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	===Iraqi===		===Iraqi===
	The Iraqi T-62 is essentially the base model and a flat downgrade from the Soviet version. Sporting the same brutal gun, inferior amunition means that it can still fight against other Oil War opponents, but scales up poorly versus modern armed forces, in addition to having the double downsides of slow firing and no laser range finding. You'll need to stay still within 16" to even consider hitting anything. Being knockoff Soviets, the thoroughly mediocre crew skills and stats also mean this tank tends to stay out of the fight once hit. It ~~doesnt~~ even have bazooka skirts!		The Iraqi T-62 is essentially the base model and a flat downgrade from the Soviet version. Sporting the same brutal gun, inferior amunition means that it can still fight against other Oil War opponents, but scales up poorly versus modern armed forces, in addition to having the double downsides of slow firing and no laser range finding. You'll need to stay still within 16" to even consider hitting anything. Being knockoff Soviets, the thoroughly mediocre crew skills and stats also mean this tank tends to stay out of the fight once hit. It doesn't even have bazooka skirts!

	On the upside, being a knockoff of a knockoff means that the Iraqi T-62 is dirt cheap and can be spammed in huge numbers, making it a daunting prospect to face against infantry or lighter vehicles. With a platoon of 5 tanks coming in at just 7 points and add-ons at 1 point each till you hit 7 tanks, the Iraqi T62 is sure to put a dent in anything it faces.		On the upside, being a knockoff of a knockoff means that the Iraqi T-62 is dirt cheap and can be spammed in huge numbers, making it a daunting prospect to face against infantry or lighter vehicles. With a platoon of 5 tanks coming in at just 7 points and add-ons at 1 point each till you hit 7 tanks, the Iraqi T62 is sure to put a dent in anything it faces.

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2022-11-14T16:09:39Z

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	Speaking of which, Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?		Speaking of which, Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?

			The aforementioned idea did indeed last around 6 seconds or so and even non-modernized T-62's are being sent out to be eaten alive by Turkish drone mini-bombs and British, Swedish and American missiles.

	{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}		{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}

1d4chan>Cavgunner: /* IRL */

2022-08-25T01:46:05Z

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	The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets. Supposedly, they are being deployed to fulfill second-line and rear-area functions and thus free up more capable tanks. Of course, given how poorly the war is going for Russia that idea will probably last for about 6 seconds, which is about the amount of time it takes for a Soviet-era tank's ammo to cook off.		The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets. Supposedly, they are being deployed to fulfill second-line and rear-area functions and thus free up more capable tanks. Of course, given how poorly the war is going for Russia that idea will probably last for about 6 seconds, which is about the amount of time it takes for a Soviet-era tank's ammo to cook off.

	Speaking of which Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?		Speaking of which, Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?

	{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}		{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}

1d4chan>Cavgunner: /* IRL */ Edited for clarity, removed first-person reference

2022-08-25T01:45:17Z

IRL: Edited for clarity, removed first-person reference

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	The Egyptians bought it, and in the 80's took out the 115mm gun for a 105mm L7. The Israelis did similar modifications around the same time to captured T-62's and 62M's. Bulgaria also created a firefighting vehicle variant. Angola, some middle eastern nations like Syria, and some other communist nations in Asia and Africa bought them as well as Cuba. The Chinese stole tech out of the T-62 for their own Type-69 MBT, based on a captured vehicle they got during the Sino-Soviet Border Skirmishes, which has since become a better seller than the original. The Type-69 is interestingly enough a small improvement on the Type-59 which is a copy of the T-54A, but that's a long story you should look up on your own. But the really really crazy stuff comes from the North Koreans.		The Egyptians bought it, and in the 80's took out the 115mm gun for a 105mm L7. The Israelis did similar modifications around the same time to captured T-62's and 62M's. Bulgaria also created a firefighting vehicle variant. Angola, some middle eastern nations like Syria, and some other communist nations in Asia and Africa bought them as well as Cuba. The Chinese stole tech out of the T-62 for their own Type-69 MBT, based on a captured vehicle they got during the Sino-Soviet Border Skirmishes, which has since become a better seller than the original. The Type-69 is interestingly enough a small improvement on the Type-59 which is a copy of the T-54A, but that's a long story you should look up on your own. But the really really crazy stuff comes from the North Koreans.

	The North Koreans have what I can only ~~describe~~ as a fetish for the T-62. Such a fetish in fact, that they christened it the Chonma-ho II when they imported it. Why II? Because they already had a Chonma-ho I. The Chonma-ho I is the T-62, but with thinner armor. It's an exact copy in almost every way, except ''somehow worse''. Just to make things more confusing, there's two different Chonma-ho II's, with the second (I'll call it the 'II 2') being an upgrade of the I, so there's that. The III is just a II 2 with a barrel heat shroud and sideskirts, so it's a T-62M but still worse. The IV, V, and VI models are basically just I's and II 2's with modernized fire control, ERA and Applique armor (IV,) a IV with a 125mm gun from the T-72 (V), and the V with rubber all over it to deal with tandem warheads somehow (VI). The North Koreans also like to put Strela-2's and Strela-3's on the turrets of these things, and even have another variant for a command tank that doesn't even have a main gun. All in all, they have something like 1,500 T-62 and T-62 derivatives, all together.		The North Koreans have what can only be described as a fetish for the T-62. Such a fetish in fact, that they christened it the Chonma-ho II when they imported it. Why II? Because they already had a Chonma-ho I. The Chonma-ho I is the T-62, but with thinner armor. It's an exact copy in almost every way, except ''somehow worse''. Just to make things more confusing, there's two different Chonma-ho II's, with the second (I'll call it the 'II 2') being an upgrade of the I, so there's that. The III is just a II 2 with a barrel heat shroud and sideskirts, so it's a T-62M but still worse. The IV, V, and VI models are basically just I's and II 2's with modernized fire control, ERA and Applique armor (IV,) a IV with a 125mm gun from the T-72 (V), and the V with rubber all over it to deal with tandem warheads somehow (VI). The North Koreans also like to put Strela-2's and Strela-3's on the turrets of these things, and even have another variant for a command tank that doesn't even have a main gun. All in all, they have something like 1,500 T-62 and T-62 derivatives, all together.

	If Battlefront ever adds North Koreans, (and if the cold war ever did go hot some conflict in Asia would be expected even if the Sino-Soviet split had happened by 1985) expect a load of upgrade sprues.		If Battlefront ever adds North Koreans, (and if the cold war ever did go hot some conflict in Asia would be expected even if the Sino-Soviet split had happened by 1985) expect a load of upgrade sprues.
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	The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.		The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.

	The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets.~~(New info says~~ they are ~~ment for~~ rear ~~guard duty so as to~~ free the ~~other tanks)~~		The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets. Supposedly, they are being deployed to fulfill second-line and rear-area functions and thus free up more capable tanks. Of course, given how poorly the war is going for Russia that idea will probably last for about 6 seconds, which is about the amount of time it takes for a Soviet-era tank's ammo to cook off.

	Speaking of which Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?		Speaking of which Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?

1d4chan>Cavgunner: /* In Team Yankee */ grammar

2022-06-08T13:58:27Z

In Team Yankee: grammar

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	The T-62M shares the armor values of the T-55AM2, with a front armor of 14, side armor of 9 and a top armor of 2, and should be played in a similar manner. If anything serious notices you, you are most likely going to lose a tank or three. You do get the benefits of bazooka skirts, though, so light man portable anti-tank weapons will have a slightly harder time trying to kill you.		The T-62M shares the armor values of the T-55AM2, with a front armor of 14, side armor of 9 and a top armor of 2, and should be played in a similar manner. If anything serious notices you, you are most likely going to lose a tank or three. You do get the benefits of bazooka skirts, though, so light man portable anti-tank weapons will have a slightly harder time trying to kill you.

	The primary difference between the T-62M and the T-55AM2 is the gun. While the T-55 struggles ~~how~~ to deal with modern tanks, T-62M's 115mm 2A20 gun has an AT of 21, just enough to deal with those pesky 18 front armor tanks, and will punch right through the sides (assuming you even get to flank). The 2+ Firepower Rating guarantees that you will be demolishing your targets with almost every penetrating hit, and being brutal, your gun will mulch any infantry it hits. The gun is the T62M's single defining purpose, and it's job is to rain fire down on anything unfortunate enough to stand in front of it. While it cannot deal with the new super heavies, it will at least deter lighter vehicles from engaging in a stand-up brawl, which heavily favors you. You also get the AT-10 Stabber missile which has an extra 16 inches of range over conventional munitions but has a Firepower Rating of 3+, although you do get the ''Guided'' and ''HEAT'' rules. This transforms the T62M into a complete base camper, and also provides some sneaky on-demand anti helicopter firepower if needed.		The primary difference between the T-62M and the T-55AM2 is the gun. While the T-55 struggles to deal with modern tanks, the T-62M's 115mm 2A20 gun has an AT of 21, just enough to deal with those pesky 18 front armor tanks, and will punch right through the sides (assuming you even get to flank). The 2+ Firepower Rating guarantees that you will be demolishing your targets with almost every penetrating hit, and being brutal, your gun will mulch any infantry it hits. The gun is the T62M's single defining purpose, and it's job is to rain fire down on anything unfortunate enough to stand in front of it. While it cannot deal with the new super heavies, it will at least deter lighter vehicles from engaging in a stand-up brawl, which heavily favors you. You also get the AT-10 Stabber missile which has an extra 16 inches of range over conventional munitions but has a Firepower Rating of 3+, although you do get the ''Guided'' and ''HEAT'' rules. This transforms the T62M into a complete base camper, and also provides some sneaky on-demand anti helicopter firepower if needed.

	Sharing the exact same mobility as the T-55, don't expect to go very far in the T-62M. While the T-55 generally makes a beeline for flanking attacks, The T-62M is a dedicated fire support vehicle and as such should be crawling at 10" towards the front line, firing as it goes. With a very disappointing 4+ cross, expect this tank to get bogged down in forests and take heavy casualties on the way in.		Sharing the exact same mobility as the T-55, don't expect to go very far in the T-62M. While the T-55 generally makes a beeline for flanking attacks, The T-62M is a dedicated fire support vehicle and as such should be crawling at 10" towards the front line, firing as it goes. With a very disappointing 4+ cross, expect this tank to get bogged down in forests and take heavy casualties on the way in.

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2022-06-07T22:55:16Z

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	The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.		The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.

	~~Ukrainian~~ tanks (and ~~all the worthless soviet~~-~~era weaponry which former~~-~~Warsaw pact NATO countries have so "generously" donated~~ to ~~(((Zelensky)))) from 2014-2022 have shown how brutally efficient~~ these ~~weapons~~ are ~~in butchering ethnic-Russian Ukrainian civilians and all others who stand~~ up against ~~the CIA-puppet state~~. ~~This efficiency has doubled in value~~ as ~~Ukrainian armor has incompetently fired upon their own civilian population in Kiev and~~ other ~~Ukrainian-occupied territories in order to gin-up propaganda of Ukrainian "success".~~		The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets.(New info says they are ment for rear guard duty so as to free the other tanks)

	~~Gotta win that propaganda war right~~, ~~Langley jannie~~?		Speaking of which Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?

	{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}		{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}

24.129.173.98: /* IRL */

2022-06-07T22:51:21Z

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	The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.		The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.

	~~The Russians have even activated these~~ tanks ~~for the current~~ (~~2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms~~ and T-~~62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press~~-~~ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned~~ to these are ~~going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going~~ up against ~~AT weapons~~ and ~~ATGMs designed~~ to ~~deal with much better protected targets~~.~~(New info says they are ment for rear guard duty so as to free the other tanks)~~		Ukrainian tanks (and all the worthless soviet-era weaponry which former-Warsaw pact NATO countries have so "generously" donated to (((Zelensky)))) from 2014-2022 have shown how brutally efficient these weapons are in butchering ethnic-Russian Ukrainian civilians and all others who stand up against the CIA-puppet state. This efficiency has doubled in value as Ukrainian armor has incompetently fired upon their own civilian population in Kiev and other Ukrainian-occupied territories in order to gin-up propaganda of Ukrainian "success".

	~~Speaking of which Battlefront~~, ~~World War 3 in the Dark Continent when~~?		Gotta win that propaganda war right, Langley jannie?

	{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}		{{Soviet Forces in Team Yankee}}

1d4chan>Griff the wizard: There is no evidence about them being sent to the front lines at least for the time being

2022-06-06T11:03:15Z

There is no evidence about them being sent to the front lines at least for the time being

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	The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.		The T-62 did see some success in Africa. Cuban forces operated them during their interventions in Angola and Ethiopia, with great success. They blunted the locally manufactured South African armor in Angola, and were much more successful in counter insurgency actions in and after the Ogaden War inside Ethiopia. The Cubans still possess many of them, and they are all modernized.

	The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets.		The Russians have even activated these tanks for the current (2022) conflict with Ukraine, with T-62Ms and T-62MVs both seen on trains and trailers heading into Ukraine. Whatever poor press-ganged militia or unlucky Russian conscripts assigned to these are going to have one hell of a bad day if they find themselves on the front line, going up against AT weapons and ATGMs designed to deal with much better protected targets.(New info says they are ment for rear guard duty so as to free the other tanks)

	Speaking of which Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?		Speaking of which Battlefront, World War 3 in the Dark Continent when?