and knowledge about firearms operation. For this reason they are known to be quite popular among outlaw members of Hive societies such as the [[Ratskins]] and [[Scalies]] of the Necromundan underhive. The [[Planetary Defense Forces]] of Feral and Feudal Worlds also sometimes make use of muskets.

	Like the Flintlock Pistols, master-crafted Muskets could be quite deceptively deadly by virtue of incorporating some form of advanced tech into, seemingly, primitive and "backward" design. That “backward” musket could hide archaeotech capable of making a [[Thermal Cannon]] look like a firecracker.		Like the Flintlock Pistols, master-crafted Muskets could be quite deceptively deadly by virtue of incorporating some form of advanced tech into, seemingly, primitive and "backward" design. That “backward” musket could hide archaeotech capable of making a [[Thermal Cannon]] look like a firecracker.
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	When the weapon is discharged, it belches out this "ammunition" in a vast swath which will hopefully find itself somewhere in the locale of its intended target.		When the weapon is discharged, it belches out this "ammunition" in a vast swath which will hopefully find itself somewhere in the locale of its intended target.

	Outside of primitive societies, such a crude, ineffective and dangerous (to its operator) weapon is only used by the poorest or most desperate members of society. Usually it can be found in use by criminal gangs, for instance the Ratskin Renegades and [[Scavvies]] of Necromunda's underhive. [[Grot\|Gretchin]] also [[Gretchin Blunderbuss\|craft these weapons,]] even upsizing them for their primative dreadnoughts.		Outside of primitive societies, such a crude, ineffective and dangerous (to its operator) weapon is only used by the poorest or most desperate members of society. Usually it can be found in use by criminal gangs, for instance the [[Ratskins\|Ratskin Renegades]] and [[Scavvies]] of Necromunda's underhive. [[Grot\|Gretchin]] also [[Gretchin Blunderbuss\|craft these weapons,]] even upsizing them for their primative dreadnoughts.

	===Scatter Cannon===		===Scatter Cannon===
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	If all else fails, the Scalie can basically just use the giant cannon as a giant makeshift club. Any poor scrub would get crushed by the weapon's immense weight. The Scatter Cannon is sturdy enough due to be constructed mainly with one piece of reinforced wooden log and one piece of a steel firing bore. Thus, the Scatter Cannon is essentially the watered down version of the Ogryn's Ripper Guns.		If all else fails, the Scalie can basically just use the giant cannon as a giant makeshift club. Any poor scrub would get crushed by the weapon's immense weight. The Scatter Cannon is sturdy enough due to be constructed mainly with one piece of reinforced wooden log and one piece of a steel firing bore. Thus, the Scatter Cannon is essentially the watered down version of the Ogryn's Ripper Guns.

	Scalies are the only underhive denizens with the massive strength to take the recoil from these powerful primitive weapons.		Scalies are the only underhive denizens with the massive strength to take the recoil from these powerful primitive weapons. [[Ratskins]] on the other hand, may mount one on either a cart or an emplacement.

	==Ancient Variants==		==Ancient Variants==

1d4chan>Derpysaurus: /* Sniper Rifle */

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Sniper Rifle

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	[[File:Scatter_Cannon2.jpg\|200px\|right\|thumb\|The Scatter Cannon. The Blunderbuss' older brother and the Shotgun's uncle.]]		[[File:Scatter_Cannon2.jpg\|200px\|right\|thumb\|The Scatter Cannon. The Blunderbuss' older brother and the Shotgun's uncle.]]

	A primitive weapon found on Necromunda and used exclusively by the [[Scalies]]. Basically a 18th century cannon with a trigger attached to it. A scatter cannon is simply an enlarged version of a Blunderbuss or scatter gun with a heavy barrel and a fist sized bore. The greater weight of the shrapnel and explosive charge used in a scatter cannon increase its range and make it a lot deadlier in the confined conditions of the underhive.		A primitive weapon found on Necromunda and used exclusively by the [[Scalies]]. Basically a 18th century cannon with a trigger attached to it. A scatter cannon is simply an enlarged version of a Blunderbuss or scatter gun with a heavy barrel and a fist sized bore. The greater weight of the shrapnel and explosive charge used in a scatter cannon increase its range and make it a lot deadlier in the confined conditions of the underhive.

	If all else fails, the Scalie can basically just use the giant cannon as a giant makeshift club. Any poor scrub would get crushed by the weapon's immense weight. The Scatter Cannon is sturdy enough due to be constructed mainly with one piece of reinforced wooden log and one piece of a steel firing bore. Thus, the Scatter Cannon is essentially the watered down version of the Ogryn's Ripper Guns.		If all else fails, the Scalie can basically just use the giant cannon as a giant makeshift club. Any poor scrub would get crushed by the weapon's immense weight. The Scatter Cannon is sturdy enough due to be constructed mainly with one piece of reinforced wooden log and one piece of a steel firing bore. Thus, the Scatter Cannon is essentially the watered down version of the Ogryn's Ripper Guns.
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	===Hand Cannon===		===Hand Cannon===
	[[File:Hand_Cannon.png\|200px\|right\|thumb\|A Hand Cannon. For when you want to have pint-sized firepower.]]		[[File:Hand_Cannon.png\|200px\|right\|thumb\|A Hand Cannon. For when you want to have pint-sized firepower.]]
	Basically a semi-auto stub pistol (and sometimes revolver) on steroids, not unlike real-world .50 cal Desert Eagle or .454 Casull pistols in operation (It is worth noting that at least one model of hand cannon has its caliber listed as being .54 cal, that equals roughly 13.06mm).		Basically a semi-auto stub pistol (and sometimes revolver) on steroids, not unlike real-world .50 cal Desert Eagle or .454 Casull pistols in operation (It is worth noting that at least one model of hand cannon has its caliber listed as being .54 cal, that equals roughly 13.06mm).

	Hand cannons are almost invariably heavy and cumbersome by pistol-grade weapons standards, in addition to having unforgiving recoil, requiring a degree of training and physical resilience to wield such a firearm. Not handles properly something like this could break your hand.		Hand cannons are almost invariably heavy and cumbersome by pistol-grade weapons standards, in addition to having unforgiving recoil, requiring a degree of training and physical resilience to wield such a firearm. Not handles properly something like this could break your hand.
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	No, really, take a Lee-Enfield, Mosin or a Springfield and you got one of these. Shit's built to last.		No, really, take a Lee-Enfield, Mosin or a Springfield and you got one of these. Shit's built to last.

	Generally, a simple medium/high-caliber bolt-action or semi-auto rifle. Also called the Stubber. It is basically your typical, everyday hunting rifle you can buy today with some slight modifications. Existing in many patterns, generally such a rifle is regarded as a lowly civilian-grade weapon or tool.		Generally, a simple medium/high-caliber bolt-action or semi-auto rifle. Also called the Stubber. It is basically your typical, everyday hunting rifle you can buy today with some slight modifications. Existing in many patterns, generally such a rifle is regarded as a lowly civilian-grade weapon or tool.

	However, it often sees action not as just a hunting or farming tool, but as a combat weapon in the hands of lowly insurgents, cultists, or militia fighters. It's likely that high powered Stub Rifles could also be seen to use the same or similar rounds to a Heavy Stubber, minus the automatic fire. Heck, some high powered Stubbers could become a makeshift Sniper Rifle. Typically a Stub Rifle acts as a Marksman Rifle in these cases. Its rule 63 equivalents are the [[Las-Lock]] or [[Autogun]]. Don't look down on the stub rifle, some of [[#Exitus Rifle\|the most powerful weapons]] in the galaxy are stub weapons.		However, it often sees action not as just a hunting or farming tool, but as a combat weapon in the hands of lowly insurgents, cultists, or militia fighters. It's likely that high powered Stub Rifles could also be seen to use the same or similar rounds to a Heavy Stubber, minus the automatic fire. Heck, some high powered Stubbers could become a makeshift Sniper Rifle. Typically a Stub Rifle acts as a Marksman Rifle in these cases. Its rule 63 equivalents are the [[Las-Lock]] or [[Autogun]]. Don't look down on the stub rifle, some of [[#Exitus Rifle\|the most powerful weapons]] in the galaxy are stub weapons.

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	The primary sidearm of the triple gunslinging space cowboy of the [[Genestealer Hybrids#Kelermorph Hybrids\|Kelermorph Hybrid]]. From an initial perspective, these Stub Revolvers look like any other form of Stub Revolver. But don't let that fool you, for these revolvers pack enough of a punch to make a Hand Cannon and even a Bolt Pistol look like a pathetic Flintlock Pistol in comparison.		The primary sidearm of the triple gunslinging space cowboy of the [[Genestealer Hybrids#Kelermorph Hybrids\|Kelermorph Hybrid]]. From an initial perspective, these Stub Revolvers look like any other form of Stub Revolver. But don't let that fool you, for these revolvers pack enough of a punch to make a Hand Cannon and even a Bolt Pistol look like a pathetic Flintlock Pistol in comparison.

	For you see, the bullets of a Liberator Autostub is made from extremely [[Bullshit\|'rare']] depleted volonium shells. Rare is in quotations because they are made by disgruntled workers from any normal arms factory, produced by the stuff being smuggled out in trace amounts. [[Wat\|Which begs the question on why the Imperium never seem to make bullets out of this volonium stuff if]] [[Derp\|god damned sweatshop workers can smuggle them out and make it by themselves.]] (Maybe genestealers shit out volonium?) The fluff suggests that the normal Imperium does not use them because making these things is a deadly task since you're likely to be exposed to high levels of radiation (which suggests that to make depleted Volonium they first have to synthesis normal Volonium which, before you ask, is not a real element). But since when have the human costs of production stopped the Imperium "grim dark is our catchphrase" of Man? And it's deadly only to those aforementioned sweatshop workers because their basement armory has zero radiation protection, unlike a sanctioned worker specialized in that task. Anyway, these bullets are supposedly hard enough to pierce Power Armour and the hulls of light tanks (which makes no sense anyway because it still wouldn't have the kinetic energy to defeat said armor anyway), but crunch-wise they're only -1; not too bad, given the rate of fire, yet not quite "turn a tank inside out" good, <s>which may also explain why the Normal Imperium doesn't field them</s> crunch in this case is dramatically different from fluff in which these bullets are easily tank and Marine killers. They've got better (and cheaper, and probably wayyyyyy less radioactively lethal) shit to produce AP rounds with (and yet nobody, even Space Marines, ever gets any of these hypothetical AP rounds?).		For you see, the bullets of a Liberator Autostub is made from extremely [[Bullshit\|'rare']] depleted volonium shells. Rare is in quotations because they are made by disgruntled workers from any normal arms factory, produced by the stuff being smuggled out in trace amounts. [[Wat\|Which begs the question on why the Imperium never seem to make bullets out of this volonium stuff if]] [[Derp\|god damned sweatshop workers can smuggle them out and make it by themselves.]] (Maybe genestealers shit out volonium?) The fluff suggests that the normal Imperium does not use them because making these things is a deadly task since you're likely to be exposed to high levels of radiation (which suggests that to make depleted Volonium they first have to synthesis normal Volonium which, before you ask, is not a real element). But since when have the human costs of production stopped the Imperium "grim dark is our catchphrase" of Man? And it's deadly only to those aforementioned sweatshop workers because their basement armory has zero radiation protection, unlike a sanctioned worker specialized in that task. Anyway, these bullets are supposedly hard enough to pierce Power Armour and the hulls of light tanks (which makes no sense anyway because it still wouldn't have the kinetic energy to defeat said armor anyway), but crunch-wise they're only -1; not too bad, given the rate of fire, yet not quite "turn a tank inside out" good, <s>which may also explain why the Normal Imperium doesn't field them</s> crunch in this case is dramatically different from fluff in which these bullets are easily tank and Marine killers. They've got better (and cheaper, and probably wayyyyyy less radioactively lethal) shit to produce AP rounds with (and yet nobody, even Space Marines, ever gets any of these hypothetical AP rounds?).

	On tabletop, these are the Kelermorph's rootin' tootin' shootin' S4 AP-1 2 damage Pistol 2. [[Awesome\|The Kelermorph has three of these babies and can just gun down space marines and below with ease.]] [[Cypher\|Cypher]] wishes he could get guns this good.		On tabletop, these are the Kelermorph's rootin' tootin' shootin' S4 AP-1 2 damage Pistol 2. [[Awesome\|The Kelermorph has three of these babies and can just gun down space marines and below with ease.]] [[Cypher\|Cypher]] wishes he could get guns this good.
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	They are often employed as a signature weapon of [[Adeptus Arbites]].		They are often employed as a signature weapon of [[Adeptus Arbites]].

	Also worth noting is that along with simple buckshot or slug shells, Imperial shotguns can also fire specialised rounds, usually produced by the Adeptus Mechanicus, including the dreaded Executioner-pattern sniper slugs, having the ability to change their trajectory mid-flight and home in on their target thanks to their miniature on-board cogitator.		Also worth noting is that along with simple buckshot or slug shells, Imperial shotguns can also fire specialised rounds, usually produced by the Adeptus Mechanicus, including the dreaded Executioner-pattern sniper slugs, having the ability to change their trajectory mid-flight and home in on their target thanks to their miniature on-board cogitator.
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	Well...okay, not to the ''same extant'' as a sniper rifle as it is more like a DMR, but it is the closest thing a shotgun can be nonetheless. As such, despite being part of the shotgun family, it does not actually function like a shotgun. Like. ''At all.''		Well...okay, not to the ''same extant'' as a sniper rifle as it is more like a DMR, but it is the closest thing a shotgun can be nonetheless. As such, despite being part of the shotgun family, it does not actually function like a shotgun. Like. ''At all.''

	This is due to the fact that the Executioner Shotgun has been modified to such an extant that the only reason why it is still called a shotgun is based largely on familial ancestry more than anything else. I mean, we are talking about its entire barrel being changed to handle only solid precision slugs, having a scope attachment and being more streamlined for better weapons handling.		This is due to the fact that the Executioner Shotgun has been modified to such an extant that the only reason why it is still called a shotgun is based largely on familial ancestry more than anything else. I mean, we are talking about its entire barrel being changed to handle only solid precision slugs, having a scope attachment and being more streamlined for better weapons handling.

	Some bits of its shotgun ancestry still remain however, as vestigial elements. Like the presence of a [[derp\|pump-action feature]] and the barrel still being [[/d/\|''girthier'']] enough to theoretically fire normal shotgun shells. Although by this point you might as well just get a normal shotgun.		Some bits of its shotgun ancestry still remain however, as vestigial elements. Like the presence of a [[derp\|pump-action feature]] and the barrel still being [[/d/\|''girthier'']] enough to theoretically fire normal shotgun shells. Although by this point you might as well just get a normal shotgun.
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	*'''Shield-Breaker Rounds''' - Overload the personal Force Fields of the target.		*'''Shield-Breaker Rounds''' - Overload the personal Force Fields of the target.
	*'''Turbo-Penetrator Rounds''' - Use a two-stage charge to punch a secondary round through the thickest armor.		*'''Turbo-Penetrator Rounds''' - Use a two-stage charge to punch a secondary round through the thickest armor.
	*'''Hellfire Rounds''' - Contain virulent bio-acidic toxins that can reduce targets to powder.		*'''Hellfire Rounds''' - Contain virulent bio-acidic toxins that can reduce targets to powder.
	*'''Immolator Rounds''' - Rounds that caused most soft targets to violently explode at the molecular level leaving behind nothing but ash. These are the Rounds most often used in conventional sniper operations.		*'''Immolator Rounds''' - Rounds that caused most soft targets to violently explode at the molecular level leaving behind nothing but ash. These are the Rounds most often used in conventional sniper operations.

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	''Another'' AdMech weapon exclusive to the [[Skitarii]] (and, of all people, the Cultist Champion from the [[Blackstone Fortress]] game). The stubcarbine, though small, has the stopping power of the heavy stubbers mounted on the vehicles of the Imperial Guard. When a squad of Sicarian Infiltrators opens fire with these weapons, the air fills with an avalanche of solid shot that chews their victims to shreds. It can be assumed to have a shorter range to compensate for their high rate of fire or because of it's short barrel and high caliber. Despite how it looks from the side, the magazine is not actually that tiny cylinder the size of a fist on the underside, it's actually a side feed similar to the FG-42. With a squad equipped with these, the enemy will be dead by the time you need to reload, so magazine size won’t really matter, and if not, Skitarii are incredibly expendable to the other Greasemonkeys anyway. Plus, as cyborgs, it's not inconceivable that an Infiltrator can reload extremely quickly. The intention could be that an Infiltrator can rake a group of enemies with fire, then run a reloading macro while doing something else, like charging into close combat or taking cover.		''Another'' AdMech weapon exclusive to the [[Skitarii]] (and, of all people, the Cultist Champion from the [[Blackstone Fortress]] game). The stubcarbine, though small, has the stopping power of the heavy stubbers mounted on the vehicles of the Imperial Guard. When a squad of Sicarian Infiltrators opens fire with these weapons, the air fills with an avalanche of solid shot that chews their victims to shreds. It can be assumed to have a shorter range to compensate for their high rate of fire or because of it's short barrel and high caliber. Despite how it looks from the side, the magazine is not actually that tiny cylinder the size of a fist on the underside, it's actually a side feed similar to the FG-42. With a squad equipped with these, the enemy will be dead by the time you need to reload, so magazine size won’t really matter, and if not, Skitarii are incredibly expendable to the other Greasemonkeys anyway. Plus, as cyborgs, it's not inconceivable that an Infiltrator can reload extremely quickly. The intention could be that an Infiltrator can rake a group of enemies with fire, then run a reloading macro while doing something else, like charging into close combat or taking cover.

	Judging from how they are described in fluff, Stubcarbines seem to be a lightened variant of Heavy Stubbers, outfitted with some kind of recoil suppression system which allows them to be fired as handheld weapons by the Skitarii, albeit with shorter range due to sporting a much shorter barrel than the actual Heavy Stubber. It seems like the thinking was "a carbine is a lighter version of a rifle, so a Stubcarbine is a lighter version of a Heavy Stubber." This would make it an... assault rifle? High caliber (but otherwise normal) carbine? Uncertain, go ask [[/k/]]. [/k/ here, sounds like the Heavy Stubber "variant" was not a .50 but a 7.62x51 or equivalent, which would make it a medium machine gun. But knowing the Admech, it's not improbable that it is a .50 in which case it would be a compact heavy machine gun, or a high caliber SMG (/k/ here, an high caliber SMG is FUCKING DUMB and an OXYMORON. The SUB in SUB-Machine-Gun is short for SUBCALIBER, AKA Sub-rifle caliber.], depending on the overall power of the rounds)		Judging from how they are described in fluff, Stubcarbines seem to be a lightened variant of Heavy Stubbers, outfitted with some kind of recoil suppression system which allows them to be fired as handheld weapons by the Skitarii, albeit with shorter range due to sporting a much shorter barrel than the actual Heavy Stubber. It seems like the thinking was "a carbine is a lighter version of a rifle, so a Stubcarbine is a lighter version of a Heavy Stubber." This would make it an... assault rifle? High caliber (but otherwise normal) carbine? Uncertain, go ask [[/k/]]. [/k/ here, sounds like the Heavy Stubber "variant" was not a .50 but a 7.62x51 or equivalent, which would make it a medium machine gun. But knowing the Admech, it's not improbable that it is a .50 in which case it would be a compact heavy machine gun, or a high caliber SMG (/k/ here, an high caliber SMG is FUCKING DUMB and an OXYMORON. The SUB in SUB-Machine-Gun is short for SUBCALIBER, AKA Sub-rifle caliber.], depending on the overall power of the rounds).

	[Small aside from another /k/, classification and names change, especially with new advancements and categorization changes. [https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD0837082.pdf At one time a 5.56 weapon was officially called a submachinegun.] In East Germany, the AK was named the Maschinepistole Kalaschnikow. None of these classifications would make any sense by modern sensibilities but ironically 40k manages to be accurate to awkward as hell historical naming. If I were to justify the Macrostubber or Stubcarbine's naming, it'd be typical Imperium backwards retro-future mishmash we see everywhere else.]		[Small aside from another /k/, classification and names change, especially with new advancements and categorization changes. [https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD0837082.pdf At one time a 5.56 weapon was officially called a submachinegun.] In East Germany, the AK was named the Maschinepistole Kalaschnikow. None of these classifications would make any sense by modern sensibilities but ironically 40k manages to be accurate to awkward as hell historical naming. If I were to justify the Macrostubber or Stubcarbine's naming, it'd be typical Imperium backwards retro-future mishmash we see everywhere else.]